[quote name='wlshyd' date='19 March 2010 - 03:35 PM' timestamp='1269012353' post='72482']
Thanks for that Mike, good post!
You are spot on about them being good at masking speed well, the Mrs can hit 'cough' mph so easily without realising and yet in the Clio your ears start to melt at 60mph! It's a good car to know how fast you are going in, anything over 80 and you really know about it. Not that i condone or have EVER gone above 70mph on a public highway, you understand...
Havent heard too many issues with teh boxes but i would be careful to contact a few owners who have had it before i took the plunge, but 136ps and 230-odd lb/ft will do nicely for now (though the thought of 165ps and 270lb/ft + is rather tantalising).
I have considered the mk.IV Golf or circa. 2002-2003 Audi A3 route, but the Golf is just a bit old now and finding un-molested examples is difficult even with the 130ps diesels. The A3 is a lovely motor, but it is nigh on impossiblt finding one in the spec i want that is a 5-door. I have lived with 3-doors hatches long enough and it is definitely time for my rear passengers to have their own doors! Lovely cars, the A3 even the 8 or 9 year old examples with xenons, leather, climate etc but again i really want 5 doors.
Also considered the Fabia vRS, i actually quite like the look of them, understated but purposeful and must really shift with the 130ps / 236lb/ft VAG engine and such a small chassis, but the interior is cave-like in all respects and i just want something a bit more 'grown-up' after the mental Clio.
On the flip side the Mondeos are too grown up, so i arrived at the only other logical choice, the Focus.
What about the seat leon, there a 5door and vw based to shouldant be to awful to drive/live with, Skoda fabia vrs's handle like crap there supposed to be really spongey and lean badly when you really push them hard. I looked at an 03-plate golf before i got my focus and i can only insure the 1.6 so it was 0-60 in 3 weeks and had absoutly no kit shame really i quite like the gti turbo lol.
When my points go away (i was only doing 71 in a 70 honest
) and ive racked up a few more years no claims i was thinking about a clio 182 cup with the option packs on but i know if i have that il get banned just driving it home and no way in hell would my parents let me near one.
If i was you id go to a car supermarket somewhere, make a list of what your there to look and and make a rough judgement on what you like then take it from there. Personally dont get me wrong i like the MKII focus but it looks as dull as tesco's own brand cheese for me itd have to be the brand new facelift if i had the money or the mk1 in a sporty trim.
The best i can say to you is a 2.0tdci 136ps zetec 5dr on about an 05-06 plate with as low miles as poss and not in a daft colour! lol orr if your budjet can stretch a little what about a titanium spec theyve got buckets of kit on but the sportier set up (im sudjecting the sportier set up focus's because a clio trophy down to a focus lx for eg would be a bit of a buzz kill).
Why a diesel anyway its the fuel of satan, wont a 1.8 petrol do? lol