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tazz786
Hi all.
Really need help with this problem. My car seems to smoke alot. Even when the car is warm. Ive read about it and seems its most proberley my egr valve. Just wanted to know if there is any way of cleaning it or will it need replacing. Ive looked all over sheffield for a replacment but no one seems to have one. So if i could clean it myself maybe and save abit of money would really help. If i can can somebody tell me how hard it is to do so. If any knows anyway to help me let me know.
Its a focus mk1 1.8 tdi btw

Thanks
H3lly
Have a look at this video on youtube, it explains what's involved. It should help to improve your egr if planning on doing it yourself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DhYk3Mm8HQ
tazz786
Thanks mate ill give that a look when i get home hopfully will sort this problem out :)
jeebowhite
[quote name='H3lly' timestamp='1300116370' post='118463']
Have a look at this video on youtube, it explains what's involved. It should help to improve your egr if planning on doing it yourself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DhYk3Mm8HQ
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Hi H3lly, maybe its just me but I didnt see a hyperlink in there for the video?
Leemaxd
I done this treatment on my 1.8 tdci takes about 10-15 mins done my car the world of good.
tazz786
Thanks for the replys people. Just managed to watch the vid and it looks very easy.. Does any one know whats the best spray to do this. Also should it do the trick. seems so simply?

thanks
tazz786
could this spray do the trick?

http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_categoryId_165750_productId_202903_langId_-1?cm_mmc=Shopping-_-Google%20Product%20Search-_-Engine+Oils+%26+Additives%2FMaintenance+Fluids+%26+Additives-_-Wynn's+Fuel+Injection+%26+Carburettor+Cleaner+500ml&source=shopping&istCompanyId=b8708c57-7a02-4cf6-b2c0-dc36b54a327e&istItemId=liiqxm&istBid=t
Leemaxd
I only use the wynns egr cleaner, I couldn't get it at halfords but you can get it at any other good car parts place.
tazz786
Right will have to see if i can find it then. Didnt know if they sold it in england or not lol
shaddow
Hi Trying this out for myself. I too have a 1.8 tdci. Tried everywhere near to me to get Wynns egr cleaner, but ordered some yesterday off E-bay. Got the cleaner,plus some fuel additive for 11.95 plus postage. Hope it works for you, as well as me. Will let you know how i get on. Good luck
cressws1
Forgive me if im being a plank, But is an EGR something that only a diesel engine would have? Or is my 1.8 Petrol Zetec likely to have this feature (MK1)
Leemaxd
I am quite sure it's just a diesel thing
jeebowhite
Hi cressws1 - Yes EGR is only related to the diesel engine, the reason is (from my understanding) that the exhaust gasses are recirculated to the engine, and therefore can reduce the amount of Oxygen required for the combustion sequence, this makes it easier for the engine to work as the operating temperature of the engine has been reduced.

Hope this is somewhat along the right lines, any corrections will be happily recieved!
tazz786
Thanks guys. Can you send me the link for ebay where you ordered the egr cleaner please. Might order it from there myself if i can.
shaddow
Hi Tazz786. No problem mate I.E. link on e-bay.

Wynns egr3 air inlet/intake egr valve cleaner and DP3. Item No 320659572015.
Seller Jam100673
APJ
let us know how you get on....am gona be attempting this on my MK2 2.0TDCI as soon as i have time!
tazz786
Thanks mate. Going to go to a few shops tonight and if i cant find it ill order that. Think ill make a video while i do it aswel for you all
stef123
[quote name='jeebowhite' timestamp='1300261866' post='118680']
Hi cressws1 - Yes EGR is only related to the diesel engine, the reason is (from my understanding) that the exhaust gasses are recirculated to the engine, and therefore can reduce the amount of Oxygen required for the combustion sequence, this makes it easier for the engine to work as the operating temperature of the engine has been reduced.

Hope this is somewhat along the right lines, any corrections will be happily recieved!
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dont know about fords but an EGR valve is not just for a diesel engine. plenty of petrol engines have them, my old mk1 focus 1.6 didnt have one
mross
Petrol and diesel turbo engines have EGR valves in most cases, regarding the wynnes egr cleaner from ebay i can vouch for this stuff i have used it myself on my focus on my dads peaugeot 206 (both cars turbo diesels)and it works a treat.
tazz786
Hi all,
Ive finally managed to get the spray at a shop called bullseye. Going to do this after work tomorrow now. Just one last question. While im spraying it do i need to rev the car? i think thats what there doing while spraying?

Thanks
shaddow
Yes i think its a two man job. If you look at the E-bay link i sent you above, there are some instructions on there. Will look on here tomorrow night to see how you get on. Mine came today, but will have a go at it on saturday weather permitting. Good luck!
shaddow
Ok just looked at the instructions on the advert on E-bay. They are as follows.

Start engine, and run till warm

Set engine to run at 2000 rpm

Spray in short intervals

IMPORTANT, if revs increase whilst spraying, reduce revs to idle

Rpm, and diesel knocking can increase during pulverisation

After each pulverisation, wait for revs to settle

Continue till all the 200mlare consumed

Let the engine run at idle for a few minutes

Turn off engine

Re-attach hose

Re-start engine

After this idling period accelerate the engine 5 to 10 times, or drive for 5 to 10 km

DO NOT EXEED 3000 RPM.

Hope this helps
jeebowhite
Very useful instructions, I thought that the EGR had to be removed, but if it can stay in, even a simpleton like me could do it! good stuff as my MPG is getting a bit crappy now so I will see about trying this!

Maybe we should have a thread tutorial on everything you can do to improve the engine efficiency, everything from the bog basics to the likes of this...

If I do decide to keep my car by the end of the weekend then I will probably blister my car with everything I have and then write up a full thread on it!
APJ
it seems as simple as take hose off and spray whole can in while giving the engine a bit of a rev...let us know how you get on tazz, am waiting with waiting with baited breath to see if it goes ok and if you encounter any issues!
tazz786
Thanks all. I will update you all later about this now then. Everything is ready just wanting to finish work so once ive completed it ill post some pics and let you all know if its made any difference. Thanks for all your advice been really helpful
APJ
Good luck mate....really hope it works. If it does i'll do mine too!
shaddow
Hopefully doing mine tomorrow. Will also let you know how i get on
tazz786
[font="Courier New"]Hi all,
Well ive finally done the clean and...... The car is finally not smoking :D Its worked very good. Improved bhp a little aswel so im more than happy. My car before was really bad for smoking and now theres hardly anything.

Heres some steps to help you all.

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/196988_10150124722081993_650761992_6919765_6939040_n.jpg

Remove the air flow pipe to your left


Once removed it should look like this..


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As you can see the left pipe is now removed.
If you now just clean inside the egr valve with a cloth just to get all the sludge out of it.

Now back to the instructions i was send.

Start engine, and run till warm

Set engine to run at 2000 rpm

Spray in short intervals

IMPORTANT, if revs increase whilst spraying, reduce revs to idle

Rpm, and diesel knocking can increase during pulverisation

After each pulverisation, wait for revs to settle

Continue till all the 200mlare consumed

Let the engine run at idle for a few minutes

Turn off engine

Re-attach hose

Re-start engine

After this idling period accelerate the engine 5 to 10 times, or drive for 5 to 10 km

[b]DO NOT EXEED 3000 RPM.[/b]

And thats about it. Once you have followed these instructions you should notice you car running alot better than before. Im really impressed with how simply it was and really want to thank everyone on this forum for you help. Hope my instructions make sense to you all and goodluck with doing it youself. I didnt have any problems doing it. Its really straight forward.

Thanks Again :D[/font]
shaddow
Well done Tazz. More than pleased my info helped you. Will definatley do mine tomorrow if weather permits. Hope mine goes as well as yours, sounds like its worth doing anyway. If it does,nt fix my problem at least i know it,s not done any harm. Will keep you posted tomorrow.
tazz786
Yeah defo keep us informed. Good luck with yours. I think everyonw shud do the clean really. I got so much crap out of it.
shaddow
Yippeee. Just done mine, and took it for a good spin. Sounds like a new un, and runs well. No issues at all with doing it. Exept for upsetting the neibough of the R.B.L. club, as i did it on there car park. Bloke came round and started moaning about the noise, as he was sitting in his back garden lol. Sent him off with a flea in his ear. By the time he had finished going off on one i had done it, only took ten minutes to complete. Bet he was well pleased when the plume of black smoke went over his garden, but i cant control the breeze lmao. Hopefully this has cured my problem. Worth doing it 10/10.
tazz786
Really glad to hear that mate. So easy to do and worth it 100% i think i may start doing mine every 5 months or something just to keep it clean from now on. :D
shaddow
Yes Sounds like a good idea. Unfortunatley hasnt sorted my problem, but one more thing i can rule out. Drove it as i said after the clean, and it was perfect. Went out tonite and slowed down to turn left after a couple of miles, turned left and went to accelerate, and it happened again. Real sluggish, seems like the turbo doesnt kick in. Stopped, switched off, and immediatley started it back up, and drove home normaly. Cant get me head round it. Looks like taking it to ford for a diagnostic. Never mind AAAGH.


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