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jaygee82
hi everyone,

i tried to capture the horrible noise my car sometimes makes on first starting (for around 1 minute until it gets warm) but this morning there was no love. Its not the DMF because I am starting in nuetral with clutch on floor. Will endevour to capture that sound another day.

however i captured this video, this is a "cold start" although its 30 degree celcius here.

can someone tell me if theirs sounds like this, i think the volume has been captured well - its freakin loud !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7okDKx5jyJs

the car has just under 90 000k miles on it (140 000 kms)

Thanks in advance !
mondy-man
Nasty noise! Hard to tell with my crappy little speakers but sounds like it could be the big-ends that have gone (very bad news). I'm not going to rule out that it could be the chain, as unlike motorcycles the chain is moving faster (even at idle) than a motorbike's does and it's inside a metal cover when a motorbike's is outside, so it would sound different. I think you need a proper opinion on the noise by a professional in person before you fork out for [u][/u][u]anything[/u][u][/u]. If it is the big-ends, you'll need a full engine rebuild :(. Sorry I couldn't be more helpful!
jaygee82
[quote name='mondy-man' timestamp='1302170671' post='121974']
Nasty noise! Hard to tell with my crappy little speakers but sounds like it could be the big-ends that have gone (very bad news). I'm not going to rule out that it could be the chain, as unlike motorcycles the chain is moving faster (even at idle) than a motorbike's does and it's inside a metal cover when a motorbike's is outside, so it would sound different. I think you need a proper opinion on the noise by a professional in person before you fork out for [u][/u][u]anything[/u][u][/u]. If it is the big-ends, you'll need a full engine rebuild :(. Sorry I couldn't be more helpful!
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thanks again mondy man, i ment a bike cam chain but i know what you mean. found the only mechanic in brunei that knows what they are looking at today. hopefully find out early tomorrow the cause of all this noise.

i didnt think it could be the big end coz it only slaps while it is cold - would the big end be making noise all the time.

eek i hope you're not right - ive only had the car for 5 days - i even had a mechanic do a pre-purchase inspection on it (5 minutes of driving it and looking over it)

fingers crossed for something on the AUX belt.
mondy-man
[quote name='jaygee82' timestamp='1302175468' post='121980']
thanks again mondy man, i ment a bike cam chain but i know what you mean. found the only mechanic in brunei that knows what they are looking at today. hopefully find out early tomorrow the cause of all this noise.

i didnt think it could be the big end coz it only slaps while it is cold - would the big end be making noise all the time.

eek i hope you're not right - ive only had the car for 5 days - i even had a mechanic do a pre-purchase inspection on it (5 minutes of driving it and looking over it)

fingers crossed for something on the AUX belt.
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I hope i'm not right too, but I think big-end noise can go when it's warmed up (especially in Brunei!) or at least get quieter, i'm not absolutely sure :( Good luck anyhow
stef123
It is a bit rattly but it sounds like a typical diesel to me? without insulting, it sounds like a taxi!

I wouldn't say its a main or big end bearing problem though? it sounds like a rattly top end.

If it were me i would try a good oil flush and some new oil and filter.
jaygee82
[quote name='stef123' timestamp='1302201285' post='122039']
It is a bit rattly but it sounds like a typical diesel to me? without insulting, it sounds like a taxi!

I wouldn't say its a main or big end bearing problem though? it sounds like a rattly top end.

If it were me i would try a good oil flush and some new oil and filter.
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thanks for your comment, it has 20km old oil and filter in it - i had the same thought (i didnt use a flushing agent though)

will let everyone know what the pros say soon - thanks for your help
jaygee82
[quote name='jaygee82' timestamp='1302216039' post='122080']
thanks for your comment, it has 20km old oil and filter in it - i had the same thought (i didnt use a flushing agent though)

will let everyone know what the pros say soon - thanks for your help
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ok so the first problem discovered making some noise is a worn bush on tensioner. ive ordered one from the UK so will let everyone know if the noise dissapears (ill have the mechanic check cam chain and tensioner while he is working on that end of the engine). I had the mechanic reassemble the bad tensioner so i could use the car locally in the mean time as they wanted 550 BND (270 GBP) for the tensioner alone (not fitted). I got the gates kit (with another pully and new belt) for much cheaper delivered.

also found was a broken lower engine mount, i have bought a 2nd hand one so perhaps that will clear up some noise and certainly some vibration (heopfully the horrible nosie) !
davd
[quote name='jaygee82' timestamp='1302318064' post='122226']
ok so the first problem discovered making some noise is a worn bush on tensioner. ive ordered one from the UK so will let everyone know if the noise dissapears (ill have the mechanic check cam chain and tensioner while he is working on that end of the engine). I had the mechanic reassemble the bad tensioner so i could use the car locally in the mean time as they wanted 550 BND (270 GBP) for the tensioner alone (not fitted). I got the gates kit (with another pully and new belt) for much cheaper delivered.

also found was a broken lower engine mount, i have bought a 2nd hand one so perhaps that will clear up some noise and certainly some vibration (heopfully the horrible nosie) !
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tensioner, all day long! its normal for mondeos, for some reason when you start them from cold they cause a racket, as you drive and warm up the noise slowly goes away!
replace tensioner and belt!
im living with mine until its proper fucked! lol
jaygee82
ive had the tensioner replaced and the bottom pulley inspected.

still havnt gotten to the bottom of this noise.

it has nothing to do with the temperature of the engine :(

its only when the car is first started though, anymore ideas ?

does this sound like the DMF and clutch to anyone ?

the noise is definately coming from around the exhaust manifold.

im stumped ! :(
cuke
Hi, 1.8 diesels all do sound like taxi's when they're cold. Perhaps it might help if you could listen to another when it is cold to see if it's the same. But I can state that even my MK4 Mondeo 2.0l diesel with 13,500 miles on it, and a more modern engine, makes the diesel rattle until warmed up. Ford engines are not known for their refinement, the manufacturers try to just try and cancel the noise out.
Chris
chris bowman
must admit sounds fairly normal though perhaps a little louder than mine
stef123
what grade of oil are you using?


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