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mitch84
[quote name='james132' timestamp='1323511499' post='155951']
Just arived, aleady fitted, looks great, will find out tonight if its bright enough :)
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Cool post a pic if you can, and let us know what you think.
james132
Pic:

[img]http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad115/james132stomp/DSCF7663.jpg[/img]

Think its oooofin bright :D Will give you my thughts later once iv tried it out in a carpark ;)
mitch84
looks good! , nice and bright , so easy to fit as well!
james132
[quote name='mitch84' timestamp='1323541919' post='155984']
looks good! , nice and bright , so easy to fit as well!
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Thanks, and yeah real easy fit, some car bulbs can be a right pain. Will be nipping out to tesco soon so will see how it is with the privacy windows!
james132
Tried it out, impressive light from the outside like I said but still not great for reversing in the dark with the privacy glass, its great looking out of the passenger mirror, however cant see much in the drivers mirror as per.

Idealy you need a reverse light either side of the car to give an even spread of light.
Lenny

Tried it out, impressive light from the outside like I said but still not great for reversing in the dark with the privacy glass, its great looking out of the passenger mirror, however cant see much in the drivers mirror as per.

Idealy you need a reverse light either side of the car to give an even spread of light.


I have saw this done before,

if you purchase a reverse unit for a left hand drive model of focus,
swap the red unit for the clear one, then

splice in to the reverse cable and run a new line to the fog side,
the new unit will come supplied with a bulb socket so you will have 2 of those and put one on the end of the new reverse light

then take your old fog light unit and cut the fitment part off,

drill a hole on the side of your new unit and glue this section on to it,

once dry fit your reverse bulb in the original solt as it will work better facing directly out the rear of the car

and then fit your standard P21w Red Bulb in the side one.

Job Done http://www.fordownersclub.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/#EMO_DIR#/cool.gif

just need to purchase a lhd reverse light

For the Mk1 and Mk1.5 Click Here For the Mk2 and Mk2.5 Click Here
james132
Lenny, that was exactly what I was thinking of doing and was going to post a thread up in due time asking advice!

Iv been looking at the LH drive light for a while, just as a cosmetic mod to even out the look of the back of the car.

Hmm..... Anyone done this? Might give it a go ;)
Lenny
[quote name='james132' timestamp='1323601159' post='156055']
Lenny, that was exactly what I was thinking of doing and was going to post a thread up in due time asking advice!

Iv been looking at the LH drive light for a while, just as a cosmetic mod to even out the look of the back of the car.

Hmm..... Anyone done this? Might give it a go ;)
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:D ive fitted the lhd reverse but not the conversion mate,

id recommend this Pinflair Glue mate it drys clear is is hard as nails [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/280484171674?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%3A80%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dp4712.m570.l1313%26_nkw%3D280484171674%26_sacat%3DSee-All-Categories%26_fvi%3D1&_rdc=1"]Click Here[/url] also have great precision with the syringe

also for best results id start a new thread on this one mate

[img]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/Image0885.jpg[/img]

[img]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/Image0883.jpg[/img]
H3lly
I've attached a 'how to' guide that I nicked from another ford forum. I had planned doing this myself but never got around to it. I need to source the parts needed. Hope this helps.
TDCiST
I did the conversion on my old focus... its easy!!

Also, the mk2.5 looks harder as there is less space on the back of the lamp housing... i think youd need to cut the lampholder at an angle... I'm looking into this as we speak as i want to do this to my new focus, and will do a guide for everyone once ive found a method that works!

I was helped along for this by my other half... who decided to reverse my new car id had 10 days into a pillar lol!! only damage... the fog light! what a shame, i just had to order the LHD reverse light ;) lol

I dont know why ford didnt do this from standard anyway!! it makes much more sense!
jeebowhite
Twin reverse lights make all the difference, my Cee'd has them and it makes life so much easier, and much brighter. plus the pro of having the reverse lights a little higher up the middle of the car, means I get a good shine, If I could change anything about the focus, it would be the reverse light position!
s.jsutton
Hi Lenny
Will these bulbs fit a 2002 Mondeo?
Have the same problem as the chap who first posted. Can't see a thing behind me in a dark street
alkyz89
i think they fit most cars?? they have the same fitting as a standard brake/indicater bulb?? best bet would be to find them on ebay and email they supplier??
Stoney871
Pull your existing bulb out and if it looks like these pictures then all is good - (side pins should be directly opposite each other)

[img]http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m522/stoney871/bulb1.jpg[/img]

[img]http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m522/stoney871/bulb2-1.jpg[/img]
Lenny
[quote name='s.jsutton' timestamp='1327699456' post='163532']
Hi Lenny
Will these bulbs fit a 2002 Mondeo?
Have the same problem as the chap who first posted. Can't see a thing behind me in a dark street
[/quote]

Hi mate,
sorry for the delayed response the cree bulb for the focus is a replacment for a P21w Bulb
also known as BA15s or 382 so if the mondeo is the same fitment then this is the bulb for you,
however if your reverse bulb is different such as a T20 fitment, then cree reverse bulbs are also available in other fitment types by searching on ebay,

so when you find the reverse bulb fitment in your mondeo, enter it in to ebay and put the word ''Cree'' after the fitment and click search,
hope this helps. and thanks to others who have helped you also.
s.jsutton
[quote name='Lenny' timestamp='1327772671' post='163615']
Hi mate,
sorry for the delayed response the cree bulb for the focus is a replacment for a P21w Bulb
also known as BA15s or 382 so if the mondeo is the same fitment then this is the bulb for you,
however if your reverse bulb is different such as a T20 fitment, then cree reverse bulbs are also available in other fitment types by searching on ebay,

so when you find the reverse bulb fitment in your mondeo, enter it in to ebay and put the word ''Cree'' after the fitment and click search,
hope this helps. and thanks to others who have helped you also.
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Thanks Lenny and all who have replied.
I'll pull a bulb out and have a look.

Regards
Simon
Lenny

Thanks Lenny and all who have replied.
I'll pull a bulb out and have a look.

Regards
Simon


No problem mate,
please keep us updated, if you fit a Cree bulb,
upload some pictures mate, and let us know what fitment it is too.
s.jsutton
HI all.
Update.
No joy I'm afraid. - Mondeo mk3 reverse light bulb is a small halogen bulb much smaller than the standard break/indicator.
It is a "H21w" r435.
You can get a xenon replacement but I want more light not blue colour, can't seem to find anything made by cree or anything with the performance of the bulbs Lenny has mentioned for the Focus.

Anyway back to the drawing board.
Regards
Simon
tomo2001
[quote name='s.jsutton' timestamp='1328087891' post='164228']
HI all.
Update.
No joy I'm afraid. - Mondeo mk3 reverse light bulb is a small halogen bulb much smaller than the standard break/indicator.
It is a "H21w" r435.
You can get a xenon replacement but I want more light not blue colour, can't seem to find anything made by cree or anything with the performance of the bulbs Lenny has mentioned for the Focus.

Anyway back to the drawing board.
Regards
Simon
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Give this guy a try on the Honda Civic forum (www.civinfo.com). He know's everything bulb related !!

[url="http://www.civinfo.com/forum/members/mr+jp.html"]http://www.civinfo.com/forum/members/mr+jp.html[/url]
Lenny
[quote name='s.jsutton' timestamp='1328087891' post='164228']
HI all.
Update.
No joy I'm afraid. - Mondeo mk3 reverse light bulb is a small halogen bulb much smaller than the standard break/indicator.
It is a "H21w" r435.
You can get a xenon replacement but I want more light not blue colour, can't seem to find anything made by cree or anything with the performance of the bulbs Lenny has mentioned for the Focus.

Anyway back to the drawing board.
Regards
Simon
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Hi mate,
ive found these ones to fit,
they may not be quite as bright as the cree model but they do look to be high quality and they are 6000k white just the same as the Cree Q5
[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2x-White-1W-SMD-120-BAY9s-H21W-LED-Lights-Bulbs-/260821513291?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3cba2c744b"]http://www.ebay.co.u...=item3cba2c744b[/url]

or these:
[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2pcs-BAY9S-H21W-64136-9-Power-LED-Xenon-White-Bulbs-/200704566699?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item2ebaeca5ab"]http://www.ebay.co.u...=item2ebaeca5ab[/url]

[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-BA9S-H6W-12V-4-LED-SMD-Car-Spot-Lamp-Canbus-Audi-/300652320704?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item46004657c0"]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-BA9S-H6W-12V-4-LED-SMD-Car-Spot-Lamp-Canbus-Audi-/300652320704?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item46004657c0[/url]

Hope this helps B)
s.jsutton
Cheers lenny, I could not find anything - have you ever thought of working for the government doing research - your the man!!

Thaks again
Simon
Lenny

Cheers lenny, I could not find anything - have you ever thought of working for the government doing research - your the man!!

Thaks again
Simon


Thanks for the confidence vote mate, and glad i could help,
I wont get in to the Irish Government with you mate we have Billy Connolly running this country and its one big Joke!
Podzak
Jafar, CREE ! :mellow:
Lenny
[quote name='Podzak' timestamp='1328824396' post='165798']
Jafar, CREE ! :mellow:
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What ? :huh:
Stoney871
[quote name='Podzak' timestamp='1328824396' post='165798']
Jafar, CREE ! :mellow:
[/quote]

Indeed shovah. ^_^
It's ok, i get it LOL
artscot79
Stargate oh god i came on here to get away from it noooo lol
Stoney871
:D
Podzak
[quote name='Stoney871' timestamp='1328827909' post='165810'] Indeed shovah. ^_^ It's ok, i get it LOL [/quote]

Phew!
I'm so relieved someone did.
Hee-hee :D
Podzak
[quote name='Lenny' timestamp='1322498475' post='154380'] Hi Terry, yes thes bulbs are 100% road legal as they are only used for reversing purposes mate [/quote]

Hmm but what if you fit a switch to ZAP tailgaters etc? :rolleyes:
Lenny
[quote name='Podzak' timestamp='1330727849' post='170206']
Hmm but what if you fit a switch to ZAP tailgaters etc? :rolleyes:
[/quote]
lol that would result in road rage and perhaps get you in trouble if spotted by the law,
but i agree with you on the theroy mate,
Lenny

Cheers lenny, I could not find anything - have you ever thought of working for the government doing research - your the man!!

Thaks again
Simon


Simon did you ever get these led reverse bulbs fitted mate?

if yes, please post a picture to let us see how they look mate.
s.jsutton
Hi Lenny.

Not yet mate, I have had some more issue's with the car that needed sorting " injectors".
Little things have gone on the back burner for a while.
drinternat
Anybody tried them on a Mk4 Mondeo. i
Lenny
[quote name='drinternat' timestamp='1332243003' post='173539']
Anybody tried them on a Mk4 Mondeo. i
[/quote]

Hi,
not that i am aware of mate, but if your bulb fitting in the mk4 mondeo is a Ba15s Fitment
then the Cree Q5 Ba15s bulb will fit right in their.
[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1156-382-CREE-Q5-12V-24V-HIGH-POWER-LED-REVERSING-BULB-/120879205439?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item1c24f64c3f"]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1156-382-CREE-Q5-12V-24V-HIGH-POWER-LED-REVERSING-BULB-/120879205439?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item1c24f64c3f[/url]

also available in the Ba15S is the Cree Q7 model brighter than the Q5

[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2x-1156-BA15S-Super-High-Power-Cree-S25-Q5-7w-LED-Reverse-Tail-Light-Bulb-White-/300670147309?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4601565aed"]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2x-1156-BA15S-Super-High-Power-Cree-S25-Q5-7w-LED-Reverse-Tail-Light-Bulb-White-/300670147309?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4601565aed[/url]

or if its a 7740 T20 fitting then you need these mate,

[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/7440-T20-W21W-CREE-Q5-12-LED-7W-Projector-White-Car-Tail-Reverse-Stop-Bulb-Light-/110829116598?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item19cdee1cb6"]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/7440-T20-W21W-CREE-Q5-12-LED-7W-Projector-White-Car-Tail-Reverse-Stop-Bulb-Light-/110829116598?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item19cdee1cb6[/url]

or if your fitting is a T15 W16W then you need these

[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-x-WHITE-CREE-Q5-LED-Light-Bulbs-Car-Rear-Reverse-Lamp-Replacement-T15-W16W-501-/280839977562?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item41635dfa5a"]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-x-WHITE-CREE-Q5-LED-Light-Bulbs-Car-Rear-Reverse-Lamp-Replacement-T15-W16W-501-/280839977562?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item41635dfa5a[/url]

Plese note: if you require more than one bulb for your car, read the ebay listings prior to purchase to ensure you get the ammount you require, i am purely trying to assist you in the purchase and i am unaware of the quality of any of the above fitments with the exception of the Cree Q5 Ba15s which i have gotten two of them fitted in my focus and im very happy with the quality of light from them within the focus reverse and fog light fitment on my model.
BrownMotoring
As requested, photo's of Cree Q5 reverse LED's. Enjoy! :)

[img]http://www.fordownersclub.com/media/BrownMotoring/Lighting Upgrades/CreeReverse02_l.JPG[/img]

[img]http://www.fordownersclub.com/media/BrownMotoring/Lighting Upgrades/CreeReverse03_l.JPG[/img]

[img]http://www.fordownersclub.com/media/BrownMotoring/Lighting Upgrades/CreeReverse04_l.JPG[/img]

[img]http://www.fordownersclub.com/media/BrownMotoring/Lighting Upgrades/CreeReverse05_l.JPG[/img]

Just in case anyone is interested, there are further photo's in my gallery thing and a list below of what's been done thus far. Suggestions welcome:

2011 Ford Fiesta Zetec. Ink Blue. Factory fit City and Bluetooth packs:[list]
[*]35% Tinted glass, B pillar back.
[/list][list]
[*]Mist washer jet upgrade
[/list][list]
[*]Dipped Bulbs - (H7) Ring Ultima 120% xenon
[*]Main Bulbs - (H1) Ring Ultima 120% xenon
[*]Front Fog Bulbs - (H11) Stock Ford bulbs for time being
[*]Sidelight Bulbs - LED (24 SMD, W5W, xenon white)
[/list][list]
[*]Tail/Brake Bulbs - Philips Vision Plus (P21/5W)
[*]Reverse Bulbs - Cree Q5 (W16W, white)
[*]Rear Fog bulb - Cree Q5 (P21W, red)
[*]Rear Number Plate Bulbs - LED (8 SMD, W5W, white)
[/list][list]
[*]Front/Rear Indicator Bulbs - LED (18 SMD, PY21W, amber)
[*]Side/mirror indicators - Stock Ford bulbs for time being
[/list][list]
[*]Boot, Interior, Reading Bulbs - LED (28 SMD, W5W, white [W5W in place of W6W interior bulb])
[*]Puddle lights - LED (28 SMD, W5W, red)
[*]Footwell Bulbs - LED (12 LED, W5W wide angle cluster, red)
[/list]
Err, that's all. Have a most awesome weekend.
james_60
Hi

plz Can you give me a list of bulbs that i would need to upgrade all the lights at the rear of my new focus :-)

Jamie
Podzak
I wish they'd show where the prongs are :(
TDCiST
oooh a 7W version... i need to get my arse in gear and fininsh my twin conversion!! then get 14W of Cree LED to light the road behind me lol!!
alkyz89
hey dave, bare in mind with the twin conversion i had to bond the light holder on at an angle to be able to fit both cree Q5 reverse and fog lights in, as i found the bulbs will obstruct each other!!
iv got some pics if that would help further?
Lenny

hey dave, bare in mind with the twin conversion i had to bond the light holder on at an angle to be able to fit both cree Q5 reverse and fog lights in, as i found the bulbs will obstruct each other!!
iv got some pics if that would help further?


on that note mate,
ive noticed their is a difference in the cree Q5 bulbs that i have,
one of them is anodised red and has around 5-6 ribs on it
but the other one is anodised silver and only has 2 ribs on it, its also a shorter bulb but both bulbs are P21w cree q5 6000k reverse units ill try get some pictures up tomorrow evening to show others but it may help with the bulbs being close in the modified unit.
Lenny
Now available in 9.5watt thats 95% brighter than the existing cree Q5 ones at 450 Lumens per bulb :o B) B) B) B) B) and they will fit the P21w Ba15 socket that we have in the focus.
[url="http://www.ebay.ie/itm/CREE-Q5-382-1156-BA15S-LED-REVERSE-BULB-9-5W-450-LUMENS-BRIGHTEST-AVAILABLE-/330720244353?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4d00767281"]http://www.ebay.ie/i...=item4d00767281[/url]
Podzak
Hmmm.
I've seen some led headlight bulbs, giving 300% more light.
Are they legal here and has anyone experienced them?
Any good?
$38.28 each plus about £1 P&P from the land of the rising noodle.
ShinyAndy
I fitted one of these (not a bad price given you get two) a few weeks ago. Unfortunately the tint to the rear of my car is so dark it hasn't really made much difference to reversing but it is definitely brighter

[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2x-7w-Blanc-1156-BA15S-Cree-Q5-LED-SMD-Feux-Arriere-Tuning-Frein-Ampoules-Lampe-/280845238161#ht_4009wt_1397"]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2x-7w-Blanc-1156-BA15S-Cree-Q5-LED-SMD-Feux-Arriere-Tuning-Frein-Ampoules-Lampe-/280845238161#ht_4009wt_1397[/url]
b1g_dav3
I got 5 watt ones in the back of my Fiesta, not the best... But then again the original's were crappy too. Going to invest in some 9W ones that aren't just leftovers.

Got 5W ones in my sidelights that are really bright (could be mistaken for headlights at night) only they don't really put much onto the road, however my 11W fog's do :P
Podzak
[quote name='b1g_dav3' timestamp='1349811726' post='210507']
I got 5 watt ones in the back of my Fiesta, not the best... But then again the original's were crappy too. Going to invest in some 9W ones that aren't just leftovers.

Got 5W ones in my sidelights that are really bright (could be mistaken for headlights at night) only they don't really put much onto the road, however my 11W fog's do :P
[/quote]
But you only use them in fog, don't you?
I mean, you wouldn't be a knob and use foglights as spotlights.
Would you? :mellow:
Podzak
[quote name='Podzak' timestamp='1341582428' post='191576']
Hmmm.
I've seen some led headlight bulbs, giving 300% more light.
Are they legal here and has anyone experienced them?
Any good?
$38.28 each plus about £1 P&P from the land of the rising noodle.
[/quote]

Linky prease? :ph34r:
gr33ns
[size=3][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Hi guys I have a focus saloon 2006, my reversing light lens is clear and on the [color=#282828]Cree Q5™ power Led bulbs the casing is red so I was wondering if[/color][/font][/size]

[size=3][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif][color=#282828]these bulbs will be ok [/color][color=#FF0000] [/color][url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2x-382-Reversing-Light-Lamps-CREE-Q5-LED-Bulbs-5W-High-Power-6000K-Xenon-White-/220990685185?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3374124001"][color=#FF0000]here[/color][/url][color=#282828] thay say thay are not cambus error free so will theres bulbs work on my car[/color][/font][/size]

[size=3][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif][color=#282828]I would be gratefull for any help[/color][/font][/size]
Lenny

Hi guys I have a focus saloon 2006, my reversing light lens is clear and on the Cree Q5™ power Led bulbs the casing is red so I was wondering if

these bulbs will be ok here thay say thay are not cambus error free so will theres bulbs work on my car

I would be gratefull for any help

They should be ok mate,
But their is now CreeQ7 which are smaller and 3 times brighter. Alltronix are a good stockest in the uk. They msy not be the cheapest supplier but a good one.
gr33ns
Thanks Lenny,
I will have a look at them, I am also looking a getting leds to replace my number plate light my foot well lights
do the leds need to be cambus error free for my car 2006 saloon, I have been reading other post on this forum some dont mention
the need for cambus error free but some do.
Lenny

Thanks Lenny,
I will have a look at them, I am also looking a getting leds to replace my number plate light my foot well lights
do the leds need to be cambus error free for my car 2006 saloon, I have been reading other post on this forum some dont mention
the need for cambus error free but some do.

CanBus has been in effect since 2001 in most manufacturers mate,
So to be sure to work in either case id fit CanBus to the reg and parking but the footwells are not CanBus but you can fit Canbus even if it is not required in the fitment.
But if you fit non CanBus in to a socket that requires CanBus then they wont power up/illuminate.


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