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tomo2001
Anyone else got a Mk3 Focus with keyless entry ? Do you too find it a bit 'hit and miss' ?

Numerous times I have gone to the car, opened the boot then closed the boot (keyless entry). Then gone to drivers door and nothing happens, car doesn't unlock in fact it sounds if it is trying to lock the car. End up getting frustrated and just using the fob to press the car unlock button. Went to petrol station today, filled up locked car with a 'handswipe' on drivers handle - all ok. Went in, paid, came out, grabbed drivers door handle and NOTHING !! Ended up using key fob again - complete and utter waste of money IMHO. Rant over.........................
Preee
I have keyless entry on my 2010 Tit , and i had to go and get it updated as it went crazy locking me out of the car , since the update its been fine.Although if ihad purchased the car from new i would not have added that option
Wickwick10_1
Mate I pick mine up Friday with keyless so let you know in time !!
cuke
[quote name='tomo2001' timestamp='1316294803' post='144550']
Anyone else got a Mk3 Focus with keyless entry ? Do you too find it a bit 'hit and miss' ?

Numerous times I have gone to the car, opened the boot then closed the boot (keyless entry). Then gone to drivers door and nothing happens, car doesn't unlock in fact it sounds if it is trying to lock the car. End up getting frustrated and just using the fob to press the car unlock button. Went to petrol station today, filled up locked car with a 'handswipe' on drivers handle - all ok. Went in, paid, came out, grabbed drivers door handle and NOTHING !! Ended up using key fob again - complete and utter waste of money IMHO. Rant over.........................
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Hi, if its not working correctly so take it back to the dealership then, it serves no purpose to rant here, mine works fine.
Chris
tomo2001
[quote name='cuke' timestamp='1316362984' post='144637']
Hi, if its not working correctly so take it back to the dealership then, it serves no purpose to rant here, mine works fine.
Chris
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Not surprised with that answer, you seem to have the perfect car.
pauljoanss
Also have 2010 Ti with Keyless system and it works well. Just keep the key in my pocket and has worked 100% (only had car for 4 weeks). Get a little annoyed when I reach my front door and have to get key ring out of pocket.
Wickwick10_1
[quote name='tomo2001' timestamp='1316365530' post='144642']
Not surprised with that answer, you seem to have the perfect car.
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Had to laugh at his reply to you ! Maybe he does not realise this is a discussion site ?
Wickwick10_1
[quote name='pauljoanss' timestamp='1316365651' post='144643']
Also have 2010 Ti with Keyless system and it works well. Just keep the key in my pocket and has worked 100% (only had car for 4 weeks). Get a little annoyed when I reach my front door and have to get key ring out of pocket.
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Well I have ordered one with keyless entry and pick it up Friday ! Wonder if I can get keyless entry for my front door then problem solved ! Lol
cuke
[quote name='tomo2001' timestamp='1316365530' post='144642']
Not surprised with that answer, you seem to have the perfect car.
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Hi, lets not go there ok, you seem to have a less than perfect car, however, as I said, you are better off taking your frustration out at the dealership that supplied your car instead of me.
Chris
Wickwick10_1
I do believe this is a discussion site ? I also would have asked the same question on here if I had the same problem - seems to me your a little tense ? If you have a problem with someone's post then don't reply just chill out. Discussion sites = Discuss ;-) "Simples" !!!!
cuke
Hi, yes a discussion forum, the question was posed, "Anyone else got a Mk3 Focus with keyless entry ? Do you too find it a bit 'hit and miss'" I gave a straight forward answer, so what's the problem?
Chris
Wickwick10_1
The guy asked a simple question and you seem to jump on him regarding not taking it to dealer - I pick mine up Friday and if I have an issue I would also ask it on here ? Can't see what the issue is - was the way you challenged him regarding taking it to the dealer - very abrupt / sharp that's all.
cuke
Hi, well if that was the truth then I'd apologise, however the op used the words rant, frustrated and used capitals. Thus I suggested this should be better aimed at the dealership. However, did your comment 'Had to laugh at his reply to you !' add anything to this discussion about the keyless system?
Chris
Will Clark IOM
Help my engine has blown up can anyone other than my dealer help me please, you have a problem with a new car take it back as far as I know that's what most normal people would do that's the best thong about buying new or you may aswell got a cheap car. then report back to us and tell us how they got on and what to look for or solutions, not avoiding the dealer like he has the plauge and bitching about it on here, to borrow what wick said "SIMPLES" THe term 'some people are never happy unless there complaining' sping to mind anyone???
Wickwick10_1
Chill out you lot and get a life ! Actually you amuse me never mind dont worry yourselves over the guys question and sorry your car blew up lol ! Funny you lot .........;-)
Wickwick10_1
[quote name='Will Clark IOM' timestamp='1316468780' post='144847']
Help my engine has blown up can anyone other than my dealer help me please, you have a problem with a new car take it back as far as I know that's what most normal people would do that's the best thong about buying new or you may aswell got a cheap car. then report back to us and tell us how they got on and what to look for or solutions, not avoiding the dealer like he has the plauge and bitching
about it on here, to borrow what wick said "SIMPLES" THe term 'some people are never happy unless there
complaining' sping to mind anyone???

You lot are complaint about a guys thread ?? What's your problem he asked a question ? I have new cars every year an if I have a fault always ask on the forums due to dealers not being able to book in right away - it was just a "Question" anyway you pair of women I must go now ;-)
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Will Clark IOM
My pleasure mate, I'll keep you posted.
jonro99
Hi all

Just picked up my 2011 Focus Titanium with Keyless entry system. I had this on my previous Renault and they dont seem to work the same. I dont know if there is a fault as I see people have had to have theirs updated. I'll get to the point. Do you have to physically lock the door when you exit, or do you have to press the button on the door handle? The dealer told us that you just walk away but when we do that the car does not lock. There is also no audiable noise to confirm the alarm is set, i was under the impression the thatcham alarm 'beeped' when it armed.

Any responses would be appreciated, thank you in advance


Jon
tomo2001
Best response is to 'swipe' your hand over the black window on the door handles, do it slowly as it doesn't always work. Sometimes you may find you return to the vehicle grab a door handle and the car doesn't unlock. Usually find it best to walk to car hold handle, count to 10, swear, deep breath and then the car unlocks !!

Also seems to be worse when my key is in the same pocket as the mobile phone - can this block the signal - who knows ??
cuke
Hi, for sure it isn't a good idea to keep the keys in the same pocket, I belive the manual does suggest this. My car is having to go in to the dealership on thurs as the front passenger door will not lock and unlock through the black sensor. So not so much the perfect car...
Chris
tomo2001
[quote name='cuke' timestamp='1317393403' post='146451']
Hi, for sure it isn't a good idea to keep the keys in the same pocket, I belive the manual does suggest this. My car is having to go in to the dealership on thurs as the front passenger door will not lock and unlock through the black sensor. So not so much the perfect car...
Chris
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That's similar to mine - sometimes. My other issue on another thread the stop/start problem has been escalated as I rejected the car on Weds when the Ford technician failed to turn up. Had problem since July and no further down the road. Apparently supplying dealer are going to collect my car and give me a relief vehicle, Ford KA no doubt !!
2nd ford E+ B
hi,
i've had similar prob -ie my keyless entry works fine for me opening the drvers door , its when my partner tries the passgenger door its locked & i have to use the key fob, and the back doors are the same some times.
And yes i know i'll have to take it back to dealer when i get time so im not ranting, lol :)
Will Clark IOM
I know people are more likely to complain about something than say it's class on forums but ford need to sort this out, has anyone got the keyless entry and not had a problem?? Sounds unlikely at the moment.
2nd ford E+ B
[quote name='Will Clark IOM' timestamp='1317575587' post='146740']
I know people are more likely to complain about something than say it's class on forums but ford need to sort this out, has anyone got the keyless entry and not had a problem?? Sounds unlikely at the moment.
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Had keyless entry on my fiesta tit 58 plate, & never had one prob
Will Clark IOM
Focus related I ment, heard the system was very good on the fiesta, seems strange that they would change the system much but something is different which your unfortunately finding out.
ukclarkkent

just wondering if i can resurrect this thread after doing a bit of googling...

 

i've put my focus titanium(12 plate) into my local dealership twice regarding "faults" with the keyless entry.  i say fault...they say it doesn't fail any health check so there are no faults.

 

unfortunately i'm not convinced.  i'd really like to have some kind of fact sheet about what is supposed to happen with keyless entry/exit.  i'm ok with the power button for ignition so i'm just interested in what should happen with entering/exiting my car.

 

on exit am i supposed to be able to just walk away from the car and it locks itself?  if so how long does it take to do this and how far should my key fob be away from it?  currently it doesn't lock itself ever.

 

on exit if i press the driver black pad on the door handle it doesn't lock sometimes.  i can perhaps get it to lock occasionally by mucking about with the keypad.  it's not easy and not predictable either.  this is on the driver's side.  things seem to be better on the passenger side but i don't always do this.  in the end i end up pressing the lock button on the fob which defeats the whole object.

 

on approaching the car is my car supposed to recognise my fob every time?  it doesn't do this.  but then sometimes it does.  i try to repeat the same tests every day but it's really hard to write each part of the test so i end up not remembering what's happened.  does it matter if the locks are "double-locked" or single-locked.  i don't know the technical terms so bear with me.

 

now that my car has been into the dealers twice i'm having to play detective on forums like this as i'm convinced there's something up.  it'd be really good to have some kind of technical specification on keyless entry/exit so i can read it and see if my car follows it.

 

soz for the essay but hopefully you can see that i'm getting a bit lost with the keyless side of things.  i don't have any other faults that i know about apart from brakes but i'm dealing with motorpoint on that one so shouldn't be related...

 

cheers in advance,

me

cuke

Hi, the car will never lock itself and hasn't been designed to do it this way, I am sure you can think of why this is so. Double locked is more secure because not only does it prevent the interior handles from opening the doors it also puts the alarm into a higher level of protection..

Johannapam1
I have keyless entry and very occasionally I have to try twice - usually when it is wet.
When I exit I press my thumb twice on the door handle contact to double lock it.
On return I just grab the handle (front or rear) and it unlocks.

John
ukclarkkent

Thanks both for chipping in.  so i'm guessing that my car will never lock itself.  as for if i'd like this feature then yep i would - or at least the option to choose it on exit.  it's generally just me using the car so why not just walk away if i forget to lock it.  irrelevant now anyway.

 

as for the touch pad, this is why it's there then isn't it?  to lock the car without needing the key fob.  knowing this now i'll use it more often and see if it seems to be working right or not.

 

so what do we thinking on approaching the car then.  is my car supposed to recognise my fob EVERY time i get up close to it?  if i open my boot when it's locked, shut it and walk around to the driver door in the morning then it recognises it and opens up the door mirrors and unlocks.

 

however the other day i parked it up on friday night and came back to my driver door on a monday morning and nothing.  no mirrors out or unlocking so what's up there?  is it the time since last activity?  once i grabbed the door handles everything opened up.

 

thanks again all,

ian

alexp999

The boot is operated separately to the doors, so if you open the boot first, you still have to grab the door handle to unlock the car.

ukclarkkent

cheers alexp but i'm afraid that's not what happens on my car.  perhaps i should mention that i have automatic mirrors(convenience pack?)  i bought my car 2nd hand from motorpoint and although i got the manuals it just brushes over the keyless system.

 

i'm able to unlock my car and open up my mirrors just by walking close to it.  this is especially after opening the boot from cold.  you're right, though, that my boot opens and closes separately to the other doors.

 

 

1 of my frustrations with this is that my dealer didn't really know the answers to my questions and there are differing opinions out there.  i've just found out that ford tech info is £1 a minute so that's a no-goer.  i'd just like to know what i've paid £1000s for.

 

thanks all - keep 'em coming!!!

me

alexp999

I have a Titanium X, with the Appearance pack, so it includes Keyless, Folding mirrors, etc.

 

The sensor for unlocking the door is on the back of the handle. The car should never unlock just by walking up to it. When you put your hand between the handle and the car (i.e. grab the handle) the car should unfold the mirrors and unlock.

 

The only issue I have had is sometimes the alarm does not disengage after unlocking the car, I know when it is going to happen as the double locking mechanism is slow to respond. As soon as the key enters the car the alarm stops though.

ukclarkkent

ah rightio.  i've got a plain(!) titanium, 12 plate with appearance pack not convenience pack then.  cheers.

 

a sensor on the back of the handle?  i'll check this out when i go out later but my car opens up without my touching it although i do have to be right next to it.  it opens up a split-second before i grab the handle.  i'll try this later on though.

 

no issues with my alarm in the 3 months i've had it other than forgetting to deactivate the interior sensor when getting out and my baby in the back moving.  so that works alright i assume.

 

cheers again,

me

alexp999

ah rightio.  i've got a plain(!) titanium, 12 plate with appearance pack not convenience pack then.  cheers.

 

a sensor on the back of the handle?  i'll check this out when i go out later but my car opens up without my touching it although i do have to be right next to it.  it opens up a split-second before i grab the handle.  i'll try this later on though.

 

no issues with my alarm in the 3 months i've had it other than forgetting to deactivate the interior sensor when getting out and my baby in the back moving.  so that works alright i assume.

 

cheers again,

me

 

You shouldn't have to touch the car, but as soon as you put your hand between the car and handle, it will unlock.

 

I have to leave my key inside the house when washing my car as it constantly locks and unlocks itself otherwise :lol:

cuke

Hi, correct as I have to do that as well...

Preee

Because of my low miles , my battery is not in peak condition , and i sometimes have trouble locking mine , i can press the button several times before it activates.

Ford tested and found no problem apart from low battery.

 

As for Alarms aRRrrhhhhh , if i get out the car to quick after having heater on , the damn alarm triggers . open the door and let the air circulate , then get out and lock and it does not go off.

 

Yes i also have to place my hand between handle before it opens, some times i do the Ninja , and can start to pull the handle before it opens :)

yunii

Also have 2010 Ti with Keyless system and it works well. Just keep the key in my pocket and has worked 100% (only had car for 4 weeks). Get a little annoyed when I reach my front door and have to get key ring out of pocket.

+1 works fine ,i also keep remote in pocket & also had car for around 4-5 weeks. LOL!

but i dont have to reach for house keys as have remote garage door so open it & enter.

Foci_st3
Had troubles with mine not wanting to unlock while it was raining which for obvious reason is really annoying, went into ford for my 4k mile oil change and got them to check it, what ever was done has cured it and I'm on 10500k now
dsrogan

Ignoring most of the bitching!!!!  

Had my Mk3 just over a year now.  I too think my keyless is hit and miss.  Cold weather this winter seemed to make it a lot worst.  I did take it to the dealer, got the expected reply - "cannot find anything wrong. let us know if it does it again"  So just putting up with it.

ukclarkkent

cheers dsrogan.  i probbly don't have enough time to keep worrying about this so i'll put up with it like you.  wish i could get the tech spec from ford though.  not phoning them at £1 a minute though.

Turvey

http://www.saynoto0870.com/search.php

 

Enter 'Ford Motor Company'  ;)

 

Or try http://www.pleasepress1.com/ enter 'Ford' 

dsrogan

Replying to the original question.............

I too am very frustrated with my Keyless entry. It too is hit & miss.  Took it to my dealer who could not find a fault so the frustration continues.  Seems to be worse in cold weather.  I think the system needs a little more work by the designers. 

mixmasterlooney

Sort of glad i don't have keyless entry it sounds like a nightmare lol. It's always a wise idea to do as much research as possible before going to the dealer, dealers can be cocks and it's good to have several points to throw at them incase they want to pretend there is no problem.

yunii
I've got keyfree,keyless system ,had car for almost 3 months now but mine seems fine ,on a mk2.5 titanium 2010 plate, so is mates ST225 on 09 plate,he's had no issues,
How old are your cars ? Guys with problems??
Yunii
cuke

Hi, I wouldn't

 

Sort of glad i don't have keyless entry it sounds like a nightmare lol. It's always a wise idea to do as much research as possible before going to the dealer, dealers can be cocks and it's good to have several points to throw at them incase they want to pretend there is no problem.

I wouldn't base my decision on keyless by this thread. It is a known fact that the few that have issues, against the majority that don't, only post in forums...

Unclepierre

        My Focus is a Mk3 TiX bought new last year, and I initially had all sorts of problems with the keyless entry.  

 

        That is until on a visit to my dealer, it was pointed out that I shouldn't try and lock it by putting my hand round the handle and pressing the little black window, I was trying to lock and unlock it at the same time! Doh!

 

        The other thing I didn't realise at first is that only the door near the sensor will unlock, i.e. if I stand next to the drivers door  the passenger cannot unlock it on the other side.

 

         My excuse is my old age...

Foci_st3
Well looks like my drivers door sensor has packed up after 17 months and 21300 miles so just gotta work out when to get ford to sort it as I'm still waiting for parts to do the headlamp TSB.
alexp999

Well looks like my drivers door sensor has packed up after 17 months and 21300 miles so just gotta work out when to get ford to sort it as I'm still waiting for parts to do the headlamp TSB.

 

What TSB is that?

 

Funny thing, my keyless entry/locking is now playing up, going in for a second time on Thursday. Double lock stopped working via keyless, apparently if any error is logged in regards to the keyless/locking system then it disables the double lock functionality. I also still get the occasional incident, where the car doesn't unlock properly. It physically unlocks the doors, but the mirrors remain in and as I open the door the alarm goes off.

 

Here is hoping some further investigation will determine what is going wrong...



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