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martyntp
HI

New to this and need some help/advice.

2006 Smax 2.0tdci titanium. Absolutely love it but recently had problems with starting the car. It turns over reluctantly and then eventually fires, will sometimes need to try twice before it does. Asked ford at last service, but they were not sure, said it could 1 of several things. Then this morning it would start at all. In the end wouldn't even turn over properly. Connected it up to jump start it and bingo eventually it fired. So I have replaced the battery and again wouldn't start, turned over a few times and then would even turn over at all. Jumped it again and it started. Took it for a run to give the battery some juice, got home left it for 15mins. Tried again and at first it would fire, tried again and it wouldn't even turn over, then tried again and eventually it started. Wife has taken it to work, but now just waiting for the call that says it wont start again. Any ideas anyone? Oh and to top it all off it keeps telling me that the ford keycode i have is incorrect on the stereo, wonderful!!!
137699
As it's a diesel if could be related to the DMF (dual mass flywheel) on the clutch.
I take it your dealer has applied the software update to the GEM & BCM to resolve the low battery issue that affected the early models? (i.e. the display on the dash and radio shuts off as soon as you lock the car? If it stays on afterwards then you have a battery drain and this could cause issues next time you start the car?!)
JezzaA
Hey up all, have an 06' s-max 2.0 tdci titanium which me and my wife love (and the kids), just started to get a couple of probs starting to appear, first one is the brake bulbs, first the offside stopped working then the nearside gave up the ghost, have replaced both and the offside has blown again! annoying. Fixing planes for a living the bulbs weren't to much off a problem, you do need bendy hands.
Second prob is that the MPG has dropped down and i have noticed smoke on hard acceleration, im hopeing its the EGR valve requireing a clean but im not too sure! if any one has any ideas i would appreciate some advice.

Thanks Jezza
finalspin
[quote name='martyntp' timestamp='1320322808' post='151122']
HI

New to this and need some help/advice.

2006 Smax 2.0tdci titanium. Absolutely love it but recently had problems with starting the car. It turns over reluctantly and then eventually fires, will sometimes need to try twice before it does. Asked ford at last service, but they were not sure, said it could 1 of several things. Then this morning it would start at all. In the end wouldn't even turn over properly. Connected it up to jump start it and bingo eventually it fired. So I have replaced the battery and again wouldn't start, turned over a few times and then would even turn over at all. Jumped it again and it started. Took it for a run to give the battery some juice, got home left it for 15mins. Tried again and at first it would fire, tried again and it wouldn't even turn over, then tried again and eventually it started. Wife has taken it to work, but now just waiting for the call that says it wont start again. Any ideas anyone? Oh and to top it all off it keeps telling me that the ford keycode i have is incorrect on the stereo, wonderful!!!
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hi mate, i had the exact same problem with our 56 plate smax on monday, draikned battery, hard to start, hooked up jump leads and it started, my mechanic was with ford for 28 years and knows his stuff, i was dreading it being the dmf but thankfully it wasnt, turned out to be the starter, the armature was completely burned out and new brushes required, he got it refurbed, all this and only 80 inc labour... car is perfect now!
GrahamC
Wonder whether there is any known systematic issue with Bluetooth module?

After a year and a bit from new, I experienced electronic issues which gradually worsened. Initially, the Bluetooth connection to the phone (HTC Desire if that is of interest) would drop out, with increasing regularity until it didn't work at all. Then I noticed the cruise control dropping out and hanging such that it was neither on nor off. Finally I experienced a fully flat battery.

Ford dealer indicated that the fault was just the Bluetooth module, and replaced it, after which the car worked properly again.

Now, after another year and a bit, I am experiencing the Bluetooth phone connection dropping in and out a few times per hour on my daily commute ...

Obviously I am concerned that there may be a pattern here ...
137699
[quote name='GrahamC' timestamp='1328802670' post='165689']
Wonder whether there is any known systematic issue with Bluetooth module?

After a year and a bit from new, I experienced electronic issues which gradually worsened. Initially, the Bluetooth connection to the phone (HTC Desire if that is of interest) would drop out, with increasing regularity until it didn't work at all. Then I noticed the cruise control dropping out and hanging such that it was neither on nor off. Finally I experienced a fully flat battery.

Ford dealer indicated that the fault was just the Bluetooth module, and replaced it, after which the car worked properly again.

Now, after another year and a bit, I am experiencing the Bluetooth phone connection dropping in and out a few times per hour on my daily commute ...

Obviously I am concerned that there may be a pattern here ...
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There is a new bluetooth software update available - maybe that will cure your issue? You can download & apply yourself from the smax owners club website (providing you have the USB port), or you can pay for Ford to do it.
mxl
Hi all

New here and after a bit of advice. Got a ford Smax tdci 2.0L auto on 08 plate and it has started jerking when stopped at lights or a roundabout, as if the clutch is slipping. Could this be the case or am I looking in the wrong area? Its done 78K miles but mostly motorway. Any help appreciated before I chance the local ford dealer!!
137699
Can be a failing Dual Mass Flywheel issue.
Uplands5
[color=#BCBCBC][color="#000000"]Hi All,
Over recent months I have used this forum for info regarding SMAX troubles as I have experienced the Alarm/wiper problem and Power Steering Issues. I have found peoples comments an interesting point of reference, so hopefully my experience should help others.

I have an 08 SMAX and have had the Alarm module and Power Steering pump replaced last year under warranty, but after a few months the power steering started to whine again on and off, various visits to the local ford dealer and they suspected the steering rack at £900-£1000 as I am out of warranty!

I was not convinced and lived with it for a few more months until I’d had enough of the noise and stiff steering, I then decided to take the car to a large south coast ford dealer, they took a look and advised that it could be the rack. After some investigation they asked if the Power Steering Reservoir had been changed, I advised as far as I was aware no it hadn't. They advised this was the first course of action and I decided to go for it, £250 including the investigation time.

I now have the car back and I don't want to tempt fate but fingers crossed the steering is fine, it’s like a new car, I've had it since it was 2 years old (I've owned it for 2 years now) and I don't think the steering has ever been so good!

I will keep you posted if the fault reoccurs or not.[/color][/color]
ging
hi as some of you know i have had a couple of problems with my turbo on the 2.5 st bus but that is the least of hger worries a mounth ago she spat off the aux drive belt with no worning while tiking over on my drive sounds like nothink till i got her down to work the belt went round the cam belt and knocked out the timming bent all the valve and made a big mess i found when i stripped her down completely recked the motor gutted
137699
There is/was someone selling a 2.5T engine on ebay.
thomas56
[quote name='maxxedout' timestamp='1276268273' post='84900']
Hi, New to this too but very frustrated - My S-Max is a great car and the alarm fault as described above was fixed in warranty as were the parking sensors however 9 weeks out of warranty the ABS pump has gone - started up all by itself whilst parked up and locked outside the house and almost caught fire - husband managed to get the battery disconnected in time.
Ford say £800+ for a new pump and not getting much joy from them even though its only 2 months out of warranty.

I love the car but they seem to have the same recurring problems that Ford deny. Has anyone else had this problem just out of warranty and how did they get on with Ford?

Oh and did anyone elses almost catch fire?

Cheers
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Have just had my second abs pump/module fitted same as yourself pump running all the time even with keys out of car, first time was in warranty but has cost €1600 this time round. Funny dealership has never seen this fault before and I have had it twice. Car is 2007 with 66800km on the clock.
S-Max clutch woes
Help! This is our 2nd S-Max. First one (2007) had the brake problems quoted above. Eventually repaired prior to general recall, and when we asked if it should be upgraded at recal we were told "No" even though it had been repaired with the original, presumably faulty part. Result: about 4 months later we suffered one of those 'extremes of temperature' that apparently caused the fault in the first place, and the brakes failed on one of the steepest hills in London, in the snow! That was 2008, and we traded it in for another make. 2011 comes along and we decide to give the S-Max another try. This one started with a clutch smell which we were told was 'normal'. A week later we had a breakdown caused by the computer. A month or so after that the boot started popping open of its own acord as we drove along. Last month the clutch wore out. 10 months old, 8000 miles on the clock. We have both been driving 20 years and neither of us has ever needed to replace a clutch, despite owning cars for up to 8 years and about 100K miles. Ford Warranty says it's all down to our poor driving and 'wear and tear'. Now in the 3rd week of the new school year and the car has been at the garage since the last week of the holidays. No courtesy car. Latest news is that Ford have run out of the necessary parts. And they still deny there's a problem. What can we do?
lfcascao
[quote name='Pacific' timestamp='1263683621' post='60359']
Hi,
New to this as well.
Haven't experienced this persistent whining but know it from accelerating at high speed (motorway) - it is quite loud. Always assumed it was the turbo.
The problems I have found are:
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[*][color=#0000cd][u][b]Faulty indicator switch (leading to parking lights coming on of own accord when the engine is off - potential battery drainer[/b][/u][/color] - and motorway hazard as indicators again could come on of own accord - it is a known problem and got it replaced under warranty.
[*]Other issue is how farcically difficult it is to change rear break bulbs [img]http://www.fordownersclub.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/mad.gif[/img] -has any one succeeded?? Please let me know
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Hello,

since every problem I had (not so many or headhachefull ones) were asked before and solved before (thanks all for that) I could't find any solution to my recent problem, a Faulty indicator switch (leading to parking lights coming on of own accord when the engine is off).
Does anyone know how to solve it?
My S-Max is a 2008 2.0 tdci, so without warranty.

Thank you for your attention
jpunter22
Hi everyone

I have got a 2007 2.0 tdci smax and i have a few problems which I'm trying to get to the bottom of.

1. There is a constant whinning/buzzing noise inside the car. I have been told by a garage that its the electric power steering motor/pump and this is normal on these, can anyone clarify that this is the case as I'm not sure this is true.

2. When i'm driving the car I get a lurching motion at low settled revs (doing 30mph in 4th gear, in second when you are turning into junctions). There is plenty of power there when i accelerate a bit but when I let it settle again it starts doing it again. I have been told by the same garage its because its a heavy car and that I just need to be in a lower gear, which does sort the problem but I have never had in all my years driving a car that you have needed to change into first gear to turn into junctions or not been able to be in 4th gear doing 30mph. I have heard stories about the dual mass flywheels being an issue on these and was woundering if anyone can help.

3. Last one now. When i put the car into reverse the parking distances system does a continuous beep for about 10 seconds then only seems to work sometimes or eraticly. I have noticed that the rear sensors have no longer got the black coating on them and that there is a some white powder on a couple. Could this be the cause of the problem as the front ones are fine and seem to work still.

I would really appriciate some help on these issues if anyone has experenced or had similar problems, and how they were solved or if they can be sloved. Many thanks for any help in advance.

Jamie
Evovrs
HELP!!!

Im stuck,,,
I work on a 2006 smax 1,8 tdci,
The turbo was broken, I've changed it, started an everything was fine, after 5 min I revded it to maybe 2500, and it started to overrev, it went on for about 10 sec,,
Then it stalled , after this it won't start, take it back into shop and check the inter cooler, it was oil in it, drained it out and tried starting, but no luck, I checked the fuel lines and the diesel is not there,
Checked the engine oil, and it was about 1 cm over the max mark, and the oil smell like diesel,
I've heard on Volvo 1,6 a seal in the pump can give away and send diesel to the pan, but can't find anything on this with the 1,8 tdci,
Anyone experienced the same?
Ste70
New to this I have a 1.8 tdci and the engine malfution light comes on and I lose power and 1 help
skinnydipper

Hi all,

 

like most people on this forum, I've just joined because i've got a problem, but dont worry, looks like a good site, think i'll be back to see if I can pimp my ride a bit once problems are sorted.

 

Anyhow we've got an 07 s-max 2.5t, with full sports pack. It's only got 30'000 miles on clock. It's a great looking family car, absolutely rubbish on mpg, and I mean terrible, but is fun to drive, we've obut now got a problem with the steering. 

 

Story is the battery in key fob started to die, ended up replacing battery after having to open doors manually for a week, but think it was too late as when I replaced it didnt work. Then same day power steering packed up, I thought this may be something to do with alarm/immobiliser. Took down to local dealership today. They say there's swarf in power steering fluid, will have to change pump and steering rack at a cost of £1750.

 

Now 30,000 miles isnt a lot, and £1750 is a lot of money, is this a common problem, 

137699

Yes it's a common problem - and that fix is the only option I'm afraid.

 

As a fellow 2.5T owner you should be aware of the 2 other common issues:

- Boost Control Solenoids packing up and causing inconsistent boost & poor fuel economy (you should expect to get 25mpg if all's ok), though quite a cheap fix at about £100 but seems to need doing every 20,000 miles or so.

- Blocked oil breather causing a vaccuum which announces itself as a whistling sound on idle and a little later the EML comes on on the dash - quite a big job at around £600 and needs doing every 45,000 miles or so.

 

Have you looked into Bluefin for your S-max? It is a remap option whcih pumps the power output from 220hp to 260hp -but that's not necessarily the reason to do it.... It also increases fuel economy quite considerably. Before bluefin we were averaging 24mpg, in the 3 years since doing this we're gettig 29mpg. The £360 it cost for the DIY kit, it's paid for itself about 6x over in fuel savings.

 

The extra power comes in handy on overtakes also, but at low speed & cruising you would never know it's been remapped.

Andrew Cracknell

Hello - Wanted to list the problems I have experienced with the S-MAX 2.0 TDCi Titanium 07 plate now with 78k on the clock.

 

  1. Boot not opening - catch appeared to not release (seems to be fixed now, can't recall what I did to solve it)
  2. Error code P2263 (ghost code). When exceeding 75mph, Engine Fault light comes on, rev's drop and forced to park up. If you restart the engine, the code disappears and code readers won't find the code. Only if you have a code reader plugged in and reproduce the fault, can you get the code.
  3. Error code P2263 continued..- Seems to be a mine field of options, but all pointing toward the Turbo. Initial analysis from road side assistance recommended cleaning EGR valve but they were not able to get the error code so I think they were guessing a bit.
  4. Drivers side heated wind screen not operating - Yet to try swapping fuses over to do quick check, then hoping to have a deeper look this weekend.
  5. Handbrake button and button caps wore out (spray on chrome coating teared away) - Replace the hand brake buttons and handle with a replacement from ebay.
  6. Exhaust rear box and centre pipe - have a hole in it now so looking to replace that
  7. Tyre wear - heard others commenting on this, does seem to be a bit hungry here (we have the 18" large alloys on). Due a new front set now.
  8. Bonnet lever stopped working but thankfully stopped working after I had opened the bonnet. Upon closing the bonnet it would not catch - Took it to garage and they lubricated the wires and fixed that for free (no charge - regular customer!)
  9. Stop Lamp Fault light upon engine start - Eventually realised it was the stop light strip on the top of the boot that failed. Replaced it and warning light gone away.
  10. Catch on the centre dashboard storage area has failed so it no longer springs open when the button is pushed - haven't got round to fixing that yet.

I really like the look of this MPV but the daunting Error code P2263 is going to hurt the pocket. Replacement turbo unit is looking at £1500 but refurbed unit from ebay is looking like £365 (assuming it's the right one / will need to check). Very tempted to ask my local garage to replace this. I've read somewhere that average life of a turbo is 75k so timing is about right, but would be comforting not to spend labour time, effort and cost to prove/disprove it's a general fault and not just a clean and lubrication needed or something.

fitzynat

 Hi

 

I was wondering if anyone had solved the issue of a Faulty indicator switch (leading to parking lights coming on of own accord when the engine is off)?

 

My 58plate S-Max 2.3 Titanium has recently started doing this and i have no idea where to start. I have searched the web but cant find any solutions or causes... Any help would be great

 

 

Hello,

since every problem I had (not so many or headhachefull ones) were asked before and solved before (thanks all for that) I could't find any solution to my recent problem, a Faulty indicator switch (leading to parking lights coming on of own accord when the engine is off).
Does anyone know how to solve it?
My S-Max is a 2008 2.0 tdci, so without warranty.

Thank you for your attention

Wardys

Hi,

I took my S-max to a garage today because it is losing coolant but no visible leak. They said they did a compression test and the coolant is leaking inside the timing belt cover so it will be the water pump. He said it could last 6 month or fail just up the road and destroy the timing belt and the engine. I asked if it could be a gasket and he said no, a gasket wouldn't leak on a car that new (it's a 08). I am not convinced it needs a new water pump but could someone please advise me what I should do. I might be wrong but I feel as though they are trying to rip me off.

Thanks,

Paul

137699

It needs a new water pump. They leak to indicate they're nearing end of life as you certainly don't want one seizing.

 

Get the timing belt changed at the same time.

robf123

Hi, I have a couple of questions/issues about tyres and pressure sensors.

 

I recently bought a used s-max 59 plate 2.0 diesel titanium. 28k miles. 

 

1) The tyre pressure sensor alert keeps prompting on the dashboard screen.  It's warning of sensor malfunction and warning about high/low pressure. I check the pressures were all fine. Although one of the sensors seems to be missing - that explains the malfunction (no signal from that tyre) but doesn't explain the incorrect warnings about pressure.

 

2) It has expensive run flat tyres all around - and no spare.  But I guess that's normal for this year and trim, right?  (Reason I ask is that Kwik fit told me that was wrong and to take it back to the dealer to sort the tyres.)

 

Anyone else has problems with tyres and pressure sensors?   

 

Thanks

Rob

 

 

jeebowhite

Hi Rob,

 

The issue sounds like the reason for the faulty readings is as you say - a missing sensor. Because the module isnt getting a complete picture, the other three may be correct, but until it gets the info from the fourth sensor, it wont give you a proper reading.

 

I dont believe that the run flat are standard so it sounds like you got a used motor with an owner who paid through the nose for them! Kwik Fit (whilst they know not much about everything) may be referring to the fact that you have either the wrong size wheel, and wrong size tyre (so your speedo could be out) or you may have been given a larger or thinner width of tyre than is standard.

 

go to black circles website, pop your reg in, choose the wheel size and it will tell you sizes you can have, then check the marking on the side of the tyre which gives you the tyre size and profile. This will then tell you if it differs to what black circles suggest you may have the wrong size tyre, not necessarily a big problem (as you can get a few mms difference and you probably wont have any issues.

pknottm

I've just had the clutch and DMF replaced in my S-Max 2.0Dti Zetec 59 plate by a local small garage.

 

Before the replacement, there was no problem selecting any gear (just a grinding when releasing the clutch and vibration at slow speeds).

 

However, it is now extremely difficult to select first gear. From a standstill I can get it into first gear by putting it into second gear, then immediately into first gear. All others gears are fine.

The garage have said it is due to the gear selector cables being worn and have quoted me £233 to replace.

 

Does this sound right, or could it be the clutch needs aligning?

 

Many thanks.

 

herbertpug

Hi All. 

Have a 2006 - 56 plate 2.5T S-Max. 40,000 miles when bought 2 years ago. Now on 70,000.

Great car. First thing done was convert it to LPG which cost £1,800 and we lost no boot space. 

Now gets 27mpg around home (rural) and 32-34 on long trips (200+ motorway miles @ 65-70(ish)) 

With LPG being 64p/litre locally, double these to get the equivalent cost of Petrol (i.e. 54mpg and 64-68mpg)

280 miles = £30-£35

 

Issues:

Aircon Failure. Split Hoses and recharge. c. £200. 

Steering Rack Failure. Got very heavy intermittently. Sent rack for a refurb (c. £200)+p&p + removal / refitting + Fluids.  - Kelley Bray Steering. 

  (Plus washed out the reservoir. All in c. £500. )

 

Oil Breather Failed. (Noise and air sucked in though dipstick / oil filler cap. Used "peg and sock until repaired"). Ordered Volvo replacement from USA  ($200USD inc post - c. £130) Plus fitting and breather pipe (£20) Plus Labour (c. 3 hours @£55+VAT/h) = £370 or so all in. 

 

Rear Brake and top strip bulbs failed. Simple fix. £5

 

Brake Handle trim and button popped off and spring ejected. Not fixed yet. 

 

Precautions:

Changed transmission Fluid

Changed PAS and Coolant

Air filter is K&N panel (washable)

At 62k Changed Timing Belt (not a chain!).Plus water pump. Kit c. £110 + garage labour 2-3 hours. (c. £280 all in)

Always used 10w40 fully synth when cheap on HUKD. 

Tyre use is OK. Always get camber / toe-in / tracking / alignment checked. especially if curb has been bumped. 

 

Future issues?

Clutch smells a little sometimes on steep, slow hill starts. 

Once had alarm going off. Not repeated. 

May check boost solenoids. 

Car is parked outside normally so expecting alarm module issue :(

klh
Hello
I have. 2008 smax which has done 90000 miles. When I go faster than 24mph the windscreen wipers go crazy until I slow down below 24 again. The washer fluid won't come through when I push the button but it is full and there are no warning lights.
No trouble with the alarm either. Any ideas appreciated.
Thanks



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jeebowhite
This is more a thread of known issues,I suggest you start a new topic in the smax forum
CraigStam
I have an S-max T Sport 2.2 Diesel and recently the fuel gauge keeps registering empty or - - whilst driving. Any ideas?


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jeebowhite
Ignite just the fuel it could be a fault with the fuel sender unit or wiring to it
CraigStam
Expensive?


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jeebowhite
Depends on where you going. An indie garage should be able to price it up or advise if the job I'd too far out their remit and refer you to an auto electrician


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