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the jbib
[u]It looks smart and 'factory fitted,' but sadly I don't trust myself playing around with the wires. Plus, will the warranty be affected?[/u]
Lenny
[quote name='the jbib' timestamp='1334185374' post='177187']
[u]It looks smart and 'factory fitted,' but sadly I don't trust myself playing around with the wires. Plus, will the warranty be affected?[/u]
[/quote]

its really not a big job mate,
all the wires are part of the kit and are supplied pre moulded connections,
so you just plug them in to each other,

the only things you need to do yourself is drill a 20mm hole in the bumper on either fog light section,
connect the blue cable to the blue & Orange cable at the rear of the passenger headlight,
remove the 10amp fuse in the engine fuse box and plug it in to the piggy back one, then plug the piggy back one in to the fuse box.

the positioning of the moduiles is personal choice, you dont need to remove your battery box and fit them behind it, you can fit them anywhere you wish.
and the fitting of a switch is purly personal choice too, as they are DRL's they are designed to illuminate when the key is turned in the ignition so you dont need a switch fitted if you dont want to.

i dont see how this modification would effect your warrenty because it run and operates independantly
from any of the cars operations. and its got a fuse fitted so worse thing to happen is the fuse will blow and you need to buy a new one, but that wont happen because all the cables are colour coded just plug in to each other.
RichyU
[img]http://i1151.photobucket.com/albums/o632/RichyU1986/88bfc097.jpg[/img]Hi All,
I have attempted to fit DRL's on my ST (see pic) but am having some problems.
I have tried hooking up the wiring to the dash switch to the right of the steering wheel. Many people have pointed out the wire I need to use that turns off when the headlights come on etc however on my car that wire is constantly live on the ignition. I have a feeling this is due to having Autolamps andd therefore not having the R15 relay. Can anyone confirm the part number of the R15 relay on a facelift mk2?
Thanks,
Lenny
[quote name='RichyU' timestamp='1340691273' post='189123'] Hi All, I have attempted to fit DRL's on my ST (see pic) but am having some problems. I have tried hooking up the wiring to the dash switch to the right of the steering wheel. Many people have pointed out the wire I need to use that turns off when the headlights come on etc however on my car that wire is constantly live on the ignition. I have a feeling this is due to having Autolamps andd therefore not having the R15 relay. Can anyone confirm the part number of the R15 relay on a facelift mk2? Thanks, [/quote] Hi mate, your DRL's look great, i will have a look on Ford microcat later when i get home and tell you the part number for the relay, but a cheaper option may be to fit one of these auto dimmers from gen-labs that will dim your drl's by 50% when your parking lights come on, regardless if your lights are automatic or manual, once it sences positive feed in the parking lights it will dim the drls to 50% making them legal and the same illumination level as your parking lights. i have fitted one to my focus for my ford racing gauges to get them to dim when the parking lights are activated because they were too bright at night driving. here is a link to the item: [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LED-DRL-DAYTIME-RUNNING-LIGHT-AUTO-SWITCH-RELAY-DIMMER-OFF-OR-DIM-ON-BEAM-/230814614170?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item35bd9f829a"]http://www.ebay.co.u...=item35bd9f829a[/url] and here is some wiring information and diagrams for the item, i reckon it would be cheaper than the relay and better results since the drls will still be illuminated and legal too. [url="http://www.fordownersclub.com/forums/topic/31832-guide-fitting-auto-dimmer-unit-from-gen-labs-to-gauges-or-drl/"]http://www.fordowner...-gauges-or-drl/[/url] [img]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/DRLwiring.jpg[/img]
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RichyU
Hi Lenny,
Thanks for your comments, only I am hoping to make the setup as OEM as possible and using the existing circuitry would be much more effective. I even understand there are DRL plugs on the main headlight loom so may consider using that instead of running to the dash, however currently the lights aren't working and I think its a relay only problem. When I spoke to the (unhelpful) guy at Ford Parts (my local one) he looked on the Ford Tech system and said that there was no way to identify the actual relay I need, great help as ever!
Lenny
[quote name='RichyU' timestamp='1340725767' post='189219']
Hi Lenny,
Thanks for your comments, only I am hoping to make the setup as OEM as possible and using the existing circuitry would be much more effective. I even understand there are DRL plugs on the main headlight loom so may consider using that instead of running to the dash, however currently the lights aren't working and I think its a relay only problem. When I spoke to the (unhelpful) guy at Ford Parts (my local one) he looked on the Ford Tech system and said that there was no way to identify the actual relay I need, great help as ever!
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but you know what you require is the R15 relay,
luckily i have the same programme that he woud have been looking at,
i purchased the software because i was sick of the same issue's with ford over here,
so now i just use the software myself then go in to ford requesting the part number and i need to tell them nothing lol
or even buy it from ford in the uk through ebay.

their is no need to run the cables in to the interior either mate,
their is an ignition live feed in the engine fuse box, and a signal feed can be obtained at the rear of the headlights like you say mate,
we just run a feed in to the interior in order to fit a rocker switch so that we can switch the drl's off if ever required for stealth mode lol

ill get you a screen shot of the part later, along with a price and a finis code.
Lenny
[size=4][b]the R15 relay is finis 1425751
but you may also require finis 1684288 its a jumper cable
but i believe some of the parts required are not available in the uk mate,
see here:
[url="http://www.fordownersclub.com/forums/topic/30154-factory-daytime-running-lights-focus-mk2-mk25-c-max/"]http://www.fordowner...mk2-mk25-c-max/[/url][/b][/size]

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RichyU
Cheers Lenny,
Only problem is, I understand its a 5 pin not 4 pin relay I need (an assumption due to R15 having 5 slots) can give you a pic of the fusebox if that helps or my number plate?
Thanks for the help so far!
Lenny
[quote name='RichyU' timestamp='1340741143' post='189276']
Cheers Lenny,
Only problem is, I understand its a 5 pin not 4 pin relay I need (an assumption due to R15 having 5 slots) can give you a pic of the fusebox if that helps or my number plate?
Thanks for the help so far!
[/quote]

no problem mate,
this is as much as i know regarding the relay and factory fit DRL's mate,
but if you follow the link to pidu's guide he has used the same relay that i have linked you to and has gotten his lights to function as DRL's the guy also wrote some diagnostic software for the focus to allow us to activate new features via a re-wired ELM327 so he really know what he is talking about regarding the focus and modifications. i cant explain why the relay socket would have 5 slots and only use four, but i can send you screen shot of all of the relays if you wish?
[url="http://www.fordownersclub.com/forums/topic/30154-factory-daytime-running-lights-focus-mk2-mk25-c-max/"]http://www.fordownersclub.com/forums/topic/30154-factory-daytime-running-lights-focus-mk2-mk25-c-max/[/url]
RichyU
Thanks Lenny,
Might just get the relay and hope for the best, tbh its only £25 in the bigger scheme of things. The jumper cable says for halogen lights only, I have xenons so guess that it works differently. Plus I'm hoping to run proper DRL's not just dimmed headlights so might try without that.
Lenny
[quote name='RichyU' timestamp='1340776582' post='189344']
Thanks Lenny,
Might just get the relay and hope for the best, tbh its only £25 in the bigger scheme of things. The jumper cable says for halogen lights only, I have xenons so guess that it works differently. Plus I'm hoping to run proper DRL's not just dimmed headlights so might try without that.
[/quote]

ok mate,
keep us posted on here with the progress anyways, for others who may wish to follow
RichyU
Well got the relay today finis 1425751 and it doesn't work. Having tested it and spotting a relay in the fusebox it turns out to be the same as the other one (R16 i think?) a 4 pin open by default relay. So, next question is, what relay do I need in that case? Want the DRL's to come on with no lights on and go off with lights turned on, using the relay as necessary?
Haz93
Hi mate,
Very jealous of the white ST :D

Not sure if I'm correct, I will check when I get home but in the haynes manual I think the drl's are controlled via a fuse in the footwell fusebox, not via a relay in the engine bay. That then lets the headlights come on at 80% when the headlights are off on the switch. I believe there is no extra wiring for the drl just the fuse to bypass the switch.
If it were me I would buy a seperate relay kit like the one controlling the drls that Preee, myself and others have, that only dim the drls when the headlights come on. Or just a standard relay kit
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Day-Time-Running-Light-Switch-Automatic-Control-ON-OFF-DRL-Lamp-Relay-Harness-/160831941758?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item257254ac7e#ht_625wt_922
RichyU
Thanks for the comments on the car tis loveeeeeeely to drive but what really makes it worthwhile is the soundtrack of the 5 cylinder warble and the turbo whine. :D

Well I was hoping to keep as OEM as possible to be honest, and I was led to believe that relay R15 was for DRL's but Ford are no use at defining which relay fits which slot :(
That link appears to be to a U.S. seller? Any UK dealers?

I didn't want to affect the headlights at all just wanted some extra led's to act as some sort of DRL (or even better DRL and on with sidelights?).
Stoney871
Try this relay, saves having to hunt for the OEM part which Ford can't seem to locate themselves.

[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/230814614160?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649"]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/230814614160?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649[/url]
Haz93
Just had a thought while driving through the fog this morning. With the relay I have ( same as ones used by Preee in the guide ) there is a wire to dim the DRL's which I have connected to the sidelights, and a wire to switch them off which I haven't connected yet. Could this be connected to the fog lights so the DRL's go off when the fogs are on because they look a bit silly when both are on.

Any thoughts or advice on which wire to attach to??
Lenny
[quote name='Haz93' timestamp='1351065765' post='213309']
Just had a thought while driving through the fog this morning. With the relay I have ( same as ones used by Preee in the guide ) there is a wire to dim the DRL's which I have connected to the sidelights, and a wire to switch them off which I haven't connected yet. Could this be connected to the fog lights so the DRL's go off when the fogs are on because they look a bit silly when both are on.

Any thoughts or advice on which wire to attach to??
[/quote]
Yes this would work
or you could fit a switch to the positive feed of the drl's to manually switch them off.
I personally think the more lights in fog the better.
Giffer2
Great guide which is really helpful, 2 suggestions/hints which may help people.


I didn't piggy back of that fuse but instead plugged the piggyback connector into the empty fuse socket to the left in the picture, that's also 12v ignition live but doesn't have anything else running of it in my car.

I had two blue/orange wires in my headlight harness (though one may be Orange/blue but hard to tell) but my sidelight was in the b/o wire in pin 4 (numbered on the actual connector).
Preee
Glad the guide was helpful , theres always ways to make things easier when following the guides , how are you liking the DRL's?
Giffer2
They look good, I went for a different style to the foglight versions as I know many people around here are stupid and think that any lights in that area are fog lights so like to flash you to tell you.
patrick-1020

are these the drls you have paul? looking for some myself and these are the only ones i can find what look decent 

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/09-FORD-FOCUS-4D-Sedan-DRL-WHITE-LED-FOGLIGHT-DAYTIME-RUNNING-LIGHT-LAMPS-/320923946094?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item4ab88ecc6e

Preee

are these the drls you have paul? looking for some myself and these are the only ones i can find what look decent 

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/09-FORD-FOCUS-4D-Sedan-DRL-WHITE-LED-FOGLIGHT-DAYTIME-RUNNING-LIGHT-LAMPS-/320923946094?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item4ab88ecc6e

Yes Patrick , they look exactly like the one that i brought.

mixmasterlooney

I find the guide a bit confusing, i don't see why the switch needs to be a 2 way switch and i know it is optional however i prefer to install a switch indeed. Second in the guide, why was the glove box removed, that part for sure i don't understand.

 

I will need to get the DRL's in my hands to get a firm understanding of this, even so before i buy the switch, unless anyone can explain why it requires a 2 way switch. I think i will also purchase different switch although i did find the one in the guide on ebay, i am a bit worried that LED might become over powering with the brightness and annoying over time. i would much rather a none light switch.

 

Thirdly i cannot identify where on the car that switch has been placed. Must state this is my first ford and i don't even have the car right here ATM to look so that doesn't help.

 

Also what is all the excess duel layer 12 guage wire all about?

Lenny

I find the guide a bit confusing, i don't see why the switch needs to be a 2 way switch and i know it is optional however i prefer to install a switch indeed. Second in the guide, why was the glove box removed, that part for sure i don't understand.
 
I will need to get the DRL's in my hands to get a firm understanding of this, even so before i buy the switch, unless anyone can explain why it requires a 2 way switch. I think i will also purchase different switch although i did find the one in the guide on ebay, i am a bit worried that LED might become over powering with the brightness and annoying over time. i would much rather a none light switch.
 
Thirdly i cannot identify where on the car that switch has been placed. Must state this is my first ford and i don't even have the car right here ATM to look so that doesn't help.
 
Also what is all the excess duel layer 12 guage wire all about?


I have followed this guide 100% and can explain to you on behalf of preee.

The switch is optional as stated,
I have chosen to fit the switch as I like the option of stealth mode i.e. engine on with no drl active.

The switch doesn't need to be 2way but if you want an illuminating switch it requires an earth feed so power the illumination so an illuminating switch will have 3 pin outs.

The glove box removal is to gain access to the rubber grommet that feeds cables from inside the car to the engine bay.
The removal of glovebox is not required for standard installation.
But if you would like to fit a switch, then you need to run an additional 2core cable from the engine bay in through the grommet behind the glove box and over to the pocket in the dash that is next to the OBD port in the drivers footwell.

Remove the panel and drill in to the top of the pocket to fit rocker switch inside pocket,
You will require spade crimp connectors to fit cables to switch correctly.

Image1199-1.jpg

the image below is for illustration purposes only.
This is an image of my interior illumination switch which doubles as a light to illuminate the dash pocket.
It feeds power to my bird bath and cup holder illumination.
I have later fitted another rocker switch next to it for the drls but I don't have an up to date image.

Image1197.jpg

I hope this response helps on behalf of preee.
mixmasterlooney

Thanks Lenny, i have ordered the parts and sure it will be alot easier once i got everything :D

Preee
Cheers Lenny great. Answers .
Lenny

Cheers Lenny great. Answers .

thanks preee,
I devote my life to the forum while you live and enjoy yours ;)
Preee

thanks preee,
I devote my life to the forum while you live and enjoy yours ;)

Lmao you wait now until your not around , i will answer all of your guides. :D

Nickster

Cheers for the great guide preee , got mine fitted today . Not received my piggyback fuse yet so its not properly wired up to the acc yet  .

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Preee

Looks great Nick , loving the colour of your car m8

Nickster

Cheers Paul , sometimes wish i'd gone for silver after seeing how good yours looks !  and vision blue is a swine to paint match as i'm just finding out ... stupidly scratched the rear wheel arch right down to metal couple of weeks back :(

jeebowhite

Guys, wondering if anyone can help me out! I have bought a set of DRL's that I am awaiting delivery of, I am currently trying to find the appropriate wire in which I need to attach the "DRL OFF" wire. I have seen the wiring schematics, but cant make out if the blue/orange cable is in fact for the headlight, or the sidelight. Can anyone interpret http://www.halfords.com/wcsstore/HalfordsConsumerDirect/images/catalog/HaynesWDs.pdf for me and advise which wire is the sidelight?

 

I know that Paul's guide shows O/B however I am led to believe the wiring is different on my CMAX to a standard Focus on some things, and I want to be 100% sure :)

Preee

Jeeb

Best way is with a 12v tester , and turning your side lights on test which wore becomes live.

jeebowhite

not sure I have one of those! but I do have a multimeter, just dont have a clue how to use it! :P

 

Actually I do have a screwdriver electrical tester... Maybe I need to dig that out...

jeebowhite

Well My DRL's arrived, they are entirely aftermarket so a bit of bodging will be required...

 

I think I know which wire is the sidelight, so I need to cut a small split into it and wire the white into there and test it at some point. However I am struggling to find a wire I can splice into in the engine bay that is live only when the ignition is on. I saw a few things about piggy backing the fuse but I thought that it was the GEM that controlled it, inside the passenger footwell? so if I piggy back in the bonnet fusebox, which one should I piggy back onto? or is it best to splice?

 

if anyone can advise the fuse number to piggyback, I do have a piggy back ready to go to try :)

jeebowhite

OK so I went out to play in the light rain...

 

I found that if I hijack fuse 35 with a piggy back that seems to work fine :) now I just need it to dry out so that I can get out there and do the wiring properly!

mixmasterlooney

Finally got around to installing these bad boys, had them for so long now. I am very pleased with these DRL's they look totally factory fitted, the brightness is awesome... not like those dull led strips that people have, these are very bright like genuine DRL's

 

The dimming feature works spot on. The installation process for me went rather smooth, i did not install the switch as i felt kind of lazy about routing cable through the firewall after seeing the hole behind the engine. don't think i will be installing the switch either although i have everything i need to do so since it all works effortlessly. 

 

Not sure of the exact distance but DRL's don't need to dim/go off when indicator is on, unless they are within a certain distance of the dipped/main beam lights. These lights are far enough away from the headlights hence no feature for going off when indicator is on.

 

It did not require any other tool than a flat head screwdriver to remove the headlights for easy access to the fogs. My kit had everything i needed, good amounts of cable ties, and with a sort of crimp that slices into the side light cable without stripping the insulation... i don't know if others had this but this was too less. (I did use a pliers to squeeze it together as my girly hands were not upto the job) With all honestly you can clip it together by hand.

 

Beside the fog lamp there was already a hole big enough to route the cable. i cannot tell if this is from the factory or not....

 

Another thing on my car i seem to have a second headlight wiring loom just laying about under under the headlight with more pins, it seems to have the same colours plus more than the standard headlight loom and same cable thickness etc. what is this for?

 

The piggyback fuse plugs in as normal, my kit came with colour pictures showing what seems like an MK2 fuse box and mk2.5 box... not sure if it's an mk2 but it shows a very similar fuse box with a slightly different layout. the mk2.5 picture showed where the fuse goes perfectly. 

 

During the installation i forgot to put back the 10 amp fuse alongside the 6 amp, this caused the engine management light to come on and a message on the display saying engine malfunction. I fitted the 10 amp fuse, took the car for a drive and error code disappeared. Without both fuse, the circuit is open which if the equivalent of of no connection.

 

Here are some pictures

 

Plastic clip/crimp that taps into the side light cable on the loom (taped up the white cable)

 

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Earth cable and piggyback fuse loom

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Hole that was already there, with loom coming through
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Daytime close up shot, 23c outside sun shining
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Daytime shot about 5 meters away in the shade of a multi story car park, as you can see they are extremely bright, especially from a distant
 
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I get ALOT of focus owners and none focus drivers looking at them, even mk3 owners, i think these look much smarter than the mk3 LED's. deffo a much nicer looking package. The DRL's sit exactly the same as the mondeo DRL's, this surely adds to the factory look
jeebowhite

I am a bit dubious to using the scotch locks, and think when I do it, I may end up splicing directly into the wire, has anyone else done this, or do most of you scotchlock?

mixmasterlooney

I am a bit dubious to using the scotch locks, and think when I do it, I may end up splicing directly into the wire, has anyone else done this, or do most of you scotchlock?

 

Use it dude, the purpose of it isn't to carry any kind of high voltage therefore it doesn't need a very secured connection between the two wires. The control unit only needs a slight voltage change and that's the signal to dim the lights.

 

Has anyone tried to wire the white wire into the full beam wire so it turns off completely when full beams are on. I think i will attempt a go at this. TBH i am not totally sure how the control unit will handle this, as there will potentially be two signals at once being received, one from the blue and one from the white whenever side lights are on, and full beams are switched on.

 

Thinking about it, if the blue wire was tapped into the dipped beams instead of the side lights whenever full beams are switched on there would only be one signal received as dipped beams would switch off and in the process switch off the DRL's. This would  allow the DRL's to switch in between flashing of full beams.

jeebowhite

what colour scotch locks do you use? I have blue but not sure if this is too large... otherwise, if its a case of dig out a soldering iron and cut a nick into the wire then that might be as easy

mixmasterlooney

I used a red coloured scotchlok, that is 22-16 AWG on the back of it, perfect fit. the blue might be a bit big indeed. I really don't think it's worth soldering. This is creating unnecessary work and making it a permanent connection. With the scotchlok it's easy to remove the kit if you ever need to without leaving a trace.

 

The scotchloks doesn't create enough force to slice the wire nor is the blade part of it small enough to do so, it barely pierced the insulation for me.

 

What i did though, i stripped some of the headlight loom sleeve keeping the scotchlok away from the connector block for the headlight incase needs be that the cable needs to be joint together, there is enough room for a crimp

jeebowhite

In the end I just cut the shielding and pulled it back with a small enough gap and wrapped the wire around it, and for now, have covered it with electrical tape (might as well continue Ford's obsession) and it works a treat. wont bother soldering it I dont think but as the cable is wrapped around it, its not going anywhere and is making a permenant connection, so my just tidy it up but now my install is complete. I need to get the photo's up when I get a chance, not as smart as those that are embedded into the fog housing but I think they look alright!

huey45
Hi preee
I missed the link I sent you on pm, please have a look at this and advise with thoughts

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370876066707

Regards Keith
jeebowhite

Hi Keith,

 

Looking at that, in my opinion, you will need to be careful, as they are projectors, and I dont believe your factory lights will be. As such, these could be seen as a retrofit HDI and those are illegal, however the integrated DRL's look good.

Preee

Hi Keith , i'm with Jeeb on this one be careful when buying the projectors , although it does state they are road legal ! , if you do buy them you might want to screen grab the advert. also perhaps print the information off and go and ask an MOT garage if they would fail they if they were fitted.

kashcheema1
Hi guys, sorry to bring up such ab old thread. Im new here, my name is K and I wanted to ask a question about DRLs on my focus mk2.5. I am looking at ordering these DRLs from a UK seller, what do you guys think:
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=281284313991

Anyway I'm not savvy on installing these at all and I'm not afraid to admit that! The local lights and audio garage will fit these for £70. I want them wired to the ignition like preee has done and to dim when the sidelights and dipped beam come on. He said that these also have the in built amber indicators on them, so they flash amber when indicating, by looking at the eBay post is that correct?

I wanted to see if any of you kind folk, local to me in Bexleyheath and surrounding areas who have installed these successfully in their cars could install these for me? For a price of course. I would much rather get it done by one of you enthusiasts than someone who may not care too much about the correct install.. Make sense?

Many thanks in anticipation, K.

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kashcheema1
Ps. I'd much rather they didn't turn amber when indicating..is that possible?

Thank you.

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jeebowhite
Hi matey, I would be happy to help but I'm In medway so if you don't mind a trek I will help.

But as for indicators, if you don't want them then as long as you don't connect them they won't work :-)

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kashcheema1

hello buddy, i have just looked on google maps and medway is only 35mins drive from me, so if it is ok with you, i would really appreciate your help.

 

and as for the indicators, yeh sorry mate, as you can see i am a complete novice with all this! 

 

these are the lights i will order tonight or tomorrow if we can agree a day and time that is ok with you: http://www.ebay.com/itm/281284313991

 

i can only assume that these drls will do all that i want them to do...turn on with the ignition, dim with sidelights and dipped beams on?

 

thanks mate, i will sort you out for your troubles at whatever price you quote. :-)

 

kash

jeebowhite

Hi Kash,

 

No worries, well get them ordered as to me they look like they will do the job perfectly :)

 

Just as a heads up, I recently knackered my neck, so I might be more supervisor and little work and I might need you to be the muscles :P If you get them for Tuesday / Wednesday, how does Thursday sound?

 

Drop me a message and we can discuss it further :)



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