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Lenny
[b][i]I've decided to fit the ST gauge pod to my 1.6TDCi Focus[/i][/b]

[b][i]This modification has been done before by another member and non members of FOC,

i have searched the internet for information on this Modification and it is possible to an extent. [/i][/b]

[b][i]The ST pod will fit the focus dash but the ST gauges wont operate in the focus due to them being a new breed of Can-Bus type electronic gauges and are not compatible with the regular aftermarket gauge probes and sensors,

their is one member who has converted his gauges to replicate the face of the ST ones and his Information can be found by [url="http://www.fordownersclub.com/forums/topic/29132-focus-st-gauge-pod-fitted-to-tdci/page__pid__157480#entry157480"]Clicking Here [/url]

As result some after market gauges are required and a maximum of two 52mm Gauges can be fitted in the pod.

I have purchased the ST gauges and Pod from this seller at a very affordable and Competitive price of £50 [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FOCUS-ST-2-5-BOOST-GAUGE-CURENTLY-BREAKING-/120805607845?_trksid=p5197.m7&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D4%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D4916412113961188092"]Click Here [/url][/i][/b]
[b][i]He will also supply the outer dash piece required for the install on request all for under £100 including P&P [/i][/b]

[b][i]Since the stock ST electronic gauges are no use in the focus

i Purchased these beautiful ford racing gauges on eBay [/i][/b][url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-RACING-BOOST-GAUGE-52MM-BLACK-FACE-NEW-RELEASE-/270854810414?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3f10346b2e"][b][i]Click Here The seller is 100% [/i][/b][/url]

[b][i]a maximum of 2 will fit in the ST pod and are available in black or white face depending on your personal preference.[/i][/b]

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i started to get to work on what i currently have to hand,
Which is the gauge pod and dash piece,


so i have disected the gauge pod and plan to use the existing ST gauge face as the flat plate to drill two new 52mm holes in the centre and fit the new gauges in to it,

then carbon wrap the area around the gauges resulting in a nice tidy fit in the pod and saving me over an hour trying to manufacture a plate to hold the 2 new gauges.

Here are some pictures of the gauge pod and the parts i plan to use on the focus.[/i][/b]


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Guide Continued Below [img]http://www.fordownersclub.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif[/img]
Lenny
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[i][b]the gauge face looks slanted at an angle but it actually sits flush when mounted to the pod dash piece,

i thought the slant would be an issue when fitting the new 52mm gauges to the clear plastic face of the stock pod,

but since it sits flush and straight in the pod this plan will work perfectly, [img]http://www.fordownersclub.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif[/img]

[size=2]i also need to cut away the silver rings behind the clear section to create space for the rear of New Gauges.[/size][/b][/i]
[i][b][size=2]Decided to Purchase some Matt Black Vinyl for the spacearound the gauges,

purchased an A4 Sized sheet from this seller [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/120766025846?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%3A80%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dp4712.m570.l1313%26_nkw%3D120766025846%26_sacat%3DSee-All-Categories%26_fvi%3D1&_rdc=1"]Click Here [/url] Fast Delivery and a Perfect Match to the Pod surround [img]http://www.fordownersclub.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif[/img]

and I plan to fit it over the clear Plexiglas section of the pod then drill thetwo 52mm holes for the new gauges.[/size][/b][/i]
Lenny
[size=2][b][i][color=#FF0000][color=#000000]Got the Dremil out and fitted the angle Grinder type Blade and since the clear plastic lens on the gauge pod is seperate to the silver rings, im going to cut the silver rings out of it, leaving a flat surface with a clear backing to fit the new aftermarket gauges in place. [/color]

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Lenny
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Plenty of room at the rear for the new gauges to fit [img]http://www.fordownersclub.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif[/img]
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Next Step is Cutting ou the Dash to fit the Pod Surround [img]http://www.fordownersclub.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif[/img]

first step is to

[size=3]Remove the stereo surround,
The stereo
2 centre air vents [/size]

and finally the speedo cluster, [/i][/b][/size]
TDCiST
its such a shame they arent just plug and play!!

I'd like to do this mod, but i get the feelig id get too lazy half way through!!
Lenny
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to remove the speedo cluster, put the steering wheel in the lowest position possible,

then where the leather skirt meets the dash above the steering coulmn just pull to unclip it,
followed by removing two T25 screws holding the cluster in place, simply remove these screws and store in a safe place till cutting is complete,

once screws have been removed, insert a small flat headed screwdriver in the line at the top of the cluster and genly push downwards,
the speedo cluster will drop out of position,

once out reach around the back of the cluster and unclip the plug, it is on a hinge type clip,

please note: electric windows, wipers, indicators and central locking ar all still fully functional when the cluster has been removed.

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Once i had the gauges removed, i sat the dash section on top to see where it would sit and also try and spot the markings under the dash made by Ford on the production line,

each hole that needs to be cut in order to fit this section is all premarked on the underside of the dash by ford[/i][/b][/size]
Lenny
[size=2][b][i]Pictured Below is an image of the Dash under the Speedo gauge,

you can see one of the markings made by ford, this is wher a hole is required to be cut in order to fit the pod surround.

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Depending on what tools you are using for this Modification,
you may not ba able to reach all of the holes marked out by ford, but dont worry,

i couldnt reach them neither [img]http://www.fordownersclub.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif[/img] i simply cut out the ones i could see and reach from the speedo slot and through the stereo slot,

and once i had ehat i could see and reach with the dremil all cut out i placed the pod surround on top of the dash again,

i lined the pins up with the holes i had cut already, which ment the piece was aligned correctly,

i then pressed down hard on the pod surround which left a mark on the dash in the locations of the other pins,

so i then began to cut holes from the top of the dash through to the bottom,

i knew the hole markings would be correct because i cut the front ones going by fords markings which aligned the piece correctly so the others had to be correct also.

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also as you can see in the picture above, i have used a clear plastic sheet, to cover the windscreen vent and also to cover the windscreen and surrounding dash, because the heat generated from the dremil is enough to melt the plastic on the dash and can cause fragments of melted plastic to fly off in random directions, so i didnt want the windscreen or surrounding dash to end up like a pebble dashed wall [img]http://www.fordownersclub.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif[/img]
also to prevent dust from entering the vents,

before starting the process

[color=#FF0000][u]it is very important that you wear safety glasses and a dust mask when cutting with any power tools in the car[/u][/color]. [img]http://www.fordownersclub.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif[/img]

because it would be terrible not to be able to either complete or see the end results of this fantastic Modification.

I began by cutting out the large centre square, to help get more light in under the dash and be better able to spot the markings,
so without any markings currently visible i began to cut out a large area of the centre dash.

the cutting blade wasnt wide enough to cut through the hole dash section which consists of foam and plastic, so i had to cut away the foam section first, followed by the plastic layer,

once the plastic was cut i could then see the markings made by ford for the cutting of the centre section,

by sitting in the passenger seat and looking up at the dash through the slot from the radio,

then cutting along the lines by reaching in with the dremil through the hole i had cut in the centre. and making it the correct size as marked out by ford.

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Lenny
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Lenny
[size="2"][b][i]went for a cup of tea at this stage guys,

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came back and cut out the plastic section isong the bit in the picture below,
although i have failed to take a picture of the cutting of the plastc i was covering the dremil so as not to splatter hot plastic on my windscreen,
im sure yu guys will understand and forgive me for this minor error in the guide that i have only realised now :o

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also to demonstrate the level of heat, here is a picture of the blade afterwards, with the plastic melted on to it, i used a stanley blade to cut this off and the blade is like new, i must say it took less than 2minutes to cut out the plastic with the dremil a fantastic tool goes like a hot knife through butter.

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using the same bit in the dremil
i then began to cut the holes up through the dash from under-neath the dash, looking through the stereo hole and speedo slot, and i had better light in the area due to the extra hole in the centre of the dash
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I then put the pod surround section on top and pressed down to make a marking on top for the other holes to be drilled out
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Preee
Keep up the good work Lenny , great guide m8 ;)
Lenny
[size=2][i][b]as you drill the slots for the pins, keep offering the pod surround up on the dash and sitting it in the holes

then remove and cut the areas required that need a little more space,

the best thing about the pins is they have a good tolerence when inserted in to the dash so if one of the slots is slightly too big, its no problem you can spread the metal clip wider on the end of the pin and it will grip just as good,
also the pod surround covers all of the area so if you slip and cut the foam its all hidden too. [img]http://www.fordownersclub.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif[/img] [/b][/i][/size]

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[b][i][size=2]as you can see in the pictures below the pod surround is now fitted, i still need to cut the far right slot a little wider and shave a wisker off of the front left to get it snug, i had to stop at 5pm today due to the dark evenings,

i will update again with pictures in day light tomorrow,

and i will continue this guide in the new year with the fitting of a boost gauge and oil pressiure gauge,

in the mean time if any one requires information on fitting any type of gauge to their car you can email me at [/size][/i][/b][email="leonard.woods@live.ie"][b][i][size=2]Click Here [/size][/i][/b][/email]

[b][i][size=2]and i will get back to you with information on installing within 24 hours,

however i will be posting a guide on fitting them on to the end of this thread once i have purchased the gauges [/size][/i][/b]
Lenny
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[b][i][size=2]I Didnt Fully Clip the Pod Section in to the Surround Just yet, encase it is difficult to remove again because i hae yet to fit the gauges,
but once the gauges are fitted the pod will sit snug in the pod surround [img]http://www.fordownersclub.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif[/img] [/size][/i][/b]
Lenny
I Wrappd the face of the ST Pod with some Matt finish Vynal Wrap, but unfortunity i drilled the 52mm holes for the gauges in the wrong locations leaving the original face of the pod usless,

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[size=2][b][i]The next type of Gauges are Smoked Face Gauges. [/i][/b][/size]
[b][i][size=2]the configuration for the smoked is much the same as the regular electronic, the only difference is you don't need to run a cable to the switched light feed because the backlight on the gauge is on all of the time when the gauge is in operation,

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[size=2]The third type of Gauges are the Mechanical ones, [/size]
[size=2]These differ in that for oil pressure you runan oil feed pipe from the sump directly to the rear of the gauge, so if yourconnections are not tight there is a risk of the oil leaking in to yourinterior, but on the up side the mechanical gauges don’t require much wiringand this type is most favoured with Rally and Race cars designed for Circuitracing due to the low weight, low maintenance and simple configuration.[/size][/i][/b]

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[b][i][size=2]However the Visteon Gauges that come fitted to the Focus ST and Focus RS from the production Line,
they are a new Can-Bus type gauge that are fed from the cars ECU and currently not even NASA can draw a diagram of how those babys operate [img]http://www.fordownersclub.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif[/img]

Hope this helps [img]http://www.fordownersclub.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif[/img] [/size][/i][/b]
Lenny
[size=2][b][i]The idea of using the existing face of the ST Pod as a face plate to mount the new gauges in to place, didnt work out as planned, [/i][/b][/size]
[size=2][b][i]so it was back to the drawing board to figure out a new way of fitting the gauges in place, and thanks to leemaxed who told me when fitting his he had encountered the same difficultys and got around it by purchasing two single gauge pods, and fitting them in to the ST pod at an angle to maximise the viewing of the gauges.[/i][/b][/size]

[size=2][b][i]so i purchased two single gauge pods which arrived on friday, i then decided to cut the backs from them to allow maximum clearance and ventilation to the gauges and cables inside the st pod [/i][/b][/size]

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i then sat them in to the ST pod thinking that their would be enough clearance on the dash for the bases of the single pods to sit on the dash and face out through the st pod face.

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unfortunitly the bases on the single pods were too tall to rest on the dash and allow the pod to clip in to place above them, so i got in contact with leemaxed again who informed me that he had gotten the same model of single gauge pods as me, then purchased a longer M5 bolt,

turned the two single pods on their sides, removed the bases from both of them and bolted the singles to each other.
so i done exactly that and it was a brilliant help in positioning them and gave great clearance to the underside of the pod too.

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the next step was to find a way of keeping them in that position within the pod,
their is many ways this could be done by either glue, or silicone, but i had already got the face plat from the original ST pod gauges and no other use for it,

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so i began to experment with it, cutting bits off to see if i could create some sort of support bracket to hold the two single pods in position,
unfortunitly i slacked on taking many pictures of this section in the modification process although i have edited the picture below to help describe the section of the plastic casing i used.

in the image below you will see the image i have coloured in various sections to help explain how i created the bracket to support the gauges in place,

the section with the yellow outline is the shap i cut out and used to supprt the under side of the pod, then the red box section with the X on it, that is the section that i cut out and glued at an L shape to the under side of the first section.

the solid red section i cut away and threw in the bin.

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below is a picture of the end result. from cutting out the bottom section to create a flat plate to support the gauges underneath, and i left a lip on the rear to help grip the rear of the single pods too,

[img]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/Image1557.jpg[/img]

i also drillet a hole in the centre to allow the longer M5 bolt stick through and i plan to fit another M5 washer and nut to the end of it, so as it is 100% tight and secure,

i glued this section to the bottom of the gauge support, then fitted double sided sticky pads to the single pods where they made contact with the panel.

the results can be seen in the following images:

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depending on the gauges fitted in the pod, you may also need to cut out a section of the pod surround to allow the boost pipe fitting to sink down in to the dash, i had to remove a square section but i have failed to take any pictures of this being done,

but once their is enough clearance cut out, the pod will sit snugly in to place in the dash as can be seen in the following image:

[img]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/Image1578.jpg[/img]

the next step of this modification is to fill the space between the two gauges in the front of the pod,
i have purchased some 1.5mm clear perspex from ebay, and i plan to trim it to the required shape then wrap it with some matt black vinyl to blend in with the rest of the dash.

the gauges are not operational yet neither,
i have to purchase the self sealing 1/8NPT adaptor and a oil pressiure sensor T piece, but due to the limits on the ammount of images that can be uploaded per post, i will need to complete the rest of this guide on another post at the end of this thread.
thank you for looking.
Leemaxd
I really enjoyed doing mine, the mess gets everywhere such a good feeling when it all pops into place :)
salsheikh
Leemaxd, pop some pics of your pod on here then ;)

Lenny, hats off to you sir for doing this awesome guide and having the balls to cut open your dash
Lenny
[quote name='Leemaxd' timestamp='1324759920' post='157964']
I really enjoyed doing mine, the mess gets everywhere such a good feeling when it all pops into place :)
[/quote]
Totally agree with you 100% mate,
its so much work cutting it out and you dont know if your right or wrong until you sit the piece in to place,
i was so focused on cutting the holes, that i was on the last one and i didnt even realise it lol

it great though, id cut another one no problem i really enjoyed doing this Modification and thanks for the comments mate, B)

[quote name='salsheikh' timestamp='1324760647' post='157966']
Leemaxd, pop some pics of your pod on here then ;)

Lenny, hats off to you sir for doing this awesome guide and having the balls to cut open your dash
[/quote]

Thanks very much for your kind words and it was leemaxd who informed me that it was all possible so i cant take all of the credit on this one,
Leemaxd was the first i ever saw to have fitted the pod and im the second person to do it on here,
that i am aware of but its 100% worth it.


and it wasnt as big of step in to the wild for me as it must have been for Leemaxd when he started to cut his
atleast i knew if i run in to trouble i could contact someone for help on it. now both of us can help anyone considering this Modification.
Leemaxd
The pics are on here somewhere but here you go.
[IMG]http://i1034.photobucket.com/albums/a421/leemaxd/bc186540.jpg[/IMG]
Lenny
[quote name='Leemaxd' timestamp='1324766078' post='157973']
The pics are on here somewhere but here you go.

[/quote]


Cheers Lee,
what sort of boost is it reading mate and is yours a 1.6TDCi ?

gauges look sweet, i cant wait to buy mine also what pipe do you tap in to for the boost gauge,
is their an electronic box that hooks to a pipe in the engine bay or did you have to run a boost pipe to the rear of the gauge.
Leemaxd
Mines the 1.8 Lenny, I run a boost pipe into the engine bay and tapped into the map sensor tubing.
It peeks at about 1.8 bar on full boost.
MattyS
Looking good! :)
Lenny
[quote name='Leemaxd' timestamp='1324797304' post='157988']
Mines the 1.8 Lenny, I run a boost pipe into the engine bay and tapped into the map sensor tubing.
It peeks at about 1.8 bar on full boost.
[/quote]


Sweet B)

ive fitted all different gauges before, volts, water temp, oil temp and oil preissure,but ive never fitted a boost gauge
so i will be in touch when i get that one mate,

also ive added some more images to the guide,

i got out and cleaned it yesterday removed the centre console, glove box, side panels on the dash, and the panel under the steering coulmn,
piles of dust every where lol gave it a good hoover and two packets of simonez matt dash wipes, took me five hours :lol:
inside and outside the dash so i think ive gotten all of the dust now, i havent pushed the pod down in to the dash yet im waiting to fit the gauges then fit it the once, encase its a struggle to remove again with all the clips it has on it. :D
salsheikh
sweet guys, Lee the pics look good. what gauges are you running.

Lenny, i have to admire your dedication to the job, you certainly have put in some hours on this job. would it be possible to do it using a stanley knife instead of a dremel (purely for less mess purposes?)
Lenny
[quote name='salsheikh' timestamp='1324991044' post='158178']
sweet guys, Lee the pics look good. what gauges are you running.

Lenny, i have to admire your dedication to the job, you certainly have put in some hours on this job. would it be possible to do it using a stanley knife instead of a dremel (purely for less mess purposes?)
[/quote]

Thank you very much for the understanding and apprecieation, ;)

1 hour to cut the Pod rings and remove the electronic gauges,
7 hours to remove clocks, vents and cut out the Dash in the focus,
5 hours to remove panels and clean up the car after cutting
1 hour to write the Guide. B)

end result is timeless though mate, well worth all the effort and i dont see time spent on my car or time writing the guides as time wasted neither,
i love every minute of it and i would do it all again tomorrow.

it would be possible to cut with a stanley blade mate, their are 3 layers to the dash,
the top layer is the rubber leather type coating that we all pollish
then their is 10mm of foam
followed by 2mm of hard plastic,

so you could cut through the foam with a stanley blade, then using a flat screwdriver prise the foam off the plastic layer,

once down to the plastic layer you could drill a series of holes then cut to shape with a hack-saw blade like this [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Silverline-Mini-Hacksaw-Pipe-Cutting-Confined-Spaces-/130498416543?pt=UK_Hand_Tools_Equipment&hash=item1e624fcf9f"]Click Here [/url]
or use a dremil at that stage,
most of the mess with me was caused by the foam so if you cut it away with a knife, then its just the plastic which doesnt cause any dust just pearings.

and if you still dont want to use a dremil, then this tool is ideal for drilling up through the plastic base from inside the dash, [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Right-Angle-90-Degree-Drill-Attachment-Keyless-Chuck-/400256085341?pt=UK_Home_Garden_PowerTools_SM&hash=item5d311f2d5d"]Click Here [/url]

or this one [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Multi-Purpose-Flexible-and-Angled-90-Degree-Magnetic-Drill-Set-Metal-Case-DIY-/260866277332?pt=UK_Air_Tools_and_Compressors&hash=item3cbcd77fd4"]click here[/url]

[img]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/discussions/B2DvOBGkKGrHqMOKisEwPBtPuqgBMPMEKDK_3.jpg[/img][img]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/discussions/KGrHqIOKkQE1p5zCmWBNrCmMGnKQ_12.jpg[/img]
Preee
Very nice work Lenny , wish i had a Diesel now as i'd be fitting some gauges , water temp and volts would not have the same effect as having a boost gauge for me
Lenny
[quote name='Preee' timestamp='1325076702' post='158312']
Very nice work Lenny , wish i had a Diesel now as i'd be fitting some gauges , water temp and volts would not have the same effect as having a boost gauge for me
[/quote]

Thanks Pree
It would work for you though mate,
you still have an option of oil pressiure, oil temperature, water temperature, volts, and air/fuel ratio :)
Preee
[quote name='Lenny' timestamp='1325077700' post='158318']
Thanks Pree
It would work for you though mate,
you still have an option of oil pressiure, oil temperature, water temperature, volts, and air/fuel ratio :)
[/quote]


Very true Lenny

I will see what 2012 brings lol , until then i will admire yours ;)
alkyz89
nice work lenny and another top quality guide... i agree with pree 'wish i had a diesel' lol as i think this look the dogs swingers!!!
i guess you could have an additional rev dial but apart from that i doubt you would get the same effect lol
alkyz89
just a quick one... i like the way you have purchased a dremel after the trouble you had with the rear badge LED lol seems to have helped loads!!
Lenny
[quote name='alkyz89' timestamp='1325440832' post='158935']
nice work lenny and another top quality guide... i agree with pree 'wish i had a diesel' lol as i think this look the dogs swingers!!!
i guess you could have an additional rev dial but apart from that i doubt you would get the same effect lol
[/quote]

[quote name='alkyz89' timestamp='1325441043' post='158936']
just a quick one... i like the way you have purchased a dremel after the trouble you had with the rear badge LED lol seems to have helped loads!!
[/quote]


Hi mate,
thanks very much for the comments :D you could always fit oil temp and oil preissure gauges, or water temp they are very easy to fit aftermarket gauges, i used to own a 1.3N/A Toyota starlet and i didnt have a turbo but i did have five gauges fitted in it lol the only one i havent fitted before is a boost gauge,

and the Dremel was a christmas gift from a good friend who saw the masterpiece i made of the rear badge trying to use a 4mm drill bit perform like a dremel and took pitty on me bought me the dremel for christmas very nice of them and the best tool i have ever used, everyone should buy a dremel its like a hot knife through butter with excellent preecision B)
Lez
very nice work, and quality guide!

Well Done Lenny!
Lenny
[quote name='Lez' timestamp='1325516814' post='159032']
very nice work, and quality guide!

Well Done Lenny!
[/quote]


Cheers Mate!

Plan to purchase the two ford racing gauges both boost and oil preissure, in the coming weeks, so the last post on the guide should be edited by mid febuary depending on delivery times of the gauges,

once this guide is complete i will create a downloadable PDF copy of the guide and add it to the first post,

others can then download and print it, allowing them to refer to it while performing the modification them selves. B)
Lenny
ive gotten the configuration of the ford racing gauges both oil pressiure and boost,
[size="2"]so ive done a more specific diagram to fitting both these perticular gauges,

[img]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/Untitled.png[/img]
[/size]
salsheikh
you are a LEGEND mate.
Lenny
[quote name='salsheikh' timestamp='1325853295' post='159704']
you are a LEGEND mate.
[/quote]

Cheers mate,:D

ive just found out my ford gauges are mechanical, so that means i have to run an oil pipe to the rear of the gauge lol heres hoping i never get any leaks behind the actual gauge, i would have preferred the electronic type where a pressure sensor fits next to the oil filter and sends electronic signal to the gauge in the dash, rather than the oil itself :blink:
Lenny
[img]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/Image1429.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/Image1427.jpg[/img]

Ford Racing Gauges and cables arrive tomorrow, 52mm holesaw and arbor arrives tuesday and this guide will be complete with downloadable PDF file before 1pm wednesday.
alkyz89
tight schedule, you cleary dont mess about haha. looking forward to seeing the end result!!
james132
Can not wait for this lenny! :D
salsheikh
Lenny, any updates on this? I got my gauge pod from ebay for £35 delivered! waiting to see your results before I even think about starting on mine. Also have purchased agenuine Sony DAB stereo so will be fitting that or getting it fitted at some point.
Lenny
[i][b][color=#000000]Hi mate,

I’ve been trying to delay feedback on this one lol i have discovered that the face of the ST pod wont be of use

so if you are doing this modification don’t use the face of the original st pod mate, the angle is too straight for the gauges to fit inside the pod.

so the new plan is to purchase two 52mm single pod holders :[/color]

[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SINGLE-PEDESTAL-POD-SUITS-ALL-KNOWN-52mm-2-GAUGES-/130553322466?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item1e65959be2"][color=#000000]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SINGLE-PEDESTAL-POD-SUITS-ALL-KNOWN-52mm-2-GAUGES-/130553322466?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item1e65959be2[/color][/url]

[color=#000000]stick then to the dash section of the pod with double sided sticky pads,

then fit the hood of the pod over them in place like a roof
[img]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/Image1380.jpg[/img]


this way the gauges will sit at a better angle and allow more of the 52mm gauges to be visible,

then i will need to get a small section of persepcs and cut it to shape to fill the space around the 2 pods,

on the up side though,

i managed to get the gauges all wired up to the interior lights and the ignition feed.

all that is left to do is run a cable from the pod through to the engine for the oil pressure sensor,

fit the oil pressure sensor in place

and also run the boost pipe and fit it in place, but that one has a catch too

because i have a 1.6tdci i dont have a boost feed that i can tap in to,
[img]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/Induction.png[/img]


so i need to tap in to the pipe on the intercooler system, so i need to get an elbow hose made up with a 3mm nipple on the side of it so as i can connect the boost pipe, like the one in the picture below.

[img]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/bespokehose1small.jpg[/img]

its come a long way, and another bit to go before its complete lol

The main thing holding me up at the moment is funds, so the project is on hold until next month,

The shopping list is:

3metre of 6amp cable to run a sensor feed to the oil gauge,

Two 52mm single pod gauge holders,

oil pressure sensor T piece adaptor

Custom built elbow hose with 3mm nipple fitted.

So looking at another £100-£120 to complete mate. ive updated the guide with pictures of how it looks at the momment, ill add some text to it later today. [/color][/b][/i]
salsheikh
Lenny, i used these gauge sunshields:
[url="http://mcgillmotorsports.co.uk/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=563"]http://mcgillmotorsports.co.uk/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=563[/url]

and put some gauges into them and moulded the gauge holder into shapes and made this:

[IMG]http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b193/nogama3/Leon%20Cupra/05032010381.jpg[/IMG]

the sunshields were fit back to front as they were used to hold the gauges in place only. maybe you could use these and attach them to the front of the pod holder so there is enough space for the gauges to fit?
Lenny
[quote name='salsheikh' timestamp='1326917259' post='161966']
Lenny, i used these gauge sunshields:
maybe you could use these and attach them to the front of the pod holder so there is enough space for the gauges to fit?
[/quote]

that looks excellent mate, i love the way you put the shades in side ways so as the gauges point at the driver, sweet B)

thanks for sharing the information on this with me, unfortunitly it wouldnt work on the pod mate, because the internal size of the pod isind deep enough to accept all of the gauge when fitted in horizontal, because the curve at the rear of the pod makes the internal smaller,

so the only option is to do the same as leemaxd has done, and fit the gauges in seperate to the pod housing itself,

so that means fitting the gauges in single pods at a 45 degree angle facing up toward the driver, and the rear of the gauges is practicly on the dash and only the top of the gauge enters the pod area so nothing touches the inside of the pod.
and sit the st pod over that so then it gives the apperance that the gauges are mounted to the pod itself.

and the plus side you also see more of the 52mm gauges doing it his way,

had my way worked out for me, i would only see half the 52mm gauge

here is a picture of leemaxed fitted and i think his gauges are 60mm so the 52mm will display a little more gauge.
they are fitted in single pods that are mounted on the dash inside the pod, and the pod it sitting on top to give the apperance of the gauges being fitted to the pod itself B)

[img]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/bc186540.jpg[/img]


thanks to leemaxd for sharing his information on this,

ive also done some research on the manufacture of a intercooler pipe with the take off to fit the boost gauge, and for the new pipe to be built would cost me around £80 just for the pipe :wacko: and i would need to donate my existing pipe to aid the manufacture process,

so :P that, ive decided to opt for a self sealing adaptor instead and ill drill the induction pip i have on the car, and create my own take off which i can screw the 1/8 NPT connection on to and get an accurate reading on the gauge,
[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Self-Sealing-Steel-Hose-Take-Off-1-8-NPT-Internal-Thread-Roose-Motorsport-/220925464874?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item33702f112a"]http://www.ebay.co.u...=item33702f112a[/url]

so that leaves the shopping list at £70 to complete the gauges lol roll on next month.
salsheikh
good news my friend. :)
Lenny
[quote name='salsheikh' timestamp='1326922551' post='162009']
good news my friend. :)
[/quote]
you got a good deal on your ST pod mate,
when are you planning to fit it ?
salsheikh
I'm waiting for you to finish yours before i decide on what to do with mine. might have to have a closer look at leemaxd's gauge pod...
Lenny
[quote name='salsheikh' timestamp='1326980245' post='162114']
I'm waiting for you to finish yours before i decide on what to do with mine. might have to have a closer look at leemaxd's gauge pod...
[/quote]

i should have the final pieces to finish this on the 7th or 8th Febuary mate,
alkyz89
i might get the st pod, strip out the gauges and custom fit an aftermarket parrot system to enable bluetooth haha
Bigdaddycain
What a brilliant thread! Massive round of applause to all concerned ! How brave are you fella's taking a dremel to your 10 reg motors!

My focus is the titanium spec, so, there is a flip up panel with a shallowish cubby below for things like sunglasses, phone chargers etc, where the ST dial pod would sit...

I bought a dial pod last year, a 3 dial affair.... My thinking was to keep the flip up panel, and bond and smooth the pod on top of the panel, so i'd have ST type gauges, PLUS the convenience of the flip up panel and cubby below (which is pretty handy i must admit) But having read this thread, and eyeing things up, my original idea wouldn't have worked out too well as the top of the pod would sit too high upon the panel, as the gauges couldn't really have "sunk" like on the ST....

I'll now (thanks to you guys) adapt an ST pod shell, to house 2 plasma dial gauges

( I've fitted 2 gauges plus a plasma clock to my ford freda,see link below)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnIwvsbaxdc&feature=g-upl&context=G291bb23AUAAAAAAALAA

The dials have a nifty "boot up" sequence, and only cost about £18 each, and work pretty well... Hopefully i'll go for a volt gauge, and a boost gauge on my 2.0 TDCI focus... Like Lenny, the trick will be hardwiring in the boost gauge for an accurate reading.

I'll start gathering a few bits and bobs in the meantime, and keep a close eye on this thread for updates... Well done chaps! You're an inspiration! B)
Lenny
[quote name='Bigdaddycain' timestamp='1328876551' post='165862']
What a brilliant thread! Massive round of applause to all concerned ! How brave are you fella's taking a dremel to your 10 reg motors!

I'll start gathering a few bits and bobs in the meantime, and keep a close eye on this thread for updates... Well done chaps! You're an inspiration! B)
[/quote]

Thanks mate
good to have you as a member of the forum, you have done some fantastic modifications yourself ;)
Bigdaddycain
Cheers bud! I'm getting there mate... I don't hink i have the patience to do the guides on here though, much as i'd like to help people out, i just KNOW i'd forget to take pictures as i go along, i get far too involved in what i'm doing to stop for a cig/cuppa/snap/wee! :huh:


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