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Lenny
[quote name='Bigdaddycain' timestamp='1329445021' post='167179']
Cheers bud! I'm getting there mate... I don't hink i have the patience to do the guides on here though, much as i'd like to help people out, i just KNOW i'd forget to take pictures as i go along, i get far too involved in what i'm doing to stop for a cig/cuppa/snap/wee! :huh:
[/quote]

No problem mate,
chances are that one of us will copy you on the mods anyway as you have some great ideas and if its me,
im a non smoker so where you would be having a smoke ill be taking some pictures :D
jane_b
A litle help over here guyss please write me the name of the pop up tray so i can search it becouse i spend hours searching last night or some link maybe ebay will be wheryy helpfull! plaese and thank you :D
james132
Any updates Lenny?
Lenny
[quote name='james132' timestamp='1330161174' post='168737']
Any updates Lenny?
[/quote]
not yet mate, sorry to say it will be around 14th March
i have to purchase
two gauge holders,
oil temp T piece,
electrical cable for oil sensor,
self sealing 1/6NPT adaptor for boost pipe,

should be able to complete it then mate. i was supposed to finish the gauges this month but i got the focus back on the road instead and decided to finish them next month instead, aswell as fitting a set of DRL's like pree's B)
Bigdaddycain
[quote name='Lenny' timestamp='1329461550' post='167187']
No problem mate,
chances are that one of us will copy you on the mods anyway as you have some great ideas and if its me,
im a non smoker so where you would be having a smoke ill be taking some pictures :D
[/quote]

Cheers Lenny, piccy taking is easier on the old lungs too mate... But i'm one of those "think and a smoke" types... :ph34r:
Stoney871
A think, a smoke and a wet.
Things always clearer after.
Bigdaddycain
A man after my own heart ;) Great minds n' all that.... B)
Stoney871
:D
Lenny
[quote name='james132' timestamp='1330161174' post='168737']
Any updates Lenny?
[/quote]

its been a long time coming but im Very Happy to say,

this guide has been updated on page 1 of this thread and i have fitted the gauges in the pod today,

they are wired up and illuminating aswell as an ignition feed going to the oil pressiure gauge,
however i still require some fittings for the engine compartment to allow both gauges to function, i hope to have these purchased by thursday of next week and fitted in the coming weeks along with a set of DRL's which also require some routing through the firewall so i will route all through at the one time.


[img]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/Image1575.jpg[/img]
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took it out for a run earlier, purposly drove on a cobble street road to test for any jumping in the pod or rattles, and im very proud to say not a budge or rattle from anything. very happy with the outcome.
Lenny
ill upload some night pictures later. ;)
salsheikh
Lenny, that looks fantastic
hats off to you for having th balls to do this :D
where did you get those gauges from, they look sweet!
Lenny
As promised here are some night pictures :

[img]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/Image1590.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/Image1591.jpg[/img]
Lenny
[quote name='salsheikh' timestamp='1330887483' post='170576']
Lenny, that looks fantastic
hats off to you for having th balls to do this :D
where did you get those gauges from, they look sweet!
[/quote]

thanks mate,
i bought the gauges from simon at woodford motorsport on ebay
[url="http://stores.ebay.co.uk/WOODFORD-GARAGE-MOTORSPORT/_i.html?_nkw=ford+racing+gauge+&submit=Search&_sid=117815677"]http://stores.ebay.c...&_sid=117815677[/url]

their a little pricey but worth every penny in my eyes and their Ford so they go very well in the dash.
Bigdaddycain
What an absolute cracking result! B) B) B) And it all looks factory! Well done Lenny!
Lenny
[quote name='Bigdaddycain' timestamp='1330891929' post='170595']
What an absolute cracking result! B) B) B) And it all looks factory! Well done Lenny!
[/quote]

Thanks very much for the comments Ste im really proud of the results.
ive added to the guide on page 1 of this, to show how i fitted them in to place.
Stoney871
Looked horribly messy when in progress but well worth the effort.
Good result there.
Lenny
[quote name='Stoney871' timestamp='1330911492' post='170635']
Looked horribly messy when in progress but well worth the effort.
Good result there.
[/quote]

Thanks mate,
i didnt expect it to turn out as it has done but im very glad it did, no errors except for a little scuff on the rear side of the dash but i can patch it with some paint or somthing, could have been alot worse lol
Leemaxd
Really looks the part mate, well done.
Preee
Very nice work Lenny , a top tropper for cutting that dash out and fitting , a top guide.

You and Leemaxd have a unique dashboard. very well done and thank you for a top guide.
Lenny
[quote name='Leemaxd' timestamp='1330962918' post='170723']
Really looks the part mate, well done.
[/quote]
Thanks Lee,
couldnt have done it without your help along the way mate,
and thanks for informing us that this was possible to fit the st pod in to the standard focus dash.

[quote name='Preee' timestamp='1330964965' post='170735']
Very nice work Lenny , a top tropper for cutting that dash out and fitting , a top guide.

You and Leemaxd have a unique dashboard. very well done and thank you for a top guide.
[/quote]

Thanks Pree,
hopfully myself and Leemaxd wont be the only ones to ever complete this modification,
i hope that someone finds this guide of use and takes on to do this modification them selves, and perhaps add another few inages on here. their is a bit of work envolved but it is 100% rewarding in the end, i keep going out to look at mine, and i cant wait to get them up and running.

even if your model doesnt have a turbo, the ST pod can be fitted and the front face wrapped in matt vynil leaving a flat surface to fit a parrot bluetooth system or a scan gauge OBD reader, their are various options that can be done, not just the round gauges.

[img]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/Image1428.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/scangauge.jpg[/img]

Here is a link to the scan gauge kit on ebay apparently the backlight on the scan gauge display can be changed to various colours to blend in with the interior lights: [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ScanGauge-II-Fuel-Trip-Computer-latest-firmware-4-06-/250998547848?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3a70ade588"]http://www.ebay.co.u...=item3a70ade588[/url]

[img]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/Image1427.jpg[/img] above is another picture of the empty pod to give others an idea of the internal space.
Lenny
Further Update,

since the 1.6TDCi engine doesnt have a boost pipe that we can add a T piece and tap in to it for a boost gauge reading,
i logged on to roose motorsport and purchased a 1/8NPT self sealing adaptor,
[url="http://roosemotorsport.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=23&products_id=526"]http://roosemotorspo...products_id=526[/url]

its worth every penny, comes supplied with a cutter and fully illustrated instructions, also very light weight and saved me over £50 by not needing to purchase a custom built hose with a 1/8NPT take off.

here's how i fitted it in place:

[img]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/Image1602.jpg[/img]

Below is a picture of what comes supplied in the kit,

[img]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/Image1599.jpg[/img]
The item in the image below, is the cutter, this part goes on the inside of the hose and using a rubber mallet, hit the outside corresponding area of the hose, once and the cutter will create the hole needed to fit the adaptor.

[img]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/Image1603.jpg[/img]
As you can see from the slight buckle in the image below, i kit it with a steel hammer because i didnt have a rubber mallet lol but the results are the same on this ocasion for me, but i recommend following the instructions word for word in full.

[img]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/Image1610.jpg[/img]

[img]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/SelfSealKitStep10.jpg[/img]


[img]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/SelfSealKitStep11.jpg[/img]

[img]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/SelfSealKitStep13.jpg[/img]

[img]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/SelfSealKitStep14.jpg[/img]
Lenny
The next step is to remove and discard of the cutter,
then insert the threaded adaptor in to place,
the instructions state that the rubber washer is not required if fitting to a rubber hose, apparently the rubber washer is used when fitting to hard plastic, but i thought better to fit it than throw it away, so i stuck it on their too,
on the outside of the unit as it should be fitted in accordance with the instructions.

[img]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/SelfSealKitStep15.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/SelfSealKitStep17.jpg[/img]

[img]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/SelfSealKitStep18.jpg[/img]

[img]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/SelfSealKitStep19.jpg[/img]
Using an adjustable spanner gently tighten the nut until you feel that it is secure, take care not to over tighten because this could weaken the hose and cause the fitting to tear the hose or leak.
[img]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/SelfSealKitStep20.jpg[/img]

[img]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/SelfSealKitStep22.jpg[/img]



[img]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/SelfSealKitStep21.jpg[/img]

End result is an air tight seal on the siide of the pipe,
unfortunitly darkness has gotten the better of me today, but i will ne back at it in the morning to run the boost pope through the firewall behind the glove box, along the side panel and in to the fitting.
Preee
Can't wait for the Youtubeeeeeee :)
Lenny
i have re-fitted the pipe to the engine, but prior to refitting i wraped the self sealing adaptor with some electrical tape to prevent any dirt from entering the pipe until i fit the pipe from the gauge to the fitting.

[img]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/SelfSealKitStep2-1.jpg[/img]

[img]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/SelfSealKitStep3-1.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/Image1636_1.jpg[/img]
salsheikh
[quote name='Lenny' timestamp='1330889046' post='170584']
thanks mate,
i bought the gauges from simon at woodford motorsport on ebay
[url="http://stores.ebay.co.uk/WOODFORD-GARAGE-MOTORSPORT/_i.html?_nkw=ford+racing+gauge+&submit=Search&_sid=117815677"]http://stores.ebay.c...&_sid=117815677[/url]

their a little pricey but worth every penny in my eyes and their Ford so they go very well in the dash.
[/quote]

flippin ell, how much! you feeling a bit flush??? they do look sweet though and they look great at night, remember to keep your eyes on the road and not the gauges!
Lenny
[quote name='Preee' timestamp='1331325098' post='171695']
Can't wait for the Youtubeeeeeee :)
[/quote]
lol ill see what i can doo mate,
defo going to give it full throttle when the pipe is in,
im very interested to see what PSi the gauge will display :D
Stoney871
Lenny, you are indeed the man.
Oh to have all that spare time and ingenuity to do all the work you have.
if i was to start cutting the dash and making holes in pipes the wife would go postal beyond belief.
You've either a very understanding wife or lock her in the cupboard while you attack the car.
Lenny
[quote name='salsheikh' timestamp='1331325488' post='171699']
flippin ell, how much! you feeling a bit flush??? they do look sweet though and they look great at night, remember to keep your eyes on the road and not the gauges!
[/quote]

I know mate, the ford gauge's are pricey but their a perfect match,
had i purchased anything different i would always tell my self ''yeah their nice but they could be ford branded ones'' lol
so i took the plunge and bought the ford ones after weeks of debate lol
Stoney871
Still the big question is - is your wife a very understanding person? :wub: or do i need to start investigating reports that you have taken up laying patios in the middle of the night? <_< ;) :P :D :lol:
Lenny
[quote name='Stoney871' timestamp='1331329017' post='171725']
Still the big question is - is your wife a very understanding person? :wub: or do i need to start investigating reports that you have taken up laying patios in the middle of the night? <_< ;) :P :D :lol:
[/quote]

lol
i dont drink or smoke and i did do a few jobs around the house before the packages come in the door lol,
the best advise though is to get them deliverd to your mates house, he can remove all the invoices and send you the goods, so you can then forge your own paypal reciept and produce it to the missus.

not saying that she will be happy with that either, but while shes giving out to me, i can think ''wow imagie how mad she would be if she knew how much they really cost me'' lmao
Stoney871
I hear that. :P
If the wife knew how much i really pay for most of the bits for my car she'd have an real meltdown.
She's a Belfast girl so you can imagine how angry she can get... :wacko:
I am very considerate in bed though (as in i get out to fart) :o :P
Lenny
[quote name='Stoney871' timestamp='1331325952' post='171703']
Lenny, you are indeed the man.
Oh to have all that spare time and ingenuity to do all the work you have.
if i was to start cutting the dash and making holes in pipes the wife would go postal beyond belief.
You've either a very understanding wife or lock her in the cupboard while you attack the car.
[/quote]

lol cheers clive, i was unemployed for 7months when i done most of the guides though, so i was happy to have something to keep me busy and killed alot of time doing the guides for you guys.

i leave her with the two kids, and stick on the headphones lol
she sometimes screams at me '' i used to like ford focus till you bought one and started moding it'' lol

or ''you spend more time on the car than you do one me these days'' :rolleyes:

and your a true gentle man ''getting out to fart'' lol
my mothor is a belfast woman too, so i know too well what you mean mate. :unsure:
Stoney871
[quote name='Lenny' timestamp='1331330995' post='171747']
my mothor is a belfast woman too, so i know too well what you mean mate. :unsure:
[/quote]

They are a force to behold when up to full steam and no mistake. :unsure:
I thought i could be fierce when provoked. :blink:
My tongue has more teeth marks than are safely advisable. :P
But i do love my little hellcat so. :wub:
Lenny
Finally got the boost pipe fitted and the boost gauge is now fully functional, maximum reading i can get from it is 20 PSi
here is how i done it,

first i removed the glove box to gain access to the firewall and the rubber grommet that leads in to the engine bay.

[img]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/Image1644.jpg[/img]
Once this has been removed i opened the bonnet and pulled ot the rubber grommet towards the engine compartment, it has electrical tape wrapped around either end so i took this off to allow me to fish the boost pipe and oil sensor feed through the grommet, then taped it up as was when im finished.

[img]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/Image1640.jpg[/img]
remove the black tape from either side of the grommet, then push the boost pipe through the hole, once it has reached the other side, feed it through gently ensuring the pipe doesnt kink, also tape the sensor cable to the boost pipe and pull it through too, this will make it very easy because the boost pipe is more rigid than the electrical cable.

[img]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/Image1642.jpg[/img]

[img]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/Image1643.jpg[/img]

Once the cables have been completly brought through the grommet, you can re-seal the gromment on both sides using electrical tape, as it was prior to removal but with new tape.

[img]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/Image1649.jpg[/img]

[img]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/Image1651.jpg[/img]
Lenny
I then rolled up the sensor cable and sat it in the battery box until i get the parts for the oil sensor fitted,
i taped the boost pipe in black to better blend in with the engine bay, and run the pipe under the battery box and air filter box, along the front of the chassie and in to the pipe,
using teflon tape on all the fittings for an air tight seal.

[img]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/Image1653.jpg[/img]

[img]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/Image1654.jpg[/img]
Preee
Good work Lenny , you will be pulling out that grommet next week when the DRL's arrive :)
Lenny
[quote name='Preee' timestamp='1331407836' post='171916']
Good work Lenny , you will be pulling out that grommet next week when the DRL's arrive :)
[/quote]

thanks pree, i was just thinking the same thing today when i was tapeing it up lol
ill be here again the same time next saturday morning fitting the DRL's lol
Lenny
[color=#000000]Up[size=3]date on this:
I got to work yesterday cutting out the piece of Perspex to fill the gap between the two gauges, and wrapped it in matt black vinyl
ill add some pictures of it fitted to the pod later today[/size]

[size=3]also last Saturday I fitted a set of DRL's to the front of the car, their fantastic and I’m very happy with them,
but the problem I have is:
when I wired in the gauges i spliced their backlight's in to the loom of the interior lights, which was fine when i used to drive around with my parking lights on all of the time, but since fitting the drl's I don’t need to switch on my lights anymore,[/size]

[size=3]so my theory is,
to connect the backlights of the gauges to one of those DRL controllers from eBay:[/size][/color]
[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/230757612372?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%3A80%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dp4712.m570.l1313%26_nkw%3D230757612372%26_sacat%3DSee-All-Categories%26_fvi%3D1&_rdc=1"][color=#000000]http://www.ebay.co.u..._fvi%3D1&_rdc=1[/color][/url]

[color=#000000][size=3]then connect the controller to the ignition feed and connect the sensor cable from the purchased DRL controller to the interior light feed,[/size]

[size=3]so the results would be the gauges would come on at full illumination when the ignition is on,
and then when the interior lights are switched on,
the gauges would dim along with the Speedo gauge.

this may help others.[/size][/color]
Preee
Lenny do they need to be lit up during the day?
Lenny
[quote name='Preee' timestamp='1332169024' post='173375']
Lenny do they need to be lit up during the day?
[/quote]

well i can see the needle and stuff but im just used to seeing them illuminated mate
and the little pod puts a shadow over them,
ill give it a week and see how i get used to it,

do you reckon the drl dimmer idea would work though ?
salsheikh
Lenny, you got this guide in a PDF?
Lenny
[quote name='salsheikh' timestamp='1341560950' post='191503']
Lenny, you got this guide in a PDF?
[/quote]

not yet mate,
ill start at 7pm this evening and ill group it all togeater in one PDF then upload it on the forum by 11pm and ill PM you a link to inform you that is online.
ive been meaning to get to it for ages but ill have the time to do it this evening.
salsheikh
cheers matey. if i get time i am gonna try and atleast cut the dash. gonna try and do the bonnet vents tomorrow so wish me luck! Wife's going to her moms for the weekend so thought i'd get busy. promised the boys i'd take them to watch spiderman if they behave and let me work on the car.
Lenny
[quote name='salsheikh' timestamp='1341576346' post='191557']
cheers matey. if i get time i am gonna try and atleast cut the dash. gonna try and do the bonnet vents tomorrow so wish me luck! Wife's going to her moms for the weekend so thought i'd get busy. promised the boys i'd take them to watch spiderman if they behave and let me work on the car.
[/quote]

thoughts are with you mate,
you may wish to do the bonnet first because the cutting of the dash took me 8 hours to complete using the dremil and measuring twice.
ive started the PDF by copying all of the content mate but its currently at 107 pages so it needs alot of editing to bring it down to a more printer friendly size,
[url="http://www.focusowners-social.com/forum/posting.php?mode=smilies&f=38#"][img]http://www.focusowners-social.com/forum/images/smilies/PM_smiley.gif[/img][/url]
ill email you the images of the modification and the guide in a word doccument format so you can then print the sectios you require for yourself mate,
ill edit the guide on PDF in the coming weeks and upload it to the first page of this thread for all interested to download once i have reduiced the pages and correctly worded the content
PantherPL
Hey,
my name is Arthur. I'm from Poland.

I found your description of the installation of dashpod of the Focus ST. I wanted to ask you - is it possible to install the original ST dashpod to Focus 1.8 TDCI with original electrical harness? I found the wiring diagrams in which it is written that the oil temp, turbo work by installing the HS-CAN.

Sorry for my English.

Greetings from Poland
Lenny
[quote name='PantherPL' timestamp='1355830527' post='221830']
Hey,
my name is Arthur. I'm from Poland.

I found your description of the installation of dashpod of the Focus ST. I wanted to ask you - is it possible to install the original ST dashpod to Focus 1.8 TDCI with original electrical harness? I found the wiring diagrams in which it is written that the oil temp, turbo work by installing the HS-CAN.

Sorry for my English.

Greetings from Poland
[/quote][quote name='PantherPL' timestamp='1355830527' post='221830']
Hey,
my name is Arthur. I'm from Poland.

I found your description of the installation of dashpod of the Focus ST. I wanted to ask you - is it possible to install the original ST dashpod to Focus 1.8 TDCI with original electrical harness? I found the wiring diagrams in which it is written that the oil temp, turbo work by installing the HS-CAN.

Sorry for my English.

Greetings from Poland
[/quote]
Hi Arthur,
You are very welcome to the forum.
The Focus ST pod and pod surround can be fitted to any focus from 2005-2010 yes.
But im not aware of the HS-CAN loom available or what is required to fully function.

But an aftermarket boost gauge is required for diesel models due to the diesel boost levels being higher than petrol models
So the ST boost gauge would ring off the scale in 3rd gear my 1.6TDCi peaks at 22Psi boost

Im interested to learn more information regarding the HS-CAN and function of stock gauge in non st models.

The closest gauge i could find were ford Racing gauges from ford in america.
ajt

Been on the sick since monday and was getting bored yesterday and stumbled across this guide, and may I say to Lenny, thankyou and superb. 

 

Ten minutes later was on ebay and won this

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ford-focus-st-2-3-2006-10-top-dash-turbo-gauge-panel-off-08-model-/111042528525?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT&nma=true&si=E5vXcdojOt9zAKigPoIS7L8MkfA%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

 

There was less than two minutes to go, so was obviously meant to be. My problem is I don't think it has the actual tray with it. Can anybody advise as to a part number or "official" name for the tray? I will obviously need to source one before I start cutting my dash.

 

I will also be trying to wire it into tha can bus. Does anybody have any clear shots of the supplied PCB, so I can read what is written on th ICs, and any shots of the connector and the area it connects to the PCB?

gforce

I had that in my watched items but didn't bother bidding! Says in the listing though that it 'comes with panel' so I assumed that was everything needed. Didn't contact the seller to clarify though as I was pretty sure I wasn't gonna bid on it. Have you asked him what 'panel' he's referring to?

 

Sal on here had a complete unit with dash panel for sale in the Buy & Sell section a while back. Not sure if it's still available, but he may be able to supply you with the panel if you do indeed need it.

ajt

He hasn't posted yet, and I read the description as including panel to mean the tray, but then thought does he mean the surround only? I didn't want to contact seller and ask as I have already paid and he could turn around and say "Oh no, tray not included, but you can have it for £50 !"

 

If it turns up without the tray then I will contact the seller and say the listing was misleading, the picture shows the gauges and pod, and his listing states panell included. Which I take to mean a panel not shown in the image. Fingers crossed.

ajt

@gforce, can I ask why you didn't bid, did you spot something that I didn't? (and you just reminded me I offered to do a favour for Sal,oops).



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