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Lenny
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Think I might have a go at this mod. Seems simple and effective

Lenny, any chance of a video of that working mate?
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sorry to say; a video or image upload from me is not possible until november/december mate.m
y laptop broke after 3,900 posts lol so im using an argos special offer 7" CNM android tablet to log on here and email etc.
it hasent got bluetooth or anything so i cant send video to it for upload.
i really should purchase a netbook but im to busy spending on the focus lol dont want to waste some modification money on one.
Haz93
Haha now that's devotion :P
No worries mate, hope you get your PC sorted. Mine broke over a year ago and still not needed to buy a new one.
Rh1no
Worryingly I've just noticed my fog light has filled with water :/
Brigante
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Worryingly I've just noticed my fog light has filled with water :/
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Funny you say that mate, when I took my red fog unit out it had water in too :wacko:
Rh1no
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Funny you say that mate, when I took my red fog unit out it had water in too :wacko:
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How do you remove the lights? Ours will probably be similar?
Brigante
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How do you remove the lights? Ours will probably be similar?
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Easy mate just get on your knees, stick your arm under your bumper around the back of the light unit n feel for this tab

[IMG]http://i1256.photobucket.com/albums/ii487/therealbrigante/2012-08-30164135-1.jpg[/IMG]

Give it a squeeze n push the light unit out as you do. Simple ;)
Brigante
Sorry mate just realized the tabs are different on the 2.5 unit but still works the same, there's a tab either side of the unit which you will still be able to feel, squeeze em both in toward the middle of the unit n push it out ;)
Rh1no
Thanks mate will give it a go in the morning pal :)
Brigante
Sound mate. You should be easily able to go by feel from sticking your arm underneath, it's all I do. If you really have to just put something on the ground n get on your back under the car to stick your head under lol like when I wired the second reverse light.
Rh1no
Spot on mate, sorted :)
Brigante
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Spot on mate, sorted :)
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Nice one mate ;)

You just popped it out n poured the water out?
Rh1no
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Nice one mate ;)

You just popped it out n poured the water out?
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Pretty much mate yea, was less than pleasant! I want this offside clear foglight:

[img]http://www.teamtorquesteer.co.uk/user/08%20LHD%20Rev1.jpg[/img]
Brigante
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Pretty much mate yea, was less than pleasant! I want this offside clear foglight:

[img]http://www.teamtorquesteer.co.uk/user/08%20LHD%20Rev1.jpg[/img]
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Lol why weren't it pleasant mate? How much water was in it?

Just get the 20quid none genuine ford unit I linked, it looks exactly the same so once it's in you'd never know. Also, if you ever do decide to do the second reverse light (cause it's really a pish easy n well worth mod) you will have to cut a hole in the markings on the back anyway so no point paying extra for the genuine one.

Then with the 10quid you saved, get this red cree fog bulb

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/120925682137?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
Blue4life64

Mk2.5 version

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-FOCUS-MK2-3-EURO-STYLE-LEFT-HAND-DRIVE-CLEAR-REAR-BUMPER-FOG-LIGHT-ST2-3-RS-/270959742090?_trksid=m444&_trkparms=algo%3DCRX%26its%3DI%252BC%252BS%26itu%3DSI%252BUA%252BLM%252BLA%26otn%3D4%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D1534001585581861744&_qi=RTM1053524

ive just received mine today but is the new one darker than the original one ? not sure if mine is faulty ? could anyone show me some pics of theres ?

 

cheers

Lenny

ive just received mine today but is the new one darker than the original one ? not sure if mine is faulty ? could anyone show me some pics of theres ?
 
cheers

See page 1 of this guide for mine mate,
Their are replicas from china but work the same.
Blue4life64

Here is pic of the two together

 

and showing that new one is darker ?

 

not sure but looks really odd

 

Lenny does yours look like this ?

 

cheers

Mr_Spock

After reading this tread, I began to dislike the unclean look of one red and one white lights on my car. I did not go all the way with reverse lights on both sides. Just exchanged the red one with a reverse light and equipped it with a red Cree. Looks better end works fine:

 

IMG_8746web.jpg

 

IMG_8749web.jpg

Stoney871
Totally agree, much more even at the back now.
Lenny

After reading this tread, I began to dislike the unclean look of one red and one white lights on my car. I did not go all the way with reverse lights on both sides. Just exchanged the red one with a reverse light and equipped it with a red Cree. Looks better end works fine:
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Looks much better mate,
Keep hold of your red unit, you may wish to fit a dual function unit in the future.
Lenny
[quote name="Blue4life64" post="249718" timestamp="1365237741"]Here is pic of the two together
 
and showing that new one is darker ?
 
not sure but looks really odd
 
Lenny does yours look like this ?
 
cheers [url=http://www.fordownersclub.com/forums/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=6338]mail.jpg[/url][/quote]

Here is an image of mine mate,
I purchased from european-parts I think, been a while since purchase.
They all function the same though.

Mr_Spock

Looks much better mate,
Keep hold of your red unit, you may wish to fit a dual function unit in the future.

 I sure will, it would be nice with a double Cree reverse light.

Brigante

 I sure will, it would be nice with a double Cree reverse light.

do it mate

 

its surprisingly easy and relatively cheap at around 70quid including the cost of the clear unit which you've already got

 

the results are immense

Mr_Spock

Thanks for the encouragement mates, I have put it on my "to do list" - will provide pics when it's done :)

vince_13

quick question

 

i fitted my new lens, now im thinking of creating the dual reverse mod, ive got the second bulb holder and will use the original mounting support from my original light and glue it on

 

but how is best to wire to the new bulb holder? ive been looking to find some oem female connectors that will fit in, and get some suitable crimps to provide insulation but cant find anything

 

any advice?

Stoney871
Probably your best bet is to head to a local breakers with wire cutters in hand and see if you can find a donor car with either the reverse or fog light looms intact then cut off a good 6 inches of wire with the connector to give you enough tail to work with.
Any Focus from 2008-2010 will have the same connector on fog side and reverse.
1stghia

Finally got around to doing this mod :D cree's not in yet but ....

 

http://www.fordownersclub.com/forums/topic/54137-slower-than-the-slow-focus-mk2-build-d/?p=345095

 

sorry couldn't find how to add photo from build thread to here.

 

Many Thanks to Lenny for his guide, and all of you who have contributed. :D

 

 

troy45

Found this topic really useful in getting this done on my ST a while ago now - did do a version 1 before I saw this which used bulbs and holders out of another make of car as I hadn't thought there was room to fit 2 standard bulbs into the lamps. Problem with these was they were a pretty rare fitment and there were no CREE or decent LED's available to upgrade the bulbs.

 

So version 2 followed most of the guide on here, managed to get a damaged lamp off a Focus I spotted near to home - got the owner a new one at discount price and fitted it in exchange and got standard fog lamp off a car that had upgraded to clear version. Main difference after that was plastic welding the new holder on and being able to get the matching male and female wiring plugs so I could plug everything into the standard loom instead of having to splice wires etc.

 

Found the wiring parts at RS Components - they're called Sicma 2-way connectors, or Sicma3.

 

2-way male housing RS part no. 673-7777

 

2-way female 673-7755

 

then you need suitable pins

 

male sicma3 pin 1.5mm 673-7868

 

female sicma3 pin 1.5mm 673-7852

 

Had to buy 100 of the male pins so got tons spare just don't know where.

 

Worked a treat once all done and fitted with the CREE bulbs, the place I get all my ST jobs done at were really impressed.

 

Tried posting links for these but the computer said no :(

Lenny
Spotted a reverse/fog light loom plug and socket for the mk2.5 focus 2008-2011 on ebay today,
Heres the link if anyones in search of one at present:
http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/321425812391?nav=SEARCH
vince_13
Thanks lenny been searching for a holder for months

FYI theres still 1 left :)
Lenny

Thanks lenny been searching for a holder for months
FYI theres still 1 left :)

glad i was able to further assist ,
troy45

If people are struggling to get hold of the holders (pun not intended) it might be worth putting some requests out to people who swapped from red to clear rear foglights etc? that's how I got 1 of my spares, luckily foc but was prepared to pay if needed.

 

That way you'll also have the second stub needed to graft on to turn a lamp into dual fitment :)

 

On second thoughts I must have ended up with more holders than I needed, need to check my spares  :wacko:

Lenny

If people are struggling to get hold of the holders (pun not intended) it might be worth putting some requests out to people who swapped from red to clear rear foglights etc? that's how I got 1 of my spares, luckily foc but was prepared to pay if needed.
That way you'll also have the second stub needed to graft on to turn a lamp into dual fitment :)
On second thoughts I must have ended up with more holders than I needed, need to check my spares  :wacko:

Thanks for the info mate but the bulb holder comes supplied with the clear len housing when purchased,
That part is generally not a problem.
However the part people find difficult to get hold of is: the moulded loom plug with some cable attached.
It plugs in to the bulb socket as saw attached to the roll of cable in image below:

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troy45

I know the plug you mean. I put some details on part numbers to order them from RS plus pins etc in an earlier post, did try to add links but every time I get stuck at the dialogue box and can't get back to my reply :(

 

Got a few spare plugs pre-wired available if they're that rare.

vince_13
Ive been searching for a while and my next step would of been to remove the connector from my car and go into ford but whether they would have them I doubt it

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Lenny

I know the plug you mean. I put some details on part numbers to order them from RS plus pins etc in an earlier post, did try to add links but every time I get stuck at the dialogue box and can't get back to my reply :(
 
Got a few spare plugs pre-wired available if they're that rare.

if you can make them with say 2 metres of loom attached im sure you would make a nice little business selling them through this guide,
Soldering and heat shrinking is somthing i could never manage to do, id be happy to pay for a moulded plug with sufficent loom would make the job alot easier only having to splice once inside the boot.
If you have the time and funds to invest id make up 3-5 of them, surly worth 15 pounds each inc. Labour
Dave at AutoStar electronics linked on first page of this thread can supply the required cable, bought in bulk would be cheaper and using your focus as a template to cut the loom to the correct length leaving additional 3-4 inches excess for splicing.
Lenny

Ive been searching for a while and my next step would of been to remove the connector from my car and go into ford but whether they would have them I doubt it
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ford wouldnt have it mate, they would supply the full loom only.
vince_13

ford wouldnt have it mate, they would supply the full loom only.

Sounds about right for ford
Lenny

Sounds about right for ford

Computer says No..
Thats why i obtained my own copy of ford MicroCat software,
"Do you see what i see" :lol:
Its the exact software they use, enabling us to browse parts then go in with the part numbers and request the part,
No more hassle trying to explain part and why i want it, just order part number FINISxxxxxxx thank you

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troy45

While the ones I've got do have some wire on them it's only short sections so I would have to splice and heatshrink extra cable onto them.

 

It'd take me a bit of time to get under my car to try and measure the wiring I put in - at the time I did it I had access to a pit which made it a lot easier and from memory I was able to clip across the rear bumper above the diffuser where there were already some un-used moulded tabs which I suspect would be for models with parking aids and I connected mine to the plugs already under the car rather than going up into the boot. Also not sure if the routing would then be the same for other models of Focus. Course the answer to that would be adding on another 6 inches or so of cable. 

 

If you were to buy the raw connectors and pins you could make up leads without having to do any soldering at all - for the second boot light mod I was able to buy the bulb holder from Ford and when it came you got the plastic holder plus the 2 un-terminated pins to make up the connector rather than it having pre-fitted cables. Ford must have the ability to order spare connectors in the event of them getting damaged but how they do this might be outside of the microcat ordering process.

 

Honestly don't know when I'll get the time to jack the car up and rummage around under there, with me having plundered info off here for a few of my mods I'd be happy to provide some of the connectors foc if people wanted to add their own cabling onto them.

 

 

Stoney871
You'll be able to get the bulb holders from Ford, the tricky bit is always the plug that connects the loom to the holder.
troy45

You can get the equivalent connector plugs from RS ;)

Lenny

You can get the equivalent connector plugs from RS ;)


+1 cut out the ford dealer middle man and possibly better quality from RS (Radionics)
Flocky
I've just ordered all the pieces for this mod including the connectors suggested by troy45 i will be attempting this next weekend fingers crossed it goes well, plus the drl's are on order.
troy45

Nice one :)

 

On the off-chance the RS female plugs don't want to plug into the Ford bulb holders just check if there's a little raised rib on the side of the female connector - to allow these connectors to be used in different applications they have a few different little caps that go on the ends and the rib position varies to match different male connectors but of the same type - error-proofing as you'd say. Easily removed with a Stanley knife or similar.

 

And if you're going for CREE bulbs make sure to swap the polarity over from the Ford end of things, if not already on your list.

Flocky
I'll have a close look at the connectors when I pick them up I'm sure I'll figure them out lol, regarding the cree bulbs I didn't realise you had to swap the polarity good job you mentioned it. Cheers
troy45

No problem, the info may already be here somewhere but I thought there was no harm mentioning it,

 

Caught me out when I first bought some CREE's and they wouldn't work when I tested them on the car (before the mod) but they worked just fine when I put them on a 12V power supply.

Lenny

I'll have a close look at the connectors when I pick them up I'm sure I'll figure them out lol, regarding the cree bulbs I didn't realise you had to swap the polarity good job you mentioned it. Cheers

No problem, the info may already be here somewhere but I thought there was no harm mentioning it,
 
Caught me out when I first bought some Cree's and they wouldn't work when I tested them on the car (before the mod) but they worked just fine when I put them on a 12V power supply.

i didn't need reverse polarity when i fitted Cree bulbs,
If you read up on Cree it says they work in both 12 and 24v supply straight swap canbus compatable,
There is a China version of replica cree bulbs on ebay perhaps that's why they were not working for people because they are reverse polarity,
I always bought then from alltronix.co.uk guaranteed genuine Cree from the USA bought in the UK there also supplier of the new model cree http://www.alltronix.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=517
Stoney871

Genuine Cree bulbs have smart polarity so should not need switching around to work.

Lenny

Genuine Cree bulbs have smart polarity so should not need switching around to work.

suppose best thing to do is cut the main connection to the reverse supply and connect again using insulated spade connectors,
Then if you need to reverse polarity just swap connection plugs,
But as said genuine cree dont need reversing parden the pun lol
troy45

I've never read up that much on CREE's, mainly gotten mine from mylitco on ebay  and they seem to work well with no problems. I'll look at the seller you've used but sods law says I've pretty much kitted all my bulbs out with CREE's already.

 

To check polarity etc before finally making wiring up I just used couple of pieces of connector block to work out polarity that worked, before soldering and heatshrinking the joints - was much easier than trying to match wiring colours from one side of the car to the other.



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