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Richiemac
Thank you civil-zz for that explanation.........have you any plans to do other models of Ford in the future ?
redholt
Anyone tried this with a GEM ending in AA. Had a look tonight but my Gem is different to the one in the tutorial. I've included a picture if anyone can shed some light on it. It's a Zetec diesel 55 plate.

http://db.tt/cyrojetF
civil-zz
[quote name='Richiemac' timestamp='1335874656' post='180389']
have you any plans to do other models of Ford in the future ?
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It's not clear. Now I'm working over Focus 3/Mondeo 4 but can't promise when it be possible to make a release..

@redholt,
Photo is too cut, but elements position is some strange. You can use ELMConfig for detection module part number or find it on box. If it *M5T-14A073-**, you can work with it
Richiemac
[quote name='redholt' timestamp='1335909234' post='180492']
Anyone tried this with a GEM ending in AA. Had a look tonight but my Gem is different to the one in the tutorial. I've included a picture if anyone can shed some light on it. It's a Zetec diesel 55 plate.

[url="http://db.tt/cyrojetF"]http://db.tt/cyrojetF[/url]
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That looks like engine bay fuse / relay box ..? Maybe i'm wrong.
Richiemac
Sounds good civil-zz .........Mondeo 4 is same as S Max ?
redholt
[quote name='Richiemac' timestamp='1335991771' post='180597']

That looks like engine bay fuse / relay box ..? Maybe i'm wrong.
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That's because it is as muggins here has uploaded the wrong picture! Will try get right pic upped in a bit.
civil-zz
[quote name='Richiemac' timestamp='1335991771' post='180597']
That looks like engine bay fuse / relay box ..? Maybe i'm wrong.
[/quote]
Oh, yes, of course, you are right!! Where are my eyes?.. :o
STAndyM
Another fantastic thread full of useful info. I nearly have a plan of action now for adding CC but there's one stumbling block for me. I don't want to lose the ST 3 spoke steering wheel.

Is it possible to retrofit the controls from the 4 spoke wheel to the 3 spoke ST wheel?
Pidu
[quote name='STAndyM' timestamp='1336083996' post='180764'] Is it possible to retrofit the controls from the 4 spoke wheel to the 3 spoke ST wheel? [/quote]

No, it is not possible.

There are other ways to fit CC, far from factory look but you could keep your ST steering wheel and you do not need controls from 4 spoke wheel.

CC buttons fitted under steering wheel covers:

[img]http://media.ffclub.ru/up26121-post-29-1235909158.jpg[/img]

[img]http://media.ffclub.ru/up26121-post-29-1218599637.jpg[/img]

or CC buttons fitted inside radio control stalk

[img]http://media.ffclub.ru/up67972-post-21-1245165014.jpg[/img]

[img]http://media.ffclub.ru/up67972-post-21-1245164396.jpg[/img]

Pictures from Russian forum [url="http://ffclub.ru/topic/3475/"]http://ffclub.ru/topic/3475/[/url]

This is for sure not plug and play but it can be done.
sstef
My car has a 4 spoke steering wheel without the cruise control buttons attached.
Is it possible to attach the cc buttons to the existing steering wheel without change it
and if so where can i find the buttons. i am looking on the internet and i found only the cc buttons for focus mk1 nothing for mk2
Stoney871
Far as i'm aware the mk2 buttons are integral to the wheel.
There are cc button wheels available on eBay.
The mk1 cc buttons were on a seperate bracket which attached to the wheel.
jarp
Mk2 focus CC buttons are not integrated to the steering wheel. They are connected to the wheel using screws and yes, they can be bough separately. However, steering wheel originally without CC buttons are NOT compatible with buttons. It seems that our Russian friends from FFClub have fitted buttons to non-buttoned wheel, but they have cut some plastic etc. New buttons does cost just as much than used wheel with CC buttons, so there's probably no point getting just the buttons (ie. I paid 70 EUR for leather steering wheel with CC buttons )...
Preee
[quote name='Pidu' timestamp='1336119846' post='180779']
No, it is not possible.

There are other ways to fit CC, far from factory look but you could keep your ST steering wheel and you do not need controls from 4 spoke wheel.

CC buttons fitted under steering wheel covers:

[img]http://media.ffclub.ru/up26121-post-29-1235909158.jpg[/img]

[img]http://media.ffclub.ru/up26121-post-29-1218599637.jpg[/img]

or CC buttons fitted inside radio control stalk

[img]http://media.ffclub.ru/up67972-post-21-1245165014.jpg[/img]

[img]http://media.ffclub.ru/up67972-post-21-1245164396.jpg[/img]

Pictures from Russian forum [url="http://ffclub.ru/topic/3475/"]http://ffclub.ru/topic/3475/[/url]

This is for sure not plug and play but it can be done.
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Now thats some clever thinking :)
STAndyM
I think under the steering wheel covers is what I'll be going for if I can't get a good custom fit between the spokes on a 3 spoke st wheel. I think with a bit of fibreglass it's doable though.

In that 3 spoke pic have they simply taken the push switches out of the original switch units or are have they spliced new switches into the existing wiring?

Also, can anybody actually confirm they've managed to activate CC on an ST? I've got a spare 3 spoke wheel on the way and I'm trying to get hold of a 4 spoke now I can use to donate the switches.
Richiemac
When you get the 4 spoke with buttons put it on and try it after you do the activation.........then you know if it works and you can carry on canibalising the wheel as planned :)
redholt
Well i have done all my checks and I meet 3 out of the 4 criteria. The only one I dont have is the correct GEM number. Mine ends in BX instead of DX. Can get a wheel for £75 from the local scraper so might just risk it and can always sell the wheel if not.
Richiemac
Mine was different aswell, but worked ok ......give it a shot anyway.
Haz93
Just out of curiosity, does anyone know where the CC switches are in the ST, as I have seen them advertised on autotrader with CC but in the pics they have the 3 spoke ST wheel?
I haven't seen the switches in any of the pictures, so was just wondering if Ford even offered the ST with CC or are the autotrader people not telling the truth!?
:)
jordan_macgregor
[quote name='Preee' timestamp='1331232888' post='171462']
Quick update.

radio info displays radio station or frequency , CD track , but does not display music via memory stick.

Phone info displays incoming call info

Shift change although displays when you start the car , i held at 4000 rpm and as of yet has not displayed while driving.( Wife will probably get that one to display)

Reverse sound , is totally annoying and i will switch that off.

:)
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Just a quick question - nothing to do with the retro fitting CC, what stereo do you have that your playing music through a memory stick?
Preee
[quote name='jordan_macgregor' timestamp='1337892305' post='184141']
Just a quick question - nothing to do with the retro fitting CC, what stereo do you have that your playing music through a memory stick?
[/quote]

I have the satnav fx model
jordan_macgregor
[quote name='Preee' timestamp='1337969362' post='184225']
I have the satnav fx model
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ahh..didnt realise this had USB, think i might have another look on ebay, where did you get yours?
Preee
Mine was already fitted to the car , along with the USB socket inside the armrest
ShinyAndy
Hi, I've just bought a 2008 TDCI Titanium that has cruise fitted already but the airbag cover is cracked. Having scoured Google I was eventually directed to this thread about replacing it. You say that you have to butcher the old cover to fit a replacement but do you have to remove the wheel and everything else to do this or can you do it all in situ? Are we talking side cutters/stanley knife style butchering or leverage with a screwdriver (obviously helps that the cover is already cracked)?
Pidu
You would need to remove airbag only, no need to remove steering wheel. Remember to disconnect battery first. You will find the "how-to" in first post of this thread. You can use side cutters / stanley knife to get rid of old airbag cover, using screwdriver might lead to airbag damage. Once you have airbag in you hand it will be very easy. It should not take more then 10-15 minutes to replace it.
ShinyAndy
Thanks Peter
jordan_macgregor
[quote name='Preee' timestamp='1337974136' post='184232']
Mine was already fitted to the car , along with the USB socket inside the armrest
[/quote]

do you know if you can buy the relevant leads for a usb connection to/from the system?
mattp9394
Been following this with interest, very keen to get on and do it but want to find a garage that is willing to activate it first before I buy a wheel.

anyway found this if anyone is interested

[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/251071373372?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_500wt_1287"]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/251071373372?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_500wt_1287[/url]
Richiemac
[quote name='mattp9394' timestamp='1338649678' post='185201']
Been following this with interest, very keen to get on and do it but want to find a garage that is willing to activate it first before I buy a wheel.

anyway found this if anyone is interested

[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/251071373372?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_500wt_1287"]http://www.ebay.co.u...9#ht_500wt_1287[/url]
[/quote]
Buy the wheeel and put it on, then activate it in the GEM and IPC yourself with the ELM lead...........worked on mine, 2008 facelift. Worth a shot. :)
gforce
[quote name='Haz93' timestamp='1337169348' post='182836']
Just out of curiosity, does anyone know where the CC switches are in the ST, as I have seen them advertised on autotrader with CC but in the pics they have the 3 spoke ST wheel?
I haven't seen the switches in any of the pictures, so was just wondering if Ford even offered the ST with CC or are the autotrader people not telling the truth!?
:)
[/quote]

Cruise Control wasn't on the ST, as you say it has the 3 spoke wheel and so wasn't on it. A few of the guys on STOC are following this with interest too and looking to retro-fit it themselves. Funny seeing the ST owners clamber for the 'downgrade' steering wheel for a change, haha.

Anyway, in terms of autotrader I'm pretty sure the ads you mention are probably referring to Climate (rather than Cruise) Control when stating CC.
TDCiST
just out of interest.... would this work??

[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-FOCUS-1-6-TDCI-CRUISE-CONTROL-SWITCH-STORK-BREAKING-2008-/180883738564?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&fits=Model%3AFocus&hash=item2a1d82cfc4#ht_1614wt_1110"]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-FOCUS-1-6-TDCI-CRUISE-CONTROL-SWITCH-STORK-BREAKING-2008-/180883738564?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&fits=Model%3AFocus&hash=item2a1d82cfc4#ht_1614wt_1110[/url]

On closer inspection I appear to have all the switches... Blue and Black on brake, and black on clutch... I'll check the GEM code, and steering wheel plug on my next day off!
Stoney871
[quote name='TDCiST' timestamp='1339009029' post='185967']
just out of interest.... would this work??
[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-FOCUS-1-6-TDCI-CRUISE-CONTROL-SWITCH-STORK-BREAKING-2008-/180883738564?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&fits=Model%3AFocus&hash=item2a1d82cfc4#ht_1614wt_1110"]http://www.ebay.co.u...#ht_1614wt_1110[/url]
[/quote]

That looks like a standard info/indicator stalk to me, i bet they stated cruise control purely to sell a part for a high price which can usually be picked up for a tenner at a scrappy.
alkyz89
i wonder if you can buy a blank switch to go next to the heated windscreen control buttons, attach the relevant wires and use that as the cc activation switch as apposed to replacing the steering wheel and air bag??
Paul-S
It can be done [url="http://www.fordownersclub.com/forums/user/25151-alkyz89/"]alkyz89[/url], as people on the Russian forums have added their own switches to the steering wheel, it would be cool if someone could come up with a walkthrough for fitting remote switches, as the 4 spoke steering wheels seem to be quite difficult to get hold of.

Cheers
Haz93
Anyone had an aftermarket professional kit done??

http://www.conrad-anderson.co.uk/cruisecontrols/cruisecontrols-home.htm

Seems like the modules they sell just attatch to any steering wheel and seems to be marketed towards the focus :)
TDCiST
Found out yesterday that my local dealer are more than happy to play with IDS for me to activate cruise control and other bits ;)

The hunt is on for a wheel now!
clubber
Is the sticker I need to read the GEM number the one on the fuse box under the glove box? The one that you can see when you pop off the cover?
murre87
[quote name='clubber' timestamp='1345572742' post='202459']
Is the sticker I need to read the GEM number the one on the fuse box under the glove box? The one that you can see when you pop off the cover?
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BUMB
murre87
[quote name='Pidu' timestamp='1327531013' post='163213']
1. GEM number – according to info I have it must end with DX (where X could be any letter - A,B or any other), for example 4M5T-14A073-DW. I have read about another person who has successfully added Cruise Control to their Ford with a "C" GEM, but it was only one case and I am not 100% sure about it. You can read the GEM number on the sticker on the other side of fuse box.
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My gem number ends with "-CJ".
Got a link or referens from where you read that someone successfully added Cruise Control to their Ford with a "C" GEM?
Richiemac
I added it to mine.....Focus 2008 MK2.5......GEM part no. 7M5T- 14A073- BB
Put on the wheel, activate it in the HEC & GEM and it worked.........
irl-06lx
would love a button as mentioned before for just cruise on/off.

Dontr really need the increase speed etc just a simple on off would be amazing. Any info on doing this anyone?
Richiemac
Easier to put the wheel on and activate...........gives you the lot with no messing.
irl-06lx
ye but finding the wheel is like finding a needle in a haystack..
murre87
[quote name='Richiemac' timestamp='1345709692' post='202767']
I added it to mine.....Focus 2008 MK2.5......GEM part no. 7M5T- 14A073- BB
Put on the wheel, activate it in the HEC & GEM and it worked.........
[/quote]

ok.
My GEM-Number: 4M5T-14A073-CJ

How did you activated HEC & GEM? By a modified ELM327 nad ELMconfig or bye Ford Garage?
Richiemac
Did it with ELMConfig...........
Richiemac
[quote name='irl-06lx' timestamp='1345711670' post='202779']
ye but finding the wheel is like finding a needle in a haystack..
[/quote]

Easily got on Motoallegro.pl I can get one if you like ....?
murre87
[quote name='irl-06lx' timestamp='1345711670' post='202779']
ye but finding the wheel is like finding a needle in a haystack..
[/quote]

Or here:
http://en.bildelsbasen.se/
Stoney871
[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/110927679777?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649"]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/110927679777?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649[/url]
clubber
[quote name='Richiemac' timestamp='1345714721' post='202791']
Easily got on Motoallegro.pl I can get one if you like ....?
[/quote]

Just had a look on there, most of them are C-Max ones which aren't suitable.
murre87
Dam. Got big problems trying to remove the airbag. First remove two scews behind thé wheel and then a flat screwdriver to remove thé airbag? The airbag wont come off.
irl-06lx
thanks for the links, dont see an option to buy any of the ones I've found on the second site, and the first site is not in english and haven't had a chance to translate yet.

the ebay one is brilliant except it looks a bit damaged at the bottom.


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