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Stoney871
[quote name='irl-06lx' timestamp='1345761737' post='202984']
the ebay one is brilliant except it looks a bit damaged at the bottom.
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I think it's just dirt, you could always ask them for extra photos.
irl-06lx
ye i might ask them to give it a clean and retake the pic.

the bottom section of the wheel, the left most white mark looks like a nick out of it at the very least.
Stoney871
I'm sure they will oblige.
Most do.
clubber
It's impossible to find a Focus steering wheel
Muzza80
I just won that one on Ebay, may actually get it retrimmed though if it;s going to work.

Has anyone tried this yet on an ST? Mine is a 2008 ST-3 but I've not had a chance yet to check the wiring, switches and GEM module so no idea if it's even possible yet,

Any ideas?

Cheers!
clubber
My GEM ends JD. Is that game over for me?
Muzza80
[quote name='clubber' timestamp='1346958221' post='205263']
My GEM ends JD. Is that game over for me?
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Mine too on my December 2008 ST-3 :(

[IMG]http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb241/MCSTORM/null-51.jpg[/IMG]


Not looking good.
021C
I'm no expert so this may not be the definitive answer... But my understanding is the ST ( all trim levels) were not available with CC as an option. Therefore, inclusion of appropriate GEM and switches would not be necessary on the basic build.

Have you checked your clutch and brake ?

How far did you get with acquiring parts?

Stu
Muzza80
CC was never an option on the ST, no, so you could be right although in my experience (with Vauxhall mainly) the higher specced car's (ST-3 with every option ticked) tend to have the more complete wiring looms and fuse boxes to cater for the extras.

I have the clutch/brakes switches, the correct wiring into the GEM, wiring behind the wheel and the instrument panel has the little green light up cruise icon (when doing LED test)

I have a replacement 4 spoke steering wheel with the buttons so I'm going to give it a bash anyway, no harm done if it don't work as I'll sell it on but bonus if it does.
Kameleonten
hi,
my GEM version is ending with DC and have alla wires and wheel in place, and also cruise control activated in ELMConfig, but I get no reactions. Are there any fuses that's need to be checked?
Tiggie
Hi I have a mk2.5 2007/8 ford focus its auto and wonderd can the conversion be done with a automatic ? Many thanks
Tiggie
Just looked I have the brown wire, I have the 2 brake switches ( no clutch as auto) I have letters CB too not checked under steering wheel yet but assume the rest would be there as my cars newish
Tiggie
Hi if I got a cmax wheel and cmax airbag would that work?
Richiemac
You will have to buy a bag also then ??? Why do that ....i have the wheel for you, fitted and tested on my own car.
Tiggie
Hi rich I guess it was you on eBay ? I've ended up getting a cmax wheel and air bag for 50 with cc buttens I assume there a lot more but was lucky!
Richiemac
No worries, hope the loom plug is the same........you'll find out soon enough.
Tiggie
Lol not thought of that!
Tiggie
Okay update as far as I go: the cmax steering wheel fits has same connections but that has a choice of two airbag connections and that fits to all fitted plugged in no warnings etc,
As far as the cc is concerned its not lighting up and not working, ill go to a ford place Monday and see if they can turn it all on for me, what should I ask him? Just use ids computer and turn it on? And same for lights? Any help appreciated
Tiggie
Please also is there any fuses that need to be put in first? Thanks
Tiggie
Okay car booked in ford on Monday can some one help me to explane what needs sowing to set it up? Urgent help needed
Richiemac
You need cc activated in the instrument cluster, GEM module and possibly the PCM.

Activate autolights in the GEM module.

I'd get the latest software calibrations done to all modules while you're at it.

Good luck.
Tiggie
[quote name='Richiemac' timestamp='1349523104' post='209965']
You need cc activated in the instrument cluster, GEM module and possibly the PCM.

Activate autolights in the GEM module.

I'd get the latest software calibrations done to all modules while you're at it.

Good luck.
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thanks mate may well need it, So today i did the test of the buttens, if i hold down the rear heated window thing, it beeps and flashes indicators on all new Cruse control buttons
I will ask them to go into the cluster and change that and will have to see what they can do with the gem and pcm Do they need to Re write it or just tick a box?
Richiemac
The options should be in the ' personality ' option in 'programmable parameters' for each module......if i recall correctly.
Get the latest PCM calibration anyway, it'll improve the running of your engine.......worked wonders for me anyway.
Tiggie
Okay new News Today i bought this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/230850332682?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649 its a tool thats been modified and comes with software
any thoughts,? im still booked in for monday at ford, shall still go but may of been a waste of money...
clubber
[quote name='Tiggie' timestamp='1349621884' post='210104']
Okay new News Today i bought this [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/230850332682?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649"]http://www.ebay.co.u...984.m1439.l2649[/url] its a tool thats been modified and comes with software
any thoughts,? im still booked in for monday at ford, shall still go but may of been a waste of money...
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You could have made your own for less than £15. There's a thread on how to do it here: [url="http://www.fordownersclub.com/forums/topic/31287-guide-for-focus-mk2mk25-c-maxkuga-elm-327-cable-and-ff2-program/"]http://www.fordowner...nd-ff2-program/[/url]

You need this [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/250925123902?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2648#ht_1819wt_1186"]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/250925123902?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2648#ht_1819wt_1186[/url]

and this [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280974135409&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en#ht_500wt_969"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280974135409&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en#ht_500wt_969[/url]

then solder the wires on. Simples
Tiggie
Not good with wires, it wasnt a bad price, the software seems to be in english, Would you all like it uploaded? this is the screen shots of the software
http://s72.photobucket.com/albums/i200/boylin/?action=view&current=9e0f64ff.jpg#!oZZ34QQcurrentZZhttp%3A%2F%2Fs72.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fi200%2Fboylin%2F%3Faction%3Dview%26current%3D824adc88.png
and http://s72.photobucket.com/albums/i200/boylin/?action=view&current=9e0f64ff.jpg#!oZZ35QQcurrentZZhttp%3A%2F%2Fs72.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fi200%2Fboylin%2F%3Faction%3Dview%26current%3Dfbbf2b93.png
Richiemac
Software is freeware.......wondered how long it would be before someone cashed in on it...........

https://rapidshare.com/files/2004950884/ELMConfig.zip
Tiggie
At ford now been told option isn't in the gem
I've asked them to update any modals they can to see if it will show up, if not looks like the end of the road & 89 bill
Tiggie
Okay 89 pounds lighter no luck guy recons there are no configure things to add it after updating the car :( home brew kits on order anyway
Richiemac
When you get your cable, activate it yourself in GEM and HEC, what part number is your GEM module ?
Tiggie
CB it shows
Richiemac
Did he go into ' Speed Items ' menu with the IDS ?
Tiggie
No idea I wasn't allowed to see ill have to use that software you said
The program doesn't open on my pc though
clubber
Have you got an ST mate? I know someone over on stoc that tried it and it wouldn't work.
Tiggie
[quote name='clubber' timestamp='1349710154' post='210276']
Have you got an ST mate? I know someone over on stoc that tried it and it wouldn't work.
[/quote] no it's a auto though
Richiemac
Did you run the DLL pack first ?
Tiggie
Okay so i have the software working now on my lilttle laptop, When i get the wire * any day now* What do i need to do with the software, can you expand how i use it a little more? i can open the program as is but dont understand what i need to do, I guess Guess i need to copy the configuration on to my laptop how do i do that? and then tick the boxes i want ( can only see stuff in offline mode) then in gem i tick curse control and just apply? any help will be brillent expecting wire tomorw,
Tiggie
Okay so I got the wire through today I've tried and I've been and enabled everything I need to system menu but nothing is happening when I hit cc no dash light and not keeping speed, I've found the clutch wire and wired them as a closed connection any suggestions I've missed?
Kameleonten
[quote name='Tiggie' timestamp='1350499879' post='212112']
Okay so I got the wire through today I've tried and I've been and enabled everything I need to system menu but nothing is happening when I hit cc no dash light and not keeping speed, I've found the clutch wire and wired them as a closed connection any suggestions I've missed?
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Why did you wired the clutch connection? For testing?
Tiggie
I think it's a closed connection an was hopping that's why my cc wouldn't work
I'm going to get a gem out of a tdci and re program and see if that makes my cc work
SkinnyB
For anyone wanting to do this mod like me, I've found a guy selling the 4spoke steering wheel cover on the cheap. Got my 4 spoke steering wheel months ago but couldnt justify paying some of the prices the covers are being sold for.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/281010750940

He is from Poland though, I odered mine on Friday messaged him and he said It will be posted today (Monday) and I should have it in 5-7days.I think I ended up paying 36 including postage which I'm happy about. Can't wait to get cc, I jus hope it will be a nice and easy mod and I won't run into some of the problems some people have been running into lately. Fingers crossed!
tom_cmax
hey guys so ive managed to get my elm wire working (what a nightmare that was) just waiting on my steering wheel to turn up..

hoping it will work im fitting it to a cmax 1.6 zetec, all the wiring is there so just hoping that enabling it just with the elm will work (fingers crossed)

does anyone know if they have managed to make this work on a CC gem? (aptly named i hope...
tom_cmax
well just incase anyone is wondering a CC gem doesnt work with it.. so time for me to try and find a dealer who will play with my pcm... anyone know of anywhere in the south east?
Tiggie
[quote name='tom_cmax' timestamp='1352581277' post='216194']
well just in case anyone is wondering a CC gem doesn't work with it.. so time for me to try and find a dealer who will play with my pcm... anyone know of anywhere in the south east?
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Hi Tom Please dont go to the dealers, I have been there my self and they update the car £80+ and then say its not in the Pcm And its not!
the only thing i think you can do is get a new Fuse box (pcm modual) and change it for one that sports cc :( i will do this one day but ive not seen one online for the 1.6 petrol as yet with cc
murre87
[quote name='Tiggie' timestamp='1352670618' post='216352']
Hi Tom Please dont go to the dealers, I have been there my self and they update the car £80+ and then say its not in the Pcm And its not!
the only thing i think you can do is get a new Fuse box (pcm modual) and change it for one that sports cc :( i will do this one day but ive not seen one online for the 1.6 petrol as yet with cc
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Do you know the consequences of switching fusebox
From: 4M5T-14A073-CJ
To: 4M5T-14A073-DG

It might be other parameters that change besides the possibility of cruise control?

[quote] If you have a 2002 or above and you do require programming avoid the dealer at all costs, and have it programmed by and independent shop[/quote]
http://blog.autopartscheaper.com/?p=38
TDCiST
So... I've downloaded ELMConfig... With a modded cable, is that all i need to change items on my car?? or do i need any other software??

I've found a wheel on ebay (Just need to find the airbag cover) and if this is all i need, I'll pretty much have CC working for under £100!
Richiemac
That's it, good to go...........
cragger89
Wow, this has been an interesting read.

I pick up my new car on Saturday (MK 2.5 focus zetec "sport") which doesn't have cruise control, but it is a gadget I miss from my BMW. In fact, it is the only thing about my BMW I miss!

I will check the pedals for these switches on Saturday. Is there anybody in the Lincolnshire area who would be happy to do the swap for me if I supplied the parts? I'm a bit funny about working with the air bag areas of my own cars - I know disconnecting the -ve on the battery is enough, but still.

Before I forget; good work to the original poster for either finding this or working it out and posting it.
FekuFord
So it would appear that the GEM module is in the fusebox.

It's likely that there is a simple connection (possibly only a fuse) required to activate cc on a car with a C gem instead of a D gem module after activating in the pcm, display and gem on ids.

To take this forward it would be really helpful if someone with a D gem fusebox would post a good photo of their fuses to compare with my C fusebox.

Thanks.
o5ky
Can you please advise if it would be possible to make my own cruise control switch to save taking apart the steering wheel and just splice the cable as it comes down the steering arm? if so which cable is it / which cables do what?

Thanks
cragger89
I too am tempted to go the route of making my own switch instead of changing the steering wheel. All I would want is the button to turn the system on or off, so a single push button stuck to the back of the hifi remote control would be perfect in this case.

Still haven't looked to see if I have the right bits on the car to make it possible yet.


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