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Pidu
[quote name='cragger89' timestamp='1354788598' post='219916']
All I would want is the button to turn the system on or off, so a single push button stuck to the back of the hifi remote control would be perfect in this case.[/quote]

There is such solution described on Russian Focus forum, requires some work with electrics to make buttons work but it was already done and working so can be done again.

[img]http://media.ffclub.ru/up67972-post-21-1245164396.jpg[/img]

Link: [url="http://ffclub.ru/topic/3475/jump_4560/#entry10626295"]http://ffclub.ru/top.../#entry10626295[/url]

On the other hand fitting steering wheel with CC is not a problem and interior still looks genuine. Your choice.
cragger89
Very true, it was this particular post which put the idea in my mind. Adding a single push button would be much cheaper than buying a new steering wheel and airbag cover.

Thankfully, the car is so comfortable even on a long run that I am not finding myself lusting for CC yet, so will wait a bit longer before pulling the trigger.
Pidu
[quote name='cragger89' timestamp='1355247728' post='220630']
Thankfully, the car is so comfortable even on a long run that I am not finding myself lusting for CC yet, so will wait a bit longer before pulling the trigger.
[/quote]

I guess it all depends on distances. On 100-200 miles journey I'm fine, but when doing 500-1000 miles one way I simply like to turn on CC and enjoy. Max speed in this case is not that important for me, prefer good steady speed all the way as long as conditions / traffic allow. For me CC was the best mod and I'm still happy with it.
Brigante
I must say I do like having cruise control for any motorway really.

It's nice to just set the CC to 70, put on some decent tunes just relax. Makes for a really pleasent drive.
MrTee
I've a a GEM ending in CE, on my 1.6 Zetec TDCi Estate.
This is likely to work? Are there are links for Cx GEMs?

Thanks
PhilT
Richiemac
Try it before you buy anything.....mine ends BB in 2008 Focus and it worked...........
MrTee
[quote name='Richiemac' timestamp='1355694512' post='221585']
Try it before you buy anything.....mine ends BB in 2008 Focus and it worked...........
[/quote]

Thanks, but what can I do to try it?
I've only got the 3-spoke wheel.

Or am I missing something obvious?
cragger89
If someone butchered a 4 spoke steering wheel and had the buttons left over, would I be able to plug them in to my car without changing the wheel at all? I understand they will not fit to the wheel properly, but I would be able to find someone to make up a mounting bracket so they can just clip to the steering column.

Don't want to risk buying them and find they HAVE to plug into a socket which is only on the 4 spoke wheel. I would normally just dive in and try it, but would rather ask you experts first.
FekuFord
My gem is a cc running version 10 software and cruise doesn't work.

Anyone with cruise working know what version software they have?

Is it possible to flash the software in the gem?

Would save having to buy a new module.

Thanks.

FuF.
mcp
I've just tried this on my 2006 focus zetec with GEM code ending in BH and it didnt work. I connected the steering wheel and using the beep test where you hold down heated rear windscreen button while turing ignition on and the cruise control buttons worked. I then enabled "cruise control configuration" using ELMconfig in the HEC and GEM but no luck. Have I missed anything out?
For people who have got it to work when you turn the ignition on does the cruise control light come on? If it does, an easy way to test to see if your car supports it could be to try enabling it using ELMconfig and if it illuminates your car supports it.

[quote name='cragger89' timestamp='1356021455' post='222193']
If someone butchered a 4 spoke steering wheel and had the buttons left over, would I be able to plug them in to my car without changing the wheel at all? I understand they will not fit to the wheel properly, but I would be able to find someone to make up a mounting bracket so they can just clip to the steering column.

Don't want to risk buying them and find they HAVE to plug into a socket which is only on the 4 spoke wheel. I would normally just dive in and try it, but would rather ask you experts first.
[/quote]

The connectors are the same just with a couple of extra wires. I would have taken a pic but I've just put the airbag back on. If you want you could connect the controls into the wires under the steering column
Giffer2
The steering wheels seem pretty hard to come by at the moment, but as I have a 4 spoke wheel anyway would the following fit?

http://www.gasgoo.com/auto-products/electronics-parts-822/1348164.html
Stoney871
You've got to love the rough translation on some of these sites.
redholt
So if after you fit the 4 spoke and it does not work, can you still whip it to ford to have it activated or are they not forthcoming about the whole thing?
jeebowhite
Just checked my gem seems to end BF, no cruise for me I guess...
Richiemac

Wouldn't assume that yet....if the wiring is there, it'll work......if your PCM supports it.   Try to find out really is all you can do. I've activated it in a few GEM modules  now and swapped them into my car to test, and they all work. I think its more down to the PCM myself....... 

murre87

Wouldn't assume that yet....if the wiring is there, it'll work......if your PCM supports it.   Try to find out really is all you can do. I've activated it in a few GEM modules  now and swapped them into my car to test, and they all work. I think its more down to the PCM myself....... 

 

You need IDS or go to a ford garage. Instructions:

Firstly check calibration number in PCM programming and write it down.
Then
shut down IDS and this time let IDS connect to the car with IGnition
OFF. After some time you will get to a point where it says that a new
PCM might be installed. Leave Ign off and get to screen wheree it asks
for PCMN calibration number. Enter the one you previously wrote dowm.
Now go to programming, Module install and program PCM, it will then go
through all the options fitted like cruise control (speed control)



You
need to reprogram PCM with the speed control active. Though you have to
fool it by thinking you have installed a new PCM. Have ignition off
whilst IDS is connecting. Then pick model manually and you will need PCM
part number. You can get this on the programming page. Then it will go
through various configuration questions about what is fitted to vehicle.

 

Richiemac

There you go......sorted  :)   Ta.

mrmetallica

is there any fusses for this ? mine has stopped working and i cant see why.

ffz

I will be following this guide tomorrow, if I can get a steering wheel from a local scrapyard. 

 

Reading about the Russian software, and the modified ELM cable, is there any information out there related to premade remapping? Something along the lines of a Bluefin profile? 

ffz

So, I got a wheel, although the leather is ripped. 

 

Once I have had the Cruise Control activated, I'll be changing the wheel for one in better condition. 

 

Luckily for me, I was scratching my head trying to figure out if I knew anyone that works at Ford, and I remembered one of my Dad's customers is a Ford mechanic. Fingers crossed I can get it activated next week. 

 

All this effort, and I might sell it because I am getting pee'd off with the rust :-(

ffz
If anyone is doing this in Doncaster, Stoneacre want £80 for the IDC/PCM activation, and I found an independant who wants £50.
rus-45

Cruise control can be done by hand.

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yaris
I have a GEM BF and I have successfully activate cruise control
rus-45

Information as to establish their own hands buttons for cruise control is on the Russian site http://ffclub.ru/topic/3475/. I installed on my car cruise control. If you have any questions, please contact me.4730c2ce3fc4.jpg

jeebowhite

Hi Rus-45, are you saying that you have managed to install cruise control using that russian guide?

 

I find the translations are a bit rough, but are you able to compose a guide of your own based on the guide you followed and what you did to achieve the installation?

 

what parts did you buy and how much did it cost in all?

rus-45

Tell us what is not clear. The price of all radio components 2 - 3 $. + Buttons on the old remote control SONY.

jeebowhite

a lot of it seems to be lost in translation, where words are not translated well, or at all. other steps seem to miss instructions, so it seems to be not so fluent.

 

It looks like you need to be excellent at wiring and soldering to do it yourself though?

yaris
Jeebowhite, it would be better not to buy the same cruise control buttons on the other hand, or the steering wheel
jeebowhite

Sorry Jarek I am not quite sure I follow (been up all night, so to be fair, I question if black is black, or white!)

yaris
whether black is black or white is up to you, each sees it differently
jeebowhite

lol, very true!

 

so what do you mean by the "better not to buy the same cruise control buttons on the other hand, or the steering wheel"?

yaris
Sory better buy new buttons or stering wheel easy to do
jeebowhite

that makes sense :) thats the way I was going to do it, dont have the cash now, but I can never seem to find the steering wheels for sale :p

yaris
you see black is white
jeebowhite

lol :)

johnH

How about cruise control buttons on your radio stalk?

 

Makes it alot more easier that having to take of your steering wheel etc.

 

I am now talking to a chinese seller about getting one of these devices and trying it. If all goes well i may be able to rangle some forum discounts :D

jeebowhite

I would genuinely be tempted, but unless I mis interpreted half of the instructions, it seems you need to be very good at wiring / soldering at a minimum...

johnH

Look at the stalk, it seems to be a plug in, wire up the two wires, activate via IDS or that elm trick and dusted...Your cruising down the A1 (m) at 70mph

 

EDIT: but like i say i will take the punt, get the first device and activate using my IDS and test

 

EDIT 2: I have attached a circuit diagram of basically Rus is talking about...You will need to understand electronic to even know...But basically the squares are resistors, the things next to labels are buttons and the lines are wires.

jeebowhite

And theres my limitation - I cant read electrics :D

 

That kit doesnt come with any resistors does it? so you would need to wire them in manually?

johnH

lol its already made according to the info they supplied. basically you disconnect your radio stalk, remove the two screws holding the steering column surround...i think scotch lock onto the wires. put surround back on plug in new radio/cruise stalk.

 

Get activation done on GEM, IC and PCM (im clarifying this)...i know it needs activating

 

Done. :D

 

I get paid on thursday night for friday and so will send the fund for one of these and try. Ive checked all the wiring etc and its all there.

 

EDIT: i may even go out tonight and spend some time playing with my VCM to activate cruise control so next week when i get it, its a case of plug and play :D

jeebowhite
Well if you can make it that easy it will be one hell of an investment... How much you paying ?
johnH
£90 thats including shipping. Ive managed to get some discount but the supplier is prepared to give further if i agree and it works :D
jeebowhite

a bit steep I have to say!

 

Whats the realistic discount you can get?

johnH
Yeah ive already got him down from £130. I think the main cost is the fact its a new media stalk from ford that they modify. Not too sure how much a new one costs. But in the end 9/10 it cheaper that buying a new steering wheel, buttons, airbag and then getting it activated
ffz

Yeah ive already got him down from £130. I think the main cost is the fact its a new media stalk from ford that they modify. Not too sure how much a new one costs. But in the end 9/10 it cheaper that buying a new steering wheel, buttons, airbag and then getting it activated

I paid £40 for a steering wheel with cruise buttons

jeebowhite

Yeah thats my worry, you can buy them for a lot less...

johnH

I think i can push him down a bit more to the similar price of the steering wheel listed previously. But to be honest i dont like the sounds of taking my steering wheel off and airbag unit (possibly buying second hand); i dont have a decent torque wrench to tighten the wheel up properly and knowing my luck the airbag will go off when i try and get it off...im like Mr. Bean when it comes to spanners, give me a computer any day...IT Techy not Mechy is my motto.

Stoney871
The airbag is easy to remove as long as you disconnect the battery and allow any residual charge to disperse.
The only tricky part is swapping the airbag covers over.
johnH

still wouldnt trust myself lol...I'll put it all back together and go for a drive. The steering wheel will come away and and the airbag will go off backwards and inside out lol



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