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Gary Minty Jupe
Think i have got the same problem StanH had with the scotchlocks as nothing is working as in #96 !!!! but have fitted sensors and run all the wires inside the bumper and up through the rubber grommet so i think it time to get the soldering iron out tomorrow
minnis
[quote name='Gary Minty Jupe' timestamp='1354832745' post='220021']
Think i have got the same problem StanH had with the scotchlocks as nothing is working as in #96 !!!! but have fitted sensors and run all the wires inside the bumper and up through the rubber grommet so i think it time to get the soldering iron out tomorrow
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I had this problem. The scotch-lok's weren't cutting through the rubber casing of the wires, so no connection was made. Just get a wire stripper/knife (and be careful!) and expose the wire, then solder on and cover it with some electrical tape.
GSM
[quote name='Gary Minty Jupe' timestamp='1354832745' post='220021']
Think i have got the same problem StanH had with the scotchlocks as nothing is working as in #96 !!!! but have fitted sensors and run all the wires inside the bumper and up through the rubber grommet so i think it time to get the soldering iron out tomorrow
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I tend to give my scotch locks a good squeeze with pliers once I apply them to force them to cut through and make the connection. I find that sometimes just pushing them with your fingers isn't enough.

In anycase I'd advise against scotch locks. They CAN be dangerous. They're mass-produced and have a high failure rate... if you fit a faulty one unknowingly it might lead to some harsh consequences...

Instead I'd recommend crimp connectors. Pretty much what I use with all my electrical mods. Soldering is good too, but it's a lot more difficult and requires a bit more skill than crimp connectors. Can easily go wrong if you're not experienced at soldering.
Gary Minty Jupe
soldering iron came out as it was the scotchlock not connecting properly, all fitted and working well excellent guide massive time saver
Crinkleybottoms
Great guide guys with so much information.......I am thinking of fitting a set of these but am also thinking of putting a inline switch in to the system to turn them off if needs be.
Has anyone done this or knows how to do it?
My thoughts at the moment are a small round toggle switch out of the way near the steering coloum?

Thanks in advance

Crinkley Bottoms(Johnny)
GSM
[quote name='Crinkleybottoms' timestamp='1360592600' post='234966']
Great guide guys with so much information.......I am thinking of fitting a set of these but am also thinking of putting a inline switch in to the system to turn them off if needs be.
Has anyone done this or knows how to do it?
My thoughts at the moment are a small round toggle switch out of the way near the steering coloum?

Thanks in advance

Crinkley Bottoms(Johnny)
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The live for the system is connected to the live for the reverse light. In other words, the system is only "on" when you engage reverse gear - it's not on all the time (would be no need for that unless you wanted a precise measure of just how far up your arse that Audi is!).
Crinkleybottoms
[quote name='GSM' timestamp='1360592739' post='234967']
The live for the system is connected to the live for the reverse light. In other words, the system is only "on" when you engage reverse gear - it's not on all the time (would be no need for that unless you wanted a precise measure of just how far up your arse that Audi is!).
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Thanks .... I understand that live is live when reverse is selected but I also pull a small trailer from time to time and would like to turn them off? Just wondered if anybody had done it?
I suppose I could always pull the wire off for the beeper when I connect the trailer.
But was hoping to put a small switch up front somewhere.

Cheers in advance

CrinkleyBottoms
vibeone
Anyone know if the 'Sea Grey' colour on the ebay auction linked to in the guide is a good match for Ford's 'Sea Grey' on the 08 onwards focus?

How does this unit compare to the OEM parking sensor system? No one mentions it, so I assume its expensive/not available from Ford?
Preee
[quote name='Crinkleybottoms' timestamp='1360744820' post='235501']
Thanks .... I understand that live is live when reverse is selected but I also pull a small trailer from time to time and would like to turn them off? Just wondered if anybody had done it?
I suppose I could always pull the wire off for the beeper when I connect the trailer.
But was hoping to put a small switch up front somewhere.

Cheers in advance

CrinkleyBottoms
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Very easy to put a switch between the reverse unit , simple two wires from rear of the car to the front or even leave the switch in the back for when you attach the trailer
Preee
The sensors i had fitted were great and the visual aid also worked very good , ford OEM is just a bleeper.
vibeone
[quote name='Preee' timestamp='1360945825' post='236046']
The sensors i had fitted were great and the visual aid also worked very good , ford OEM is just a bleeper.
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Cheers Preee.... your focus is moondust silver right? Does that mean you put moondust silver sensors (as stated in the ebay link) on your moondust silver car?

I'm just trying to judge which colour to go for on my sea grey focus.... sea grey being the obvious choice, but it looks slightly lighter.
Preee
[quote name='vibeone' timestamp='1360945948' post='236047']
Cheers Preee.... your focus is moondust silver right? Does that mean you put moondust silver sensors (as stated in the ebay link) on your moondust silver car?

I'm just trying to judge which colour to go for on my sea grey focus.... sea grey being the obvious choice, but it looks slightly lighter.
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Yes i used the Silver on my (Old Focus) , it was moondust , the sensors were just classed as silver but the match was near perfect , as they are quite small it should not be too bad , but you can't tell from pictures , at the very least you could either go for a set that are paint matched properly or spray them yourself it's its a bad colour match.
iwaldo

I've just bought a set of these with the little crescent moon display box. Going to try fitting them to my mk2 1.6 sport soon, I'll let you guys know how it goes with the live wire placement, whether it's on the right hand side or not. Great info btw!

iwaldo

Would a dremmel 3000 be powerful enough for cutting the bumper holes? 

GSM

Would a dremmel 3000 be powerful enough for cutting the bumper holes? 


Bumper is just pretty thin plastic... an ASDA Smart Price drill will do the job.

I take it your kit came with the necessary drill piece?

iwaldo

Haha fair enough :P Yeah it did, I bought this kit - http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B005IZ55TI/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

Was only £8.99 so hopefully cheap and cheerful, not quite sure where I'm going to mount the distance display unit yet though.

Preee

Haha fair enough :P Yeah it did, I bought this kit - http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B005IZ55TI/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

Was only £8.99 so hopefully cheap and cheerful, not quite sure where I'm going to mount the distance display unit yet though.

Make sure you don't slip with the Drill :) , nowhere on the dash  , thats why i place the display by the mirror

iwaldo

I'll try Preee! Yeah the mirror would be good but I have the crescent shaped unit. So I would have to actually stick it to the top of the mirror I guess?

 

Also would these scotchlocks do? I haven't soldered in years and I was never very good at it then haha

 

http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/crimp-butt-splice-terminals/1017582/

GSM

I'll try Preee! Yeah the mirror would be good but I have the crescent shaped unit. So I would have to actually stick it to the top of the mirror I guess?

 

Also would these scotchlocks do? I haven't soldered in years and I was never very good at it then haha

 

http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/crimp-butt-splice-terminals/1017582/


I'd suggest buying a set of crimping connectors and a crimping tool. Much better alternative to soldering than scotch locks imo.

Provide stronger more reliable connections, less likely to break than scotch locks, and won't destroy your wires. Some poorly manufactured scotch locks cut your wires in half eventually.

iwaldo

Ah good idea, how would I go about crimping the 3 wires together though? I assume I would have to snip the reverse power wire, bare the two ends, crimp them and crimp the power wire for the sensor box, whats the best way of connecting them all afterwards?

 

Or could I snip the reverse power wire and crimp them into the 1 connector?

GSM

Ah good idea, how would I go about crimping the 3 wires together though? I assume I would have to snip the reverse power wire, bare the two ends, crimp them and crimp the power wire for the sensor box, whats the best way of connecting them all afterwards?

 

Or could I snip the reverse power wire and crimp them into the 1 connector?


If you get a decent bag/box of assorted crimp connectors you should find that there's a 3-way connector type in there. Can get them pretty cheap from Maplin with a crimping tool included.

So yeah, you'd have to snip the reverse wire and then crimp both ends into the 3-way connector along with the live wire for the sensor.

But if you can't get a 3 way connector then just shove two wires into one side of a normal two-way connector and the other wire into the other side. 

Doesn't really matter as long as they're all securely connected.

iwaldo

Thanks for the info!

 

Also I seen you said about the earth point being on the left hand side of the car while the reverse power lead comes up on the right of the MK2 models, so should I just split the black and red power lead and have the box in the middle? Thanks again!

GSM

Thanks for the info!

 

Also I seen you said about the earth point being on the left hand side of the car while the reverse power lead comes up on the right of the MK2 models, so should I just split the black and red power lead and have the box in the middle? Thanks again!


Don't think it's the case with all MK2s, but it is with the Ghia - a few people have mentioned a few minor design differences/component locations/wire colours for the Ghia compared to other models.

With the sport you should be fine to follow the original guide. But I might be wrong.

If you do find that the live is on the right and the earth is on the left like mine, then you could house it in the middle and split the wires (like I did), or you could just use the earth wire from the reverse light. Just means more cutting and crimping of wires, rather than having the convenience of a nice earth point.

iwaldo

Ah well I'll let you know about the placement then, but thanks again for all the help :)

jeebowhite

I recently bought myself a set of sensors, and the seller is from another country, so communication is difficult... I have asked him how you secure the sensors in place, and that seems to be a far too difficult question to comprehend.

 

So how did you guys secure your sensors in your bumper? did they just wedge in, almost impossible to remove, or did you need to secure with some adhesive?

Preee
The sensors I had , had foam strips in about three places that when pushed in. Held the sensor in place I would not glue them incase they needed replacing
GSM

Mine had 3/4 rubber wedges embedded around the circumference of each sensor - so providing the hole you drill is snug, they will keep them in place indefinitely.

No need to glue them.

jeebowhite
Thanks guys just double checked my sensors and they seem to have four foamy rubbery strips at 12,3,6 and 9 o clock position so hopefully this should just wedge in. Now the hard part begins of where to drill the holes... Can anyone confirm green and yellow is the correct wire on a cmax?

I just ordered a solder kit and heat wrap as I keep reading horrible things about Scotch locks...
GSM

Thanks guys just double checked my sensors and they seem to have four foamy rubbery strips at 12,3,6 and 9 o clock position so hopefully this should just wedge in. Now the hard part begins of where to drill the holes... Can anyone confirm green and yellow is the correct wire on a cmax?

I just ordered a solder kit and heat wrap as I keep reading horrible things about Scotch locks...


Trace the wire and see if it heads to your reverse bulb, only way to be sure without ripping the wire open and testing it.

As I said a few posts ago, I would actually recommend using crimp connectors and a crimping tool as opposed to soldering or scotch locks. Unless you're a soldering efficianado which you're probably not if you've only just bought yourself a soldering kit. Soldering can be tricky, especially having to do it in the boot of a car instead of on a nice working bench, and it takes a bit of practice and skill to get any good and making strong, robust, reliable connections that you won't have to re-do in 6 weeks. 

Crimp connectors are easy as pie, safer and more reliable than scotch locks, but requiring nowhere near the skill level of soldering for a good robust connection.

jeebowhite
Thanks again for the reply, are you able to provide any appropriate links to what would be th correct kit that I need?

I have some previous experience of soldering but not has my own kit. Also once the cable goes into the connector, how would I identify that it's then heading to the reverse lights? I suppose I would need a multimeter?
Stoney871

I use a kit just like this, inexpensive and easy to use.

Crimper, wire stripper/cutter, plenty of various sized crimps/bayonet connectors/ bullet connectors and easy to top up from your local DIY store when needed.

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/48PC-CRIMPING-CABLE-STRIPPING-AUTO-PLIER-SET-/111001872679?pt=UK_Hand_Tools_Equipment&hash=item19d83a2927

Preee

If your going to be soldering on a vehicle  , your best using a Gas soldering gun , mine is an Iroda brought from maplins , it is fantastic , i also have 2x electric and a large soldering gun for the big jobs.

But for me gas all the way :)

jeebowhite

Cheers guys, will have to see how it goes... Still need to find a way to confirm the wire is definately reverse, preferably without stripping it on the offchance and connecting it up, but might just have to do that anyway!

alkyz89

just a quick one has anyone bought the cheaper £8 sets in silver... just wondering if its a good match?? dont realy want to have to paint them myself but at the same time i dont fancy paying £40 odd quid for a definate colour match if they are the same as the cheaper sets

johnson293

Found my way to this forum via a Google search about fitting rear parking sensors to my new Focus, and found this brilliant guide.

 

Subsequently, I've just ordered a silver rear sensor kit from Amazon for £15.

 

Just bought my Focus Titanium, and it has most of the 'toys' except for the rear sensors. Didn't realise it was a relatively straight forward job to fit them, and its given me the confidence to sort it.

 

Cheers Preee.  :)

Preee

Found my way to this forum via a Google search about fitting rear parking sensors to my new Focus, and found this brilliant guide.

 

Subsequently, I've just ordered a silver rear sensor kit from Amazon for £15.

 

Just bought my Focus Titanium, and it has most of the 'toys' except for the rear sensors. Didn't realise it was a relatively straight forward job to fit them, and its given me the confidence to sort it.

 

Cheers Preee.  :)

Your welcome Marc , and welcome to the forums

jeebowhite

I forgot to update this thread...

 

When I did my reverse sensors, I snipped the Orange / Green cable and then took a heatshrink butt connector, and just wired the positive into this feed, and then crushed them together, then loosened the earth nut, and placed the negative cable into there and locked it back up.

 

Was a very easy job to do, and only cost me £16.00

johnson293

Had my sensors fitted today, by my dad as he had the time to do it, while I was at work.  ;)

 

The kit I ordered was from Amazon for £12.99 + £2 delivery, but they are now down to £9.99 + delivery.

 

Its just a beeper kit, without any display, as that's all I wanted. The colour of the sensors was also a very good match for the Moondust Silver.

 

The beeper unit isn't as loud as I though to would be, even on the 'Hi' setting, but its currently behind the carpet trim in the boot, so I may relocate it so it can be heard better.

 

But anyone thinking of getting one of these kits, I'd recommend it, and check out the guide by Preee on the first page, which shows how straight forward the install job is.

 

MJ  B)

alkyz89

finally fitted my sensors yesterday...

 

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Managed to find genuine ford moondust silver, for £35

very pleased!!!

Preee

Great Job Aaron

alkyz89

cheers paul, great guide might i add!! i kinda knew what i was doing as ive done the twin reverse light mod, so didnt realy use the guide but browsed through it before and its very informative.

theduke

Thanks for the guide done mine tonight took about 1/2 hr  :)

 

Colours not quite right but will look better when its clean i hope

 

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jeebowhite

Hi James

 

A good job there! I like you got a "near match" and to be honest they arent too bad, but as you say, with a bit of polish on the car, you shouldn't really notice!

sonic113
Hi I'm new to this ford forum so I apologise before hand for any mistakes lol! This guide is really good and looks really helpful. I'm going to get a set of parking sensors for my mk 2.5 focus of eBay and install them using this guide as a help. I was wondering as I have saw different sets with 4,6 and 8 sensors, does anybody have front sensors on their mk2.5 focus? And if not are they really needed or are the back ones enough? I can park OK but just want to add p sensors as a small mod as my father in law has them on his new cmax and also I like the displays that come with them. Also will help the wife when parking so a winner all round. Lol!
Thanks.
minnis

Hi I'm new to this ford forum so I apologise before hand for any mistakes lol! This guide is really good and looks really helpful. I'm going to get a set of parking sensors for my mk 2.5 focus of eBay and install them using this guide as a help. I was wondering as I have saw different sets with 4,6 and 8 sensors, does anybody have front sensors on their mk2.5 focus? And if not are they really needed or are the back ones enough? I can park OK but just want to add p sensors as a small mod as my father in law has them on his new cmax and also I like the displays that come with them. Also will help the wife when parking so a winner all round. Lol!
Thanks.

 

The rear's will be easy to fit. The fronts would come in very handy for parking, but not as necessary as rear's IMO. I'm currently fitting sensors to my girlfriends Honda Jazz. The rears were easy, but I'm having a major problem with the fronts. With the back, there was no need to take the bumper off, however access to behind the front bumper is non-existent so I will have to take the front bumper off. Also, routing the wires from the sensors to the control box at the rear of the car will be a big job too. Since you can park alright anyway, I would recommend just going for the rear sensors TBH.

sonic113
Thanks for reply. I though adding fronts would be a lot harder and since the rear is the most blind spot I think I will just install rear ones. I'm looking at getting ones from eBay the same kit preee used in his guide. Has any used these and what's reliability like. They seem to get decent enough reviews so hopefully should be grand.
Preee

Thanks for reply. I though adding fronts would be a lot harder and since the rear is the most blind spot I think I will just install rear ones. I'm looking at getting ones from eBay the same kit preee used in his guide. Has any used these and what's reliability like. They seem to get decent enough reviews so hopefully should be grand.

The set always worked first time and every time , they were very reliable.

sonic113
Thank for replies. I'm ordering them tonight and Going to fit this week. I will post pictures to let you all see how I get on. Also Paul if I was to add a switch for the front how could I get one to fit in a spare space beside the front and rear window heater switches. As it would be tricky to run sensors from front to rear control box I might get a set with display and install using Paul's guide then later down the line get another set with just buzzer for front and install switch for that one so reverse activates rears and switch activities fronts. Maybe a bit excessive but any ideas how to get the one set to activate in reverse but keep a separate switch for front ones?
Thanks
Preee

You could add a switch for the front easily enough , all it would have to do is control the power , as you would not want them going off if you were in slow moving traffic as it would drive you mad.You could fit a switch into one of the existing blanks or a switch in the chubby by the OBD port if you wanted it out of the way.

sonic113
Do you think then I would be better of installing rear set that's activated with reverse as I like the reverse switch idea. Then later on add another set for front with buzzer and connect to a constant 12v live but add a switch on the power line. I like the idea when reversing the rear sensors start with display automatically and switch off when out of reverse gear. As I said before the rear wud be more important as its more blinded at the back when reversing. The front I don't really need but sometimes the wife (OK I admit myself as well rarely though lol!) Would park front ways and think I'm closer to wall than I am only to look and see I need to move slightly forward again lol! As I said rarely this happens so it might be make more sense to just stick with the rear sensors. Has any one with a mk 2.5 focus installed front as well here? Also I know the mk3 has front but I think this is to assist with self park or maybe I'm wrong. Not quite sure.


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