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btmaldon
I am so glad I didn't buy the Mk3 last April. They wanted £16,300 for the 1.6 Edge at the time, so I bought a Mk2.5 Sport for £12,900 instead.

Now the Edge is under £12k and the Zetec is £13.6k. I would have been gutted to lose that much value on top of normal depreciation.

Here is the add:
[url="http://www.lookers.co.uk/ford/offers"]http://www.lookers.co.uk/ford/offers[/url]
artscot79
the new focus hasnt done as well as ford thought it would for a lot of reasons the economy for one and the price giving you can get more reliable makes with good spec and 5-7 year warranties for a few grand less. i saw a mondeo titanium x in the showroom for 31,000 for a ford i dont think so but theyre you go
tomo2001
Seems like a lot of manufacturers have implemented price increases. I had a Civic before the Focus which cost £19.5k. Equivalent spec New Civic is £23k (3 yrs later).
artscot79
i believe they call it rip off britain lol :unsure:
catch
[quote name='btmaldon' timestamp='1331131780' post='171141']
I am so glad I didn't buy the Mk3 last April. They wanted £16,300 for the 1.6 Edge at the time, so I bought a Mk2.5 Sport for £12,900 instead.

Now the Edge is under £12k and the Zetec is £13.6k. I would have been gutted to lose that much value on top of normal depreciation.

Here is the add:
[url="http://www.lookers.co.uk/ford/offers"]http://www.lookers.co.uk/ford/offers[/url]
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To confirm the above is a dealership wide effort to shift stock:

In the two years four months since I bought my second hand Mk2 Focus from a semi local Ford Dealership, I've never had a text message from them.

Well last week I did, it was as expected a brief message.

[b]New Fords @ Cost Price

Buy Now !! No Repayments for 3 Mths-
Grab yourself a 12 Plate Bargain today at
Dews Ford No Deposit Required

Call Us 01422 301000[/b]

For all its pre launch hype as a "World Car" it is obvious to all but the blind, that here in the UK the Mk3 Focus has not been received with the same enthusiasm as the mould breaking Mk1 Focus and even it's blander but nonetheless technically better and roomier Mk2 version.

Personally, it looks to Asian to me, also the Mk2/2.5 sat nicely in-between the Fiesta Town Car and the ever bigger every model upgraded Mondeo in the executive car sector [ nodoubt a reflection of car manufactures acknowledging UK society is heading towards USA levels of obesity]

The Focus filled the "one car family" remit in that it was not only fun to drive, but it was spacious [ especially width wise ] it could seat five in reasonable comfort, and had a decent boot. That once the back seats were let down it could take an assembled Ikea kitchen table and four chairs. You could say now it's just a Fiesta that has been fed on steroids, but unfortunately in this instance it's bum ain't as big as the Mk2.5

The differences that made the Focus brand stand out are not there now as far as I'm concerned, and disappointing sales figures would suggest I'm not alone in thinking that.

It now has the look of one of the many Asian styled cars out there. And if that is not a turn off as a buyer, then why not buy a decent spec'ed Cia Ceed with a seven years peace of mind warranty

rant over :ph34r:
Sara Fiesta
Typical I bought mine a month ago and now they drop the price!!!!!!!!
catch
[quote name='Sara Fiesta' timestamp='1331197847' post='171332']
Typical I bought mine a month ago and now they drop the price!!!!!!!!
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Yes they certainly saw you coming Sara. Coincidently at the time you informed the board of you intended purchase I all but stated as much. In that I could not understand the logic of you contemplating trading in your late model Mk2.5 for the Mk3, other than you took the advise of a guy who has a vested interest in shifting new cars over that of people on your side here on the forum.

But as they say ....................you can lead a horse to water but...................
cuke
Hi, I brought my car in sept for £17k so I'm not complaining, however It is common for the price of a car to drop a year after they have first come out anyway. But we are talking discounted dealership figures not what ford state as I think they've not changed..
Chris
tomo2001
Also if you look back over a number of years, Ford dealerships have always offered big discounts - normally by pricing high in the first place.
Sara Fiesta
Hang on guys that's 13600 for the petrol zetec version, now mines the 1.6tdci 115 zetec with zetec appearance pack, city pack, sat navigation pack, met paint and mines also got alround electric windows.
Sara Fiesta
[quote name='catch' timestamp='1331199417' post='171344']


Yes they certainly saw you coming Sara. Coincidently at the time you informed the board of you intended purchase I all but stated as much. In that I could not understand the logic of you contemplating trading in your late model Mk2.5 for the Mk3, other than you took the advise of a guy who has a vested interest in shifting new cars over that of people on your side here on the forum.

But as they say ....................you can lead a horse to water but...................
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Yes I remember but it broken down 4 times with engine malfunction light within a year, I had to be recovered 2 times I was late for work on the 4 occasion and the boss wasn't very understanding! ford said they'd fixed it but it was happening again so I wanted rid of it I couldn't trust the car anymore my journey to work is 70 miles, I need something reliable!
catch
Now you have explained the circumstances in detail regards your boss's attitude to your car problems, I see your predicament Sara. Never a good time to make buying decisions when under such duress.

Anyway I take it your happy with the car in it's self.

Premium prices on new models followed by discounting is as another poster pointed out par for the course. Once the "must have the latest " demand has been sated, discounting is used to maintain sales momentum.
cuke
[quote name='Sara Fiesta' timestamp='1331201121' post='171353']
Hang on guys 13600 for the petrol zetec version, mines the 1.6tdci 115 zetec with zetec appearance pack, city pack, sat navigation pack, met paint and mines also got alround electric windows.
[/quote]

Hi, you got a good price there Sarah, personally I wouldn't be seen dead in any asian offering..
Chris
tomo2001
[quote name='cuke' timestamp='1331202993' post='171365']
Hi, you got a good price there Sarah, personally I wouldn't be seen dead in any asian offering..
Chris
[/quote]

Did Sarah get that price or is that the price mentioned at Lookers in the earlier post ?
Sara Fiesta
[quote name='tomo2001' timestamp='1331203429' post='171369']


Did Sarah get that price or is that the price mentioned at Lookers in the earlier post ?
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I haggled I paid under 15K for my car, I thought this was very good price.
artscot79
the focus is and will be overtaken by these asian cars and its a simple equation. 7 year warranty extremely well built and quality checked not like the focus will faulty stop starts dodgy keyless entry poor fitting doors et,c some people do not want to spend a lot of cash to have these silly faults.it doesnt show faith that fors still offer only 3 years warranty way behind even cheverolet who offer 5years in this economy its what people want.. cheap reliable with low running costs and peace of mind. i have no issues saying my next car will not be a ford due to theyre rubbish dealers rip off prices even for parts the silly faults that they including the new foci that was so well tested allegedly have and the fact the galvanised bodies rust like old bean tins
catch
Though I do say it myself :rolleyes:

I do appear to have the knack of invigorating debate on threads that are not attracting the attention they deserve

Now whilst I don't think anybody has taken any personal offence in my writing style on this thread, maybe now is the time to up date my sig........to explain same..........so watch that space :D
Sara Fiesta
[quote name='catch' timestamp='1331202764' post='171363']
Now you have explained the circumstances in detail regards your boss's attitude to your car problems, I see your predicament Sara. Never a good time to make buying decisions when under such duress.

Anyway I take it your happy with the car in it's self.

Premium prices on new models followed by discounting is as another poster pointed out par for the course. Once the "must have the latest " demand has been sated, discounting is used to maintain sales momentum.
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Yeah I'm happy, I would of kept the other one if it wasn't for all the problems I experienced, I'm not technically minded and the warranty was about to run out, I was losing sleep over the dam thing I had vision of massive ford bills and constant trips to ford!
tomo2001
[quote name='artscot79' timestamp='1331204344' post='171374']
the focus is and will be overtaken by these asian cars and its a simple equation. 7 year warranty extremely well built and quality checked not like the focus will faulty stop starts dodgy keyless entry poor fitting doors et,c some people do not want to spend a lot of cash to have these silly faults.it doesnt show faith that fors still offer only 3 years warranty way behind even cheverolet who offer 5years in this economy its what people want.. cheap reliable with low running costs and peace of mind. i have no issues saying my next car will not be a ford due to theyre rubbish dealers rip off prices even for parts the silly faults that they including the new foci that was so well tested allegedly have and the fact the galvanised bodies rust like old bean tins
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The faults you list are not just particular to Ford. Try looking at Stop/Start problems on BMW / MINI forums - their a lot worse off than us lot. These 'modern features' are supplied by third parties and integrated into a mfr's own products so faults are similar across different suppliers.
artscot79
they are not just ford and im not saying they are i just meant that a lot of issues are down to build quality and ford may benefit from say toyotas attitude dont make as many cars and spend more time making sure thwy are right before they leave the factory.

i see sarah when you start losing sleep over a car its time for the car to go so ide have been the same
Sara Fiesta
[quote name='artscot79' timestamp='1331209878' post='171393']
they are not just ford and im not saying they are i just meant that a lot of issues are down to build quality and ford may benefit from say toyotas attitude dont make as many cars and spend more time making sure thwy are right before they leave the factory.

i see sarah when you start losing sleep over a car its time for the car to go so ide have been the same
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And my not very understanding boss although ok the first time but 4 times it was wearing thin.
jimrex
Also, you always go for the best deal you can at the time of purchase... you would probably haggle with the dealer and maybe even shop around (I bought mine from a dealer in Leeds despite living in Cambridge).

A better deal will always come along later, that's just life!
NorthSussex
[color=#0000ff][size=5][font=comic sans ms,cursive]In the past I have had numerous new company cars, sometimes replaced every 6 months, I would put 10,000 miles on the car and also have to sort out all the new build faults under warranty, only to then pass a well-sorted car on to the next owner.[/font][/size][/color]

[color=#0000FF][size=5][font=comic sans ms,cursive]Now I run my own car, and always buy a low mileage 2-3 year old car that has had all the problems sorted by the first owner, it's also lost a fair chunk of depreciation[/font][/size][/color].
jeebowhite
I stand by my comment, the Cee'd is the Focus with a different badge. Granted I wish it had a bigger boot, but all in all, aside a few inches shorter, and thinner, I stand by the fact that I often forget that I am driving the korean counterpart.

Given half a chance, I would trade this in for a new one, and would personally make the effort to go for an SW, or consider the likes of hyundai i40, against the Kia Optima.

As a reasonably priced car, its worth the investment, and has already saved me money... (oooh.. update to my Au-revoir Focus thread me thinks...)

The MK3 is a nice looking car, but as Catch said, I think its dimensions just let it down that little bit too much, to allow most people easy response to the question "Mk2.5 or Mk3?"
artscot79
having the mk2 and seeing the 2.5 still has issues that the mk2 had which were the same issues the mk1.5 had and the same as the mk1 given the honest choice............ neither ide opt for a kia or hyundai most likely the kia.

ive had an escort mk2 ans mk3 a fiesta the first mondeo the mk1 focus and now an 06 mk2 in between ive had seat cordoba and ibiza vw passat 20v a fiat punto and an old 95 hyundai accent the most reliable and cheapest to run of them all was the hyundai a battery in 4 years that was it.
jeebowhite
The fact that the same bugs were there through 4 generations of the Focus, is the only reason I walked away from Ford. had the problems not come back each time, I would have trusted that maybe I was a one off, but IMHO, Ford still havent learned that because you make a car look prettier, the makeup doesnt hide the scars underneath!


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