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Haz93
Hi All

This is my first topic on the forum, would be open to any advice :)

I Have recently purchased a set of Bi Xenon Headlights, which I hope will replace my halogen headlights.

I currently have the OEM Bi Xenon Headlights without any bulbs, but with (I think) all the wires, as shown below:

[img]http://i1048.photobucket.com/albums/s380/haz933/IMG_0336-1.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i1048.photobucket.com/albums/s380/haz933/IMG_0339-1.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i1048.photobucket.com/albums/s380/haz933/IMG_0341-1.jpg[/img]

There are some parts that I will need to complete the project:[list]
[*]Osram D1s Xenaelectron Ballast
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[*]Osram D1s Xenarc Bulbs
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Any advice on locating the parts will be welcome

I plan on using the elm327 cable and Ff2 Program, as shown in Preee's guide, to activate the headlights and washers if possible.

This project will probably encorperate retrofit of the headlight washers too. :D
Lenny
Hi mate,
nice job on the headlights they look great,

were your origonal headlights the black type or the silver type, because im looking to purchase a set of the black type headlights for my mk2.5
salsheikh
Haz, seen some genuine ballasts on ebay: [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Focus-MK2-ST-Xenon-Headlight-Ballast-Control-Unit-Power-Packs-/230768546292?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item35bae091f4"]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Focus-MK2-ST-Xenon-Headlight-Ballast-Control-Unit-Power-Packs-/230768546292?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item35bae091f4[/url]

might be of use to you.
Haz93
Lenny,

My original headlights are the black ones, I maybe willing to sell them on, but not until I've got this project finished. I'm still considering keeping them afterwards in case I need to refit them at any time.

Sal,

Thanks for the link, but I'm trying to find the original rounded square shape ones, as I believe (after some research) they will be 'plug and play'.

[img]http://www.lighting-gallery.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11060/normal_focus_ballast.JPG[/img]
Lenny
[quote name='Haz93' timestamp='1333134824' post='175221']
Lenny,

My original headlights are the black ones, I maybe willing to sell them on, but not until I've got this project finished. I'm still considering keeping them afterwards in case I need to refit them at any time.
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Cheers mate,
to be honest if i was you id keep them as a spare set too,
i can pick up a set on ebay no probs, look foward to seeing the results on this one mate, B)
Haz93
Okay so I have some more pics of the wiring on my car and also the fuse box.

Could do with some help from someone with a little more knowledge on electrical systems.[list]
[*]Does anyone know if the wiring in the pictures will allow for 'plug and play' connection??
[*]I guess I need new relays for the headlights, any idea which ones I will need??
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Lenny
maybe ask the seller of the units,
if he still has the focus he removed them from, and if he has could he take a picture of the engine fuse box for you,
then compare the fuses to yours to see what matches up and what is different mate,
may be worth a try.
salsheikh
Haz, you may wanna visit a scrapyard that maybe has a focus with th lights or go to a meet and see with other focus owners have on there cars.
Julz
Hi there guys I have a mk2.5 focus
I just bought a pair of xenons off a 2010 st exact fit (has da ballast n bulb fitted)
Plugged it on everything works but the xenon lol

Been to a few electricians (car audio security places) and they ain't got a clue lol

I have da old wiring loom cut off from the st
It has 3 extra wires than mine on it
They Want to know what they are b4 starting work on it as they r scared if anything happens
As da lights r really expensive Lol

Basically I need help gettin this to work
please some 1 lol
MrGrumpy
Theres a video on youtube on how to do it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0Yk_QUS0TU&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Haz93
Any chance you could post some pics of the wiring you have already and what you plan to add on?
Just to get a better idea for what you mean
Thanks
MrGrumpy
Not from me, i randomly found that video yesterday.

Sorry
jgriff
Julz- in order to get the xenons to work you need an extra earth wire in port 8 on the plug on your wiring loom and it will work. I fitted them to mine and had to do this little mod to get them lighting.

Hope this helps
Julz
[quote name='MrGrumpy' timestamp='1338588826' post='185128']
Not from me, i randomly found that video yesterday.

Sorry
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Julz
I saw that he wasn't much help
It don't show the main bits
Julz
[quote name='jgriff' timestamp='1338590578' post='185131']
Julz- in order to get the xenons to work you need an extra earth wire in port 8 on the plug on your wiring loom and it will work. I fitted them to mine and had to do this little mod to get them lighting.

Hope this helps
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If this works I owe u a big drink my friend
Haz93
Not sure if everyones is the same but my connector has all 10 ports already wired up. Have not tried the lights yet as I have no bulbs or ballast
Hope to buy this soon
http://item.mobileweb.ebay.co.uk/viewitem?itemId=170764918889&index=2&nav=WATCHING&nid=12406953563
Then will try this. Does it not need any fuses or relays to work then? Just the extra earth wire?
jgriff
It should work, it did for me. You can either tap into the earth wire on the loom which i think is the brown wire or do what i did and just earth it off the bodywork, which leaves it easy if you ever decide to change back and your loom is intact.

The xenons need two earths to work but if you just plug it in as is, all lights will work except the xenons. I've also since fitting fitted 8000k bulbs which looks really good
renz2012
can you add a link to the guide your using I might try this to mine
Haz93
Okay so not got anywhere with this as I got bored looking. Now found two options I could go with:

Cheaper retrofit kit from Canada
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/170764918889?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#ht_9696wt_807

Or OEM set to fit as shown earlier in thread from America
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/400193059992?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#ht_4600wt_1026

Any ideas which one to go for??
Haz93
Okay so a little :D update on this project

I got it all working !!!

Haha excitement over.

I purchased a set of Osram D3S ballasts with wiring from the american seller in the previous post and some cheap 6000k D3S bulbs. Got it all fitted and wired up using the standard ballast connector inside the headlight and nothing!! Then I realised the D3S ballast as 3 pins. Pos neg and earth. The standard D1S ballast has no earth just pos and neg. However a 3pin connector came with the ballasts so just connected the 3 wires and Success!!!!!!!! If I had not had the ballast and bulb issue the headlights would be plug and play, as no extra wiring was required to the actuall headlight unit connector. As mentioned before my loom already had all 10 pins wired up.

Will get some pics up soon :D
MrGrumpy
We want pics :D
Haz93
Haha sorry to keep you waiting :P

Okay so as they were when purchased :






Bulbs and ballast fitted




Halogen and Bi Xenon comparison



Testing before fitting in properly



Fitted in and ready :P




beam pattern and nice window reflection lol




Nice one to finish

.Ryan
They look sweet!
jgriff
Nice work there fella, glad you finally got it sorted
Haz93
Thanks guys :) has taken a while but defo worth it.
Did you notice the headlights seem a bit low when you put yours on??

Have you got any levelling on them, auto or manual??
MrGrumpy
Looks good! I was gonna ask for a picture of your headlight loom connector, to see if I have the required wiring, but I think yours will be different being a 2.5.

Anyone done this on a mk2?
jgriff
I thought they seemed low but got a mechanic to set them properly and he set they were off by very little. I don't have any levelling adjustment on them at all
artscot79
by the picture of the light on the house they look very low compared to standard it could be the way the pictures been taken but they dont look like they light much up
Haz93
[quote name='MrGrumpy' timestamp='1344125415' post='198913']
Looks good! I was gonna ask for a picture of your headlight loom connector, to see if I have the required wiring, but I think yours will be different being a 2.5.

Anyone done this on a mk2?
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The connectors may be a different shape but they will have the same wiring, by looking in the Haynes manual they do look a very similar shape to me. But not sure if the one the manual is a mk2 or facelift

If your connector has all 10 pins wired up it will be a straight forward plug and play, if not then wiring an earth wire is required as mentioned before
chris mitchell
[quote name='jgriff' timestamp='1344166204' post='198965']
I thought they seemed low but got a mechanic to set them properly and he set they were off by very little. I don't have any levelling adjustment on them at all
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How about if you wire the manual headlight adjustment thats on the headlight switch to the electronic adjustment motor on the headlight unit?
jgriff
That could work but it wouldnt be any good with electrics
Haz93
Need some help please
Anyone know where the headlight levelling control module is located?? I have one on order from the bay but need to know where it plugs into
RB2004
You cannot retrofit Xenons successfully.

Engine Bay loom, on some models.. first 3 months of production had the full engine bay loom which supported Xenons, Washer fluid level sensor, and washers etc.. the works. So should have sensor wiring for the front if I can remember that is probably on the engine bay loom. IF you have the top end loom.

but ford cheapened up, and only started using this loom where required after, and had cheaper looms made for the non xenon models... you can get them working with wiring mods, but never properly because....

There is 2 of every loom listed for the dashboard, a xenon/adaptive headlamp version and a halogen version, so even if you have all the wiring in the engine bay you wont have the wiring behind the dashboard... so there will be no sensor wiring from the GEM to the module, and no connectors for the module.

its normally connected behind drivers footwell kick panel to the module which is bolted to the door pillar, but a non xenon loom wont even have a connector for it. because going back there was 2 of each different loom a halogen and xenon loom.

No car was made with a xenon loom behind the dash unless it was spec'd with xenon / adaptive head lamps because the reason for 2 different looms is because having xenon loom wiring without a module plugged in probably creates all sorts of CANBUS communication errors because wiring probably goes into module, out the other side and onto next thing.

Then for the rear sensor, will have to double check that but if i can remember was either a separate xenon floor loom or a jumper loom that plugs into main loom.. same jumper loom as used for the diesel additive module etc but with some extra wires for the rear levelling sensor.
Geo2009
Hi,

Im having ago at fitting Xenon headlights to my Focus CC. Iv'e got the Xenon lamps to light and Im now trying to work out what I need to do to make the leveling motors to work.

Does anyone know what signals/voltages the motors need to function and what pins on the headlamp connector they are feed into?

With a bit of elimination I think pin 7 is (-ve) ground, pin 10 is (+ve) 12v but I can't work out what the other two pins, pins 5 & 9 require.
Strangely I found that pin 5 is low resistance (0.6 ohms) to pin 7 and pin 9 is low resistance (0.6 ohms) to pin 10??

On the halogen headlamps pin 7 is -ve, pin 9 is the signal (0.6v to 12v) from the thumb wheel dash adjuster and the +ve for the motor comes from pin 2 inside the headlamp.

If I can find out what the motors need to move then it should be possible to make a circuit to do it manually.

Any help would be greatfully received.

Geo.
Haz93
Hi mate

The motors that the xenon units use are completely different to the manual motors. To make this work you would have to change the motors for the halogen ones.

I have just sold my focus so will be selling the parts I have. I have the auto levelling headlight switch and also the auto levelling control module which is mounted up behind the dash near the A pillar. All you would need then is the levelling sensors and to program the GEM to accept the auto levelling system.
Brigante
you've sold it??

when that happen mate?
salsheikh
[quote name='Brigante' timestamp='1361743104' post='238652']
you've sold it??

when that happen mate?
[/quote]
this, Haz whats going on matey?
Geo2009

Hi, 

Yup after a bit of investigation I have found that the motors in the xenons are 2 phase stepper motors which explains the 4 wires and the motors in the Halogens are servo motors so only 3 wires.

So as my car doesn't have the wiring for the stepper motors then its either make a driving circuit board to run the stepper motors or get some manual type servo motors and fit them into the xenon headlights.

 

So Haz do you have a set of manual motors for sale??

 

Geo.

Gazamoato
Hi guys, I know this is an old topic now but could do with point in the right direction.

So I've bought a set of xenons off a RS to put on my 56 plate tdci my connector has 7 pins the xenons have 10

Is it still a case of adding an additional earth wire or has it evolved any ? Would any fuses need to be upgraded

If just the case of adding the earth wire would appreciate it if some one could explain to me in lay men's terms how to go about it. As I don't want to damage anything and leave myself with no lights

Thanks

Gaz
gforce

Hi mate, I'm not sure on the earth but just a quick question about the lights you've sourced...the RS was only available in the Mk2.5 facelift (from 09 I think), but surely your 56 plate is a Mk2 pre-facelift. Do you mean you got them from a pre-facelift ST? Or have you facelifted your front end maybe?

 

Not meaning to be pedantic, but just checking that you've sourced the right lights as the RS ones wouldn't fit your pre-facelift as they're completely different shape. Just a heads up in case you don't have them in your possession yet as it would be a nasty surprise when they did arrive.

artscot79
This may be a possible mod after checking the headlight plug i have all 10 pins with wires
Gazamoato
Oh yeah an st my bad :(
gforce

Ah right, that's no worries mate, I was just worried in case you'd mistakenly ordered them or something and were gonna have a major disappointment on your hands when they arrived!

 

Should fit fine then if you get the wiring sorted. Luckily for me I have the fully populated 10pin loom plug so mine were plug and play, straight swap.

Gazamoato
Yeah I've had them in but no working xenon. So just the wiring I'm struggling with at the moment :( I'm gonna go out to the car and see what happens. ( ill keep my I pad on if anyone has any key advise ) :)
Gazamoato

Julz- in order to get the xenons to work you need an extra earth wire in port 8 on the plug on your wiring loom and it will work. I fitted them to mine and had to do this little mod to get them lighting.

Hope this helps


Hi how do you go about putting the earth wire on and where from?
jgriff
I just fed a wire into the port and you can either splice into the earth wire or do what I did and earth it off the body, leaving the loom intact if you ever remove them


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