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jordan_macgregor
Went to put £25 in the tank to tide me over to payday....didnt even give me a half tank, thats because it was 138p/litre...how is this justifiable?

63.7p/litre of petrol of what we pay is TAX!
top banana
£1.389 for a litre of unleaded.............. its £1.409 - £1.429 here and Diesel £1.469 - £1.489 around here in Slough!!
ijustwantafile
It's madness. I was watching how much litres I was putting in rather than price the yesterday and was sad how much actually goes in for the price.
jeebowhite
Yeah, its peeving me now, well and truely. We appeal it through Fair Fuel UK, only to find that the tax man are still being greedy ......

Its not as bad in summer, as the cars are warmer, and more efficient, but when the winter comes thats when it really bites harder as its less efficient, and more tanks to top up.

I seriously am fed up, but since I need my car for work, and I cant afford to a) replace it, B) replace it with an "economical vehicle" or c) replace it for an electric car, it kind of leaves you feeling like you have been twisted by the screwdriver a few too many times!

So the option is, either pay the tax, rediculous costs, and work, or jack in your job so that you dont need a car, and get rid. Or alternatively "find a job closer to home"! its these scenario's and answers that the government of today show that NONE of them (none of these parties care, wether present or shadow, as they all grabbed and twisted us by the genetalia!) have a clue, are in touch with reality, or actually want to see the country recover and have a happy community.

I genuinely think that the London Riots of last summer are but a snapshot of the way this country will end up, as we all realise more and more that the government is taking the mick! (for pete's sake... the "pasty tax" is the perfect example!!!!)

Amyway, I wonder how long it will be before the 5th of November repeats itself over and over again!!! this time, it wont just be one guy fawkes, it will be the entire country who all decide to blow there top at the same time....


....sorry guys, I think I have needed to vent that rant for quite some time!!
Stoney871
I think you've been watching V for Vendetta too much. <_<

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volts
Forget the price check out the panic buy queues
jordan_macgregor
[quote name='volts' timestamp='1333033124' post='174953']
Forget the price check out the panic buy queues
[/quote]

The 'panic buying' queues are crazy! David Cameron should be shot for telling people to top up their tanks when a strike hasnt even been announced/organised. Its a disgrace. And to agree further, the Government are beyond taking the piss, i bought my Fiesta 2yrs ago and i thought paying 99.9p/litre was ridiculous - never mind 138.9p/litre.

I also totally agree with everythnig jeebowhite said, andi had to start this topic to have a rant haha.

Would the economy not benefit if the government were to slash the price of fuel - speculate to accumulate?
jimrex
I was running off fumes yesterday and had to fill up. I queued for 20 mins and there were only two pumps, one petrol and one diesel. You would not believe the amount of people sticking a tenner in, just panic buying!

The one cashier was close to tears, and told me people had been shouting at her all day about the lack of fuel, like it was her fault. I genuinely believe most people are actually stupid, government included.

Who are the winners in all this? The supermarkets.
ijustwantafile
[quote name='jimrex' timestamp='1333093594' post='175111']
Who are the winners in all this? The supermarkets.
[/quote]

how are they the winners? they only get a few p profit a litre. they're not the ones who put the price up an extra 5p recently...
If anything they're loosing out. tesco near me has queues all the way out to the main road stopping people getting to the actual store.


I've got just less than half a tank left and need to fill up by Tuesday as I'm doing a 700mile trip next week :( really hope there isn't any queues in my way.
rojariggs
[quote name='jordan_macgregor' timestamp='1333049681' post='175034']
The 'panic buying' queues are crazy! David Cameron should be shot for telling people to top up their tanks when a strike hasnt even been announced/organised. Its a disgrace. And to agree further, the Government are beyond taking the piss[/quote]
It's the stupid people doing the panic buying that are to blame. I saw the same news reports and listened to the same Government announcements about fuel but I haven't gone and started panic buying. You can't blame the Government for the stupidity of the population!
jordan_macgregor
[quote name='jimrex' timestamp='1333093594' post='175111']
Who are the winners in all this? The supermarkets.
[/quote]

Well, yes and no, the supermarkets will benefit fom this, but not as mch as the governement, thats why i blame them, they seen an opportunity to make people believe there was a need to panic buy and make a wee bit extra - knowing that things are allready tighter than a crabs rear, however, i also agree that the population are just as stupid for taking their advice and taking to the pumps asap.
jimrex
[quote name='ijustwantafile' timestamp='1333095692' post='175113']
how are they the winners? they only get a few p profit a litre. they're not the ones who put the price up an extra 5p recently...
If anything they're loosing out. tesco near me has queues all the way out to the main road stopping people getting to the actual store.
[/quote]

Well, I said that because I heard that there is a chance that supermarkets will begin to claim that they can't get their deliveries due to fuel shortages, therefore encouraging people to panic buy food, and hey presto, you will have people queuing on the forecourt and in the aisles, all putting cash straight into the supermarket.

The government are the overall driving factor in all this, but supermarkets are benefitting from it.
kevin lancelott
Our local Esso all sold out.
jordan_macgregor
[quote name='kevin lancelott' timestamp='1333109913' post='175147']
Our local Esso all sold out.
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i need fuel but i'm kind of dreading going out, because how far am i going to have to drive to get some?! Anyone on this sty in fife?
larsonb
In our area we have $2.75 it is increasing day by day
mintalkin
the big winner is the goverment, think how much money has gone into the goverments coffers through tax and VAT just before the end of the finacial year,that will make the books look better!!!
pragmatix
[quote name='jordan_macgregor' timestamp='1333111369' post='175154']
i need fuel but i'm kind of dreading going out, because how far am i going to have to drive to get some?! Anyone on this sty in fife?
[/quote]

Not in Fife, Im up country no probs up here, and I was in Edinburgh today seemed to be no probs there
Stoney871
The panic buying as caused by scaremongering about the inpending strike.
All garages should have normal levels of fuel now.
If you're really stuck with the tank nearly dry then best advice is to get someone to get you a small can of fuel so you can safely get to the forecourt yourself.
Please do make sure that the fuel container is approved and sealed / stored correctly.
Running out of fuel causes many headaches, especially so on a Diesel.
rojariggs
[quote name='Stoney871' timestamp='1333211451' post='175359']
All garages should have normal levels of fuel now.
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All the garages in the town I live in have run out of unleaded. Most still have diesel on some pumps. The Esso is not expecting a delivery of unleaded until Thursday.....
jeebowhite
bleedin government really, I think they created this scare, just to see them rake the tax in, fuel demand up to 185%, oil company profits of up to 80billion from one week! not only that, but some vendors adding up to 10p a litre onto the already over inflated prices.

My suggestion to you all, get up early this week. Kids are at home, no school runs, and I went to Sainsburys this morning to wash the car - 2 cars in the entire station, with a full reservoir and 8 free pumps at 08:00... you wont be waiting a lifetime as some have already done!
Soulfox
Two ESSO garages about half a mile apart in Bristol, one charges £1.44 & the other £1.37 for unleaded. W.T.F!! Is this legal. Dick Turpin wears an ESSO badge. Having said that On The Run ( who I believe is ESSO ) at Cardiff West M4 services are at £1.37 and have a policy of setting the price to £1 below the nearest TESCO. Still expensive but thats good for a motorway service station. My personnal policy is to avoid any garage that is £1.40. If they all go above that the car is going to be sh1t canned cos Ive had enough of all this.
jordan_macgregor
Ayye it''s utter bull shit like, i filled up last friday [30/3/2012] and already all the prices in my area are approaching the 140p mark, it's scary how much it costs to fill up...my dad was £96... to fill up his Insignia, and that was only when the fuel light had just come on as he pulled into the petrol station

I was in Inverness [Nairn] this weekend and a small Shell garage on the way out of Nairn was charging 145p for PETROL!
jeebowhite
crikey! £96 for a tank on a family car... that is rediculous... I keep pushing the boundary of £55-£60 on a 53 litre petrol tank... but £96... Either your dad has a "huge tank" or the garage swapped a few numbers on his receipts...!
rojariggs
[quote name='jeebowhite' timestamp='1334148066' post='177115']
crikey! £96 for a tank on a family car... that is rediculous... I keep pushing the boundary of £55-£60 on a 53 litre petrol tank... but £96... Either your dad has a "huge tank" or the garage swapped a few numbers on his receipts...!
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£96 at £1.459 per litre works out at about 65 litres. Most cars the size of the Insignia have between 60-70 litre tanks so sounds about right.
jayneybabi
north east its up to 138.9 for petrol!
jordan_macgregor
[quote name='jeebowhite' timestamp='1334148066' post='177115']
crikey! £96 for a tank on a family car... that is rediculous... I keep pushing the boundary of £55-£60 on a 53 litre petrol tank... but £96... Either your dad has a "huge tank" or the garage swapped a few numbers on his receipts...!
[/quote]

Ayye that was when he got the car delivered, being a company car, they told him to fill his old car and dropped the Insignia off with enough to get him to a garage - everyones feelin it

My Focus has a 55 ltr tank and i could easily get £70 in there - FUMIN!
DaveD
When I passed my test in April 1967 you could buy 4 gallons of petrol for £1. I could fill my Singer Chamois up for £1-10s (£1.50p). Happy days. :D
Torchwood
On a trip to Essex and back i saw £1.46 a litre for unleaded, and £1.56 for Diesel.. Diesel round where i live/commute is currently 1.47 a litre.... Well, what happened last time with the summer riots is only the beginning...
Kuga Kev
I paid 144.9 for diesel in Morrison's in Grays Essex. :huh:
Bigdaddycain
I'm sorry my friends, but it WILL keep on rising in price i'm afraid. There is an agenda, and most in the know realize that the price NEEDS to be on or around the £1.90 per litre mark by the middle of next year.


If there are any cover stories to so called "justify" the price, then happy days for the government as that makes us even easier to hoodwink.

You think the Americans would pay these type of prices? Being brits we'll do the usual... grumble about it quietly, yet put up with it.

We're the type that will hate the haircut, then smile at the barber when he holds up the mirror and even tip him, then moan about it when he can't hear us.... (true though isn't it?)

We'll do exactly the same thing regarding the fuel price... What we all NEED to do as a complete unified population with NO EXCEPTIONS is to simply NOT buy fuel for an entire month, NO MATTER WHAT! That's the only way to show the government we mean business, and can unify... In fact, it's a manner of coup de tat without the violent uprising.

The excess stocks of fuel wouldn't be flogged off cheap after a month...We'd still have to pay the same price... But it shows that perhaps we won't be held to ransom quite so much, they haven't got us by the short and curlies quite as much as they think they have...

Of course it would never work... Each of us has our own excuses as to WHY we NEED the fuel... Of course we don't actually NEED IT. I'd be prepared to use my Mountain bike for my daily 35 mile commute to work, i'd be getting fit (at last) for very little money!
jeebowhite
I would love to know more as to why it needs to be £1.90, its a shame though as I would need it as I have a 60 mile commute to and from work, and being motorway, I would struggle to get to work (especially with my health!).

However I would happily partake in any uprising, (where I could keep my job!).

Problem is, if we all get around it by public transport, the fee's would go up to compensate the months fuel loss, then the petrol would come down then go back up again.

If I could afford a more economical car (as the government keep insisting on everyone doing) I would do so, but I cant afford to find £20,000.00 for a new car, anymore than I can afford to take part in a strike on fuel, or paying 1.90 a litre for the gold juice!

So I would ask the government this... If I cant afford a more economical car, and I cant afford to pay the petrol to go to work, then I cant work. I cant contribute to society, cant be paid for it, then I need to go on benefits. Which in turn means more lost money from the government, less tax being paid into their fat pockets...

So "what difference could one person make".

Lets say everyone on this forum had to give up their job, or chose to, to prove the point. How much lost revenue would that cause? how much loss in the economy would that cause? business goes bust, more people on the doll, more money the country pays out, less coming in...

So why is it the government think that by putting up the price of fuel that we are all benefitting.

If you cant get to work, and theres no jobs within walking distance, and your on a low wage so cant afford the public transport, how long would it take before the fat cats, and out of touch MP's realise?

How do you see the country in 20 years time? I say if the government keep going as they are, the living arrangements and the dictatorship portayed in "the hunger games" is probably not too far afield...
DaveD
I passed my test in the '60s when you could buy 4 gallons of petrol for less than a £1. I have always lived within seven miles of my work. I can cycle this on my push bike or use the motorcycle. I decided to move to Lincolnshire and before we sold/bought our house I found a job and bought locally. This time only three miles to work, I could easily walk that.
These days peps travel anything from 20 to 60 miles (and more) to and from their place of work, every working day. Why oh why did you chose to travel all these miles every day did you not expect fuel to go up? I am now retired and have bought an economical to run small Ka. We obey the speed limits and drive with economy in mind. Our little stop/start Ka gives us great fuel economy averaging well over 50mpg. You must remember fuel prices will always rise. You must budget for this its a fact of life.
Maleforce
It's a tough one, think most of the people are really finding the cost of fuel hard to keep pace with, after we have moved to a super eco car where do we go from there, whats the next economy I just changed cars and went from 23p a mile to just over 10, so I've managed to sort the problem for a while. However once we all do that they will just increase prices even more and increase road tax to we are back to where we started. For me the conclusion is work towards a future away from the Uk,.
jeebowhite
Well, I travel 60 miles a day to work. I moved into my home and had a job that was only a mile up the road, but at a poor wage, and a shocking establishment, I moved onto work somewhere 15 miles away from work. Then wages stayed low, and family came along, and I had to go where the work is. Unfortunately moving home close to work isnt really an option especially at the cost. So I now drive 60 miles a day to work, its got to be done. For me, I have to do it, its the only way to put food on the table, and if I could get the same pay closer to home, with guaranteed job placement (the security I have in my current role) then I would do it. But I hate spenidng a quarter of my wages on fuel, but I would rather pay 25% out of my 100% wage, than pay %0 out of my 0% wage...
fordieashx
Safe to say i feel kinda lucky living in Scotland - well where i live - fuel can be 140.9 for petrol and 148.9 for diesel. After being down at Alton Towers last week petrol was more expensive than our diesel at 149.9! £50 was only just hitting the 3/4 in my boyfriends Audi. It must have been the most economical i've ever seen him drive tbh. ^_^
DaveD
Sorry to hear that jeebowhite :( When I left school in 1962 you could just walk into any job you pleased, no kidding. If so and so down the road was paying more some peps left at lunch time and started straight away, it was a workers paradise. This went on well into the seventies until Callaghan came to power then it all went down hill :(
Stoney871
Diesel is £1.41.9 here in my nearest garage at the moment. :)
Getting a bit cheaper.
But not at the Texaco next door - £1.49.9 - robbing buggers.
jeebowhite
Hi DaveD, yeah I know what you mean. Being 23, I dont have mounds of experience to walk into any job at the best of time, but with all this recession malarky and the poor climate, its just not easy anymore :( I struggle still, and would happily take a closer to home, well paid job, but right now, I am happy with the job security! thats a lot more than some folk our there will have :(
Kuga Kev
[quote name='Kuga Kev' timestamp='1335042573' post='178954']
I paid 144.9 for diesel in Morrison's in Grays Essex. :huh:
[/quote] Update it is now 141.9 a little better but still taking the pee me thinks. :huh:
jordan_macgregor
[quote name='Kuga Kev' timestamp='1336162673' post='180895']
Update it is now 141.9 a little better but still taking the pee me thinks. :huh:
[/quote]

Still totally taking the pee me thinks! Here [dunfermline] it [petrol] actually went up to around 143p, but has now settled at 139p, thank christ!

I totally agree with most of the points everyone is making on this thread...

I think i want to emigrate...will take years from now probably but seriously starting to think about, there's just nothing properous about the UK anymore, like a couple guys said on here, you used to be able to walk into any job, im lucky iv got an apprenticeship with Babcock, tons of my mates are at college/uni and are faced with working in ASDA and such for years before getting a proper job - even with important quals. like civil engineering etc... but im digressing!

Fuel prices are stinkin and i would be more than happy to boycott the feckers for a month!
DaveD
jordan_macgregor...Babcock boilers? I know them from being in the Merchant Navy all them years ago.
Marcr1
My local garage is 137.9 for Unleaded. Sounds like pennies compared to what som of you are paying :/
DaveD
That is why we only have one car now a small new fuel efficient Ka. When driven at the legal speed limits the fuel consumption is quite impressive and lets us go for days out. Planning our days out to avoid congestion and rush hours the little Ka is a little gem. Last Friday we had an indicated 90mpg whilst doing 60mph on a A road. Kept it up for almost two miles.
ijustwantafile
[quote name='Marcr1' timestamp='1337280995' post='183089']
My local garage is 137.9 for Unleaded. Sounds like pennies compared to what som of you are paying :/
[/quote]

mines dropped to 132.7 here. So glad cos I needed to fill up as I'm got a 200mile drive this weekend B) .
jeebowhite
Topped up yesterday 136.9 for Shell fuelsave unleaded... I have recently changed my route to work, as early speculation of the route (Motorway, then A roods) seems to give an impressive return. The live MPG reader rarely dips below 60 MPG :D
jordan_macgregor
[quote name='DaveD' timestamp='1337194579' post='182913']
jordan_macgregor...Babcock boilers? I know them from being in the Merchant Navy all them years ago.
[/quote]

The very same, now Babcock Intl. Group - athough its the Marine division that operate in Rosyth...
Stoney871
Babcock operate the Naval Base down here too.
Gemma1984
Here we're 1.32 a litre of unleaded it's a joke really is
ijustwantafile
[quote name='Gemma1984' timestamp='1337537726' post='183551']
Here we're £1.32 a litre of unleaded it's a joke really is
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Was on the motorway last night and saw it at £1.45.9 total rip off but it's mad how people pay it. I've only once filled up at a motorway services and that was cos the petrol station i usually fill up before getting on was out of petrol and I thought i'd have enough but realised I best grab £5 worth to make sure.
ManxKat
I am in the Isle of Man so our petrol is always ridiculous :(
It's currently at 149.9p

This website is handy if you live in the UK though - you type your town in and it tells you the cheapest place to buy fuel nearby.

[url="http://www.petrolprices.com/"]http://www.petrolprices.com/[/url]


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