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.Ryan
Just got my ST grill for my Focus but having a bit of trouble getting the swivel Ford badge off. Can anyone give us some advice on how to get it off and onto the new grill?

[img]http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m521/rhino19/Focus%20Zetec%20S/c03b1d83.jpg[/img]

[img]http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m521/rhino19/Focus%20Zetec%20S/94dac240.jpg[/img]


Here is my new grill:

The screw looks like it's already had a going over, and I reckon it will be a struggle to unscrew with such weak thread.

Any help welcome :)
.Ryan
Thread is completley knackered :(
Stoney871
You need to unscrew where like you say looks like someone's had a go at it already.
If it's plastic and the screwdriver doesn't grip try heating up the tip of a blade screwdriver and melting a new slot into it.
The screw grips the front of the badge to the pivot which is the bigger bit around the screw, they both come out and there is a coil spring behind.
Look here for the bits inside as a reference picture -

[url="http://www.fordpartsuk.com/shop/ford_focus_mk1_radiator_grille_flip_badge_kit_f_KITBADGE2_c_99.htm"]http://www.fordpartsuk.com/shop/ford_focus_mk1_radiator_grille_flip_badge_kit_f_KITBADGE2_c_99.htm[/url]
Paddy H
How i removed mine was unscrew the little screw a little and it pops out, along with spring. If you keep screwing and screwing itl just not do anything, it should unscrew enough then you can pull it out. Try wedge spring out, that may be stopping you pal.
.Ryan
The top of the screw has just come away and I'm left with this:

[img]http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m521/rhino19/Focus%20Zetec%20S/b229e4ea.jpg[/img]

Tried heating the tip of the screwdriver up with no joy.......new badge perhaps? :(
Paddy H
So you've threaded the screw? Shame you live miles away or else id come do it ha.

All i did was unscrew the screw whilst putting bit force into it and then unclipped the spring. Is the screw still fixed down? in thread? try pushing the spring out mate see where it clips on side plastic, be careful the screw may fly.
raskL
looks like it mate , if you get a new one tell me where you got it mines nackered after trapping it in bonnet atleast 20 times :D
Stoney871
Looks like a replacement is needed.
For any of you that need a replacement for the Mk2 / 2.5 Focus
This is the correct one -
Finis Code 1360719
Available at [b][u]Ford dealers [/u][/b]or-
[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-FOCUS-GRILLE-BADGE-2005-2010-SWIRL-FLIP-BADGE-INCLUDING-ST-/261058244556?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3cc848afcc"]http://www.ebay.co.u...=item3cc848afcc[/url]
Or
[url="http://www.fordpartsuk.com/shop/ford_focus_front_grille_flip_badge_kit_f_KITBADGE4_c_340.htm"]http://www.fordparts...ADGE4_c_340.htm[/url]
Paddy H
They sell them all over ebay, most haven't got springs or screws though make sure you check. [url="http://goo.gl/RtuUW"]http://goo.gl/RtuUW[/url]


Beaten by Stoney... Yeah find a cheap one there.
raskL
thanks guys, ordering one now
.Ryan
Seem to of salvaged the actual Ford bage, it stays on (although not very secure), I'm going to see if Ford will sell me these bits (the two bits on the right|) to complete the swivel badge so it works properly:

[img]http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m521/rhino19/Focus%20Zetec%20S/IMG_1100.jpg[/img]

So, here is how she looks now with the ST grill:

[img]http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m521/rhino19/Focus%20Zetec%20S/IMG_1102.jpg[/img]

Bit of a bitter sweet really, as now the bonnet won't open as if the lock isn't catching........today is not my day :( Has this happened to anyone else?
raskL
looks good mate definatley prefer that honeycomb sort of look
Paddy H
I did have trouble, i sprayed alot of WD40 in the key bit and catching mechanism. Put your key into it.. turn to the right a slight touch about 2clock position then fully to left 10clock then back over to right 3clock.

Sounds bit crazy but when you put key in slightly turn right then over to left as much and then to right.

When it opens spray a good bit of WD40 or something on the catch and that. Remember your way of opening it too. let me know if it works
.Ryan
Will go and give that a try shortly mate thankyou :)

It's odd because the lock is in the same position it was on the old grill, I just turn the key and nothing happens. Kind of worrying a little/lot :unsure:
Paddy H
[quote name='Rh1no' timestamp='1341498641' post='191342']
Will go and give that a try shortly mate thankyou :)

It's odd because the lock is in the same position it was on the old grill, I just turn the key and nothing happens. Kind of worrying a little/lot :unsure:
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just try it (slightly to the right, then all the way to the left - then to right to open)
:)
Haz93
Check my reply to the other grill thread. Major design fault with the focus locking mechanism
reesmew
Frustrating as it is the design prevents thieves from opening your bonnet with a screwdriver if they've ripped off your grill. The most frustrating part is that you don't realise there's an anti tamper device fitted until you try to open your locked bonnet!!
.Ryan
Tried WD40 no joy, just got the new grill and this happens :(
Paddy H
Did you try turning the key like i said? i couldnt open mine at first i think it was due to tighten the nut too much where the spring is, maybe loosen it a little. But turning the key like i said didn't open it?
.Ryan
Yea I tried doing that with no joy, will keep at it pal!
.Ryan
Popped into Ford earlier who didn't seem that interested, but said they would have a look at it on Tuesday, can see this costing me :(
Haz93
well I got mine done for free, including the replacement grill. Just make sure you mention its a design fault, they should replace it free of charge. also make sure they replace with the ST grill as it should be like for like. took them about 5 hours to do mine, as they ordered part from the main parts centre for the Midlands and was delivered within a few hours.

Also for anyone thinking of replacing the grill I would defiantly advise getting it done at a ford garage unless you are sure how to remove the key lock mechanism before you start. It is an extremely fragile part, for something that could be so simple.
.Ryan
I normally have pretty bad luck with dealing with companies, they will probably screw me on the lack of service history, it would still be in warranty if it had that.
Haz93
Mine is a 60 plate with no service history when I bought it second hand, and nearly 28000 miles on the clock now and they still did it free of charge. I just rang up, booked it in and picked it up afterwards, they didn't ask for any money, but I'm sure if you try hard they will do it free of charge. It is fords fault that it has that mechanism in it anyway, they should have thought that the owners would want to swap the grills over to the other variants and or after market ones
.Ryan
Hope your right! If I don't get it open I will try this :) thanks buddy.
.Ryan
Put a video up to see if anyone can shed anymore light:

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kJpeyU_5Rs&feature=youtu.be"]Link[/url]

This is where I have removed the rubber boot and exposed the white platic collet. I've tried applying force to the collet whilst turning the key with no joy. The collet does seem loose.

Thanks for looking guys :(
.Ryan
[quote name='Rh1no' timestamp='1341678178' post='191889']
Put a video up to see if anyone can shed anymore light:

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kJpeyU_5Rs&feature=youtu.be"]Link[/url]

This is where I have removed the rubber boot and exposed the white platic collet. I've tried applying force to the collet whilst turning the key with no joy. The collet does seem loose.

Thanks for looking guys :(
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Bumpage, got a feeling Ford will try and screw me on Tuesday.
reesmew
Rh1no from what I remember that white plastic part has two male slots which has female slots on the lock behind it at nine and three o'clock and has to be pressed very firmly on both sides at the same time. You should hear a snap when it clicks into place.
Good luck
Brigante
Alright mate I had this exact problem and literally just fixed it the other day. I did exactly the same as you and used a 400mm slotted screwdriver. There's no way your bonnet lock assembly will be broken if all you did is slide the barrel out from the grill and it worked fine beforehand so you won't need to pay ford or smash the grill and buy a new lock kit like I thought I'd have to. Its all about being persistent and finding the right angle and applying a lot of pressure. Slide your screwdriver through the grill directly above the badge and you need to get the head of the screwdriver directly above the cable and push on the white collet like your doing, from my experience I tried every angle of the collet like going from underneath and from both sides of the cable with no joy, but literally as soon as I positioned it above the cable I felt something change and the key actual seemed to be doing something, I put all my body weight on the collet and pushed the key in too, turned it left and the bonnet popped so I quickly turned it right and lifted the bonnet. As reesmew said above me, you'll feel the male part slot in the female part and when pressed firmly you'll hear em click into place.

This is a picture of how I had my screwdriver and it worked without fail

[IMG]http://i1256.photobucket.com/albums/ii487/therealbrigante/bonnet.jpg[/IMG]
.Ryan
[quote name='Brigante' timestamp='1341780409' post='192157']
Alright mate I had this exact problem and literally just fixed it the other day. I did exactly the same as you and used a 400mm slotted screwdriver. There's no way your bonnet lock assembly will be broken if all you did is slide the barrel out from the grill and it worked fine beforehand so you won't need to pay ford or smash the grill and buy a new lock kit like I thought I'd have to. Its all about being persistent and finding the right angle and applying a lot of pressure. Slide your screwdriver through the grill directly above the badge and you need to get the head of the screwdriver directly above the cable and push on the white collet like your doing, from my experience I tried every angle of the collet like going from underneath and from both sides of the cable with no joy, but literally as soon as I positioned it above the cable I felt something change and the key actual seemed to be doing something, I put all my body weight on the collet and pushed the key in too, turned it left and the bonnet popped so I quickly turned it right and lifted the bonnet. As reesmew said above me, you'll feel the male part slot in the female part and when pressed firmly you'll hear em click into place.

This is a picture of how I had my screwdriver and it worked without fail

[img]http://i1256.photobucket.com/albums/ii487/therealbrigante/bonnet.jpg[/img]
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I will give this a go tomorrow mate, thankyou (fingers crossed!)
Brigante
seriously though mate you might think it aint happening at all but keep at it, I actually did it within 5 minutes with a little help from the missus. thought it werent happening and went right the way around the white collet with the screwdriver and it didnt seem to do anything, but then as soon as i positioned the screwdriver above the cable i felt the collet push in and could feel the male and female ends meet up. i applied pressure while the missus turned the key, took a few goes but the bonnet popped up really easy. so it might help to get someone to turn the key for you while you put all your body weight on the screwdriver and even if you cant get them to click together just keep pushing it in and you will get the bonnet open then deal with getting the connection to click in after. whatever you do though, when you do crack it on the left turn and the bonnet pops, dont get too excited and make sure you quickly turn the key right or you'll loose the connection and have to start over. if there wasn't a 2 hour distance i'd pop over and do it for you myself cause its actual piss easy when you know how.

but looking at your youtube vid you have got the right idea but didn't position the screwdriver right and didnt push hard enough. you'll do it though =)
.Ryan
[quote name='Brigante' timestamp='1341785943' post='192191']
seriously though mate you might think it aint happening at all but keep at it, I actually did it within 5 minutes with a little help from the missus. thought it werent happening and went right the way around the white collet with the screwdriver and it didnt seem to do anything, but then as soon as i positioned the screwdriver above the cable i felt the collet push in and could feel the male and female ends meet up. i applied pressure while the missus turned the key, took a few goes but the bonnet popped up really easy. so it might help to get someone to turn the key for you while you put all your body weight on the screwdriver and even if you cant get them to click together just keep pushing it in and you will get the bonnet open then deal with getting the connection to click in after. whatever you do though, when you do crack it on the left turn and the bonnet pops, dont get too excited and make sure you quickly turn the key right or you'll loose the connection and have to start over. if there wasn't a 2 hour distance i'd pop over and do it for you myself cause its actual piss easy when you know how.

but looking at your youtube vid you have got the right idea but didn't position the screwdriver right and didnt push hard enough. you'll do it though =)
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Appreciated mate, thankyou so much :)
.Ryan
Thanks so much! All sorted now, just needed a bit of brute force :)
Brigante
Whey hey! brute force is always the answer mate :)
Lenny
[quote name='Brigante' timestamp='1341866989' post='192418']
Whey hey! brute force is always the answer mate :)
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Top Respect to you mate,
for saving Rhino an expensive trip to the dealers.and a broken grill [url="http://focusowners-social.com/forum/posting.php?mode=smilies&f=10#"][img]http://focusowners-social.com/forum/images/smilies/bravo.gif[/img][/url]
.Ryan
[quote name='Brigante' timestamp='1341866989' post='192418']
Whey hey! brute force is always the answer mate :)
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You know it!

[quote name='Lenny' timestamp='1341867895' post='192425']
Top Respect to you mate,
for saving Rhino an expensive trip to the dealers.and a broken grill [url="http://focusowners-social.com/forum/posting.php?mode=smilies&f=10#"][img]http://focusowners-social.com/forum/images/smilies/bravo.gif[/img][/url]
[/quote]

Indeed, already PM'd him but thanks again mate, appreciated as always.

The mrs frowns when she sees me on the forums, soon shut her up when she knew it saved me from pouring cash into Ford's till! ;)

I owe you a pint Brigante :)
Brigante
Lmao saved from pouring cash into fords till And shut the mrs up in the process, think that's what they call a win win isn't it? I know to keep my long screwdriver permanently in the boot now, best 5quid I've ever spent.

What was your face like when you found the right angle and suddenly popped the bonnet on the left turn?
.Ryan
[quote name='Brigante' timestamp='1341877927' post='192479']
What was your face like when you found the right angle and suddenly popped the bonnet on the left turn?
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[img]http://a0.twimg.com/profile_images/1079908235/borat_855_18535194_0_0_12672_300.jpg[/img]
Stoney871
Is nice, High five. ;)
Lenny
[quote name='Rh1no' timestamp='1341886830' post='192501']
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[quote name='Stoney871' timestamp='1341901980' post='192513']
Is nice, High five. ;)
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Stoney871
Damn, someone finally found a photo of me. ;)
Brigante
:lol: Yup the missus and I looked exactly the same. Just the way 1 second nothings happening then the next your overcome with joy when the bonnet suddenly pops
.Ryan
[quote name='Brigante' timestamp='1341942560' post='192653']
:lol: Yup the missus and I looked exactly the same. Just the way 1 second nothings happening then the next your overcome with joy when the bonnet suddenly pops
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Never thought i'd be that happy to look under the bonnet of my car!


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