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johnH
hi folks,

well for a while now I've been saving up and debating on whether or not to get the Ford Dealership tool.

When i had my peugeot 307 a while back i bought the PSA equivalent called peugeot planet from a Chinese seller, it was a clone admittedly. but it still did all the same jobs as the original and i managed to activate a few features in my 307 and even scanned other forum members cars when they had issues.

So now I've saved up and now I've ordered the FORD VCM IDS. This is the device the dealerships use to connect to your car, scan codes, program new modules etc etc basically everything they can do, once I get the hang of the software so can I.

Again it's a Chinese clones and yeah there are plenty of rumours, but none with evidence. So once I have the device and tested etc I will post up the update and even a video ;)

I am not sure if I can post up the link to the shop, but will post up once I get the device, test it and a review to give.

Oh and it cost £176 for the device, £24 delivery charge and a few extra ££ for transaction fee to $$$. in total £209.
Preee
Thats not a bad price John , I'm sure you are going to have plenty of fun with it.
artscot79
you can make money even charging 15quid to do codes and activate stuff knew a guy on the vw site who did it, its only fair its cheaper than a dealer and since you paid for it its worth getting something back. if i was anywhere near you ide happily pay
johnH
yeah i was thinking about that, ie going to members who are having issues and help diagnose and test things. i could even do it nationally...get enough people in one area and spend the day...meet members and their rides etc
Paddy H
You'd be like the Ford Doctor. All these poorly cars coming to see you!

Its a very reasonable price for what you can actually do with the device. I think worth the saving ay.
johnH
i like that - ford doctor...:lol:

on another forum, i did this for a while for peugeots and citroens as i had their tool... must have made 5x the value of the tool back just scanning abs faults and sorting my car out.

also when im done i normally sell for a fraction and normally people snap my fingers off for them.

once i get the device and had a play and got a review i will post up a link and a video...as mentioned before.
GSM
What can you do with it that you can't do with the ELM cable an FF2/ELMconfig?
johnH
basically anything a dealer can do...im not sure on the elm thing...but id rather stick to software and hardware that i know.

examples are:
reset DPF counters
program keys
program new ECU's, BSI's
full diagnostics
oscilloscope function
activate/deactivate features
actuator tests.

this device and the software i have, will be basically everything the dealership has, so id be saving money and helping others save money on diagnostics etc even on labour costs.

i was thinking, if i get enough interest i might approach the seller and ask about a forum discount to reduce the price to a more reasonable price.
jeebowhite
Ford Doctor H! Ex RAF'man, Current Bus Driver and now Doctor to the Ford's!

Its a good idea, having a diagnosis day in certain area's, the only real thing is that the cost to you in fuel is going to be more than you may make back, so you might want to tread carefully!

Sounds a good idea though mate, a nominal fee, a bit of cash in hand and a few favours pulled!

Look forward to seeing 'Doctor Ford' take off (Ford Doctor doesnt quite have the same ring to it?)
Lenny
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Ford Doctor H! Ex RAF'man, Current Bus Driver and now Doctor to the Ford's!

Its a good idea, having a diagnosis day in certain area's, the only real thing is that the cost to you in fuel is going to be more than you may make back, so you might want to tread carefully!

Sounds a good idea though mate, a nominal fee, a bit of cash in hand and a few favours pulled!

Look forward to seeing 'Doctor Ford' take off (Ford Doctor doesnt quite have the same ring to it?)
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johnH
i know what you mean jee, i was thinking lets say £20, get 5 people, thats £100 and it costs around £60 to fill my tank and on that i can get to and from london with some to spare so theres £40 profit....but yeah its something to work on.
Lenny
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i know what you mean jee, i was thinking lets say £20, get 5 people, thats £100 and it costs around £60 to fill my tank and on that i can get to and from london with some to spare so theres £40 profit....but yeah its something to work on.
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you would also need a 12v car charger for your laptop mate,
but 100% possible and an easy earner for a saturday morning in a tesco car park or somthing.

i would be interested in purchasing the kit myself, im going to read more about it and find out what exactly i could do with it
johnH
a new laptop more like lol this one is 5 year old and can hold battery for all around 20 mins at best. i was thinking about getting a small netbook.
johnH
just bought this, thought it was a bargain and a good mod:

[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/160856035917"]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/160856035917[/url]
Lenny
[quote name='johnH' timestamp='1344278164' post='199218']
a new laptop more like lol this one is 5 year old and can hold battery for all around 20 mins at best. i was thinking about getting a small netbook.
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yes some of the net books have up to 8 hours battery life on them
Lenny
[quote name='johnH' timestamp='1344281041' post='199231']
just bought this, thought it was a bargain and a good mod:

[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/160856035917"]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/160856035917[/url]
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very good find mate,
they are like hens teeth trying to find them without the auto light setting but with the dimmer wheel.
johnH
been after one for ageis but as you say they're like hens teeth so when i seen it i was like mine....nabbed my car and did the deal lol
jeebowhite
Lol, good find lenny, now we just have to pain John's car to reflect his status... :P

JohnH, as you say, if your looking to get around and meet people anyway, as you say, its a few quid pocket money if nothing else :) no real value lost if you wanted to head that way anyway, so more profit :P

as for the switch, looks good, very discreet mod!
ijustwantafile
[quote name='Lenny' timestamp='1344281501' post='199236']
yes some of the net books have up to 8 hours battery life on them
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just be careful on the resolution. You will find that some software will fill more than the screen making it so you can't click stuff at the bottom. but besides that netbooks are great, had mine for around 3 years and still holds its battery. The latest range of 11.6" laptops are very good next step up if you still want something small, lightweight and portable.
johnH
got my switch this morning, straight swap...worked straight away. 1+ for the guide listed on the forum.

further update to the device, it is now on the way to sunny blighty...i really cant wait! lol start checking for things i can activate :P
Stoney871
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got my switch this morning, straight swap...worked straight away. 1+ for the guide listed on the forum.
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I believe that may of been my guide?
Glad it helped you.
johnH
sure was stoney, just had to check lol.

i should be getting my device later today or tomorrow. Its being delivered by DHL - they are notorious for going around with invisible delivery men in invisible vans and blow on your door then say your not in!!!

mind you, it could be worse, could of been parcelfarce - where they deliver to the wrong street and house on the other side of the city or royal mail, where it just gets lost...simples lol

but ive ordered myself a new laptop to run a Virtual XP terminal off or use my old laptop for ford software..

Sony Vaio F23P1E/B Core i7, 6GB RAM, 640GB Hard Drive, 16.4 inch Laptop with Blu-Ray
jeebowhite
not bad JohnH, you just bitten your profit again though ;) lol

Surely being on the busses, you must know most of the other drivers who have Fords? you can start off with them guys and get them to spread the word!!!
Stoney871
[quote name='johnH' timestamp='1344508929' post='199877']
i should be getting my device later today or tomorrow. Its being delivered by DHL - they are notorious for going around with invisible delivery men in invisible vans and blow on your door then say your not in!!!

mind you, it could be worse, could of been parcelfarce - where they deliver to the wrong street and house on the other side of the city or royal mail, where it just gets lost...simples lol
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Don't get me started on Royal Mail/Parcelforce.
They mess you around and when you want to complain they give you such a runaround you give up in frustration.
My postman seems to walk around with an empty bag and a handful of "while you were out" cards.
The amount of times I've driven to the depot after leaving the usual 8 hours they write on the card and get the reply "it's not back yet", what they mean is "it's back but we couldn't be arsed to sort it yet".
gc88
Were forced to.wait 34 hours before we can collect from royal mail!

Not as bad as yodel though...if you havent seen them YouTube yodel and watch some videos!
johnH
right a little update, i got a text at 0700 saying the parcel is on the van (with courier) so i thought get in, the depot is only 2 mile away they will be here in no time....well no....

i stay in the house till 1300, which is when i left for work. i left my sister to listen out for DHL. She left an hour later 1400 for work. i get a text at 1620 saying they attempted delivery!!!! wtf....it takes them that long to drive 2 miles, now i know they have other deliveries but surely they would start in and move out to the furthest then boot it back to depot and home.

well it looks like im getting it tomoz...fingers crossed.

but yeah theres not many fords at work, to get started on them :lol:
johnH
right, got my laptop (using it now) and i got the device...ended up collecting instead of playing games waiting again lol so now im getting it all setup and will post up pics/vids soon.
gc88
[quote name='johnH' timestamp='1344634302' post='200219']
right, got my laptop (using it now) and i got the device...ended up collecting instead of playing games waiting again lol so now im getting it all setup and will post up pics/vids soon.
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I, for one, am excited for you!
johnH
hehe its the smell of new tech in the house....sorry im a massive IT geek, well was, now im slowly turning into a bus driver (no cursery words needed lol) but i got the software installed on a vmware - just updating it now. once i get it all sorted and time, let the playing begin...
jeebowhite
good man, I do love VM, delete and start again! :D
johnH
well i had a massive few hours of fiddling with IDS... and i broke my car (just messing with you)

yeah i did a full diagnosis on the car and it passed on everything...i even found options to reprogram modules such as cruise, auto lights, locks etc etc.

very simple user interface, americans for you.

but all in all on both my focus and my sisters fiesta, a good bit of kit and worth the money.

here is the link to purchase: [url="http://www.obd2tool.com/goods-156-Ford+VCM+IDS+for+Ford++Mazda+Jaguar+and+Landrover.html"]http://www.obd2tool.com/goods-156-Ford+VCM+IDS+for+Ford++Mazda+Jaguar+and+Landrover.html[/url]

if i get enough interest i may even approach the seller and see about forum discount
johnH
well i got it all up and running on version 78. (03.2012)

so heres a few videos to show what it can do: (bbareman vids)

demonstration:
http://youtu.be/z9c_8Y1OatQ

DPF:
http://youtu.be/NLpEklZwl9o
jeebowhite
Thats pretty extensive, seems a worthwhile investment, and certainly better if you can get a few quid back for your investment! It does do a lot, and most of that would cost you 60 - 80 quid a shot! shame you cant do your own diagnosis and take a report into your local dealer, and when they offer you a diagnostics fee, wave the diagnostics report in front of their face :P
Paddy H
Well your now the Ford Dr arnt you. Ought get running some tests on your local boys fords.

Like i said before, worth the money, especially in the long run.
Preee
it says you download the software from them , how often is it updated and how many updates are you allowed to download from them?
Richiemac
You've been lucky with your purchase i can tell you.....i'm on my third return unit at the moment :( To get one that actually works 100% is a pure lottery......believe me. Half the sellers don't even know what it is the VCM is supposed to do and then claim to offer 'support' ....
Have a read on garage forum uk about 'poor quality clone VCM's and it'll open your eyes.
Some of them are actually dangerous in the sense that they can render modules useless...........
Just be careful thats all.....
johnH
they send a disc with version 75 on that doesnt require a key, but the later versions (currently 80) need licences but the russians are good at bypassing this licence requirement.

so aslong there is patches then it should be all good.

ive already let the heavies at work know i have the device and say they will spread the word ;p

hey richie, does sound abit of an issue. ive tried getting on garageforum uk lately and it keeps returning a page saying down for maintenance???

ive not done much with it just yet, just scanned a few codes on my sisters fiesta and cleared them...but have tried other options such as full diagnosis of the electrical system and that...all good atm.
johnH
well i just doubled checked with the seller and they say their device is fully compatable with version 79...v80 hasnt been patched just yet so they are not sure its capable but will update me apparently if it is.
johnH
well today i have finally had a good go with the software, weather being nice and all. Since i hooked it in i went to program modules and found reprogram PCM so i had a ganders and it told me the PCM has an update available. so after updating i must say the car is alot smoother and the engine is giving more MPG....i want to know what was in the this updates and the others before that this update would affect the car.

my next task is to check the fiesta for updates....well chuffed.


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