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StanH
The obvious thing to check is the fuse but I cannot identify it.
The handbook says F109 and gives a diagram of the fuse board in the passenger well, but my fuse board is nothing like the handbook shows.
My board has two straight rows of fuses, none marked with a number and there is no diagram there. My digging at this problem has led me to think that maybe this is the same board as in early CMaxs apart from the fact that the CMax info I have does not have a cigar lighter fuse shown.
Can anyone please help me to identify it as I don't want to go pulling fuses to check when in fact there may not be one there and it may be somewhere else.
Thank you
artscot79
the fuse diagram is on the back of the foam cover that covers the fuse box mate cigar lighter was 10amp on the lowest row if memory serves me
StanH
Sorry, no diagram anywhere. Fuse board has no cover anyway

Stan
GSM
I'll take pics of mine for comparison tomorrow. 06 Ghia too.
StanH
Thanks, but unless it is different from the pic in the owners handbook, it will not help.
Mine has two parallel row of fuses along the edge and no identification numbering
Stoney871
Does it look like this?
[img]http://www.kmatt.co.uk/ccforum/fuses.jpg[/img]

Or this?

[img]http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l544/alkyz89/DSC_0147.jpg[/img]
On the first one the fuses do have numbers but on the trim in front of each fuse. If this one it is fuse 46 or 47 (should be 20A but may be a 15A)
On the second one the lighter socket fuse is listed as F109
StanH
Hi Stoney,
Can't get at it at the moment but pretty sure it is the first one with blanks circled.
Incidentally are these standard fuses. the female sockets look odd
Stoney871
Standard mini blade fuses.
Just a suggestion but you can buy fuses that light up when they blow which will make it easier at a glance to see if any pop.
StanH
Thanks - will get a selection, and finally, I don't recall any numbers on the trim, so are you able to identify which one it should be in your pic?
Stoney871
Sorry I'm about 30 miles from my mk2 or I'd have a look for you. I'll see what I can do for you later.
StanH
Many thanks, Stoney, you are being a great help.
Stoney871
Working it out from my picture and on further investigation it could be 39 or 47.
39 is third from the left on the top row group of six and I believe 47 is the first 20amp fuse from the left on the next row down between the two blue 15amp fuses.
Brigante
Just been and had the glovebox out of my 05 plate ghia and this is what I found, Is yours the same mate?

[IMG]http://i1256.photobucket.com/albums/ii487/therealbrigante/459340_479527305399161_347186407_o.jpg[/IMG]
StanH
Thanks Stoney - hope to be able to sort this tomorrow

Hi Brigante - yes that is the one - do you by any chance have a pic of fuse locations?

This whole thing shows up a big deficiency in Ford Owners Manuals in that they do not match the car. I had an 08 plate Style just over a year ago and it had the same manual as the (wrong) one I have now
Brigante
Sorry for the silly question, feeling a bit slow today. But what exactly do you mean by the locations? I can go out and take more photos if it is of help.
StanH
Not a silly question - what I would like is a picture or drawing of the board with each fuse numbered - i.e so that I could identify F47 immediately, and of course a list of what each fuse is protecting.
There is such a list in my handbook but it does not refer to my board
Brigante
Not sure if I can help then sorry mate I was never given a handbook with my car :(

All I can do is take my car apart and take photos
Brigante
Looking at my current photo I think I may be able to go and take a clearer one which will show where F47 is. Bare with me mate
Brigante
F47 mate

[IMG]http://i1256.photobucket.com/albums/ii487/therealbrigante/F47-2.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i1256.photobucket.com/albums/ii487/therealbrigante/F47.jpg[/IMG]

Hope this is of help?
Stoney871
I have read up more and cross referenced.
According to three different sources the 12v socket fuse is number 39.
Diagram as below-

[IMG]http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m522/stoney871/12vsocketfuse.jpg[/IMG]
Brigante
Your a good lad Clive. I could have done the same though ;) where did F47 come from then?
StanH
Thank you both - with any luck I will get this sorted tomorrow
StanH
By the way, F47 came from a post Stoney made in the C Max section, but it looks like it applies to this layout only in a CMax, not a Focus like mine
Brigante
Just took the glovebox out again and I can confirm F39 anyway - Hope all this has helped mate, If it is 39 you need then it will be the same layout as mine anyway cause we both have mk2 ghia's

[img]http://i1256.photobucket.com/albums/ii487/therealbrigante/F39.jpg[/img]
StanH
Yes, a big thank you, all done and dusted. It was F39 as to said.

Now where can I get some information on the rest of the fuses on that board?
Stoney871
Information on that board layout seems very sparse but when I have time I will endeavour to suss them out over the next few days.
Not all boards have exactly the same fuse or relay spread but the major ones should be common to all.
MrGrumpy
there should be a diagram on the back of the foam you remove to get access to the fuse board, my Ghia has it. and i used that because as you said the manual isn't that helpful being basic
Stoney871
If its like my car there is no foam just a flexible plastic mesh on the under side of the board.
StanH
Mine has neither - just the board
StanH
Come to think of it MrGrumpy, if you have a diagram, and F39 is the one referred to here, how about a pic please
Stoney871
Strangely, the fuse board is exactly the same as one in a Mazda 3 just the fuse uses are different.
I am still endeavouring to get a definitive list done.
MrGrumpy
I would love to help but my cars in the Garage having work done :(

should have it back later today or tomorrow so i can get a picture for you then :)
tommy1340millar
The type with the 2 parallel rows of fuses is the older type. They are all now the type with the 'random' fuse pattern.
I would be very interested in an idiotproof updated chart of fuses and their application, as my handbook refers to the older type of Gem/fusebox, and not the newer type I have now (replaced by me due to water ingress)

I also seem to remember (though I have mislaid it!) that the Haynes manual has the latest type of fuse numbering listed.
I'd like to know if the Gem needs a relay fitted to get folding mirrors.
StanH
Tommy
I expect you know this, but in case not, you can download the present manual which shows the fuses and positions
http://www.scribd.com/doc/51405976/Focus-CG3505en-04-2010
artscot79
actually even the manual isnt right it shows a generic fuse box not related to that model thats why theres a foam pad that secures under the glove box with the fuse positions on a sticker relating to that exact fusebox which doesnt match up with my latest manual for the car.

when i get a minute ill take and upload a pic of the sticker showing what each fuse is for
Stoney871
That will help greatly, the handbooks and Haynes are both showing the different fuse box.
Annoying when trying to locate a certain fuse.
Searching the web for information was pretty futile.
MrGrumpy
Got my car back from the garage today, so I'll get a couple of pics of the layout on the back of the foam piece
tommy1340millar
[quote name='StanH' timestamp='1346178049' post='203831']
Tommy
I expect you know this, but in case not, you can download the present manual which shows the fuses and positions
[url="http://www.scribd.com/doc/51405976/Focus-CG3505en-04-2010"]http://www.scribd.co...G3505en-04-2010[/url]
[/quote]

Cheers Stan, I didn't know about that!
Stoney871
Found the correct manual for the MK2 Focus with the fuseboard we have been hunting for.
All fuse locations and values available.

[url="http://www.scribd.com/doc/79198974/focus-cg3505en-05-2006"]http://www.scribd.com/doc/79198974/focus-cg3505en-05-2006[/url]
Stoney871
Quick reference pictures from the online handbook for The MK2

[img]http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m522/stoney871/FocusMK2CabinFuseboardDiagram.jpg[/img]

[img]http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m522/stoney871/FocusMK2CabinFuses.jpg[/img]

[img]http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m522/stoney871/FocusMK2CabinFuses2.jpg[/img]

Maybe i should put in for my Detectives course.:P
I was determined to find the data, i don't like to be beaten.
artscot79
mazda is the same as the ford chassis and is or was part owned by ford hence why some ford engines are yamaha mazda based
Brigante
[quote name='Stoney871' timestamp='1346417944' post='204255']
Quick reference pictures from the online handbook for The MK2

[img]http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m522/stoney871/FocusMK2CabinFuseboardDiagram.jpg[/img]

[img]http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m522/stoney871/FocusMK2CabinFuses.jpg[/img]

[img]http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m522/stoney871/FocusMK2CabinFuses2.jpg[/img]

Maybe i should put in for my Detectives course. :P
I was determined to find the data, i don't like to be beaten.
[/quote]

Well done sherlock
StanH
Great - printed and put in handbook - thanks

Stan
Stoney871
It helps me too so it was definitely worth the hunt.
I think i'll put the data up as a PDF on a permanent link.
StanH
Could you also post a link to the on-line handbook for the Mk2 please - the link I have is for the wrong version

Stan
Stoney871
Here you go mate.

[url="http://www.scribd.com/doc/79198974/focus-cg3505en-05-2006"]http://www.scribd.com/doc/79198974/focus-cg3505en-05-2006[/url]
StanH
Once again, thanks

Stan
Stoney871
Once again you're welcome. :D


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