Help - Search - Members - Calendar
Full Version: Fly Eye Film?
Ford Owners Club - Ford Forums > Ford Models > Ford Focus Club
Brigante
Yay or Nay?

Thinking of getting some in black as a cheap way to do my head lights n rear clusters till I get round to getting actual black units.

Opinions?

Who's already got it n would you recommend it?

This what I'm on about:

[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BLACK-HEADLIGHT-TAIL-LIGHT-TINT-VINYL-FILM-FLY-EYE-KIT-MOT-PASS-/230853710678?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item35bff41356&_uhb=1#ht_3912wt_1186"]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BLACK-HEADLIGHT-TAIL-LIGHT-TINT-VINYL-FILM-FLY-EYE-KIT-MOT-PASS-/230853710678?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item35bff41356&_uhb=1#ht_3912wt_1186[/url]
moy24
i have seen them on a corsa combo van at a garage i went to a while back. On the van it looked ok but i think it will look better on the focus it does look like he put ladies tights over the headlight as it got the little hole in them he said it cuts about 5% of light but he did recomend it to me if i ever wanted it done. As it cheap try it if u dont like it take it off.
artscot79
im intrigued may experiment doing this to the rear lights and see how it looks
Brigante
May order some as it's only 10quid n give it a go in the week. Reading some of the sellers feedback through, they private listings so don't say what the product was, but the feedback says how it was poor quality crappy film, which I'm assuming is about the fly eyes.

Is the free sunstrip that comes with it likely to be any good?
artscot79
theres a astra bertone round from me with totaly black headlights its a film but apparently doesnt block any light
Brigante
Any idea what the films called mate?
artscot79
i think its lamin x im not convinced its legal but they get away with it
Brigante
Hmm didn't think a solid film would be legal that's why the fly eyes perforated to let the light shine through. May take a punt n get some at a tenner, if it looks crap I'll just rip it off n bin it lol.
artscot79
i just want to do rear fog and reverse maybe 3rd brake light and see how it looks
jgriff
I know a lad that has it on his mk1 rs and it looks really good. He said its very easy to put on but does say it cuts the light output somewhat. It is mot passable unlike some tints out there.
Seen it on a few cars at Ford Fair this year and i was impressed with it, coz it looks like a tint from the distance.
artscot79
i dont want to do the fronts pointless finding great bulbs then cutting the light output but im interested in doing all the rear lights
Gary Minty Jupe
i was thinking the same as [url="http://www.fordownersclub.com/forums/user/8800-artscot79/"]artscot79[/url] worth doing the rear lights but not sure about the reverse and fog light !
artscot79
ive got the cree lights so the light will still be strong and with the black theme ive got going it may just blend it in
moy24
Here is a focus i found on the net with some kind of flyeye kit gives you a idea how it might look i no the pic is the facelift model but just a rough idea
Brigante
They do look good fitted to the ST

I know they block out some of the light, but think it's only about 5% and I'd mainly want em on the head lights cause I want black head light units. These would do till I had a spare 80quid for the black units.

I think I may order some in the week n post a few photos once fitted to see what everyone thinks. Then if the light appears to be dramaticallyd reduced I'll just rip it off n bin it lol
Stoney871
I finally got to chat with my oppo in traffic.
Definitive answer concerning flyeye and tinting films on lights is fine for daytime but illegal on the road at night unless off road.
Anything that reduces the effectiveness of lights at night is a no-no.
Sorry guys, don't shoot the messenger.
Jager King
Loads of guys up here have the fly eye's fitted. I personally wouldn't, at 375 for a headlight only (ST/RS), it's an expensive lesson if you get it wrong. Have heard of the glue heating up and melting / cracking the light.
I like the look of tinted headlights but the fly eye stuff up close doesn't look as good imo.
artscot79
"Fly Eyes" tint as it doesn't actually tint the light it just forms a mesh to give the illusion of tint, and comes with a certificate of legality. spoke to vosa who confirm this so youre oppo has no right in reality as it is road legal and mot legal as well as it does not reduce or effect the light output enough only a max of 5% well short of the legal amount and after comparing the before and after on mine the effect is almost un noticeable as vosa stated you can show them the legality they dont have seperate rules that only apply to them
Lenny
[quote name='Stoney871' timestamp='1351104128' post='213402']
I finally got to chat with my oppo in traffic.
Definitive answer concerning flyeye and tinting films on lights is fine for daytime but illegal on the road at night unless off road.
Anything that reduces the effectiveness of lights at night is a no-no.
Sorry guys, don't shoot the messenger.
[/quote]

[quote name='artscot79' timestamp='1351158768' post='213552']
"Fly Eyes" tint as it doesn't actually tint the light it just forms a mesh to give the illusion of tint, and comes with a certificate of legality. spoke to vosa who confirm this so youre oppo has no right in reality as it is road legal and mot legal as well as it does not reduce or effect the light output enough only a max of 5% well short of the legal amount and after comparing the before and after on mine the effect is almost un noticeable as vosa stated you can show them the legality they dont have seperate rules that only apply to them
[/quote]

I faught the law and the fly eyes won!
If you fit some fly eye arthur says you won't get done!
Stoney871
There's always a clause in the fine print though.
It's called officers discretion, if it's of the officers opinion that the tint or film adversely affects the effectiveness of a light then they have the right to apply a prohibition order until the vehicle is inspected at a VOSA certificated garage or facility at the owners cost.
You pay your money and take your chance.
I know which side of the fence I'll fall on.
artscot79
its not a tint though thats the problem and if it was found the officer was wrong and the car passes a vosa test despite providing the evidence the film is legal and passed by vosa i can gaurantee you i wont be paying fort the test the local force will i understand discretion however they are not allowed to make up there own laws in that if the certificate shows it to be road and mot legal at what point does he know better than them theres no point telling you to take it to a vosa testing station when the certificate tells him its already been approved not to knock them mate im just saying they should be dealing with the actual illegal mods
artscot79
[b]Department for transport (VOSA) has made changes to UK lighting regulations on 01/01/12[/b]
I contatcted VOSA's head MOT Technical Standards Engineer to ensure this prduct complies
with the new regulations made on 01/01/12.

Quote from Shaun Martin, BOSA MOT Technical Standards Engineer: "FlyEyesKit film does not
affect light colour and does not adversely reduce output, it is perfectly acceptable on all counts". i cannot see why a vehicle would be sent to vosa testing stations for having this film applied as it has already been passed and is well within the laws as they apply even when tested in dark conditions the light output was more than acceptable with a minimal drop of less than 5% in output, beam patterns or range was not effected should a vehicle be sent assuming the product has been correctly applied it will indeed be passed and deemed road legal, traffic police are aware of these regulations

from flyeye......... FlyEyesKit film has a unique removable adhesive which lasts for up to 5 years after application.
Removing FlyEyesKit takes seconds and will not leave any glue residue behind on your light
casing. If you suspect your vehicle's light casings have been previously sprayed with a clear
lacquer to protect against UV rays or stone chips, or if you have applied other tinting sprays,
do not apply the film to your lights as the removal may cause damage to your existing
lacquered finish.

If you are applying over your main beam lights, ensure that either the bulb has a silvered tip, or
that the fixture has a cowling in front of the bulb. Most UK headlamps are fitted like this.
Our kit can withstand some quite harsh punishment, but the radiated heat from direct exposure
to some high-power, bare-bulb headlamps can go above tolerance levels.

This product when used as recommended is completely legal on UK roads. Very light colours
such as white are not recommended for rear lights or indicators, as daylight can obscure the
appearance of light coming from behind the material. This effect is not noticable with other
colours, and our darker kits provide an unobstructed view of brakes and indicators in any
external light conditions.
Stoney871
As i said, Don't shoot the messenger.
I'm a Dog Handler not a Traffic Officer and in things concerning vehicle regulations and road traffic law I defer to someone who knows his stuff.
If he says no that's good enough for me- he deals with this stuff every day, I don't.
As i said, Officers Discression, If at the time of dealing with something on the roadside, considering road and light/weather conditions, if in the Officers considered and expert opinion the lighting is not deemed satisfactory then if taken to court the Officers word carries more weight.
BTW, as i stated, the VOSA inspection is at the cost of the owner, i guarantee that no refund will be considered.
Sorry but them's the facts.
artscot79
no i understand mate i just mean that the traffic officers arent a law unto themselves thats all as vosa said they cant see a reason why a vehicle would be sent to them for this as the law is specific and this doesnt break that law in anyway and if it was it would be a pass so in honesty its a waste of the oficers time none the less its like any mod if the plod wishes to be an arse about it they will be and pull anyone for anything it just seems they dont pull the right ones for the right reasons flyeye are sending me a copy of the legal certificate and vosa declaration so if i was pulled the officer woint have anything he can say to it
Stoney871
I would be interested in a copy of those documents if you're happy to pass them to me.
I'd like to show them to my oppo to see his reaction to them.
artscot79
i will do when they arrive but if he has doubts he can call vosa and ask VOSA's head MOT Technical Standards Engineer to ensure this prduct complies
with the new regulations made on 01/01/12.

Shaun Martin, BOSA MOT Technical Standards Engineer
Stoney871
Traffic officers get up to date handbooks any time there's a policy or rule update, maybe he hasn't come across flyeye on the road himself so hasn't needed to read up on it.
He's definitive on tinting films though, he comes across that all the time.
artscot79
yeah the films are illegal most common round my way is very blue bulbs bean can exhausts and the dreaded spawn of the devil himself....... evil on 4 wheels with the maddest bodykits biggest wheels and the loudest exhaust the mighty 1.0-1.4 litre corsa pumping out a mind boggling 85bhp and 92ftlb torque in sxi trim with the 1.4 litre engine
Stoney871
There's a really chavved up Honda in my area with a horrible looking manta ray style spoiler, very blue lights and massive exhausts driven by some chavette, I'd love to pull the car over but only seem to see it when I'm off duty.
My day will come.
Stoney871
Talk of the devil, I present the offending piece of c##p,-

[IMG]http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m522/stoney871/Phone%20Uploads/DSC_0223mod.jpg[/IMG]
Brigante
[quote name='Stoney871' timestamp='1351257263' post='213780']
Talk of the devil, I present the offending piece of c##p,-

[IMG]http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m522/stoney871/Phone%20Uploads/DSC_0223mod.jpg[/IMG]
[/quote]

What the #### is that
Stoney871
It was a Civic at one point.
I'll try to get a front photo at some point, it's even worse from there.
Brigante
Jesus. If you found that abandoned n smashed up it could only be an improvement
artscot79
what do you think total rebuild with 300 miles on the foose engine


not mine the sister in laws but it was fun
Stoney871
Very nice, I like classic mustang's.
Brigante
That's beautiful!
artscot79
she had it round when she was up seing the newborn its had a total nuts and bolts rebuild the car was then sent to the states to chip foose who did the paint replaced the trim and done the new engine with foose alloy wheels on it you wanna hear that thing even at idle it makes you smile if i win the lottery im having one and a new one to go with it
Brigante
Love it mate. And sorry its late but congrats on the new born matey. How manys that now?
Lenny
[quote name='Brigante' timestamp='1351258094' post='213783']


What the #### is that
[/quote]
That is a Honda Civic Coupé most likely a 1999 2.0V-tec Japanese JDM import
Fitted with a Mitsubishi Evo 6 rear spoiler and bomex body kit.
I'm not a fan of it but the driver might look better than the motor lol.

Just don't let the revs reach over 3,100rpm... that's when the extra high Cams take full effect like a turbo bwaaaaaaaammmm!!
Stoney871
All I know is that it looks a pile of s##t.
artscot79
i have to agree it does look absoloutely shocking
PezTickles
Hey,

Would it be possible if anyone could post some images of the Fly Eye film on the rear and front lights of a Mk2.5 Focus (preferably with the chrome style front lights).

Cheers


Full Colour Version: Fly Eye Film?
This is a "lo-fi" version of our main content. To view the full version with more information, formatting and images, please click here.
Invision Power Board © 2001-2014 Invision Power Services, Inc.