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GoldenLeaf
Hey everyone! I am new to the forum so be kind.

I have just bought a 56 plate Focus LX 1.8 TDCI and would like to upgrade the side lights, dipped lights and full beam lights. Would it be possible to upgrade to xenon bulbs without needing to replace the whole headlights? I have searched around the net and not found any definate answers to my question. Not sure if you need to know if it's a mk2 or mk2.5, I am not 100% on what the differences are?

Any help would be much appreciated.
PeanuckleJive
Proper xenon headlights require (last time I checked) projector lenses, headlight washer jets, and an auto levelling system.

All those parts don't come cheap, even the scrappies are well aware of the value they hold.
GoldenLeaf
[quote name='PeanuckleJive' timestamp='1350767368' post='212688']
Proper xenon headlights require (last time I checked) projector lenses, headlight washer jets, and an auto levelling system.

All those parts don't come cheap, even the scrappies are well aware of the value they hold.
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So what other options do I have to upgrade side lights, dipped lights and full beam lights, to something that gives the same look as xenons? (white/blueish colour).

Thanks
Brigante
This has been a regularly discussed topic on the forums. Must be at least once a week.

To upgrade to xenon headlights you will need to source the following:

Focus st headlight units
Xenon bulbs
Ballast to power bulbs
Leveling module
Leveling sensors
Headlamp washers
Different shape washer bottle

And as yours is the LX, you will also need a different wiring loom

Then it will all need activating with elmconfig

From ford you will be looking at over a grand for all the parts

If you manage to source them all from breakers your looking at around 500quid but you will have great difficulty.


As a much cheaper option, look into xenon look bulbs. Your looking at things along the line of osram cool blue intense or philips for that clean white look.

Have a read here at a recent discussion on personal bulb preferences:
http://www.fordownersclub.com/forums/topic/35971-what-bulbs/page__hl__%2Bwhat+%2Bbulbs

Here's what my osrams look like:
[img]http://i1256.photobucket.com/albums/ii487/therealbrigante/2012-09-01053623.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i1256.photobucket.com/albums/ii487/therealbrigante/2012-09-01053930.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i1256.photobucket.com/albums/ii487/therealbrigante/2012-08-11%2022.33.56_zps007ef4b1.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i1256.photobucket.com/albums/ii487/therealbrigante/2012-08-11%2022.34.17_zps45d50d63.jpg[/img]
GoldenLeaf
[quote name='Brigante' timestamp='1350769586' post='212701']
This has been a regularly discussed topic on the forums. Must be at least once a week.

To upgrade to xenon headlights you will need to source the following:

Focus st headlight units
Xenon bulbs
Ballast to power bulbs
Leveling module
Leveling sensors
Headlamp washers
Different shape washer bottle

And as yours is the LX, you will also need a different wiring loom

Then it will all need activating with elmconfig

From ford you will be looking at over a grand for all the parts

If you manage to source them all from breakers your looking at around 500quid but you will have great difficulty.


As a much cheaper option, look into xenon look bulbs. Your looking at things along the line of osram cool blue intense or philips for that clean white look.

Have a read here at a recent discussion on personal bulb preferences:
[url="http://www.fordownersclub.com/forums/topic/35971-what-bulbs/page__hl__%2Bwhat+%2Bbulbs"]http://www.fordowner...l__+what +bulbs[/url]

Here's what my osrams look like:
[img]http://i1256.photobucket.com/albums/ii487/therealbrigante/2012-09-01053623.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i1256.photobucket.com/albums/ii487/therealbrigante/2012-09-01053930.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i1256.photobucket.com/albums/ii487/therealbrigante/2012-08-11%2022.33.56_zps007ef4b1.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i1256.photobucket.com/albums/ii487/therealbrigante/2012-08-11%2022.34.17_zps45d50d63.jpg[/img]
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Ah ok I see. Well I have just spent a lot of money on this car already so I can't afford another grand or so... I will have a look at the osram cool blue intense, cos they seem to be quie popular. Do you know what type bulb will fit my focus?

Thanks
alkyz89
you have kind of answered your own question lol just change the bulbs.
easiest way is a trip to halfrauds and look for the bulbs that say bright white or xenon look... but dont pay for fitting charge as there are loads of pics on here that can help you...
with regards to your car id guess its a mk 2...the mk 2.5 is the facelift version, slightly different body and different lights... have you got the clear silver rear lights?
GoldenLeaf
[quote name='alkyz89' timestamp='1350771260' post='212710']
you have kind of answered your own question lol just change the bulbs.
easiest way is a trip to halfrauds and look for the bulbs that say bright white or xenon look... but dont pay for fitting charge as there are loads of pics on here that can help you...
with regards to your car id guess its a mk 2...the mk 2.5 is the facelift version, slightly different body and different lights... have you got the clear silver rear lights?
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No I don't think so, you can kind of see them from this photo:

[img]http://i.imgur.com/cHHMP.jpg[/img]

Thanks for your help :)
Brigante
Your high beams are H1 and your dipped beams are H7. Your side lights are w5w 501 wedge bulbs.

Best place to get everything from would be ebay. Look here:

[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_sacat=0&_nkw=osram+h7+cool+blue+intense&_frs=1"]http://www.ebay.co.u... intense&_frs=1[/url]

[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_nkw=osram+h1+cool+blue+intense&_sacat=0&_odkw=osram+h7+cool+blue+intense&_osacat=0"]http://www.ebay.co.u...tense&_osacat=0[/url]
alkyz89
yea as i thought you have the mk2 mate
Stoney871
If you want to see how bright the Osram bulbs are, this is my video showing side, dipped and high beams.

[url="http://youtu.be/xYbTmKPpcvQ"]http://youtu.be/xYbTmKPpcvQ[/url]
GoldenLeaf
[quote name='Brigante' timestamp='1350772275' post='212713']
Your high beams are H1 and your dipped beams are H7. Your side lights are w5w 501 wedge bulbs.

Best place to get everything from would be ebay. Look here:

[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_sacat=0&_nkw=osram+h7+cool+blue+intense&_frs=1"]http://www.ebay.co.u... intense&_frs=1[/url]

[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_nkw=osram+h1+cool+blue+intense&_sacat=0&_odkw=osram+h7+cool+blue+intense&_osacat=0"]http://www.ebay.co.u...tense&_osacat=0[/url]
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Cool! Really appreciate the help
GoldenLeaf
[quote name='alkyz89' timestamp='1350772745' post='212719']
yea as i thought you have the mk2 mate
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Yeah, thanks.
GoldenLeaf
[quote name='Stoney871' timestamp='1350778090' post='212734']
If you want to see how bright the Osram bulbs are, this is my video showing side, dipped and high beams.

[media]http://youtu.be/xYbTmKPpcvQ[/media]
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Cool, thanks for the video.
Stoney871
Welcome anytime.
Changing bulbs on a MK2 can be a real faff as you have to remove the whole unit but it's easy when you know how.
Brigante
I thought it was easy enough ;) no faff required
GoldenLeaf
[quote name='Brigante' timestamp='1350779955' post='212742']
I thought it was easy enough ;) no faff required
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Hoping it's not going to be too bad, will use this as a rough guide http://www.pickwth.com/blogs/ford-focus-headlight.aspx

Going to Halfords tomorrow to have a look at the bulbs that have been recommened and if I get some I hope to fit them tomorrow also :D

Will post pics here when done.
Brigante
That guides good enough.

As it says, unscrew the screw, then theres 2 clips on the back of the unit, you will need a long ish screwdriver down the back of the unit to push em down, once the 2 clips are done the whole unit should easily pop straight out so be careful not to drop it.

Then the back of the unit comes off very easy then you have access to the bulbs.

Once the bulbs have been changed, line the unit back up n give it a good palm slap back in n it'll click back in place. Then replace the screw.
GoldenLeaf
[quote name='Brigante' timestamp='1350780810' post='212745']
That guides good enough.

As it says, unscrew the screw, then theres 2 clips on the back of the unit, you will need a long ish screwdriver down the back of the unit to push em down, once the 2 clips are done the whole unit should easily pop straight out so be careful not to drop it.

Then the back of the unit comes off very easy then you have access to the bulbs.

Once the bulbs have been changed, line the unit back up n give it a good palm slap back in n it'll click back in place. Then replace the screw.
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Sounds easy enough :) Thanks for the info
Stoney871
Once you've done it a couple of times it takes about 20 minutes to change all headlight bulbs.
The tricky bit is getting the unit out and back into position.
A bit of a twist and a jiggle does the job.
artscot79
20 minutes man youre getting old clive i usually do the headlights sidelights and fogs in 5-10 minutes :rolleyes:
Stoney871
That's including a smoke and a cuppa too ;)
GoldenLeaf
[quote name='Stoney871' timestamp='1350824383' post='212802']
That's including a smoke and a cuppa too ;)
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Well I have just been to Halfords and they only had their own brand bulbs and Bosh.

Going to by these I think:

[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OSRAM-H7-COOL-BLUE-INTENSE-PAIR-12v-55w-GREAT-VALUE-/360497074460?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item53ef4cd11c"]H7[/url]
[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OSRAM-H1-COOL-BLUE-INTENSE-HEADLIGHT-XENON-4200K-12V-55W-NEW-/110908418218?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item19d2a828aa"]H1[/url]
W5W (501) - Either [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/W5W-PHILIPS-BLUEVISION-BLUE-VISION-ULTRA-501-XENON-ULTIMATE-EFFECT-W5W-/110911608120?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item19d2d8d538"]these[/url] or [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OSRAM-COOL-BLUE-W5W-INTENSE-HALOGEN-501-W5W-SIDELIGHTS-OSRAM-INTENSE-W5W-/190706062272?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item2c66f793c0"]these[/url]

Why are the Philips side lights so much cheaper?

Do you like your set up, Clive? Is there a big difference in colour between the Osrams and the Philips bulbs you have on yours?

These bulbs will give me as much light, if not more than the standard halogens, right?
Stoney871
You wilt get much clearer light coverage and the high beams will light up a motorway like a football pitch.
I got the Philips side bulbs as I did order osram ones only to be told they were out of stock so I ordered from someone else only to find it was the same company trading under another name.
The Philips bulbs are good quality though.
The light from the osrams will be much cleaner and show up road signs and cats eyes very well.
The ones you've linked to are exactly the right ones to get.
GoldenLeaf
[quote name='Stoney871' timestamp='1350833040' post='212833']
You wilt get much clearer light coverage and the high beams will light up a motorway like a football pitch.
I got the Philips side bulbs as I did order osram ones only to be told they were out of stock so I ordered from someone else only to find it was the same company trading under another name.
The Philips bulbs are good quality though.
The light from the osrams will be much cleaner and show up road signs and cats eyes very well.
The ones you've linked to are exactly the right ones to get.
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Thanks, I've decided on the Osram side lights from what you have just said.
Slightly off topic I have just gone unscrew my aerial to find it won't come off. The rubber is just twisting... :/ Have you ever had any problems unscrewing yours? Could just be that it hasn't been unscrewed for a while, I don't know as I have only had the car a week.
Stoney871
Get a pair of pliers near the bottom where the spring is wider and closer to the thread on the aerial mount.
artscot79
the ariel ceases easily i tend to apply a bit of grease to the threads as clive said plyers and twist either it will loosen or it will snap no biggy if it did easy to replace nad cheap too must admit the bulbs i have light the road up on high beams like floodlights youll see me coming for miles :rolleyes:
GoldenLeaf
[quote name='artscot79' timestamp='1350910885' post='212951']
the ariel ceases easily i tend to apply a bit of grease to the threads as clive said plyers and twist either it will loosen or it will snap no biggy if it did easy to replace nad cheap too must admit the bulbs i have light the road up on high beams like floodlights youll see me coming for miles :rolleyes:
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Yeah, I will definitely grease the thread if I ever get it off.
k13r4n
Hey guys don't and I repeat don't buy ring automotive xenonultima bulbs mine blew in a month so osram cool blues I think
Brigante
[quote name='k13r4n' timestamp='1350935343' post='213025']
Hey guys don't and I repeat don't buy ring automotive xenonultima bulbs mine blew in a month so osram cool blues I think
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Bloody hell mate you mean the ones you not long uploaded photos od?
artscot79
as ive said before its a fact that many of these dearer bulbs are in fact the same cheap ones you buy on ebay so dont shell out 15-29 quid a set even auto express rated these higher than all the rest http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-FOCUS-II-DIP-BEAM-HEADLIGHT-COBALT-2-PIN-HALOGEN-BULB-12V-55W-H7-/290759038082?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item43b296d482

and look at the price difference
k13r4n
Yeah Charlie that ones was parking up and says to the Mrs I have a bulb out so jumped out and right enough driver side was out but the bulb is chipped on the very top like its cracked under heat or something and yeah artscot bulbs are well cheaper but I dunno so much coz as my grandma says you buy cheap you but dear
Brigante
Must be really crap bulbs then. Obviously ain't good if they cracking like that. How much you pay for em? Must be able to get a refund surely
k13r4n
I got them replaced and cost £29.99 but still going to invest in the osram cool blues and keep them as spares just incase.
GoldenLeaf
[quote name='k13r4n' timestamp='1351019189' post='213222']
I got them replaced and cost £29.99 but still going to invest in the osram cool blues and keep them as spares just incase.
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That sucks man :/ Well my cool blue intense bulbs have arrived, all filaments in tact as far as I can see :D Will upload photos in a bit...
k13r4n
[quote name='GoldenLeaf' timestamp='1351075133' post='213329']


That sucks man :/ Well my cool blue intense bulbs have arrived, all filaments in tact as far as I can see :D Will upload photos in a bit...
[/quote][quote name='GoldenLeaf' timestamp='1351075133' post='213329']


That sucks man :/ Well my cool blue intense bulbs have arrived, all filaments in tact as far as I can see :D Will upload photos in a bit...
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Can you try get before and after pics plz
GoldenLeaf
[quote name='k13r4n' timestamp='1351076751' post='213330']
Can you try get before and after pics plz
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Yeah will do :)


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