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Hassen
Hi guys.

I just picked up my 2010 Ford Focus Zetec 1.6 TDCI today and very happy with the way she drives.

I had a Blaupunkt GTA 470 Amplifier, an Edge 12'' subwoofer and Pioneer TS-Q131C (speakers and twitters Renault fit) in my old car that I would like to transfer to my car. I was just wondering if there was a way to make this work with the factory Ford Headunit (6000 CD with Aux) to be able to plug in my mp3 player or would I need a new headunit.

If I would need a new headunit, this is one that I was considering. If anyone has any experience with it or could recommend a nice affordable touchscreen double din headunit with bluetooth, sub out and aux input, I would greatly appreciate it.

[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/180856832177?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649"]http://www.ebay.co.u...984.m1423.l2649[/url]


Thanks

Hassen
FOCA
The headunit you are considering is modern and high spec, but it requires a seperate module for the sat-nav, at extra cost

you can hook up a reversing camera to most of these units

the ones with the sat-nav built-in/ supplied are more expensive but probably better value

As long as the speakers actually fit it is possible for you to fit your speakers/ amp/ sub to your car/ CD6000

The 6000 is quite an old unit, but it works well and the sound quality is good and the remote works, you can get a Parrot bluetooth hands-free kit for it, and it is possible to fit an aux-in (mp3 player etc) via a device called a modulator

The 6000 will never be as "trendy" as a modern double-din touch-screen head unit, but is not as attractive to theives either!
artscot79
the speakers are all pop riveted in on the focus so youll have to drill out the old ones make the new ones fit then pop rivet them all back in
Lenny
[quote name='Hassen' timestamp='1351810821' post='214883']
Hi guys.

I just picked up my 2010 Ford Focus Zetec 1.6 TDCI today and very happy with the way she drives.

I had a Blaupunkt GTA 470 Amplifier, an Edge 12'' subwoofer and Pioneer TS-Q131C (speakers and twitters Renault fit) in my old car that I would like to transfer to my car. I was just wondering if there was a way to make this work with the factory Ford Headunit (6000 CD with Aux) to be able to plug in my mp3 player or would I need a new headunit.

If I would need a new headunit, this is one that I was considering. If anyone has any experience with it or could recommend a nice affordable touchscreen double din headunit with bluetooth, sub out and aux input, I would greatly appreciate it.

[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/180856832177?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649"]http://www.ebay.co.u...984.m1423.l2649[/url]


Thanks

Hassen
[/quote]

Welcome to the forum,
A sony focus head unit will give better sound from your existing speaker system.
And their are aux out looms available for the ford stereo loom manufactured by connect2 that provide sub/amp outputs
Hassen
[quote name='FOCA' timestamp='1351842062' post='214896']
The headunit you are considering is modern and high spec, but it requires a seperate module for the sat-nav, at extra cost

you can hook up a reversing camera to most of these units

the ones with the sat-nav built-in/ supplied are more expensive but probably better value

As long as the speakers actually fit it is possible for you to fit your speakers/ amp/ sub to your car/ CD6000

The 6000 is quite an old unit, but it works well and the sound quality is good and the remote works, you can get a Parrot bluetooth hands-free kit for it, and it is possible to fit an aux-in (mp3 player etc) via a device called a modulator

The 6000 will never be as "trendy" as a modern double-din touch-screen head unit, but is not as attractive to theives either!
[/quote]


Thanks for the info. I found out that there is already an Aux port in the glovebox built in but it's quite annoying as I can't close the glovebox and control the mp3 player from the Headunit. But, it is managable with the glovebox open and the mp3 player in the centre console.

I think the fancy headunit will have to wait due to lack of funds and I will just try to hook up the sub/amp/speaker combo to the car and make it work with the Ford headunit.

Btw, found out as well that it has bluetooth built in, which was surprisingly easy to connect to my phone(HTC One S works) and the call quality is good. It's possible to connect 6 phones in total according to the manual, but will just try to connect my personal and work phone for the moment.

Sadly due to lack of time, I will be bringing the car to my audio guy here in Tullamore, Ireland and get him to wire the whole thing up even though I would love to get my hands dirty and sort it out myself.
Hassen
[quote name='artscot79' timestamp='1351855483' post='214911']
the speakers are all pop riveted in on the focus so youll have to drill out the old ones make the new ones fit then pop rivet them all back in
[/quote]


Thanks for the info. Saves me the time opening it all up and then being faced with the rivets as I wouldn't be able to sort that out now. Will be bringing the car to the audio guy here and hope he can sort it all out and install the speakers. Fingers crossed.
Hassen
[quote name='Lenny' timestamp='1351865941' post='214927']
Welcome to the forum,
A sony focus head unit will give better sound from your existing speaker system.
And their are aux out looms available for the ford stereo loom manufactured by connect2 that provide sub/amp outputs
[/quote]

Thanks Lenny. Any ideas where I could get the Connect2 loom delivered here and which one it is in case I need it? I will be bringing all the bits to my audio guy here and gonna get him to wire it all up.

Off topic: Your car is awesome. Following the progress of it all. Love the way to Zetec S bodykit looks. You thinking of getting new wheels? Also, how did you find the new remap and exhaust from Souhan? I am planning to get the same done in the next year and wondering how much did it all cost for the remap and exhaust if you don't mind me asking.

Thanks
Lenny
[quote name='Hassen' timestamp='1351875658' post='214937']


Thanks Lenny. Any ideas where I could get the Connect2 loom delivered here and which one it is in case I need it? I will be bringing all the bits to my audio guy here and gonna get him to wire it all up.

Off topic: Your car is awesome. Following the progress of it all. Love the way to Zetec S bodykit looks. You thinking of getting new wheels? Also, how did you find the new remap and exhaust from Souhan? I am planning to get the same done in the next year and wondering how much did it all cost for the remap and exhaust if you don't mind me asking.

Thanks
[/quote]
For best value for money mate your best to buy as much as possible online.
If you don't have a credit card you can get an O2 visa card for 10euro then top it up as you need, then join ebay and paypal.
Here are some links to RCA adaptor kits.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/High-Level-Speaker-Low-Level-RCA-Converter-2-Channel-/260469204287

http://www.crunchusa.net/mx2.html

And thanks for comments regarding the focus.
Its been a long project of mine, remap cost 280 euro and DPF back T304 stainless 2.5" duplex from piper exhaust essex cost 650euro including P&P fitting cost 50euro and my stock exhaust.
So all in cost 980euro to bring the car from 90bhp-120bhp with no smoke and still 62mpg
Took a lot of saving though. And if my job lasts I'll be looking to purchase some 18/19" ST snow flake style alloys next year some time.
Has taken two years to come this far no drinking or smoking just saving and modding.
Hassen
[quote name='Lenny' timestamp='1351889108' post='214964']
For best value for money mate your best to buy as much as possible online.
If you don't have a credit card you can get an O2 visa card for 10euro then top it up as you need, then join ebay and paypal.
Here are some links to RCA adaptor kits.
[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/High-Level-Speaker-Low-Level-RCA-Converter-2-Channel-/260469204287"]http://www.ebay.co.u...l-/260469204287[/url]

[url="http://www.crunchusa.net/mx2.html"]http://www.crunchusa.net/mx2.html[/url]

And thanks for comments regarding the focus.
Its been a long project of mine, remap cost 280 euro and DPF back T304 stainless 2.5" duplex from piper exhaust essex cost 650euro including P&P fitting cost 50euro and my stock exhaust.
So all in cost 980euro to bring the car from 90bhp-120bhp with no smoke and still 62mpg
Took a lot of saving though. And if my job lasts I'll be looking to purchase some 18/19" ST snow flake style alloys next year some time.
Has taken two years to come this far no drinking or smoking just saving and modding.
[/quote]


Absolutely agree with you there Lenny on buying as much as possible online. I just ordered the Green Cotton air filter and expecting it next week after reading your post and fitting guide about it. I was going to get the K&N version as I had one in my old petrol car and it made a marked improvement on fuel consumption, but after reading your post, I changed my mind. Hoping to remap and get a nicer flowing single exhaust once the air filter is in the car from Souhan or ChippedIre.
Anyone has any experience with either?
Hassen
And yea, it's nice having a great little nippy car with great mpg. I think the snowflake wheels will look ace. Found this place for replica alloys if it is of any use:

[url="http://www.alloy-wheels.ie/ford.html"]http://www.alloy-wheels.ie/ford.html[/url]

Does the remap make a big difference in the power delivery? At the moment, there is a big surge in power when the turbo kicks in. This is my first turbo diesel car and still getting used to feathering the throttle unlike the way I drove in the old petrol car lol
Lenny
[quote name='Hassen' timestamp='1351891187' post='214967']

Absolutely agree with you there Lenny on buying as much as possible online. I just ordered the Green Cotton air filter and expecting it next week after reading your post and fitting guide about it. I was going to get the K&N version as I had one in my old petrol car and it made a marked improvement on fuel consumption, but after reading your post, I changed my mind. Hoping to remap and get a nicer flowing single exhaust once the air filter is in the car from Souhan or ChippedIre.
Anyone has any experience with either?

And yea, it's nice having a great little nippy car with great mpg. I think the snowflake wheels will look ace. Found this place for replica alloys if it is of any use:

[url="http://www.alloy-wheels.ie/ford.html"]http://www.alloy-wheels.ie/ford.html[/url]

Does the remap make a big difference in the power delivery? At the moment, there is a big surge in power when the turbo kicks in. This is my first turbo diesel car and still getting used to feathering the throttle unlike the way I drove in the old petrol car lol
[/quote]

Thanks mate,
Glad you found the Green cotton filter thread of use, it will be interesting to read your review on it since you have used K&N in the past.
And regarding experience in dealing with tuning company's in ireland;
Their are only around 17-20 irish members on the forum including me and you mate, and to date I'm the only remapped member of the forum from the emerald isle lol
But I've been to P.J Souhans and I highly recommend their services to others, family run business with a passion for their work.
They are a certified Magnaflow exhaust specialist so quality is assured, and as you can see in the background of the image below they have a full range of stainless steel piping, cats and tips in stock. Also appointment is essentail so log on to souhan.ie to contact them and discuss cost and times etc. The ideal job would be to get the exhaust and remap done on the same day, because the way they remap is:
Scan
your ecu, copy it and email it to Germany then wait for them to configure the remap and email back to them for upload to the ecu.
So it would be two birds one stone if the exhaust was beiñg built while the ecu file was being remapped.

[IMG]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/Image2327.jpg[/IMG]

Regarding the current lack of power then the sudden surge;
I too had that as standard but the Green COTTON filter, 2.5" bore exhaust and remap all played their part in reducing the surge to a smooth incline of performance with 2-3 seconds of lag in 1st Gear only then smooth power with 90kmh in 3rd @ 3,000Rpm and
140kmh in 4th @3,200Rpm then limited to 185kmh in 5th and still 56-62MPG depending how you drive it.

Now regarding your MP3 player cable and the Glovebox.
Open the glovebox,
Plug in cable to Aux socket,
Put rest of cable through the gap in between glovebox hinges,
Close Glovebox,
Connect MP3.
Works well and looks much better, while still allowing full control.

Finally thanks for the link to the alloys,
But they are Mk2 ST and I'm after some Mk2.5 ST alloys, they have extra angles to catch the light and look better in my opinion here they are in a crazy 20 inch:
[IMG]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/discussions/2edt82u.jpg[/IMG]
Lenny
Also when fitting your amplifer,
Their is already a constant 12v positive feed on the drivers side of boot behind the panel. See my guide on fitting a 12v socket in the boot for images of the cable and reference. Also for best sound quality I recommend you run the blue amp to stereo cable on the drivers side to the stereo and run the audio cable on the passenger side to the stereo.
This will prevent any unwanted Hum or pop on the sub.
I used to like watts of Bass too lol

[IMG]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/Picture005-1.jpg[/IMG]

Not anymore though,
Traded those baby's for two of these in the back instead lol :

[IMG]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/discussions/Image1838.jpg[/IMG]
Preee
Regarding the AUX , what i did to my Nephew's was removed glove box , and then removed the AUX , then fed his cable through a hole in the back of his Ashtray chubby hole and connected it to the AUX , that way he could close the garage door on the Ash tray and hide his cable.
Hassen
[quote name='Lenny' timestamp='1352016775' post='215129']
Thanks mate,
Glad you found the Green cotton filter thread of use, it will be interesting to read your review on it since you have used K&N in the past.
And regarding experience in dealing with tuning company's in ireland;
Their are only around 17-20 irish members on the forum including me and you mate, and to date I'm the only remapped member of the forum from the emerald isle lol
But I've been to P.J Souhans and I highly recommend their services to others, family run business with a passion for their work.
They are a certified Magnaflow exhaust specialist so quality is assured, and as you can see in the background of the image below they have a full range of stainless steel piping, cats and tips in stock. Also appointment is essentail so log on to souhan.ie to contact them and discuss cost and times etc. The ideal job would be to get the exhaust and remap done on the same day, because the way they remap is:
Scan
your ecu, copy it and email it to Germany then wait for them to configure the remap and email back to them for upload to the ecu.
So it would be two birds one stone if the exhaust was beiñg built while the ecu file was being remapped.

[img]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/Image2327.jpg[/img]

Regarding the current lack of power then the sudden surge;
I too had that as standard but the Green COTTON filter, 2.5" bore exhaust and remap all played their part in reducing the surge to a smooth incline of performance with 2-3 seconds of lag in 1st Gear only then smooth power with 90kmh in 3rd @ 3,000Rpm and
140kmh in 4th @3,200Rpm then limited to 185kmh in 5th and still 56-62MPG depending how you drive it.

Now regarding your MP3 player cable and the Glovebox.
Open the glovebox,
Plug in cable to Aux socket,
Put rest of cable through the gap in between glovebox hinges,
Close Glovebox,
Connect MP3.
Works well and looks much better, while still allowing full control.

Finally thanks for the link to the alloys,
But they are Mk2 ST and I'm after some Mk2.5 ST alloys, they have extra angles to catch the light and look better in my opinion here they are in a crazy 20 inch:
[img]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/discussions/2edt82u.jpg[/img]
[/quote]


Green Cotton filter is being shipped and should be fitted some time this week. Will update you on how I find it compared to the K&N filter.

Definitely thinking of the remap now after the airfilter is in and also trying to convince my father in law to get his 90bhp Ford Focus Style to be remapped. Any suggestions about exhausts? I don't have a big budget and want to keep the spending to a minimum as most of my budget went towards purchasing the car. I know nothing about them as in what diameter the tubes need to be to fit etc. I found this online and quite like it. Would it fit my Focus without making it ridiculously loud and still getting a better performance than the standard exhaust with the remap and the air filter? Will probably get it done at Souhan after your recommendation

[url="http://www.adverts.ie/car-parts-accessories/sport-exhaust/2147277"]http://www.adverts.ie/car-parts-accessories/sport-exhaust/2147277[/url]


Thanks for the tip about the Aux. Did it and worked a treat. Looks much better than driving around with the glovebox open and stuff falling out at every bend lol

And, damn those 20 inch wheels look slick. Unsure about ride quality with such big wheels and myself prefer having 17 inch wheels with the added comfort on the lovely irish roads we have around the midlands lol
Hassen
[quote name='Lenny' timestamp='1352026154' post='215140']
Also when fitting your amplifer,
Their is already a constant 12v positive feed on the drivers side of boot behind the panel. See my guide on fitting a 12v socket in the boot for images of the cable and reference. Also for best sound quality I recommend you run the blue amp to stereo cable on the drivers side to the stereo and run the audio cable on the passenger side to the stereo.
This will prevent any unwanted Hum or pop on the sub.
I used to like watts of Bass too lol

[img]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/Picture005-1.jpg[/img]

Not anymore though,
Traded those baby's for two of these in the back instead lol :

[img]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/discussions/Image1838.jpg[/img]
[/quote]

That is a great idea about using the 12v port to power the amp in the boot. Will just have to run cables to the headunit then and keep them separate on each side of the car. I am not a big bass head but I do love a decent sound system as I drive a fair bit to work and at work and it keeps me sane on the roads.
Plus, the only time I get to crank the music is when I am driving alone as I have one of those baby seats myself in the back for my lil one. I like how you got 2 at the back of yours and colour coordinated as well. Nice!
Hassen
[quote name='Preee' timestamp='1352027679' post='215145']
Regarding the AUX , what i did to my Nephew's was removed glove box , and then removed the AUX , then fed his cable through a hole in the back of his Ashtray chubby hole and connected it to the AUX , that way he could close the garage door on the Ash tray and hide his cable.
[/quote]

Nice. Might consider that if I get a bit of time and the weather gets better. Sounds like a very slick way to disguise where the Aux input is and retain functionality. Any chance of any pictures of the end result?

Thanks
Dave the Dude
[quote name='Hassen' timestamp='1352072183' post='215249']
Nice. Might consider that if I get a bit of time and the weather gets better. Sounds like a very slick way to disguise where the Aux input is and retain functionality. Any chance of any pictures of the end result?

Thanks
[/quote]
Great idea for us non smokers!
Stoney871
The aux cable through the ashtray area worksa treat.
I did it myself when I fitted my tray a few months back.
I use a Griffin charger/controller for my iPod and the cable is ideally placed to plug straight into the controller and looks very tidy.
Lenny
[quote name='Hassen' timestamp='1352071825' post='215244']

Green Cotton filter is being shipped and should be fitted some time this week. Will update you on how I find it compared to the K&N filter.

Definitely thinking of the remap now after the airfilter is in and also trying to convince my father in law to get his 90bhp Ford Focus Style to be remapped. Any suggestions about exhausts? I don't have a big budget and want to keep the spending to a minimum as most of my budget went towards purchasing the car. I know nothing about them as in what diameter the tubes need to be to fit etc. I found this online and quite like it. Would it fit my Focus without making it ridiculously loud and still getting a better performance than the standard exhaust with the remap and the air filter? Will probably get it done at Souhan after your recommendation

[url="http://www.adverts.ie/car-parts-accessories/sport-exhaust/2147277"]http://www.adverts.ie/car-parts-accessories/sport-exhaust/2147277[/url]

Thanks for the tip about the Aux. Did it and worked a treat. Looks much better than driving around with the glovebox open and stuff falling out at every bend lol

And, damn those 20 inch wheels look slick. Unsure about ride quality with such big wheels and myself prefer having 17 inch wheels with the added comfort on the lovely irish roads we have around the midlands lol
[/quote]

No problem
Regarding the back box it won't fit your focus because it is designed to replace the rear silencer back box of the car.
And the design of the focus exhaust system has the back box fitted in front of the rear axle with a pipe leading over the rear axle to the underside of the rear bumper.
Diesel engines don't get loud and raspy. They get low and grumble like an impreza
A 2.5" internal bore pipe is recommended for performance.
And a single exit system would be around 300-450 from souhans depending on what grade of steel you choose but contact Darren at souhans to confirm pricing.
You would require a 2.5" pipe with flange to bolt on to the flexi pipe that leads from the dpf
A high flow back box
Then another 3feet of 2.5" pipe welded to the back box
Followed by a tip of your choice.

It will take around a month for the DPF to clear allowing the higher pressure to flow and sound.
Here is what mine now sounds like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tV-SG1YAiXA&feature=youtube_gdata_player

No sound difference when driving at any consistant speeds.
Just growels when you accelerate to overtake or pick up speed.

But no petrol exhaust parts are compatable with diesel.
The silincers are a completly different design inside to achieve the results.

Regarding the 20" alloys mate
I won't be fitting them neither for the same reason with the roads. Best leave them on jeeps but would look bad ass lol
Maybe fit 19" at the most next summer.
Hassen
[quote name='Stoney871' timestamp='1352085479' post='215260']
The aux cable through the ashtray area worksa treat.
I did it myself when I fitted my tray a few months back.
I use a Griffin charger/controller for my iPod and the cable is ideally placed to plug straight into the controller and looks very tidy.
[/quote]


Cool. Something to keep in mind next. Don't need the Griffin Ipod thing as I don't use an Ipod, so will just use the 3.5mm cable. Cheers
Hassen
[quote name='Lenny' timestamp='1352103508' post='215273']
No problem
Regarding the back box it won't fit your focus because it is designed to replace the rear silencer back box of the car.
And the design of the focus exhaust system has the back box fitted in front of the rear axle with a pipe leading over the rear axle to the underside of the rear bumper.
Diesel engines don't get loud and raspy. They get low and grumble like an impreza
A 2.5" internal bore pipe is recommended for performance.
And a single exit system would be around 300-450 from souhans depending on what grade of steel you choose but contact Darren at souhans to confirm pricing.
You would require a 2.5" pipe with flange to bolt on to the flexi pipe that leads from the dpf
A high flow back box
Then another 3feet of 2.5" pipe welded to the back box
Followed by a tip of your choice.

It will take around a month for the DPF to clear allowing the higher pressure to flow and sound.
Here is what mine now sounds like:

[url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tV-SG1YAiXA&feature=youtube_gdata_player"]https://www.youtube....be_gdata_player[/url]

No sound difference when driving at any consistant speeds.
Just growels when you accelerate to overtake or pick up speed.

But no petrol exhaust parts are compatable with diesel.
The silincers are a completly different design inside to achieve the results.

Regarding the 20" alloys mate
I won't be fitting them neither for the same reason with the roads. Best leave them on jeeps but would look bad ass lol
Maybe fit 19" at the most next summer.
[/quote]


Thanks for all the info about the exhausts Lenny. I will get in touch with Souhan and see what they can do for me. Maybe they might be able to do a deal for a remap and high flow exhaust together.

Also, I received the Green Cotton filter in the post today. Was so excited to fit it that I went out in the cold at 9pm, armed with a head mounted torch from my wife's camping gear and your tutorial to get it fitted. Not much of a problem with the right tools and 20 min total tinkering time. Thanks a million for the guide as it saved me all the trouble of finding bolts and how to get the filter in. My paper filter inside the box was bent as well. I wonder what the Ford dealers do to bend them!
Didn't get a chance to drive the car yet but I am sure it will be responsive and better. The filter will pay for itself by saving me more diesel as was the case with the K&N filter in my old car. I also bought another one for my father in law's Focus 1.6TDCI as a christmas gift.
Will have to get him to drive my car after the remap :D
Stoney871
[quote name='Hassen' timestamp='1352156602' post='215429']
Cool. Something to keep in mind next. Don't need the Griffin Ipod thing as I don't use an Ipod, so will just use the 3.5mm cable. Cheers
[/quote]
The style of cable i used was this one-
[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-RADIO-CD-AUX-IN-CABLE-FOR-MP3-iPOD-iPHONE-HTC-iPAD-BLACKBERRY-ADAPTOR-LEAD-/160891936736?pt=UK_In_Car_Technology&hash=item2575e81fe0"]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-RADIO-CD-AUX-IN-CABLE-FOR-MP3-iPOD-iPHONE-HTC-iPAD-BLACKBERRY-ADAPTOR-LEAD-/160891936736?pt=UK_In_Car_Technology&hash=item2575e81fe0[/url]

If you use the original Aux connector you'll find two things-
1. To remove the socket from the glove box you have to destroy it as the socket locks together and is impossible to remove without a bit of butchering.
2. If you remove just the cable from the back of the socket there is only a block connector which is a faff to cut off and rewire.
Far better to just pull the radio forward, unplug the original aux c-block and tape it out of the way then replace it with the one i have linked to.

[IMG]http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m522/stoney871/images1-1.jpg[/IMG]
The existing aux connector is where the green one is in the photo.
Hassen
[quote name='Stoney871' timestamp='1352161815' post='215435']
The style of cable i used was this one-
[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-RADIO-CD-AUX-IN-CABLE-FOR-MP3-iPOD-iPHONE-HTC-iPAD-BLACKBERRY-ADAPTOR-LEAD-/160891936736?pt=UK_In_Car_Technology&hash=item2575e81fe0"]http://www.ebay.co.u...=item2575e81fe0[/url]

If you use the original Aux connector you'll find two things-
1. To remove the socket from the glove box you have to destroy it as the socket locks together and is impossible to remove without a bit of butchering.
2. If you remove just the cable from the back of the socket there is only a block connector which is a faff to cut off and rewire.
Far better to just pull the radio forward, unplug the original aux c-block and tape it out of the way then replace it with the one i have linked to.

[img]http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m522/stoney871/images1-1.jpg[/img]
The existing aux connector is where the green one is in the photo.
[/quote]


Thanks for that as it's exactly what I wanted to do with a new cable that I can re-route anywhere I wanted as I find the cable dangling from the glovebox a bit annoying.
I reckon it's something I can tackle myself by taking off the trim, bringing the stereo forward and hooking up the new cable.

Cheers
Stoney871
Just make sure you have your radio code before removal.
Seeing as your car is a 2.5 you don't have the 12v socket hole in the cubbyhole, but you can loosen the heater dials and the demister switch panels a bit on one side and slide the cable down behind them to come out just above the cubby.
Hassen
[quote name='Stoney871' timestamp='1352243607' post='215612']
Just make sure you have your radio code before removal.
Seeing as your car is a 2.5 you don't have the 12v socket hole in the cubbyhole, but you can loosen the heater dials and the demister switch panels a bit on one side and slide the cable down behind them to come out just above the cubby.
[/quote]

That's what I was thinking of doing without the need to drill holes and butcher the dash.

My car was an English import into Ireland and as a result, I don't think I have the radio code. Would it be available through a normal Ford Dealer or what would be the proper way to get the radio code for my unit.

Thanks
FOCA
[quote name='Lenny' timestamp='1352103508' post='215273']
No problem
Regarding the back box it won't fit your focus because it is designed to replace the rear silencer back box of the car.
And the design of the focus exhaust system has the back box fitted in front of the rear axle with a pipe leading over the rear axle to the underside of the rear bumper.
Diesel engines don't get loud and raspy. They get low and grumble like an impreza
A 2.5" internal bore pipe is recommended for performance.
And a single exit system would be around 300-450 from souhans depending on what grade of steel you choose but contact Darren at souhans to confirm pricing.
You would require a 2.5" pipe with flange to bolt on to the flexi pipe that leads from the dpf
A high flow back box
Then another 3feet of 2.5" pipe welded to the back box
Followed by a tip of your choice.

It will take around a month for the DPF to clear allowing the higher pressure to flow and sound.
Here is what mine now sounds like:

[url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tV-SG1YAiXA&feature=youtube_gdata_player"]https://www.youtube....be_gdata_player[/url]

No sound difference when driving at any consistant speeds.
Just growels when you accelerate to overtake or pick up speed.

But no petrol exhaust parts are compatable with diesel.
The silincers are a completly different design inside to achieve the results.

Regarding the 20" alloys mate
I won't be fitting them neither for the same reason with the roads. Best leave them on jeeps but would look bad ass lol
Maybe fit 19" at the most next summer.
[/quote]

Exellent info on the exhaust - to get the best benifit from the 2.5" system, ideally the entire syetem should be (at least) that diameter, right from the manifold to the tip,and if, say the downpipe is smaller(eg 2-1/4") or any other part of the exhaust system, its liable to "hold it back"

The cat and or DPF is liable to be restrictive, some tuners/ fitters offer replacements for that as well (stainless steel decat/ DPF removal) with an electronic DPF delete in software and a "custom" remap, as a package deal - this is likely to give better improvements in power

The car will not fail a 2012 UK MOT with a decat/ DPF delete - only particulates are measured on a diesel (for now, anyway)
Hassen
[quote name='FOCA' timestamp='1352255159' post='215619']
Exellent info on the exhaust - to get the best benifit from the 2.5" system, ideally the entire syetem should be (at least) that diameter, right from the manifold to the tip,and if, say the downpipe is smaller(eg 2-1/4") or any other part of the exhaust system, its liable to "hold it back"

The cat and or DPF is liable to be restrictive, some tuners/ fitters offer replacements for that as well (stainless steel decat/ DPF removal) with an electronic DPF delete in software and a "custom" remap, as a package deal - this is likely to give better improvements in power

The car will not fail a 2012 UK MOT with a decat/ DPF delete - only particulates are measured on a diesel (for now, anyway)
[/quote]


That's good to know now as I was totally clueless about exhaust systems.
Quick question and it might not be a straight forward one: Is getting a performance exhaust worth the extra money? Or shall I just get the car remap and be happy with that. What I am trying to decide on is, how much of a difference, on a day to day driving basis be between the two options. I think this is going to be tough to justify lol
FOCA
i agree, a bluefin/ remap or digital tuning box would probably give yo an extra 20 - 30HP (bluefin claim 21Hp and 37Nm increase)

Even a complete 2-1/2" exhaust system with decat and DPF delete is unlikely to see as much gain as that, with + 10HP being more realistic (depends on the car etc)

But the freer-flowing exhaust helps reduce frottle lag, improve pick-up and throttle response (on a tupbo car - the reduction in back-pressure can help the turbine spool/ spin up quicker) and can improve the MPG a little

If you were to replace a perfectly good exhaust with a custom ss exhaust, yes, it would be tough to justify, but if you wait till your exhaust needs replaced anyway, upgrading it to a stainless system makes more sense (same goes for brakes/ clutches etc- upgrading them when the old ones wear out) - a stainless system shoulkd last for years and should increase the value/ desirability of the car as well
Lenny
[quote name='FOCA' timestamp='1352351686' post='215773']
i agree,
If you were to replace a perfectly good exhaust with a custom ss exhaust, yes, it would be tough to justify, but if you wait till your exhaust needs replaced anyway, upgrading it to a stainless system makes more sense
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Now you sound like my farther when he saw my exhaust upgrade,
"Nice exhaust, what was wrong with the original system?"
I was thinking "nothing thats probablly why souhans kept it lmao"
Hassen
[quote name='FOCA' timestamp='1352351686' post='215773']
i agree, a bluefin/ remap or digital tuning box would probably give yo an extra 20 - 30HP (bluefin claim 21Hp and 37Nm increase)

Even a complete 2-1/2" exhaust system with decat and DPF delete is unlikely to see as much gain as that, with + 10HP being more realistic (depends on the car etc)

But the freer-flowing exhaust helps reduce frottle lag, improve pick-up and throttle response (on a tupbo car - the reduction in back-pressure can help the turbine spool/ spin up quicker) and can improve the MPG a little

If you were to replace a perfectly good exhaust with a custom ss exhaust, yes, it would be tough to justify, but if you wait till your exhaust needs replaced anyway, upgrading it to a stainless system makes more sense (same goes for brakes/ clutches etc- upgrading them when the old ones wear out) - a stainless system shoulkd last for years and should increase the value/ desirability of the car as well
[/quote]


That makes perfect sense and what I was doing on my previous car. Replace worn out parts with better upgrades as required. That is totally justifiable I think.

Intrigued about Bluefin. Anyone has any experience about it and how to do it? I was under the impression that it could be used again in time a different car and you could just buy another map specific for another car. Any thoughts and how cost effective is it?
Hassen
[quote name='Lenny' timestamp='1352381719' post='215806']
Now you sound like my farther when he saw my exhaust upgrade,
"Nice exhaust, what was wrong with the original system?"
I was thinking "nothing thats probablly why souhans kept it lmao"
[/quote]

Lol, your dad's thinking makes perfect sense and I think I would agree with him. Reckon I will wait and see how much it will cost in total and then decide. Hard to justify such an expense these days on a perfectly good car.
Stoney871
[quote name='Hassen' timestamp='1352417262' post='215899']
Intrigued about Bluefin. Anyone has any experience about it and how to do it? I was under the impression that it could be used again in time a different car and you could just buy another map specific for another car. Any thoughts and how cost effective is it?
[/quote]

You buy the Bluefin with the licence to use on one car.
If you want to use it on another car you just pay for another licence when you apply for another remap download.
Take it from me that on a TDCI it's well worth it.
I gained 33bhp and bags more torque.
Hassen
[quote name='Stoney871' timestamp='1352420490' post='215910']
You buy the Bluefin with the licence to use on one car.
If you want to use it on another car you just pay for another licence when you apply for another remap download.
Take it from me that on a TDCI it's well worth it.
I gained 33bhp and bags more torque.
[/quote]

Thanks for the info. Just got a quote from Souhan's, here in Ireland, for a custom remap (Performance) and a better free flowing back box with a new tip for 445 euro. This is a special offer they are doing at the moment. I mentioned the Ford Owners Club and how Lenny had his car done recently and recommended their place and Darren.
Reckon I will get it done as it's too good of a deal to miss. Tomorrow getting the sound system fitted in the morning and that should be a hoot after!
Fun times ahead :)
Lenny
[quote name='Hassen' timestamp='1352471959' post='215972']


Thanks for the info. Just got a quote from Souhan's, here in Ireland, for a custom remap (Performance) and a better free flowing back box with a new tip for 445 euro. This is a special offer they are doing at the moment. I mentioned the Ford Owners Club and how Lenny had his car done recently and recommended their place and Darren.
Reckon I will get it done as it's too good of a deal to miss. Tomorrow getting the sound system fitted in the morning and that should be a hoot after!
Fun times ahead :)
[/quote]
Well done mate,
Cost me 480 for remap, oil change and fitting of my own exhaust lol good to see you got the discount, grab with both hands son.
Hassen
[quote name='Lenny' timestamp='1352510373' post='216081']
Well done mate,
Cost me 480 for remap, oil change and fitting of my own exhaust lol good to see you got the discount, grab with both hands son.
[/quote]

Wow...Didn't realise by how much it was a discount, given the fact that you already had your own exhaust. Did you get the stainless steel pipes instead of the original ones in the car? So far as I understand, Darren was saying they would fit a better more free flowing backbox and a nice tip at the end.

Also, fitted the new Green Cotton air filter last thursday. So far, my combined mpg went from 53 to about 58 mpg. These are rough figures and I think the engine ecu will get used to it before I see the full potential. Also, like yours Lenny, my paper air filter was bent inside the box and was basically useless. The car revs much more freely now and it's very similar to my experience with the old car and the K&N air filter.

One thing I know for sure is, I am totally addicted to the torque of the diesel engine. It's a lot of fun!
Lenny
[quote name='Hassen' timestamp='1352668079' post='216348']
Wow...Didn't realise by how much it was a discount, given the fact that you already had your own exhaust. Did you get the stainless steel pipes instead of the original ones in the car? So far as I understand, Darren was saying they would fit a better more free flowing backbox and a nice tip at the end.

Also, fitted the new Green Cotton air filter last thursday. So far, my combined mpg went from 53 to about 58 mpg. These are rough figures and I think the engine ecu will get used to it before I see the full potential. Also, like yours Lenny, my paper air filter was bent inside the box and was basically useless. The car revs much more freely now and it's very similar to my experience with the old car and the K&N air filter.

One thing I know for sure is, I am totally addicted to the torque of the diesel engine. It's a lot of fun!
[/quote]

You will really love the torque after the remap mate lol purge behind cars in 5th in fast lane rocking up and down
Mine is stainless from the flexi pipe to tip. The same as what you were quoted except mine has stainless pipe from back box to flexi pipe.
Im sure it wouldnt cost much more to get that section stainless too.
I.e from back box to flexi in 2.5" stainless same as back box and tip. All worth every penny mate, strange fords stardard filters are poo but good to have the better one fitted prior to remap.
Here are some pics of the under side.

[IMG]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/Image2316.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/Image2321.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/Image2322.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/Image2323.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/Image2319.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/Image2317.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/Image2316.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/Image2312.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/Image2311.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/Image2315.jpg[/IMG]

And this is the stock setup

[IMG]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/Image2309.jpg[/IMG]


Hassen
Back on topic for a min:

I want to replace the front door speakers. Anyone can point me to the correct sizes and some recommended speaker models please?
As long that the speakers are not too expensive and deliver good sound quality, that will fit the bill.

Thanks
Hassen
[quote name='Lenny' timestamp='1352674341' post='216362']
You will really love the torque after the remap mate lol purge behind cars in 5th in fast lane rocking up and down
Mine is stainless from the flexi pipe to tip. The same as what you were quoted except mine has stainless pipe from back box to flexi pipe.
Im sure it wouldnt cost much more to get that section stainless too.
I.e from back box to flexi in 2.5" stainless same as back box and tip. All worth every penny mate, strange fords stardard filters are poo but good to have the better one fitted prior to remap.
Here are some pics of the under side.

[img]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/Image2316.jpg[/img]

[img]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/Image2321.jpg[/img]

[img]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/Image2322.jpg[/img]

[img]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/Image2323.jpg[/img]

[img]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/Image2319.jpg[/img]

[img]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/Image2317.jpg[/img]

[img]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/Image2316.jpg[/img]

[img]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/Image2312.jpg[/img]

[img]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/Image2311.jpg[/img]

[img]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/Image2315.jpg[/img]

And this is the stock setup

[img]http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/lennymanwoods/Image2309.jpg[/img]
[/quote]

That looks ace Lenny. Very clean and professional job. That's it, gonna get the car booked in Souhan once I come back from holidays in 2 weeks. Will inquire how much more it would cost for the whole thing to be stainless steel. And, knowing me, I will probably ask them to give me back my old exhaust to keep.

If anyone needs a second hand exhaust for a Focus mk2.5 1.6 TDCI, get in touch with me in a couple of weeks and we can arrange something.
Lenny
[quote name='Hassen' timestamp='1352678420' post='216370']
Back on topic for a min:

I want to replace the front door speakers. Anyone can point me to the correct sizes and some recommended speaker models please?
As long that the speakers are not too expensive and deliver good sound quality, that will fit the bill.

Thanks
[/quote]
Try Caraudiodirect.com
They are very compeditive on price and supply brand name direct replacment speakers for most make and models.
This way you can be certain that its a straight swap from stock speaker and the sound quality from the upgrade will actually be better than your existing one because it would be designed to specificly replace it.
Hassen
[quote name='Lenny' timestamp='1352752222' post='216478']
Try Caraudiodirect.com
They are very compeditive on price and supply brand name direct replacment speakers for most make and models.
This way you can be certain that its a straight swap from stock speaker and the sound quality from the upgrade will actually be better than your existing one because it would be designed to specificly replace it.
[/quote]

Cheers Lenny. I was just wondering if there was a way to fit my old speakers to my Focus. They are 13cm Pioneer like these:

http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/pioneer-ts-q131c-renault.html

Any ideas if this would be possible just to save me buying another set of speakers and selling the ones I have already.

Thanks
Stoney871
The Focus will easily take a 13cm speaker with the relevant oval adaptors like these-

[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SAK-1514-Ford-Focus-Ka-Front-Rear-Speaker-Adaptor-Kit-/260844182389?pt=UK_In_Car_Technology&hash=item3cbb865b75"]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SAK-1514-Ford-Focus-Ka-Front-Rear-Speaker-Adaptor-Kit-/260844182389?pt=UK_In_Car_Technology&hash=item3cbb865b75[/url]

The wiring adaptors you need to convert a Focus wiring connector to a standard bayonet connector are these-

[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Focus-KA-Speaker-Adaptor-Lead-PC2-815-/250824993361?pt=UK_In_Car_Technology&hash=item3a6655aa51"]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Focus-KA-Speaker-Adaptor-Lead-PC2-815-/250824993361?pt=UK_In_Car_Technology&hash=item3a6655aa51[/url]

Or if you want to change it all up a couple of pairs of these-

[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PIONEER-TS-H687-CUSTOM-FIT-SPEAKERS-FORD-FOCUS-1-PAIR-/160358356513?pt=UK_In_Car_Technology&hash=item25561a5621"]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PIONEER-TS-H687-CUSTOM-FIT-SPEAKERS-FORD-FOCUS-1-PAIR-/160358356513?pt=UK_In_Car_Technology&hash=item25561a5621[/url]
Lenny
[quote name='Hassen' timestamp='1352761139' post='216503']


Cheers Lenny. I was just wondering if there was a way to fit my old speakers to my Focus. They are 13cm Pioneer like these:

http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/pioneer-ts-q131c-renault.html

Any ideas if this would be possible just to save me buying another set of speakers and selling the ones I have already.

Thanks
[/quote]
No 13cm speaker will be better than the 6.5 inch component system currently fitted.
The 13cm has built in tweeter which means all sound comes from one unit. Your stock system is better as each Speaker and tweeter work togeather to bring the different sounds controlled by a crossover box fitted to each unit.
13cm will fit with reduicer brackets but sound is better on component systems.
Hassen
[quote name='Stoney871' timestamp='1352779838' post='216512']
The Focus will easily take a 13cm speaker with the relevant oval adaptors like these-

[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SAK-1514-Ford-Focus-Ka-Front-Rear-Speaker-Adaptor-Kit-/260844182389?pt=UK_In_Car_Technology&hash=item3cbb865b75"]http://www.ebay.co.u...=item3cbb865b75[/url]

The wiring adaptors you need to convert a Focus wiring connector to a standard bayonet connector are these-

[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Focus-KA-Speaker-Adaptor-Lead-PC2-815-/250824993361?pt=UK_In_Car_Technology&hash=item3a6655aa51"]http://www.ebay.co.u...=item3a6655aa51[/url]

Or if you want to change it all up a couple of pairs of these-

[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PIONEER-TS-H687-CUSTOM-FIT-SPEAKERS-FORD-FOCUS-1-PAIR-/160358356513?pt=UK_In_Car_Technology&hash=item25561a5621"]http://www.ebay.co.u...=item25561a5621[/url]
[/quote]



Thanks for all the info. I think I will go with getting a set of new speakers in the end as I think this would sound better with my old sub and amp.

Cheers
Hassen
[quote name='Lenny' timestamp='1352788535' post='216514']
No 13cm speaker will be better than the 6.5 inch component system currently fitted.
The 13cm has built in tweeter which means all sound comes from one unit. Your stock system is better as each Speaker and tweeter work togeather to bring the different sounds controlled by a crossover box fitted to each unit.
13cm will fit with reduicer brackets but sound is better on component systems.
[/quote]


That does make sense. Will be putting new speakers with the amp and sub which are now wired around the car but not yet to the headunit due to not having the right cable.

These are my two options so far for speakers:


Pioneer
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PIONEER-TS-H687-CUSTOM-FIT-SPEAKERS-FORD-MONDEO-1-PAIR-/380421343890?pt=UK_In_Car_Technology&hash=item5892e10a92&_uhb=1


JBL
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JBL-gto8628-5x7-6x8-2-way-car-door-speakers-180watt-for-Ford-Mazda-Jaguar-/110920810940?pt=UK_In_Car_Technology&hash=item19d36541bc&_uhb=1


Would love to hear if anyone has any experience or thoughts about them as I know very little of speakers. Also, whether to wire them to my amplifier or just straight to the headunit as I hear conflicting ideas about that.

Thanks
FOCA
The Jbl look good with their adjustable tweeter volume and angle, Jbl is a high end brand respected in PA and pro-audio circles, it is a 2 way system (a 3-way is un-nessesary in this size/ power of system)

it has the efficiency of the speaker (92db) which helps(if you apply 1W, the speaker will produce 92db, at 1meter, on-axis ), and the pioneer is an outgoing model, lastly the Jbl is a bit less expensive than the Pioneer

Watch out for the 2ohms impeadance and that the amp can drive that (whether built into the head unil or seperate)

you would normally use the head unit to drive the door speakers(there is usually 4 "seperate" amps/ outputs in a head unit) and a seperate amp to drive the sub.(if your amp was designed for a sub it will only have one output (for the sub) anyway ) really loud/ powerful serious installations might use multiple seperate amps
Hassen
[quote name='FOCA' timestamp='1353443066' post='217708']
The Jbl look good with their adjustable tweeter volume and angle, Jbl is a high end brand respected in PA and pro-audio circles, it is a 2 way system (a 3-way is un-nessesary in this size/ power of system)

it has the efficiency of the speaker (92db) which helps(if you apply 1W, the speaker will produce 92db, at 1meter, on-axis ), and the pioneer is an outgoing model, lastly the Jbl is a bit less expensive than the Pioneer

Watch out for the 2ohms impeadance and that the amp can drive that (whether built into the head unil or seperate)

you would normally use the head unit to drive the door speakers(there is usually 4 "seperate" amps/ outputs in a head unit) and a seperate amp to drive the sub.(if your amp was designed for a sub it will only have one output (for the sub) anyway ) really loud/ powerful serious installations might use multiple seperate amps
[/quote]


Thanks a million for the info. That made my options a bit clearer now.
The amp and sub combo I have is a Blaupunkt GT470 amp and a 12'' Edge amplifier that was in my old car. Reckon the amp would be able to drive the speakers if the headunit cannot. Might be a bit trickier to do, but it might make the sound a bit better. Any thoughts?
FOCA
Wow thats a serious amp- i looked up the specs -
[b] [size="2"]Blaupunkt GTA470 SF features[/size][/b]
[list]
[*][size="2"][size="2"]Max total power: 840 (1 channel mode) [/size][/size]
[list]
[*][size="2"][size="2"]RMS power 4 ohms: 4 x 70 watts / 2 x 200 watts [/size][/size]
[list]
[*][size="2"][size="2"]RMS power 2 ohms: 4 x 100 watts [/size][/size]
[list]
[*][size="2"][size="2"]Max. power 4 ohms: 4 x 140 watts / 2 x 420 watts [/size][/size]
[list]
[*][size="2"][size="2"]Number of channels: 4/3/2 [/size][/size]
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[*][size="2"][size="2"]Speaker outputs: 4 [/size][/size]
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[*][size="2"][size="2"]Inputs: Cinch [/size][/size]
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[*][size="2"][size="2"]Frequency range: 10 – 30,000 Hz [/size][/size]
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[*][size="2"][size="2"]Stability: 2 ohms [/size][/size]
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[*][size="2"][size="2"]Signal/noise ratio: > 92 dB/A [/size][/size]
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[*][size="2"][size="2"]Gain adjust: 0.1 – 8 volts [/size][/size]
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[*][size="2"][size="2"]Low pass: 50 – 250 Hz [/size][/size]
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[*][size="2"][size="2"]High pass: 80 Hz [/size][/size]
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[indent=3][size="2"][size="2"]the Blaupunkt amp is too powerful for the Jbl or Pioneer speakers you have listed, you will need speakers that handle more power (100W rms) - the amp can work in 2,3 or 4 channel mode, so it gives a lot of flexibility, withe suitable door speakers the Blaupunkt amp will be louder and probably better sounding than the amps that are built into the head unit (especially at high volumes) [/size][/size][/indent]

[indent=3][size="2"][size="2"]if you really want to "go to town" you could use the 4 channells(4 channel mode) of the Blaupunkt to drive the front/ rear door speakers (not the ones in your car now or the ones in your link, you would blow them to bits!) and get ANOTHER amp to drive your sub - that would be some system! (you may need a special audio battery and/ or a power cap to power it all) [/size][/size][/indent]
Hassen
[quote name='FOCA' timestamp='1353623098' post='217966']
Wow thats a serious amp- i looked up the specs -
[b] [size=2]Blaupunkt GTA470 SF features[/size][/b][list]
[*][size=2]Max total power: 840 (1 channel mode) [/size]
[list]
[*][size=2]RMS power 4 ohms: 4 x 70 watts / 2 x 200 watts [/size]
[list]
[*][size=2]RMS power 2 ohms: 4 x 100 watts [/size]
[list]
[*][size=2]Max. power 4 ohms: 4 x 140 watts / 2 x 420 watts [/size]
[list]
[*][size=2]Number of channels: 4/3/2 [/size]
[list]
[*][size=2]Speaker outputs: 4 [/size]
[list]
[*][size=2]Inputs: Cinch [/size]
[list]
[*][size=2]Frequency range: 10 – 30,000 Hz [/size]
[list]
[*][size=2]Stability: 2 ohms [/size]
[list]
[*][size=2]Signal/noise ratio: > 92 dB/A [/size]
[list]
[*][size=2]Gain adjust: 0.1 – 8 volts [/size]
[list]
[*][size=2]Low pass: 50 – 250 Hz [/size]
[list]
[*][size=2]High pass: 80 Hz [/size]
[/list][*][size=2]what happened there ? [/size]
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[indent=3][size=2]the Blaupunkt amp is too powerful for the Jbl or Pioneer speakers you have listed, you will need speakers that handle more power (100W rms) - the amp can work in 2,3 or 4 channel mode, so it gives a lot of flexibility, withe suitable door speakers the Blaupunkt amp will be louder and probably better sounding than the amps that are built into the head unit (especially at high volumes) [/size][/indent]

[indent=3][size=2]if you really want to "go to town" you could use the 4 channells(4 channel mode) of the Blaupunkt to drive the front/ rear door speakers (not the ones in your car now or the ones in your link, you would blow them to bits!) and get ANOTHER amp to drive your sub - that would be some system! (you may need a special audio battery and/ or a power cap to power it all) [/size][/indent]
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I think the amp I have is the older model, bought second hand. Still a great sounding amp.
This is it:

http://130.com.ua/en/product/car-amplifier-blaupunkt-gta-470/

Any ideas if this would work with the JBL speakers I was thinking of getting? As it would suck to have to get more expensive speakers.

As for getting the second amp idea for the sub and power the 4 speakers with the amp, it would be awesome! Sadly due to lack of funds and given the fact that I need the bootspace for the lil ones stuff(smallest person has the most amount of stuff. Go figure), I think I will start with the front speaker upgrades and wire the amp to the speaker to get a cleaner more distinct sound and see how it goes in the future as rarely anyone sits in the back of the car. Even though, having a proper surround sound experience in the car would be worth the effort and money I reckon.
FOCA
Your Biaupunkt produces 70W RMS per channel (there are 4 channels = 4 seperate "amps" or 2 stereo "amps" in one box) the Pioneer speakers (in your link) handle 50W RMS max and the JBLs 60W, you could use them but you would have to be very, very carful, personally i would use 140W (RMS "true" power) speaker/s with 70w amp/s i have found these 87W (RMS) Kenwood speakers (of similar spec/ quality to the JBLs but better power handling) for a similar price -


[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KENWOOD-KFC-S6894C-240W-3-way-6x8-inch-FORD-MAZDA-DOOR-Fit-Car-Speakers-/160829222227?pt=UK_In_Car_Technology&hash=item25722b2d53"]http://www.ebay.co.u...=item25722b2d53[/url]


You will need 2 pairs - 2 for the front doors and 2 for the rear (doors or panels) with the Blaupunkt amp it will be louder and sound better (IMO) (they are a better spec than stock and Kenwood has a good reputation) than the stock system but still loads of space in the car (you will need to find somewhere to mount the amp but it is slim and will not take up a lit of space) some of these ICE installs can be very heavy (something many people don't take into account) but this setup would be only a few kgs more than stock
Hassen
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Your Biaupunkt produces 70W RMS per channel (there are 4 channels = 4 seperate "amps" or 2 stereo "amps" in one box) the Pioneer speakers (in your link) handle 50W RMS max and the JBLs 60W, you could use them but you would have to be very, very carful, personally i would use 140W (RMS "true" power) speaker/s with 70w amp/s i have found these 87W (RMS) Kenwood speakers (of similar spec/ quality to the JBLs but better power handling) for a similar price -


[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KENWOOD-KFC-S6894C-240W-3-way-6x8-inch-FORD-MAZDA-DOOR-Fit-Car-Speakers-/160829222227?pt=UK_In_Car_Technology&hash=item25722b2d53"]http://www.ebay.co.u...=item25722b2d53[/url]


You will need 2 pairs - 2 for the front doors and 2 for the rear (doors or panels) with the Blaupunkt amp it will be louder and sound better (IMO) (they are a better spec than stock and Kenwood has a good reputation) than the stock system but still loads of space in the car (you will need to find somewhere to mount the amp but it is slim and will not take up a lit of space) some of these ICE installs can be very heavy (something many people don't take into account) but this setup would be only a few kgs more than stock
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Foca thanks a million for the link and the information about the speaker specs. You saved me a lot of digging around on a subject that I know very little of. I think the Kenwood ones will fit the bill nicely as they tick all the right boxes. Might just get a pair for the front only at this point in time and wait till I have a bit more funds to get the rear ones. My sound guy already wired up the amp and the subwoofer to the car. The amp is secured to the left rear side of the boot wall and it looks very clean. Not taking a lot of space and the subwoofer can be disconnected when I need the bootspace to haul stuff.
And you are dead right about the weight issue as I know how heavy my subwoofer is and how it affects my fuel consumption. I will still gladly sacrifice a bit of fuel for a decent sounding system. Any ideas of other places that I could find the Kenwood speakers shipped to Republic of Ireland for not a lot of money? The shipping costs are just ridiculous on Ebay for some of the sellers.
Thanks


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