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clubber
I'm thinking of fitting the power fold mirrors off an RS to my ST.

I have established that I need the mirrors with integrated puddle lights, a new switch for activating the mirrors and modified ELM to activate it all in the GEM

Was wondering if anyone has done it before or has a link to a guide. There is a guy over at focusstoc that has done it but his guide isn't very good

http://www.focusstoc.com/forums/topic/110004-power-fold-mirrors/
mrmetallica

I'm thinking of fitting the power fold mirrors off an RS to my ST.

I have established that I need the mirrors with integrated puddle lights, a new switch for activating the mirrors and modified ELM to activate it all in the GEM

Was wondering if anyone has done it before or has a link to a guide. There is a guy over at focusstoc that has done it but his guide isn't very good

http://www.focusstoc.com/forums/topic/110004-power-fold-mirrors/

what you mean .not very good lol

jeebowhite

I think I heard of a few people doing it, but I dont believe I have seen any guides though...

 

Have a look in the Focus Guides section, there might be something bured somewhere?

mixmasterlooney

I want to do this mod too, i have no idea what the original switch looks like or where it goes

mrmetallica

My little how to, I have circled the pin locations in red, click the pictures for close ups.

you need to have front door modules for this to work,and obviously power fold mirror will need turning on with elm

1 wire goes from the mirror plug pin 8



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to the blue plug in the Driver Door Module (DDM), pin number 14



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A 2nd wire goes from the new power fold switch/sensor switch, pin 3



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to the black plug on the DDM, pin number 17



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The new power fold switch/sensor switch is FINIS number 1496128 and looks like this, I ordered this from FordPartsUK

 

 

this is done between clubber and myself hope clubber dont mind me putting this up

clubber

This is the picture of the switch, FINIS number 1496128

 

mixmasterlooney

Silly question but... where does that switch go?

mrmetallica

Silly question but... where does that switch go?

goes on the door card near the mirror

Teabags

My little how to, I have circled the pin locations in red, click the pictures for close ups.
you need to have front door modules for this to work,and obviously power fold mirror will need turning on with elm
1 wire goes from the mirror plug pin 8
to the blue plug in the Driver Door Module (DDM), pin number 14
A 2nd wire goes from the new power fold switch/sensor switch, pin 3
to the black plug on the DDM, pin number 17
The new power fold switch/sensor switch is FINIS number 1496128 and looks like this, I ordered this from FordPartsUK
 
 
this is done between clubber and myself hope clubber dont mind me putting this up


How did you fit the wire into the holes? What sort of pins did you use or are they push fit?
mrmetallica

get the wires from breaker or look in maplin .you need 3 female and 1 male terminal

Tezza
I fitted mine this way as I only need to add the one wire :)



Like already stated you need to have front door modules for this to work, if you have global open/close windows you will have these modules fitted ,and obviously power fold mirror will need turning on with elm

1 wire goes from the mirror plug pin 8



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to the blue plug in the Driver Door Module (DDM), pin number 14



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Then fit the drivers power folding mirror and refit the trims


There is no need to do anything to the passenger side only fit the new power folding mirror


Then fit the RS power fold switch that's incorporated in the electric window / mirror switch is FINIS number 1693643 cost 44.28

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And away you go :)
mrmetallica

tezz.do you know a way to get them to fold with key fob ?

Tezza

tezz.do you know a way to get them to fold with key fob ?



John

I'm looking it to this so will update you as and when :)
mrmetallica

John

I'm looking it to this so will update you as and when :)

this is under way know tezza

mixmasterlooney
When you guys say module do you mean plug?

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clubber

Plugs connect into the module

mixmasterlooney
I don't have global open/close is it still possible to to do this?

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mrmetallica

no.you need the door modules

mixmasterlooney

I will have to look into this with more details on what these modules are because it could already be on the car, looking at some pics from when i took my door mirror off i can see the connector is missing 2 wires based on your pics john

mrmetallica

it looks like this the box on the window motor

 

 

mixmasterlooney

Looking at pics from previous mods it seems i don't have the module but it seems i have the wiring, not sure tbh will have to double check the wiring colours on the schematics 

 

Don't think the door module is here. However is that bit of wire wrapped in fabric tape for it? i don't remember if it was connected to anything.

 

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These are the wiring from the door going to the mirror connector

 

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mixmasterlooney

Going back and forth comparing my wiring to yours i do think the wiring for global closing/opening is actually there. Do you by any chance know the part number for that door module and does the passenger side also require one?

mrmetallica

Going back and forth comparing my wiring to yours i do think the wiring for global closing/opening is actually there. Do you by any chance know the part number for that door module and does the passenger side also require one?

you need a module in both front doors.youd probably need new door looms.cost would be crazy

giwrgos_ath

Guys, can anyone tell me if the mirrors with puddle light (from RS i think) have powerold as standard? Can you get puddle lights without powerfold?

 

I got my hands on 8M51 17682 VB. Can anyone tell me if that has powerfold and how can i tell visually? Thanks

clubber
Check the wires, one of the connections has 2 wires going into it.
giwrgos_ath

Does that help?

 

On the connector, i have 7 out of 8 pins populated.

 

Also, i have three connectors available, and i imagine that one is for puddle, one for indicator and the ones on the top left for the heated mirror. Correct?

Tezza
8M51 17682 VB are not power folding but they do have puddle lights

8M51 17682 TC are the power folding with puddle lights
giwrgos_ath

I see... Great! thanks for the info!

mrmetallica

my mirrors are now auto folding.so much better how they should come from ford.

damadgeruk

my mirrors are now auto folding.so much better how they should come from ford.

Well done, how did you acheive this? I'm hoping to do this to the wifes' Titanium though you're the first I've heard manage it.

Tezza

Well done, how did you acheive this? I'm hoping to do this to the wifes' Titanium though you're the first I've heard manage it.

There has been a loads of people that have had this done is just the matter of getting the correct programme and the correct interface to do it as the EML is not capable of doing this yet


If anyone don't have the door modules to fit the folding mirrors the best place to get them is ebay and the looms from fords are £50 each

So you will also be getting one touch up/down also with the power folding mirrors

If anyone's interested I can get a set of the power folding mirrors with puddle lamps for £210 posted for the pair :)
mrmetallica

Well done, how did you acheive this? I'm hoping to do this to the wifes' Titanium though you're the first I've heard manage it.

joined the guys on rs owners club in group buy on a unit from Russia .it plugs in obd port and programs the door modules

damadgeruk

joined the guys on rs owners club in group buy on a unit from Russia .it plugs in obd port and programs the door modules

Found the thread thanks, anyone in Glasgow/Central Scotland have the programming module?

minimadgriff

There has been a loads of people that have had this done is just the matter of getting the correct programme and the correct interface to do it as the EML is not capable of doing this yet


If anyone don't have the door modules to fit the folding mirrors the best place to get them is ebay and the looms from fords are £50 each

So you will also be getting one touch up/down also with the power folding mirrors

If anyone's interested I can get a set of the power folding mirrors with puddle lamps for £210 posted for the pair :)

Tezza, are you able to get good prices on Kuga power fold mirrors? It would be the bare bodies only I would be after.

Thanks

Ben
mrmetallica

Found the thread thanks, anyone in Glasgow/Central Scotland have the programming module?

its being passed around to different areas scotland wil get it at some point .

minimadgriff

Ben,

Will check on price tomorrow for you :)

Found a cheap one on ebay

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Kuga-2008-2013-Electric-Power-Folding-Door-Mirror-Unit-RH-Brand-New-/281158149328?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item417654e4d0

Cheers Tezza :)

I did see those on ebay but they are non-genuine, so I am worried about how well they fit as pattern parts rarely fit properly.
whisky

Hi All.

 

Just finished installing my new powerfold mirrors and replacing the in-door / arm-rest switch set, the one with the power window buttons in, to my 2010 MK2.5 Titanium Focus.

All went very well, I got a brand new complete pair of mirrors that are powerfolding, heated have puddle light and side indicators from Kba-carlighting-mirrors on Ebay, ordered them and delivered two days later, then the switch i had to order direct from ford, I phoned them with the Finis code and was told the part is classed as 'refered' this meant it had to come from Germany so I expected a long delay, but no, it was here in three days. Anyway fitted both mirrors and the switch the hardest thing being the removing of the doorcard to enable the install of the one cable from the mirror plug to the door module, then final thing was the activation to get it all working, I use the Elm327 to do this activating both the passenger and driver door modules then the puddle lights. All for less than £190.00 and a couple of hours work. ''Job done''

 

Next is to find out how to get them to fold in/out when locking/unlocking the car via remote.

Any idea's   

Tezza

There a great upgrade :)  Mine now fold with the remote, but you have to buy a different adaptor called UCDS cost me £100 and you have to buy a credit to do this :(  but im making some of my money back with doing this to mates that want them folding via remote :)

whisky
Tessa
Using this UCDS adaptor does it just re-configure the modules fitted to the car, or do you also have to carry out any other wiring mods
I would be very interested in having them folding via the remote.
I will have to take a look at the cars wiring schematic to try to fathom out what alterations it preforms to achive this, must be some kind of pulse from locking module.
damadgeruk

There a great upgrade :)  Mine now fold with the remote, but you have to buy a different adaptor called UCDS cost me £100 and you have to buy a credit to do this :(  but im making some of my money back with doing this to mates that want them folding via remote :)

Any plans to be in Central Scotland? I'm looking to enable remote powerfold on the wife's 59 Titanium. It has factory powerfold, is it likely to need 'the wire'?

Tezza

To make them fold with the remote you need no extra wiring :) the UCDS adator plugs in the diag port and a sequence of flashing light starts then after 3 mins the adptor is removed and you have to do a sequence with the mirror switch and windows and thats it :)

 

I have no idea what the UCDS is doing but i did try the sequence first with out the adaptor but it did not work :( 

minimadgriff
It reprograms the drivers door module, so that when it locks it sends a signal via canbus to make them fold.

I have contacted UCDS several times but never heard back as I want one for when I fit powerfolds to my Kuga.

Tezza, do you have to hold the lock button to get them to fold, or just lock it normally?
Tezza

Ben,

 

Just lock it normally :) 

 

Keep on to them as it took me 3 months to get one 

minimadgriff
That's a shame as I would prefer it done it when you wanted not every time you lock it. I think it would be better if you had to hold the lock button like with the windows.
whisky
Tezza
Any chance you could PM me that sequence it's got to be worth a long shot, I had to enable the power fold bit via the Elm unit may it will do something,
I have posted on the guide section to see if anybody has any other ways to do it. I am sure it must be a case of pulsing the fold /unfold cables via the lock /unlock signal from the door module just wish I understood the control strategy a little better, we must have some clever tecky guys in the forum that can assist with a few pointers, worse case I will have to wait to see if I can obtain a UCDS unit.

Cheers
Tezza

This is the instruction once you have removed the UCDS adaptor

 

START ENGINE - LEAVE A MINUTE OR SO UNTIL ON LOW IDLE

STOP ENGINE

PRESS START - DON'T START ENGINE - OPEN WINDOWS

PULL BOTH WINDOWS CLOSE WHILE PRESSING RIGHT ARROW ON ROCKER SWITCH (LEFT ARROW IS TO DEACTIVATE IF/WHEN YOU NEED TO)

PRESS START TO TURN OFF

DOUBLE LOCK ON THE FOB WHILE IN THE CAR - MIRRORS SHOULD FOLD.

IF THEY DON'T THE FIRST TIME, YOU MIGHT NEED TO UNLOCK THEN DOUBLE LOCK AGAIN

skyshaddow
Hi guys,

Anyone know where i can get a set of mirrors fron i have an 08 plate mk2.5 titanium.

Cheers
Michael

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whisky

Hi Skyshaddow.

 

I got mine of ebay from a company called Kba-carlighting-mirrors, a quick search should be all you need. They sell many different types, very quick delivery all fitted fine, now have the two i took off to sell.   

skyshaddow
Hey,

Found these on ebay not quite sure if these would suitable or not?

http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/221359316455

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