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salsheikh
[size=4][color=#222222][font=Arial', 'sans-serif]i got my egr blank fitted to my focus finally.[/font][/color]

[color=#222222][font=Arial', 'sans-serif]guide[/font][/color]

[color=#222222][font=Arial', 'sans-serif]remove wipers[/font][/color]
[color=#222222][font=Arial', 'sans-serif]remove scuttle panel[/font][/color]
[color=#222222][font=Arial', 'sans-serif]remove trim under scuttle panel[/font][/color]
[color=#222222][font=Arial', 'sans-serif]remove 2 screws and metal gasket[/font][/color]
[color=#222222][font=Arial', 'sans-serif]replace metal gasket with blank using the 2 screws previously removed[/font][/color]
[color=#222222][font=Arial', 'sans-serif]replace the trim, scuttle panel and wiper arms[/font][/color]

[color=#222222][font=Arial', 'sans-serif]jobs done - 20 mins[/font][/color][/size]

FOCA
Nice one! - a lot of people will want to see that

Have you had a chance to see how it drives with it done?
jeffnat68
[quote name='salsheikh' timestamp='1360172378' post='233689']
[size=4][color=#222222]i got my egr blank fitted to my focus finally.[/color]

[color=#222222]guide[/color]

[color=#222222]remove wipers[/color]
[color=#222222]remove scuttle panel[/color]
[color=#222222]remove trim under scuttle panel[/color]
[color=#222222]remove 2 screws and metal gasket[/color]
[color=#222222]replace metal gasket with blank using the 2 screws previously removed[/color]
[color=#222222]replace the trim, scuttle panel and wiper arms[/color]

[color=#222222]jobs done - 20 mins[/color][/size]


[/quote]
Snap!!!I did mine today also.Mines a 1.6 so a little bit more difficult to get at the egr mounting bolts but managed it without taking all the trim panels etc off and also just unbolted the fuel filter housing from engine and stuffed it out the way so I could access bottom egr mounting bolt.Shoved blanking plate in and tightened everything back up.Also cleaned mafs with cleaner and refitted.On first impressions car is a lot smoover on acceleration with no hesitating black spots.Only problem I can think of is every now and again there is a tap(sounds like someone hitting two pieces of wood together) or crack coming from top half of engine.It only dose in now and again so not sure what it is...I stuck 2 gallons of bp ultimate in and booted it up and down the dual carriage way to clear injectors etc,so will report back in a few days and let you know what I think...If any one knows what the tap/crack,knock sound is I will be most interested in knowing.... :D
salsheikh
so far so good, been booting it around every opportunity i got and it feels so much livelier - probably due to having a decat done (removed cat, removed inards and welded cat back up and back on car, looks like its not been removed), no smoking either :D

just need to get it mapped properly to see what difference it makes
MARLEY
[quote name='salsheikh' timestamp='1360172378' post='233689']
[size=4][color=#222222][font=Arial', 'sans-serif]i got my egr blank fitted to my focus finally.[/font][/color]

[color=#222222][font=Arial', 'sans-serif]guide[/font][/color]

[color=#222222][font=Arial', 'sans-serif]remove wipers[/font][/color]
[color=#222222][font=Arial', 'sans-serif]remove scuttle panel[/font][/color]
[color=#222222][font=Arial', 'sans-serif]remove trim under scuttle panel[/font][/color]
[color=#222222][font=Arial', 'sans-serif]remove 2 screws and metal gasket[/font][/color]
[color=#222222][font=Arial', 'sans-serif]replace metal gasket with blank using the 2 screws previously removed[/font][/color]
[color=#222222][font=Arial', 'sans-serif]replace the trim, scuttle panel and wiper arms[/font][/color]

[color=#222222][font=Arial', 'sans-serif]jobs done - 20 mins[/font][/color][/size]


[/quote]Hi mate
Can this be done to a 2007 2.0L tdci

Many Thanks
Paul
Pete80
Have you had any warning lights come up yet? Might be interested in doing this to mine
salsheikh
No warning lights at all.
Not sure about the 2.0 engine as to where the egr unit sits but it will be possible to block it. Im sure someone on here has done it theirs
Mike77
Nice work, I was always led to believe that fitting these on the 1.8's was a pig of a job, seems quite the opposite. Where did you get the blanking plate from ? And keep us posted on weather or not it starts throwing up the EML. As again from what i've read, the 1.8 are a euro4 engine and can be prone to warning lights with a blanking plate fitted. Hope that is a myth too, coz I wanna blank mine :D
ps, is it a solid plate, or one with a hole in it ??? Cheers, MIke.
salsheikh
Hi Mike,

i got the plate off ebay for a few quid - solid plate.
when i was under the car i too thought it was going to be a bugger to get to but with the help of my mechanic mate we decided that it was easier to access it from the engine bay and it certainly was. still no lights (if they do come up i have the torque app on my phone so will clear it!
car feels much more responsive.

should be going to leicester at the weekend so will give it a blast.
bikerjake2010
Interesting to see how it goes for you. I am having a new EGR fittied to my 1.6TDCI (05) as I type. The old one was coming up as total failiure.

Had seen some people talk about blanking it off but figured I may aswell put a new part on as I can get Ford bits at trade price at my work.
FOCA
[quote name='bikerjake2010' timestamp='1360232263' post='233858']
Interesting to see how it goes for you. I am having a new EGR fittied to my 1.6TDCI (05) as I type. The old one was coming up as total failiure.

Had seen some people talk about blanking it off but figured I may aswell put a new part on as I can get Ford bits at trade price at my work.
[/quote]

Better with it blanked off mate - even if you get the EGR for free, because the EGR contaminates the inlet with exhaust gasses, and coking up the inlet manifold with carbon, as above, only problem you might have is the EML coming on in a euro 4 engine, which can be reset with a code reader
FOCA
[quote name='Mike77' timestamp='1360204148' post='233824']
Nice work, I was always led to believe that fitting these on the 1.8's was a pig of a job, seems quite the opposite. Where did you get the blanking plate from ? And keep us posted on weather or not it starts throwing up the EML. As again from what i've read, the 1.8 are a euro4 engine and can be prone to warning lights with a blanking plate fitted. Hope that is a myth too, coz I wanna blank mine :D
ps, is it a solid plate, or one with a hole in it ??? Cheers, MIke.
[/quote]

Solid plate, the ones with holes are a waste of time, defeats the purpose and they only work on cars with working (non- faulty) EGR valves/ systems (solid plates can "fix" faulty/ leaking EGR valve/ systems because they disable them)

You can get the blanking plate online (e-bay) usually about a fiver, solid, stainless steel and a decent thickness (3mm or thicher if you can get it) better with stainless steel because mild steel rusts, aluminium may melt through

Many motorists with euro 4 engines have chosen to block their EGR valves/ systems as preferable to leaving them unblanked
Reluctant Ford owner
Hey Sal, nice post. I'm thinking of doing this too, do you have any more pics? ie close ups of the job in progress? I was reading up on EGR valves and they seem completely pointless. Ok, they might lower NOx, but then you have to burn more fuel to get the performance back and then create more pollution!
focus zetec s black
[quote name='salsheikh' timestamp='1360226684' post='233842']
Hi Mike,

i got the plate off ebay for a few quid - solid plate.
when i was under the car i too thought it was going to be a bugger to get to but with the help of my mechanic mate we decided that it was easier to access it from the engine bay and it certainly was. still no lights (if they do come up i have the torque app on my phone so will clear it!
car feels much more responsive.

should be going to leicester at the weekend so will give it a blast.
[/quote]

torque app?which phone? can you get this with a obd lead?
nice work sal...
IINexusII
[quote name='focus zetec s black' timestamp='1360269796' post='234068']
torque app?which phone? can you get this with a obd lead?
nice work sal...
[/quote]

Torque is only on Android if im correct. i have it on mine. and you'll need a bluetooth obd adapter which you can pair up and use with the app to clear codes and check some info on the dials etc. nowhere near the expensive stuff garages use but it does the job and would save you plenty of money trying to get codes off the garages
jeffnat68
The torque app is available form the google play store on android run smart phones and tablet pc.Its free but you can buy a premium version with addons for a few quid.You will need a Bluetooth obd2 scanner which you can buy form fleebay for about 10-20 quid.I got one but for some reason it wont work on my focus but did work well on my Honda...wiered.
salsheikh
[quote name='Reluctant Ford owner' timestamp='1360241903' post='233900']
Hey Sal, nice post. I'm thinking of doing this too, do you have any more pics? ie close ups of the job in progress? I was reading up on EGR valves and they seem completely pointless. Ok, they might lower NOx, but then you have to burn more fuel to get the performance back and then create more pollution!
[/quote]

hi mate, sorry no photos of it but if you click on the photo then it will give you some more info which i hope you find useful

there is also a iobd2 app but i dont know if its available for the iphones?
focus zetec s black
cheers will look into that...
FOCA
[quote name='jeffnat68' timestamp='1360270590' post='234076']
The torque app is available form the google play store on android run smart phones and tablet pc.Its free but you can buy a premium version with addons for a few quid.You will need a Bluetooth obd2 scanner which you can buy form fleebay for about 10-20 quid.I got one but for some reason it wont work on my focus but did work well on my Honda...wiered.
[/quote]

Ford has its own special protocols, so an OBD11 reader/ OBD11 to bluetooth adaptor that works with a Honda, may not work with a Ford, if it cant read the Ford protocols - sometimes you may have to pay a bit more to get the right one
JamesMalin
[size=4][sub]Is it only TDCi's that it's worth blanking the EGR valve off?[/sub]

[sub]Can TDDi's be done too or would there be no effect? Does the TDDi even have one? haha[/sub]

[sub]Really not knowledgeable in a car we've had in the family since new but it's always been looked after by the family mechanic and all my cars have been petrol :)[/sub]


[sub]Is it worth given the EGR valve and inlet manifold and good clean first?[/sub]

[sub]Many thanks[/sub][/size]
salsheikh
your more likely to have it. if you can clean it first. my previous car had one and the egr was covered in black gooey stuff, not nice at all. once cleaned and blanked it will be better for your engine.
FOCA
[quote name='JamesMalin' timestamp='1360599635' post='235016']
[size=4][sub]Is it only TDCi's that it's worth blanking the EGR valve off?[/sub]

[sub]Can TDDi's be done too or would there be no effect? Does the TDDi even have one? haha[/sub]

[sub]Really not knowledgeable in a car we've had in the family since new but it's always been looked after by the family mechanic and all my cars have been petrol :)[/sub]


[sub]Is it worth given the EGR valve and inlet manifold and good clean first?[/sub]

[sub]Many thanks[/sub][/size]
[/quote]

As Sal has said - better blanked/ a TDDI is liable to have an EGR

If anything the EGR on a TDDI seems to produce even more "goop" than a TDCI,

A TDDI is likely to have a euro3 ECU so can be blanked with no problems
JamesMalin
[quote name='FOCA' timestamp='1360618187' post='235164']
As Sal has said - better blanked/ a TDDI is liable to have an EGR

If anything the EGR on a TDDI seems to produce even more "goop" than a TDCI,

A TDDI is likely to have a euro3 ECU so can be blanked with no problems
[/quote]

Brilliant cheers chaps!

I've bought a blanking plate off Egay but it's only made of aluminium so i'll copy the design and knock one up at work made from Stainless Steel...simple.

Hopefully it'll be as easy to get to and sort out.
Mike77
Sun is shining, got my blanking plate this morning, so might go get dirty hands, will report back later, let you guys know how I get on. Just on this note,,,, If my egr IS working, will this make any difference ? I've now also got thee Torque Pro app and he ELM327 bluetooth adaptor, so im armed and dangerous lol.
focus zetec s black

Sun is shining, got my blanking plate this morning, so might go get dirty hands, will report back later, let you guys know how I get on. Just on this note,,,, If my egr IS working, will this make any difference ? I've now also got thee Torque Pro app and he ELM327 bluetooth adaptor, so im armed and dangerous lol.

let us now how you get on any links for products purchased?

Mike77

Hi there, job done yesterday and all is well (so far) lol. Easy job to do, less than 20mins if ya get stuck in. Car definetly feels smoother when running, less smoke when booting it. Not really noticed an improvement in performance but saying that, I tend to drive a little more sedately these days haha. Overall very pleased with the job.

 

As far as parts go,,, I bought the Torque Pro App, from the Android Market £2.95 I think, then ordered the ELM327 from here http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200840588989?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649 take no notice of the price, im sure its a typo, I payed £11.85 for it, but best to contact them first to get them to ammend the add.

 

Last but not least the blanking plate, the add shows one with a hole in it, but they also do solid plates, you just need to add message to seller at the checkout. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/110901472743?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

 

Both items were shipped and recieved really quickly, so hopefully all will remain well, and I'll be happy lol.

Aldoo

should be fitting mine tomorrow :)

 

did you use any gasket or sealant when putting it on?

Mike77
No mate, they don't need anything as far as I'm aware. The tin gasket that is in there needs removing, it has 4 locating tabs, just bend them back and remove. Then refit the bolts loosly and slide in the blanking plate and push down to make sure its fully home, then re-tighten and your done.
salsheikh

yep, i didnt use anything either. if you wanted to though, some gasket sealant will do

Aldoo

all fitted :D

 

thought the throttle does feel a bit better, but tbh its probably just a placebo because i read it on here!

 

Cheers

FOCA

all fitted :D

 

thought the throttle does feel a bit better, but tbh its probably just a placebo because i read it on here!

 

Cheers

LOL, should help it pick up a bit better from low revs, eliminate the "EGR flatspot", and yes, the throttle can feel a bit more responsive, its not a usually massive difference, (depends on the car) they recon you need a 10% power increase to have a noticable increase in power, you might see a (slight) difference with a stopwatch or on a dyno

 

 

As Sal has said, the main thing is the inlet/ EGR housing no longer gets contaminated

 

Cleaning out the inlet manifold and EGR and resetting the ECU may give more noticable gains (especially if the inlet is badly choked up with carbon/ gunge from the EGR)

 

 Theoretically there should be a slight increase in MPG as well, it would be good to get feedback/ figures about that     

IINexusII

Done mine on Saturday, i can definitely feel an improvement on lower revs :D wasn't too hard to do just be careful that the wiper arms are aligned correctly. 

 

driven about 120 miles since, no EML yet (Euro4 engine). MPG also seems unaffected, if not then i would say it is slightly better, a406/m40/a40 from east london to cheltenham with a few of full throttle takeoffs and overtaking and managed 56MPG, and i would normally get that amount with granny driving

b1g_dav3

Hmm reading this I'm considering doing it on my Fiesta 1.6 TDCi, only thing is I don't really want to end up with and fault codes coming up >.<

Aldoo

i dont think any of us have had any error lights so far mate

i posted here on the 1st, so i would guess iv done a good few hundred miles now without any lights. and iv not done a mpg test yet, but it wouldnt be accurate in the weather we're having ATM anyway

b1g_dav3

If I do get an error and remove it, problem solved or will it end up going in to limp mode? -.-

FOCA

If I do get an error and remove it, problem solved or will it end up going in to limp mode? -.-

Won't cause limp mode, limp mode and error codes are different things

 

So far no-one has even had an EML on yet, and several forum members have fitted a solid plate, with only positive/ good results - 

 

I think you are pretty safe fitting one (solid, stainless steel blanking plate)

Mike77
Still no light on mine, done a good few miles since fitting, touch wood all is good :-)
salsheikh

no light here either, all good under the hood!

b1g_dav3

Will the fact it's a Euro 5 engine make any difference? Was reading I need one with a hole in or something >.<

FOCA

Will the fact it's a Euro 5 engine make any difference? Was reading I need one with a hole in or something >.<

Where did you read that? - the ones with the hole are useless -  its a blanking plate not a mint :lol:  

baitman

Where did you read that? - the ones with the hole are useless -  its a blanking plate not a mint :lol:  

:D

leftathome

Oh,how I miss humour !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

b1g_dav3

Where did you read that? - the ones with the hole are useless -  its a blanking plate not a mint :lol:  

 

Yeah, just restricts rather than blocks due to the fact the EGR need air going through it >.<

 

Seeing it's just a code, may as well just do it and see, if it throws a fault I'll just get it knocked off come service time.

IINexusII

I might be considering removing mine soon... ive started noticing this "wawawawawaw" type sound everytime i get over 40mph, it should be sealed tight around the blanking plate area. did you guys remove that thin gasket when fitting the blanking plate?

Mike77
Yes
baitman

i left the thin gasket in, and installed the egr blanking plate on the left of the gasket, so the egr plate was nearer the egr. this allows the thin gasket to make the seal on the pipe from the manifold, as intended.

Mike77
Varied opinions on this then, as most have removed the thin plate and just replaced it with the blank. No problems/leaks with mine.
IINexusII

ill remove the gasket then and see if that makes any difference

baitman

Varied opinions on this then, as most have removed the thin plate and just replaced it with the blank. No problems/leaks with mine.

its not that i thought it still needed the gasket, its just that the blanking plate i bought had cut away lugs so you only have to loosen the bolts to fit it rather than remove them fully. my EGR had been cleaned prior to me ordering the blanking plate.

if i had to remove them, as when having to clean the EGR, then i would have also had to remove the gasket.

its so thin im sure it makes no real difference if blanking the EGR.

salsheikh

i removed mine too. are you sure there isnt any leaks that are making the noise?



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