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Eddieboi
Hello all,

I have just recently joined the forums :)

I am planning to get a Ford Fiesta to replace my old M- Reg corsa and I was wondering what I could get with a budget of £5000 and what the tax/insurance is like. (Just to note in 26, insured with lloyds £695 for the year with 1NCBs and both my parents as second and third drivers who both have 25+ years NCB each)

I will be going to a ford dealership to get a second hand fiesta (probably a zetec model) this Sunday to have a browse and test drive.

I would quite fancy a second hand fiesta with the new shape they look ace however anything to replace my old M-Reg corsa is good lol.

Regards,

Ed
jeebowhite

Well Ed, your probably going to get a fair car, around 56 plate up to about 08 for that price. and the insurance will be around the same I expect, its a newer car, more secure, and easy parts to come by so I cant see it affecting your premiums overly.

Eddieboi

Well Ed, your probably going to get a fair car, around 56 plate up to about 08 for that price. and the insurance will be around the same I expect, its a newer car, more secure, and easy parts to come by so I cant see it affecting your premiums overly.


We meet again!

Yes I generally thought around 05-08 plate for £5k.

Just to ask though at what plate do you start seeing the newer fiesta style that are currently about?
jeebowhite

the latest? they are about 09 I believe. Possibly late 08 (trying to think what my dealer has as courtesy motors :P) I think its 58 plate.

 

For that money though, you could get an older of the last shape, with a few more miles, but a better model (Zetec / maybe S) otherwise, you could get more of a Style model of the newest shape.

minnis

If it helps, I am 19, with 1 years NCB like you. I live near heathrow, just inside the M25 so I'd presume a higher risk area. Plus you're older so that should help.

When my girlfriend got her new car, she went onto an Admiral Multi-car policy with me, and my price will be £650 from August till May (9 months) plus a whole years NCB. So this equates to about 900 quid or so for the year. I imagine yours would not go up much.

 

I drive a 2006 1.6tdci Focus. A focus is naturally higher insurance group than a Fiesta, and diesls are higher than petrols usually.

I bought my car a year ago for £5000 if it helps.

 

I would thoroughly recommend an older style fiesta rather than the newer one. It'll probably lack in things like safety and economy compared to the new one, but for the same price you'll get a much higher spec. Parkers says that for an 08 plate Fiesta 5dr 1.4 Ghia with 50,000 on the clock, expect to pay £4700 from an independent dealer or £5000 from a Ford dealer, so bang on target. Adjust for 3dr/5dr, engine and milage. For your budget, I wouldn't accept anything below a Ghia - this has auto lights/wipers, front fogs, and a "quickclear" front windscreen which is really handy in winter.

 

Also available is the Fiesta ST, which would obviously bump up insurance, tax and fuel costs.

 

Hope this block of text helps, and keep us updated!

Eddieboi

If it helps, I am 19, with 1 years NCB like you. I live near heathrow, just inside the M25 so I'd presume a higher risk area. Plus you're older so that should help.
When my girlfriend got her new car, she went onto an Admiral Multi-car policy with me, and my price will be £650 from August till May (9 months) plus a whole years NCB. So this equates to about 900 quid or so for the year. I imagine yours would not go up much.
 
I drive a 2006 1.6tdci Focus. A focus is naturally higher insurance group than a Fiesta, and diesls are higher than petrols usually.
I bought my car a year ago for £5000 if it helps.
 
I would thoroughly recommend an older style fiesta rather than the newer one. It'll probably lack in things like safety and economy compared to the new one, but for the same price you'll get a much higher spec. Parkers says that for an 08 plate Fiesta 5dr 1.4 Ghia with 50,000 on the clock, expect to pay £4700 from an independent dealer or £5000 from a Ford dealer, so bang on target. Adjust for 3dr/5dr, engine and milage. For your budget, I wouldn't accept anything below a Ghia - this has auto lights/wipers, front fogs, and a "quickclear" front windscreen which is really handy in winter.
 
Also available is the Fiesta ST, which would obviously bump up insurance, tax and fuel costs.
 
Hope this block of text helps, and keep us updated!


That was quite handy actually the block of text lol

I actually live in Caterham with the M25 about 5-10min drive which is rather handy and gatwick is about a 20-30 drive too.

Ideally I would like to go for a 5 door as its more convenient...well mainly for my girlfriend!

I shall indeed have a good browse on Sunday and see what the ford dealership has to offer and try and haggle...also may try my luck in getting a years tax and full tank ;)
minnis

That was quite handy actually the block of text lol

I actually live in Caterham with the M25 about 5-10min drive which is rather handy and gatwick is about a 20-30 drive too.

Ideally I would like to go for a 5 door as its more convenient...well mainly for my girlfriend!

I shall indeed have a good browse on Sunday and see what the ford dealership has to offer and try and haggle...also may try my luck in getting a years tax and full tank ;)

Good luck, and post photos if/when you get one!

Eddieboi

the latest? they are about 09 I believe. Possibly late 08 (trying to think what my dealer has as courtesy motors :P) I think its 58 plate.
 
For that money though, you could get an older of the last shape, with a few more miles, but a better model (Zetec / maybe S) otherwise, you could get more of a Style model of the newest shape.


Sound advise!

It certainly gives me some idea of where I'm standing in what I can get.

I'm like a little kid waiting to go into a candy shop as this car will be way better than my M-reg corsa 1.2 which the fiesta will be placing...short story shot the repair bill for the corsa costed more than wha to paid for it.
DanGersFord
You'll should get a decent facelift mk6 fiesta for £5k id also look at a similar aged focus :) theres alot more minor mods etc you can make to the focus and they've got a bit more grunt :)
Eddieboi

You'll should get a decent facelift mk6 fiesta for £5k id also look at a similar aged focus :) theres alot more minor mods etc you can make to the focus and they've got a bit more grunt :)


Will be looking at focus too but depends on what myself and the other half agree on...she's picky :P even though I'm the one who will own and drive the car!
DanGersFord
Im sure a while ago I was looking at mk1 focus ST's for about £6k not long ago. If it was me id save up a bit more and hold out for one of them
Eddieboi

Im sure a while ago I was looking at mk1 focus ST's for about £6k not long ago. If it was me id save up a bit more and hold out for one of them


I won't be paying for the car, my parents have kindly said they would help as I couldn't afford to get my corsa fixed in time for the MOT this June.
DanGersFord
Speak realy nice to them lol
Eddieboi

Speak realy nice to them lol

 

I will! If it was not for them I would be in a really bad situation right now. 

 

Just knowing I wont have to worry about the car failing an MOT or worry about how much petrol I have to use too...this corsa likes petrol a lot :P 

 

Either way this is a long term investment so I will make good use of it :) 

 

Hopefully once I have the car Ill take it on the motorway somewhere!

DanGersFord
Haha I remember I had that feeling when I had my first car (also a corsa) dead scared to take it on a motorway incase it doesnt make it back lmao
Eddieboi

Haha I remember I had that feeling when I had my first car (also a corsa) dead scared to take it on a motorway incase it doesnt make it back lmao

 

Yeah the Ford will be my second car, I have only been driving since February last year. I didnt see much need of a car before then as I just did not need one...but now I drive I am like "I missed out on soo much!" lol

 

Yeah this Corsa is noisy as hell when on the motorway by the time I drive from London to Margate I am surprised I can still hear.

DanGersFord
The motorway eventually killed my corsa mwuhahahhahaha lol it broke down on the way from England to Scotland and it just wasnt worth fixing lol. Id maybe pass on the focus ST if youve only been driving that long and get yourself a decent focus/fiesta zetec :)
Eddieboi

The motorway eventually killed my corsa mwuhahahhahaha lol it broke down on the way from England to Scotland and it just wasnt worth fixing lol. Id maybe pass on the focus ST if youve only been driving that long and get yourself a decent focus/fiesta zetec :)

 

Couple of my work colleagues who are into cars (believe me they could talk hours) suggested if I was to go for a fiesta to try go for a zetec one. 

 

But I guess I will find out what my options are on sunday!

minnis

Have a look at www.parkers.co.uk

Look at the reviews for the Fiesta and Focus, in particular they have a tab where you can compare the equipment for different trim levels.

b1g_dav3

If you go for a Zetec you'll more likely be able to get a slightly younger car, although a Ghia/Titanium (same trim level) will have a few more creature comforts, but you may end up paying a little more and therefore having a little older of a car. There's always the Zetec S, but these only come with a 1.6 petrol or diesel engine, although I think both are pretty affordable, but the better choice would be the Zetec/Ghia/Titanium trims.

 

Found a cracking one that my girlfriend was looking in to, it's a Cat D write off that's been repaired, 2008 Titanium with full leather for £4,895 not long since, cracking little car that was, but the decided not to do her test so little point :P

Eddieboi

If you go for a Zetec you'll more likely be able to get a slightly younger car, although a Ghia/Titanium (same trim level) will have a few more creature comforts, but you may end up paying a little more and therefore having a little older of a car. There's always the Zetec S, but these only come with a 1.6 petrol or diesel engine, although I think both are pretty affordable, but the better choice would be the Zetec/Ghia/Titanium trims.
 
Found a cracking one that my girlfriend was looking in to, it's a Cat D write off that's been repaired, 2008 Titanium with full leather for £4,895 not long since, cracking little car that was, but the decided not to do her test so little point :P


Thanks for the advise!

Just to ask what kind of effect would a 1.6 have on my current insurance in terms of price would it only go up a little or fair bit? (£695 TPFT with parents as second and third drivers and 1NCBs).

On a side note my dad went down the dealership I'm going to on Sunday with him, he couldn't see many cars about in the £5k price range, he may consider upping it a bit if we can find a good deal hopefully with some tax and fuel thrown in to sweeten the deal!

He said that they wernt helpful much nor seemed interested in helping a potential buyer but maybe when I go down and actually see the guy who's doing my appointment that guy may be a bit more useful.
b1g_dav3

1.6 petrol could push this up, 1.6 diesel may again but most likely less so. Any particular reason you're going 3rd party for your insurance?

 

Some dealerships do seem not to actually want to sell cars, I've never understood it >_>

Eddieboi

1.6 petrol could push this up, 1.6 diesel may again but most likely less so. Any particular reason you're going 3rd party for your insurance?
 
Some dealerships do seem not to actually want to sell cars, I've never understood it >_>


Ill be going fully comp when I get the new car.

My current car is a corsa 1.2 M-reg hence third party lol to be replaced this June by a more up to date better ford car :D
b1g_dav3

Ah fair enough, was going to say you'll be paying more for third party than fully comp in all likelihood.

 

Best thing to do is ring your current insurance company and have a word really, but it's not going to be a massive increase I'd imagine. 

Eddieboi

Ah fair enough, was going to say you'll be paying more for third party than fully comp in all likelihood.
 
Best thing to do is ring your current insurance company and have a word really, but it's not going to be a massive increase I'd imagine. 


A small increase would be good than a massive :)

Just hope Sunday becomes a helpful productive day instead of a wasted one lol
Eddieboi
Hi all,

Went to the ford dealership and a few other places nearby, basically there wasn't much choice about or a lot of cars in my price range.

However at the ford dealership the guy who was speaking to us said there is a ford fiesta zetec 1.25 climate coming in, 16k mileage and in extremely good condition so we put a £100 deposit down to hold the car for us.

Will take a look at it this Saturday and hopefully test drive it, if it turns out to be a gooden etc them ill buy it.

Price for this car...£5500 got the, down to £5300

Also insurance wise only £142 extra fully comp taking it to £842 a year with both my parents on too.
Eddieboi
Just to ask while I remember.

I have an iPhone 5 and use the Tom Tom app as my sat nav. If I do get this Fiesta zetec climate 2008 this Saturday will I still be able to hear the Tom Tom directions through the car speakers?

With my current car I have a third party stereo with a USB connection and I have to set it to USB to get sound through the speakers and to hear my music as well from the iPhone, so I wonder if the case is similar with fiesta radio minus the USB connection which I assume I would use the Aux instead to connect sound from the phone to the stereo.
jeebowhite

if its got the aux, you tend to have to set the car to aux to pick up anything that comes through it unfortunately. I tend to have it on bluetooth on my aftermarket unit, and just listen to music through the bluetooth, so then the instructions come through as well :)

Eddieboi

if its got the aux, you tend to have to set the car to aux to pick up anything that comes through it unfortunately. I tend to have it on bluetooth on my aftermarket unit, and just listen to music through the bluetooth, so then the instructions come through as well :)


Thanks!

In that case I may sell my current third party radio (single DIN) and get one with Bluetooth and USB connection.
Eddieboi
Just to ask if I do decide to buy this fiesta zetec this Saturday what kind of checks will the ford dealership do before hand?

I know the car is coming in this week to be given to them so I assume they should do the following:

1) clean
2) service (some sort of check)
3) mot?

Also do they end up charging you for this?

Obviously they want customers who buy second hand cars to leave with them knowing the car is in good shape and all?
jeebowhite

any dealer worth anything should do a HPI check on the motor before they take it into stock, or look to sell it knowing its a HPI dirty motor. They will 90% of the time, offer you a basic service to drive the car away with new oil, filter, and air filter as a minimum, some may do more, others probably will just stick to the basics. As for MOT, they will only complete if its due at the time of sale, otherwise they may sell it with up to 10 months MOT remaining, but they may complete an "unofficial" MOT, where they do not offer a certificate of conformity, but do all the checks and validate everything for your peace of mind.

Eddieboi
Well good news all...I have a used ford fiesta 2008 zetec climate car as my new car :D ill be picking it up Monday after work so shall get some pictures up then.

Got it for £5168 including 6months tax and £100 for my old corsa!

Test drove it was amazed how good it drove.

Was a bit wierd with the steering not use with power steering lol


On a side note looking at the radio I might swap the standard car radio for my Sony GT560ui one but looking at the specs and it saying stalker adaptor compatible does that mean it would work with the wheel controls?

If so I believe i would have to get a special wire harness as well.
jeebowhite

it means you would need to buy an adapter but yeah you should be able to use it with the stalk.

Eddieboi

Well all I got my new car...been driving it since yesterday...wow what a difference and loving it. Glad I decided to go with a ford fiesta in the end.

 

After some reading of the manual and testing I decided I am going to sell my third party radio and just stick with the ford one...less hassle...and does what I need it to do, I was mainly worried I would not be able to hear the Tom Tom app sound properly but tested it and its all good!

 

Quite impressed with the Speakers etc a lot better than what I had in my corsa...and the ability to be able to hear myself think and listen to others talk to me instead of trying to hear over a wind tunnel effect :P

 

Here are some pictures :D

 

 

 

 

DanGersFord
Lookin good mate
jeebowhite

nice motor!

 

so whats your mods list like :p

Eddieboi

nice motor!
 
so whats your mods list like :p


Zilch right now lol

Not even sure what I can mod and depends on money too lol
jeebowhite

lol I amsure you will find something soon enough! footwell lighting, illuminated ignition barrel, better lights, LED conversions, wind deflectors....

SeanW
My favourite shaped Fiesta!! The 1.25 is quite a perky little motor - don't tell my other half, but I'm almost miffed I didn't consider the Fiesta when I got my Focus :-P

As Jeebo says - LED lights are cheap and cheerful ;-)
Eddieboi

My favourite shaped Fiesta!! The 1.25 is quite a perky little motor - don't tell my other half, but I'm almost miffed I didn't consider the Fiesta when I got my Focus :-P

As Jeebo says - LED lights are cheap and cheerful ;-)


I have to agree about the motor was suprised how well it handled on the motorway compared to my M reg corsa 1.2 lol

Think first thing to get is some wing deflectors for front and passenger windows.

Plus on a side note need to get mats and boot mat too :)


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