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jeebowhite

OK, so just to disappoint, unfortunately I have NOT yet found a way to remove the catch but I am getting desperate!

 

So, what I want to do, is remove this useless old turn key, break latch, bye bye bonnet access cack with something a bit more suitable. I have two thoughts, and your help in identifying which may be least expensive and plausible would be appreciated. I would love over the course of the next few months to come back with a how to guide on removing this useless object of frustration and replace it!

 

So my thoughts are as follows:

 

1) Remove the stupid key left turn - right turn system. Ideally I want to go back to the old school days, where I fit a Lever, or switch or similar that will allow me to pull a wire and pop the boot (none of this hocus pocus)

 

2) Remove the bonnet locking mechanism and substitute it with a handle and lock release - So, I saw this on a clio of someone who works at kwik fit (bare with me, I know things dont tend to start well with those words) but he had a bonnet that on the left and right sides, he had a key operated lock, with a pull out handle, I assume he would undo the lock with his key, and then use the two handles to pop the bonnet open. This looks like an alright idea... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CARBON-FIBER-PAINTED-JDM-RACING-FLUSH-MOUNT-HOOD-PIN-KEY-BONNET-LOCK-UNIVERSAL-/141092513967?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Model%3AFocus&hash=item20d9c4e8af

 

3) Develop a brand new system. Perhaps take an electrically operated bonnet catch that might fit in my car, then wire it up to a switch - press button, bonnet pops up!

 

All are a bit scifi at the moment, I really would love to come up with an answer, so if anyone has any recommendations, suggestions, or idea's, please do let me know as if I can (within cost effective reason) rid the planet of this monstrosity of a system, I will do so!

jeebowhite

OK So, I called my insurer today. Because I already have external mods on the car, they would need to record it on their system as an internal modification. Total cost to add bonnet lock pins onto my policy £17.50!

 

Yes, £17.50 and then the cost of the bonnet lock parts... Somehow I am becoming more strongly drawn to the idea of getting this 'modification' as my next effort! It will save problems in the long run and it could be a cost effective and more reliable replacement to the current useless system.

 

I am still doing my research into the best means of how to do it. I need to also check the car over and start getting measurements, looking for already fixed points that I could attach it to and what not, but I am favoring this as the next modification to relieve the stupid locking barrel!

 

Has anyone on here had experience with locking pins?

salsheikh

got yourself a nice little project James.

 

could you not use the old cable method that has worked fine all these years - get it from another car and fit it to yours - no more key?

jeebowhite
it's something else I have considered however I have yet to find a catch and pull mechanism that will either straight swap or work with butchering perhaps it's not knowing the search term of what to look for... otherwise there would have to be a level of butchery to mount a bonnet release handle and lay the wiring. all options are still valid and considered as I'm trying to find the best way rather than the worst preexisting way lol

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salsheikh

go to a scrappy to have a look at some bonnet locks on other makes or older fords.

salsheikh

maybe something like this that you could possible screw into the slam panel? you'd have to adjust the hook on the bonnet?

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Fusion-2007-etc-model-Front-Bonnet-Catch-Lock-Models-with-internal-release-/251398039744?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&fits=Car+Make%3AFord&hash=item3a887da8c0

mick85
James I would love if u did this an go to few places ask them to change a bulb they wouldn no what hell was goin on sorry sir if can't open ur bonnet priceless haha
salsheikh

James,

 

maybe you could contact Burton motorsport or demon tweeks to see if they sell an aftermarket kit that rally cars use?

jeebowhite

Well, I found a universal bonnet release cable for a few quid: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Pearl-PUBC01-Universal-Bonnet-Release/dp/B007JIHGDK

 

Looks like it might do the trick! Now, I just need to find a latch that can be used with the cars generally. I am looking outside of Ford as well as things like the Fusion, but at the moment, I probably need to sit down and have a good look at the layout of things :)

gazza21
I know it may sound a little bit silly... But could you not get rid of the barrel and put like a boot locking mechanism on it.. Wire the boot lock up to another button so it pops up like the boot... Then you could go the whole hog and add the gas struts to the bonnet to get rid of the silly stand lol. Just a thought
jeebowhite
not a bad idea fella unfortunate for me though I could guarantee it would fail then an angle grinder date with the bonnet would be likely lol but I like the idea!

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Stoney871
I reckon electric actuators are a better way to go.
Nice smooth motion and works both ways.
jeebowhite

all good as long as the electrics working lol :-)
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gazza21
Hmm yeah... But electrics can go in anything and your buggered lol
jeebowhite

That is true indeed! if only you could wire in a spare power source!

gazza21

That is true indeed! if only you could wire in a spare power source!

Hmm yes would be good.. No doubt it would be able to be done.. I'll have to ask my electrical engineering lecturer at uni.. See what he thinks on the situation lol.

What about the cars that have the emergency system that runs off a separate power source? So if the battery dies it was still able to operate? I'll try find it...

EDIT: looks like it can be done sir.. http://www.powerstream.com/DC-UPS-1212-10A.htm
jeebowhite

Doesnt look like a bad idea! although to be honest, by the time you factor all the costs for it, it probably wouldnt be economically viable to do it...

gazza21

Doesnt look like a bad idea! although to be honest, by the time you factor all the costs for it, it probably wouldnt be economically viable to do it...


Haha maybe not! However it's a good backup system, if you travel a lot.. And it would run the whole electrics, so could hook it up to a few things for relief! Lol
jeebowhite

thats very true! as a mod on its own its a good idea theres no doubt about that!

gazza21
Haha it would be good if you could install one of these on your ford! Would give you that mechanical version instead of the electrical idea I said... http://www.cjponyparts.com/HOOD-RELEASE-CABLE-hood-release-cable-1979-1982/p/HDRC1/

Edit: run one of these from the latch under the good, around and through below the dash to the right hand side of the steering wheel, where you plug in the ELM327 cable.. Would be cool lol. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Pearl-PUBC01-Universal-Bonnet-Release/dp/B007JIHGDK
jeebowhite

Thats the way my plan is favouring at the moment ;)

mixmasterlooney
James racing bonnet pins aren't road legal if the aren't flush with the bonnet. Hazard for pedestrian.

I like the idea though go forth and set the way for us :- )

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jeebowhite

Yeah, racing pins are slipping down my ranks of favour. I have put a bid on a cheap Fusion Bonnet release catch. I think the favour at the moment is that I will remove this system, and get someone to spot weld in the fusion system and jerry rig my own pull to pop system!

mixmasterlooney
There is a guy who done a guide for fitting racing pins to a mustang the guide is great I will try and look it up. He showed how to mark it out etc but bonnet racing pins that are flush with the bonnet are rather costly

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jeebowhite

I found a set that where £45, they didnt stick out, but they did come up from the bonnet about 1 or 2 mm, however, they werent just sticking up pins they were about the size of half the palm of your hand, as the handles?

jeebowhite

I am one step closer to owning this!

 

I bought a fusion catch release off ebay, unfortunately, the packaging was returned to sender, without the catch! so I started looking around. In the end I gave up and phoned my local Small Fords Centre. They asked what I was after, gave them the details and said they should be able to knock something up!

 

They should be able to supply an internal release catch, cable and the safety cable for about £30! Happy Happy days!

 

Left them my details and just awaiting them calling me back with what I need!

salsheikh

that's good news James, lets hope it all works out

jeebowhite

haha, its either going to be a miserable mess, or a huge success... I wonder which direction!

 

The guys didnt come back to me yesterday so I will follow it up at some point after the Christmas period, or into the new year!

jeebowhite

OK so just spoke to the parts people again, they are looking at £20 for the catch and release, and I just need to find a way to get the in car release system, I am definitely going for this!

salsheikh

c'mon james. i'm surprised you havent sorted this out yet!

 

do it old skool style and have the pull mech down the drives side

jeebowhite

Well thats the plan, but I am leaving it to the local small ford centre to gather the parts (I dont really have time to go scrap hunting!)

 

so they are sourcing the main parts! I just need to decide if I to have a kind of "loose"(ish) handle, or whether I can nick one off a fiesta and attach that to the footwell!

 

still working out whether I bring it out passenger or driver side, purely because I now need to locate where there is an available grommet that I can feed it through, or decide if I need to get the drill out!

salsheikh

if you can get the handle and attached plastic holder/trim and cut it out to attach to the drivers/passenger side footwell then this would be good.

i take it there would be a gromet on the drivers side (for l/h drive cars) so maybe you could pass the cable through there, if not then drill a new hole (maybe under the scuttle panel) as normally the cable goes along the top of the inner wing and feed that down to the drivers side?

jeebowhite

thats the hope, I just have to make sure that if I need to drill a hole, I dont end up drilling through something important on the other side :lol:

salsheikh

I suppose your best bet is the grommet on the drivers side or lower down the bulkhead - this you can drill from inside the car....

jeebowhite

need to find that grommet, I presme it will hide under a carpet?

salsheikh

need to find that grommet, I presme it will hide under a carpet?

 

would it not be parallel to the one on the passenger side?

jeebowhite

havent yet seen any grommets, not really looked very hard though :( I am trying to work out if I should drill or use an existing, but I couldnt see one around the pedal level,,,



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