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Jockstar
Just looking for suggestions for suppliers for LED lights for a 2007 Ford Focus.

I'm ideally looking for sidelights, rear brake light on the spoiler (5 bulbs), registration bulbs and reverse light as I think the normal reverse light is a bit pathetic.

I have read other threads but just really looking for supplier suggestions. I've never really bought items on eBay and some of the bulb suppliers have mixed reviews.

Will my Focus require canbus LED lights?

Thanks,

John.
Stoney871

I have a clear LED upper brake light and it's very good.

Similar to this one-

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2004-2008-Ford-Focus-MK2-REAR-SMOKE-CLEAR-LED-THIRD-STOP-BRAKE-LIGHT-LAMP-/360668013384?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item53f97d2348

 

This is the type of bulb I have in my plate lights, 2 years on and still going strong-

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2PC-3-SMD-LED-39mm-239-272-CANBUS-NO-ERROR-XENON-WHITE-NUMBER-PLATE-LIGHT-BULB-/251176832028?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3a7b4e4c1c

 

Reverse bulb has to be a cree type, far brighter and long lasting.

I currently have one like this (382 type)-

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1x-Ford-Focus-MK2-04-11-382-P21W-CREE-LED-Reverse-Bulb-Bright-White-Light-Back-/290869457795?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&fits=Car+Make%3AFord|Model%3AFocus&hash=item43b92bb383

 

But will soon be swapping for one like this for extra brightness-

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/30W-CREE-XENON-WHITE-1156-382-HIGH-POWER-LED-REVERSE-BULB-FORD-/300889168193?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item460e645941

 

If you're going to change the reverse bulb to cree I'd recommend you go for the same in the rear fog light too (same as above type).

As a nice touch, a recognises upgrade is to fit a European reverse lens to replace the red fog lens with a clear one and fit a red cree bulb instead.

 

Clear lens (meant for left hand drive cars but a popular upgrade and a direct swap for the red lens)-

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-FOCUS-MK1-MK2-CLEAR-REAR-BUMPER-FOG-LIGHT-EURO-STYLE-/330925275367?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4d0caef8e7

 

Red cree bulb-

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/REAR-FOG-LIGHT-CREE-RED-LAMP-LED-CAR-BULB-12V-382-P21W-FORD-FOCUS-MK1-/271051023164?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&fits=Car+Make%3AFord|Model%3AFocus&hash=item3f1be6633c

 

I just bought some of these bulbs for my sidelights but until I get to trying them out I can't vouch for fit and light quality-

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/310726622247?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

Jockstar

Thanks for the information Stoney. I've ordered the registration plate bulbs. Did yours throw up any errors? I'm not sure if a 2007 focus will have canbus issues.

 

Thanks,

 

John. 

Stoney871
No errors with any LED bulbs I've ever fitted.
Mikey923
I'm the exact same as Stoney RE never getting any errors with LEDs. However my Fusion is an 04 Reg and I don't know is it even possible to get them! I have a full LED conversion for every possible bulb and have always bought the error free ones from eBay and I'm very pleased with the results.

For your 07 Focus just make sure to get the "Canbus Error Free" bulbs and you should be laughing!
Stoney871

The only bulbs I won't change for LED's are the front and rear indicator bulbs (and headlights of course).

LED's draw much less power than standard incandescent ones and therefore the indicator relays run too fast and the indicators go like the clappers (same as when an indicator bulb blows).

Instead I use Silvertec type ones, they look silver when unlit but amber when powered therefore getting rid of the "fried egg" effect in the light clusters.

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/270914772559?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

Jockstar
Yeah I used the silver osram indicator bulbs back in the day when tinted lights and clear lights were all the rage.

The reason I'd asked was the link you posted for the reg lights stated the lights were error free but the cree reverse light wasn't according to the eBay advert.

I'd like to buy the reverse light but I wasn't sure if it would cause problems or require resistors to be fitted.
Lenny

The only bulbs I won't change for LED's are the front and rear indicator bulbs (and headlights of course).
LED's draw much less power than standard incandescent ones and therefore the indicator relays run too fast and the indicators go like the clappers (same as when an indicator bulb blows).
Instead I use Silvertec type ones, they look silver when unlit but amber when powered therefore getting rid of the "fried egg" effect in the light clusters.
 
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/270914772559?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

+1 the modern ford has a sound effect of the clicking relay indicator,
To successfully fit led indicators the gem software would be required to turn down the pulse,

However
On older cars 1902-2006BC (before Can-bus) :lol:
It is possible to purchase a replacement indicator relay that is a straight swap and has a screw head control knob that can be turned to alter the speed at which the indicators fash
Lenny

Yeah I used the silver osram indicator bulbs back in the day when tinted lights and clear lights were all the rage.
The reason I'd asked was the link you posted for the reg lights stated the lights were error free but the cree reverse light wasn't according to the eBay advert.
I'd like to buy the reverse light but I wasn't sure if it would cause problems or require resistors to be fitted.

The cree reverse bulbs are error free,
Cree reverse bulbs have built in transformers and resistors.
You can send 24v or 12v supply to a Cree reverse bulb and it will work just the same,
But purchase them from the uk, because cree from china are replica items that don't work at all
Jockstar
This is my issue. I'm not sure which eBay suppliers to trust!
Lenny

This is my issue. I'm not sure which eBay suppliers to trust!

I bought mine from alltronix in the uk, they were selling them before eBay ever did
Here's a link:
http://www.alltronix.co.uk/index.php?main_page=index
Jockstar

Thanks Lenny. I'll check it out :)

Jockstar

I just noticed that the festoon bulbs I bought using the link above are 39mm. I've been reading the pinned bulb thread and I've seen people referring to the festoon as being 42mm. Does this mean I've bought the wrong bulb?

Stoney871

The contacts for the festoon bulb are only a couple of sprung metal strips.

If they feel loose you just have to put a bend in the contacts with some pliers to tighten them up.

jeebowhite

if your just after LED bulbs take a look at my7 build thread, whilst some of the dual filaments are in different places (i.e. my tail and fog lights - as opposed to your tail and brake lights) may differ slightly, I believe they are the same bulb - I love my LED's and not had a problem with any of them since I installed them!

Jockstar

Thanks for your help folks. Jeebo, I'll take a look at your thread just now. Apparently my reg LEDs have been dispatched today. I've ordered the Cree Q5 mega bright reverse light (not cheap but hopefully will make a difference) and I've ordered one Cree 501 to trial before I spend anymore.

 

I'll post up pictures on my project thread when they arrive. Car is booked in for paint and a general tidy up at the end of the month so nice lights will finish it off.

jeebowhite

I would have gone with the Cree's if I had a few more quid! they are definately worth more than the LED's I put in my reverse :)

Jockstar

Fitted the registration light bulbs. First picture shows a comparison between old and new. The last two pictures are with both bulbs changed. I noticed that the driver's side bulb holder was in mint condition but the passenger side had rust in it. Cleaned the lens up as best I could but I can only assume water has been getting in. Anyway here's the pictures:

 

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IMG_10631_zpsb28b89e3.jpg

Mikey923
Looks much better! They take years off. Are you going to go for the H4 Xenon Headlights and LED Fogs too?
Jockstar

I've got a Cree reverse light coming and I've bought one Cree 501 LED bulb to trial fit as a sidelight or possibly try fitting it to the middle spoiler brake light. The brake light takes 5 bulbs so a it's quite expensive to buy 5 Cree bulbs (and ideally they probably need to be red as opposed to white)! I'd like to do the headlights and fogs but not sure which bulbs to use. Cree do foglights but they're over £30 pair. I thought about replacing the headlights altogether but aftermarket headlights can sometimes be a bad move. Anyone changed them for non Ford ones?

 

I've heard people talking about Osram nightbreakers but sometimes they criticise the longevity. So not sure what to do next.

Mikey923
I'm delighted with mine and I went for really cheap!
gforce

I had the exact same issue with my tailgate handle, water was getting in and corroding the bulb holder on the passenger side. Went through a few bulbs as a result and it would make an awful mess of the SMD LED bulbs I use. There was a little clip on the far left of the tailgate handle broken and water was getting in here.

 

Got a new tailgate handle complete with lenses and had it colour coded when I had my kit sprayed and no issues since.

 

I still have the old handle and lenses, was gonna keep them as spares in case the new ones had similar issues, but they're in a good while now with no problems so might have at least one good one as a spare if it's any good to you. As I say though, if water's getting in it's only a matter of time before it keeps wrecking bulbs.

 

I'll try get some pics this evening to show you the offending clip and the resulting damage it caused to my bulbs and lens!

 

On the topic of aftermarket headlights, Charlie (Brigante) changed his units and loves the upgrade, check his build thread or give him a shout. I have black ST xenons fitted but with factory 4300k bulbs. Have two spare HID kits lying in the shed though (one came with the headlights and one came fitted to the fogs when I got my complete front bumper), so thinking of trying one of those to test the colour match with the CREE sides and fogs.

Jockstar

That would be handy Gary as I've already replaced the passenger side reg. bulb to get it through its MOT and then the following year I had to replace it again. All the while, the driver's side one is still going strong. I did wonder at the time why it had happened but there's most likely a water ingress issue that you've also experienced.

 

I'm supposed to be getting the tailgate handle colour coded at the end of the month, so if I need to replace it then I need to look into this sooner rather than later. If you can post a picture that would be brilliant as it can point me in the right direction.

 

Thanks,

 

John.

Jockstar

I just phoned up my local Ford dealership and they carry the bulb holder/lens in stock (£7-8) but the tailgate handle is £52 and I'd need to order that in. I'll need to take a look first as I'm not spending that kind of money to find out I have a different problem.

Jockstar

I've taken a look at Charlie's project thread as well and funnily enough the only aftermarket headlights I liked are the ones he bought and fitted! I'm not sure who supplies them but I do like them. The headlights on my car just are the smoked looking standard Ford lights as opposed to the silver/chrome look, but they're crying out for something more interesting!

gforce

No probs bud, I'll take a look this evening if I get time. Think my old tailgate might be lying in the folks' shed is the only thing, but will try get round after work. I didn't get mine form Ford, got it through a classifieds section of another forum for a lot cheaper than that, stroke of luck really. Just made sure the clips were all intact and the lenses came with it!

 

Might be an idea to check local breakers or ebay. Think you're colour is pretty rare, but if you were gonna get one colour coded soon anyway you could pick up one in any colour.

 

As for headlights, my car actually came with the chrome adaptive cornering halogen projectors, but I like the black lights and was lucky enough to pick up a set of black ST xenons. If I sell the car anytime soon I'll have a spare set of headlights in that case, but dunno if you'd be interested in either. Those aftermarket ones are pretty decent by all accounts!

Stoney871
I just bought a set of Depo lights to darken down my front end a bit (£62).
I have heard that they are likely to mist up a couple of times but will settle down once they equalise with the atmosphere.
Jockstar

I bought a new bulb holder/lens to replace the one that has suffered from water ingress. Comes with the two screws to secure it and a new bulb. I don't need the new bulb but one of the screws already on the car is worn so they'll come in handy. I've not fitted it yet as until I get to the bottom of how the water is getting in, there's not much point letting the new one go the same way.

 

I've read that if you undo the two screws inside the tailgate where you put your hands to hold onto the boot the inner trim pulls off. You then unscrew 4 bolts on the inside of the tailgate to release the plastic trim above the registration plate. Some people run sealant along that area before refitting the trim and apparently this can make the water issue go away. Might be a solution.

 

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IMG_10651_zps02734f5b.jpg

 

I've also noticed that the side that has water ingress has one screw that just keeps spinning. One screw seems to tighten up whereas the other one gets a little tighter, then just spins round without getting anymore tight. This might be something or nothing. I'd get in and investigate but the weather in Central Scotland is rather crap at the moment!

gforce

Hi mate, sorry about the delay getting back, aint been on here in a few days...

 

So, I grabbed my boot handle the other night and took a couple of snaps, poor quality but hopefully you can still make it out...First pic shows the driver's side - a little mounting bracket and a round white pop clip. Second pic is passenger side - bracket and clip are both missing.

 

 

 

It's pretty easy taken off, as you say, it's just a matter of removing the interior boot plastics (two screws but lots of little pop clips so needs a good tug), then 4 10mm hex bolts holding the tailgate trim on. On mine, the clip round clip on the passenger side was gone, I could actually pull the trim away from the boot a bit when it was 'fully fitted' so I'm sure this was the source of my water ingress, confirmed by the fact it was only that side that was affected and the fact that it hasn't happened since!

 

Another pointer on the water ingress, it can eventually cause problems with your boot switch too! Mine started playing up last year, I took it apart, cleaned it up and WD40'd it and it was fine til Christmas there. But the recent wet and cold weather has made it temperamental again! At the min it only works with the key fob button. Gonna strip/clean it again this avo as a last chance before sourcing a replacement. Will try take pics as I go if interested, but it's pretty straightforward and self-explanatory when you get started.

 

One word of caution if removing the tailgate handle...take it gently as possible popping out the clips as you'd hate for them to be intact now and break them upon removal! If all is ok then a drop of sealant might be your best bet.

gforce

PS Glad you're sorted for the lens and bulb holder! I thought my spares were still in the handle trim, but they weren't, so they've either fallen out somewhere or I removed them and can't remember where I left them!

Jockstar
Thanks for the pictures. I can make out the bit that you're talking about that's missing. I'll just need to see what mine looks like when I remove it.

I'll update this when I take it apart!
Stoney871

Update on Cree reverse bulb-

I bought this one with multiple Cree LED's-

 

 

To replace this one with only one Cree LED-

 

 

Trust me when I say that the light is more intense and fills the lens far better although the camera can't define any difference between the two due to light brightness.

To the naked eye the new bulb is much brighter and has a superior spread.

 

 

 

 

Jockstar
That's the one I ordered. Waiting at the post office for me :)
Stoney871

Well worth the price IMHO.

You won't look back (pardon the pun :d)

Jockstar
Haha!
Jockstar

Just thought I'd update this as I've fitted the Cree reverse bulb that Stoney was referring to above. I also tried to fit the Cree 501 bulb but it's too damn big for either the central rear brake light or as a front sidelight bulb. Glad I only bought one to dip my toe in the water!

 

Here's the video of the reverse light. Not bad for broad daylight!

 

http://s334.photobucket.com/user/Jockstar205gti/media/IMG_10761_zpsfa917018.mp4.html?sort=3&o=9

 

I'll put a bigger update on my project thread.

Stoney871

Nice ;)

justgotast170

Well I waited for the review, now that seller has sold out. Ill wait a couple of days and order one.

 

 

Good review thanks

 

Daz.

Hyrule

The cree reverse bulbs are error free,
Cree reverse bulbs have built in transformers and resistors.
You can send 24v or 12v supply to a Cree reverse bulb and it will work just the same,
But purchase them from the uk, because cree from china are replica items that don't work at all

+1 definitely, buy from a UK seller. I was stung with my fake chinese cree LED, when I did the dual reverse mod, very very annoying ;)

 

one thing to note, some of these chinese sellers have gotten wise and put the item location as some random city in the UK. However if you look at their feedback, there are an army of buyers, complaining about the item coming from china, rather than the UK, so that's always a tell tell sign.

Jockstar

Well I finally got my hands on some LED sidelight bulbs. I ordered these http://www.alltronix.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=37 but when they sent them out they actually gave me these instead http://www.alltronix.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=211 as the original ones I had ordered were out of stock.

 

Before picture with standard sidelight bulbs:

 

IMG_11191_zps8aa69221.jpg

 

And after the LED sidelight bulbs were put in:

 

IMG_11221_zps68c9c3ac.jpg

 

I changed the headlight bulbs as well but technically that would be going off topic as they're obviously not LED bulbs. I'll put a seperate update on my project thread :)

justgotast170

John are you still happy with the Leds ?

 

 

Daz

Jockstar

To be fair, my car went away to the paint shop the day after these photos were taken so I've not had a chance to look at them properly etc. However, based on my initial opinion, I'd say I'm more than happy. I was disappointed with my headlight bulbs but that's another story.

 

I took a photo of them shortly after it got dark. I think this photo speaks for itself:

 

IMG_11231_zps3dd8b088.jpg

Jockstar

Still buying bulbs lol............I tried to buy 380 double contact Cree Q5 bulbs from Alltronix but they stated they are no longer in stock and they weren't intending on getting them back in. I found this link on ebay:

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-x-Rear-Tail-Brake-Stop-Lights-Lamp-CREE-Q5-LED-Bulb-BA15S-380-P21-5W-RED-1157-/290940956315?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item43bd6eae9b

 

But the picture of the bulb looks different to the Alltronix one here:

 

http://www.alltronix.co.uk/index.php?main_page=popup_image&pID=322

 

Are the ebay bulbs fake?

Jockstar

Just incase anyone was thinking of doing the interior light in the mk2 Focus (basic single interior light) it's a 42mm Festoon. I bought this one from Alltronix:

 

http://www.alltronix.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=27

 

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Looks much better in real life. Definitely brighter than the original yellow looking festoon.

 

I also fitted another LED sidelight bulb in my boot :

 

IMG_11531_zps13a89919.jpg

 

As Stoney has suggested, it's best to first remove fuse number 80 from the fuse box underneath the glove box. I blew the fuse in the car with relative ease. It's a 10 amp fuse by the way. Fuse number 80 seems to be for both the interior and boot light.

artscot79
See how those sidelight leds work out they tend to go faulty quickly sometimes days weeks or months later as the heat from the mk2 headlight kills them thats why i stopped buying leds for the lights
Jockstar
The dipped headlight bulb kills the LED because of heat soak?
Stepmg

On the note of side lights, what type are people using? I have tried led ones, not entirely sure where I got them from but one of them has failed and now looks like I'm a mobile disco.

jeebowhite

have a look at my build thread (link in the signature) thats the 501W I use and they are still going strong!

theduke

I had 5 smd ones that flickered without using dipped beam maybe they were just be cheap, Just bought some cree ones wonder how long they will last :mellow:

artscot79

cheap or not on the mk2 they wont last too much heat in the lens just buy youreself diamond white side light bulbs http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ULTRA-AUTO-XENON-DIAMOND-EXTREME-WHITE-501-W5W-SIDE-LIGHT-BULB-BULBS-A-PAIR-/370660591316?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item564d17c6d4



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