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greenymk7
Thought id start a thread that could be pinned so anyone can et an info quickly and easily and ask any questions they like.

Im sure myself and mr dan will always be willing to help out.

il start off with all of the new products that i have bought :lol:

zymol sponge
bilt hamber auto clay
bilt hamber surfex HD
Super Natural Shampoo
Swissvax style brushes
finger mitt applicators

[Edit from DanGull - there is now a detailing section on the boards, so I have changed this to a specifically Fiesta-based topic and pinned it]

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DanGull
Finger mitts are fantastic, as are the brushes.

Supernatural shampoo I'm not impressed by. I got a sample with an order from somewhere and Born to be Mild is much better for me.

Bank balance groaning greeny? :lol:

Good idea for a sticky thread. I'm always happy to help.
Flic
Oh super, is this the correct thread to make an appointment for Fabio? :P
titanium_s_spec
hi there
picking new car up Friday,what do i need to keep it in reasonable condition from new as this is my first ever brand new car.so what polish,wax ,wash,mitt ,drying cloth,polishing application do i need as i have seen the stuff in halfrauds the American stuff is it any good and can some 1 list what i require please.
greenymk7
how much money do you have :lol:

do you have a pressure washer? and what products do you currently own?
titanium_s_spec
yes have pressure washer karcher and just the usual standard bubbles and mer and shamy and blade for water removal and dreaded sponge .and cheap tire dresser and wheel cleaner looking at the yank stuff in hafrauds gonna need 100 quid for initial out lay me thinks but there areso many cloths and polishes etc got confused and left it all there.seemed that they used a round ponge thing to apply polish.and a mit to wash and a cloth to dry is that correct and do i need wax as well as polish.
DanGull
[quote name='titanium_s_spec' post='41880' date='Sep 6 2009, 02:56 PM']hi there
picking new car up Friday,what do i need to keep it in reasonable condition from new as this is my first ever brand new car.so what polish,wax ,wash,mitt ,drying cloth,polishing application do i need as i have seen the stuff in halfrauds the American stuff is it any good and can some 1 list what i require please.[/quote]

By the American stuff - you probably mean Meguairs. They make several good products - the only two I use myself are the NXT metal polish and their excellent tyre dressing. If Halfords still have their 3 for 2 on, it's worth picking some products up in there and then finding the rest from an online detailing supplier such as I4D, Ultimate Finish or Clean Your Car.

Megs gold class wash has good reviews generally and so does their clay kit. However - things like their paint cleansing system and polishes seem to be out performed by other (and cheaper) brands.

As greeny says - it's all down to budget really. A comprehensive detailing set up can pass 500 easy, but at the same time the basics can be had for 100.

Absolute essentials as far as I'm concerned -

High quality shampoo (Dodo Born to be Mild or Sour Pour or Supernatural, Megs Gold Class or similar)
Microfibre or lambswool washmitt (Dodo Wookie's fist or my favourite - the Megs microfibre mitt)
Large drying towel (Dodo Supernatural, Sonus or similar)
Good hard wax (Autoglym High Def, the relevant Dodo wax based on your car's colour, or Dodo Supernatural all spring to mind)
Tyre dressing (Megs or Blackfire)
A good number of decent microfibre cloths
A few foam applicators

Then to be considered -

Snow foam lance and foam for a pressure washer
Two buckets - both with grit guards
Citrus prewash
Wheel cleaner (ACID FREE - Bilberry or AG Customer wheel cleaner for example)
All purpose cleaner (Megs' is great)
Degreaser/machine cleaner (Megs again, Autoglym works ok)
Detailing clay (Sonus green or Dodo Supernatural) and lube (Dodo Born Slippy)
Paint cleanser/primer (Dodo Lime Prime)
Quick detailer (Dodo Red Mist, Megs Last Touch)
Machine polisher
DanGull
[quote name='titanium_s_spec' post='41885' date='Sep 6 2009, 03:21 PM']yes have pressure washer karcher and just the usual standard bubbles and mer and shamy and blade for water removal and dreaded sponge .and cheap tire dresser and wheel cleaner looking at the yank stuff in hafrauds gonna need 100 quid for initial out lay me thinks but there areso many cloths and polishes etc got confused and left it all there.seemed that they used a round ponge thing to apply polish.and a mit to wash and a cloth to dry is that correct and do i need wax as well as polish.[/quote]

Step away from the drying blade, chamois and sponge. Swirl central from those.

Polish is used to correct the paint - that is remove (minor) scratches and imperfections. It is NOT a final coat product. I use Autoglym Super Resin polish after the last wash if my paint is in need of attention. Dodo Lime Prime does a similar job this but also forms a better layer to put a wax onto. I prefer to use SRP and then Lime Prime Lite as a base for my wax, but SRP alone or Lime Prime alone will do.

Cloths - you can never have two many. Three basics types -

1. standard microfibre - quite a short pile, useful for general cleaning jobs
2. drying microfibre - much plusher, used for drying the car
3. applicators - usually made of foam, but I have some microfibre ones too.

You need at least one drying towel, and then a few of each of the other two types.

Check if your wheels cleaner has acid in it. Chances are it does. The Fiesta's wheels are not especially hardy - I wouldn't touch them with an acid based cleaner.
titanium_s_spec
blimey ok have to look online for the stuff if its cheaper any good sites to see these products.
DanGull
[url="http://www.theultimatefinish.co.uk/Default.aspx"]Ultimate Finish[/url]

[url="http://www.i4detailing.co.uk/"]i4Detailing[/url]

[url="http://www.carnaubawaxshop.co.uk/index.php"]Rubbishboy's[/url]

[url="http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/"]Clean Your Car[/url]
titanium_s_spec
cheers dan will have a look
DanGull
Incidentally - when it's back in stock this is a fantastic bundle. The wax alone is 75 on its own.

[url="http://www.carnaubawaxshop.co.uk/shop/viewproduct.php?product_id=104"]Rubbishboy's Supernatural Bundle[/url]
DanGull
And this is great too - and in stock now. You choose the wax based o your car's colour.

[url="http://www.carnaubawaxshop.co.uk/shop/viewproduct.php?product_id=104"]Rubbishboy's starter bundle[/url]
FezzaT
Found a really good guide here on safe washing techniques:

[url="http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=27"]http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=27[/url]
greenymk7
i can vouch for all the links that dan has put up.

they all have great service and the prices don't vary to much.

if you have the pressure washer spend 50 on the foam lance and ul love it
DanGull
[quote name='greenymk7' post='41916' date='Sep 6 2009, 05:49 PM']i can vouch for all the links that dan has put up.

they all have great service and the prices don't vary to much.

if you have the pressure washer spend 50 on the foam lance and ul love it[/quote]

Seconded! Best bit of the wash - great fun :lol:
sussex
I use Autoglym ultra deep shine wax and after, Autoglym Extra Gloss Protection and am pretty happy with the results, however just wonder if there is any other (decent priced) wax and gloss/polish I could try?

I dont really want to spend a huge amount because, these 2 products I use cost me a tenner and the results are good but anything affordable anyone can suggest Id be all ears.

[url="http://www.carcarenut.co.uk/details1.asp?ProductID=30&name=meguiars-gold-class-liquid-wax.htm"]http://www.carcarenut.co.uk/details1.asp?P...-liquid-wax.htm[/url] is this any good?

thanks
DanGull
For the price, you'll struggle to match EGP - however you'll get a better result with EGP over Super Resin Polish rather than over UDS.

Stick with that rather than using liquid waxes - the Autoglym products are only cheap because they're synthetic rather than wax based - not because they're poor quality.
greenymk7
just remember that a decent hard wax (any of the dodo range or AG HD) cost abit more but they will last alot longer.

you could get 4/5 years out of a good pot of wax.
TJ-MK.J
[quote name='greenymk7' post='41927' date='Sep 6 2009, 06:42 PM']just remember that a decent hard wax (any of the dodo range or AG HD) cost abit more but they will last alot longer.

you could get 4/5 years out of a good pot of wax.[/quote]I am one who is still waiting for their car to arrive . I have learnt a lot on how to look after my new car on this forum I have made a list of all the products I need to keep it looking good thanks for all the advice, my drying blade is going in the bin! I am sure that is what caused some scratches on my mini, anyway the questions for those of you in the know, after getting my new car home should I give it the full teatment straight away ie wax it?
greenymk7
without a doubt yes!!!

ford wont have full protection on the car, and with autumn just round the corner now is the time to sort everything out.
Fraser.
I'm just about to order all of my detailing gear before the car arrives. Also I didn't think I'd be getting a machine polisher just yet but after following a thread over on the detailing world forums regarding budget random orbit machine polishers, I couldn't resist purchasing a 20 clearance MacAllister random orbit sander/polisher from b&q lol.

So far I've decided on...

Duragloss #901 shampoo
Bilt Hamber clay
Menzerna PO23S Power Finish polish (not sure the fiesta will need this straight away, but other family cars certainly do lol)
Menzerna orange and yellow polishing pads
AutoGlym Super Resin Polish (may or may not get this, read a few posts suggesting it's a good base for the fk1000p)
Finish Kare 1000p sealant
Various microfibre cloths etc.

Looking forward to get all of this, gonna have a practice on the family cars before mine arrives next monday :)
greenymk7
thought id add 2 nice reflection shots that i got at the start of the summer.

[img]http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n78/greeny2k6/Photo0055.jpg[/img]

[img]http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n78/greeny2k6/Photo0059.jpg[/img]
titanium_s_spec
X3070 High Tech Applicator Pad (2 pack) None 3.47 3.47
X2000 Water Magnet Drying Towel None 11.30 11.30
MO-155200 Microfibre Ultra Soft Polishing Cloth None 8.65 8.65
X3090 Tyre Dressing Applicator Pad None 4.34 4.34
G7516EU Endurance High Gloss Tyre Gel None 7.82 7.82
PBWS Wheel Sealant None 11.09 11.09
G9524EU Hot Rims All Wheel Cleaner None 6.95 6.95
DJOC250 Orange Crush None 27.78 27.78
A7301 Lambswool Wash Mitt None 8.69 8.69
G7164 GC Shampoo & Conditioner - Large None 13.90 13.90
is this lot any good b4 i order it
greenymk7
X3070 High Tech Applicator Pad (2 pack) None 3.47 3.47 - yes
X2000 Water Magnet Drying Towel None 11.30 11.30 - yes
MO-155200 Microfibre Ultra Soft Polishing Cloth None 8.65 8.65 - yes get as many microfibres as possible
X3090 Tyre Dressing Applicator Pad None 4.34 4.34 - yes
G7516EU Endurance High Gloss Tyre Gel None 7.82 7.82 - yes
PBWS Wheel Sealant None 11.09 11.09 - yes great stuff
G9524EU Hot Rims All Wheel Cleaner None 6.95 6.95 - its good but i would go for bilberry wheel cleaner
DJOC250 Orange Crush None 27.78 27.78 - i would go for a hard wax instead, probs hard candy
A7301 Lambswool Wash Mitt None 8.69 8.69 - Yes
G7164 GC Shampoo & Conditioner - Large None 13.90 13.90 - Yes
is this lot any good b4 i order it
titanium_s_spec
cheers now it means having to shop on 2 sites lol and have to pay postage for the wheel cleaner grrrrrrrrrrrr :rolleyes: :unsure: :angry:
UKChris
Ok since i am expecting Mr Ford stork to deliver my baby by the end of the month i have ordered the following, going to practise on the Yaris first.

The Wookie's Fist (i need to brush this before use, grass seeds. what was chewy doing to him self)
Dodo Juice 'Supernatural' Carnauba Wax Plastic Pot
Dodo Juice 'Born Slippy
Dodo Juice Gentle Grey Paint- putty
Dodo Juice 'Lime Prime Lite'-
Meguiar's Grit Guard
Dodo Juice Red Mist Spray
Supernatural Microfibre Drying Towel
Blue Roo Pouched Polish Applicator


Did I miss anything? I know I haven't got anything for the tyres.
greenymk7
erm looks pretty good to me.

i would get lots of applicators and microfibres and something for your wheels and glass.

ideally get some poorboys wheel sealent to help protect the wheels :)
DanGull
S Spec - I agree with Greeny. Orange Crush is lovely stuff, but I only ever put soft wax over hard wax, so get that first. Hard Candy is BRILLIANT.

Bilberry is worth paying the extra for. Autoglym Custom Wheel cleaner is an alternative but it's simply not as good. Don't forget you'll need a chemical resistant sprayer and bottle to use Bilberry - straight out of the bottle undiluted it's too strong for all but the most thorough soiling.

Don't spend 8.95 on every microfibre you buy. I have a plush one for Red Mist and another for removing wax, but other than that I have cheap Halfords/pound shop jobs.

Chris - if you're going to the trouble of buying a grit guard, you should also use the two bucket method, so I suggest you get two.

Blue Roo is ok, but it's a fabric pad. These tend to be better with liquids, foam pads are better for hard waxes like Supernatural.

On the clay front, I find Sonus green bars are better value for money.

Greeny and I seem to buy plenty of the same stuff - Poorboys wheel sealant is indeed the mutt's nuts, stuff just falls off after three coats.
UKChris
Thanks for that.

I am going to use the two bucket method, but wasn't keen on spending an extra 20 on a second grit guard bucket, i was going to try the grit guard on my normal bucket to see if it fits.

I am wondering if i got the right shampoo?

I will order some foam pads when i order the poorboys wheel sealent.
DanGull
What did you get Chris for shampoo? I'm in the Chatzy room if you want any help...
greenymk7
woop woop all my new stuff has come

[img]http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n78/greeny2k6/IMG_0016.jpg[/img]

time for a clean :lol:
UKChris
That's the only thin g you can't order, a nice day to clean your car
Bashful
[quote name='greenymk7' post='42185' date='Sep 8 2009, 03:50 PM']woop woop all my new stuff has come

[img]http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n78/greeny2k6/IMG_0016.jpg[/img]

time for a clean :lol:[/quote]

What's the sponge for Greeny? I thought we don't do sponges?!
greenymk7
halfrauds and petrol station sponges are a big no no because of the silicone added to it.

this is a zymol sponge, iv used a microfibre mitt and a lambs wool mitt so i thought i would try the other most used method of a zymol sponge to see which one i prefer :lol: i will report back with my findings and pictures after my detail on friday afternoon

:)
Bashful
[quote name='greenymk7' post='42213' date='Sep 8 2009, 06:58 PM']halfrauds and petrol station sponges are a big no no because of the silicone added to it.

this is a zymol sponge, iv used a microfibre mitt and a lambs wool mitt so i thought i would try the other most used method of a zymol sponge to see which one i prefer :lol: i will report back with my findings and pictures after my detail on friday afternoon

:)[/quote]


I was right in thinking this is complicated :lol:
greenymk7
:lol:

people say that as its a natural sponge its kind to the paintwork and doesnt let things get trapped into it like a mitt.

i have to say that im not sure y its not like any other natural sponge but il give it a test anyway :lol: all in the aid of helping fiesta's around the land :D
Bashful
[quote name='greenymk7' post='42218' date='Sep 8 2009, 07:06 PM']:lol:

people say that as its a natural sponge its kind to the paintwork and doesnt let things get trapped into it like a mitt.

i have to say that im not sure y its not like any other natural sponge but il give it a test anyway :lol: all in the aid of helping fiesta's around the land :D[/quote]

Look forward to your results! It sure doesn't look like what I would consider a natural sponge.
FezzaT
Quick Q for the experts:

When applying wheel sealant, do you to the whole inside of your alloy wheels? Just wondering as I was doing it yesterday and it's a real pain to access the inner bits - do you just do the spokes?
greenymk7
ideally you want to do the whole of the wheel.

i took all of my wheels off when i sealed mine and i put about 4 coats on.

if u cant be bothered then u don't have to but it will help if you do when its new instead of trying to get lots of brake dust off
FezzaT
[quote name='greenymk7' post='42231' date='Sep 8 2009, 07:42 PM']ideally you want to do the whole of the wheel.

i took all of my wheels off when i sealed mine and i put about 4 coats on.

if u cant be bothered then u don't have to but it will help if you do when its new instead of trying to get lots of brake dust off[/quote]

Ah right, thanks greeny! Think I'll set aside this saturday and dedicate it to doing it all properly!
FezzaT
[quote name='FezzaT' post='42240' date='Sep 8 2009, 07:52 PM']Ah right, thanks greeny! Think I'll set aside this saturday and dedicate it to doing it all properly![/quote]


One other thing, has any one else noticed the paint come off the locking wheel nut on the alloys? or is that just me?
FezzaT
[quote name='FezzaT' post='42242' date='Sep 8 2009, 07:54 PM']One other thing, has any one else noticed the paint come off the locking wheel nut on the alloys? or is that just me?[/quote]

anyone?
greenymk7
my nuts have always been ok :lol:
DanGull
Went out this morning and couldn't resist taking some beading shots. This is what two coats of Autoglym HD and one of Dodo Red Mist can produce...

[img]http://i897.photobucket.com/albums/ac172/DanGull237/DSC01031.jpg[/img]

[img]http://i897.photobucket.com/albums/ac172/DanGull237/DSC01033.jpg[/img]
aph1101
[quote name='DanGull' post='42441' date='Sep 9 2009, 05:41 PM']Went out this morning and couldn't resist taking some beading shots. This is what two coats of Autoglym HD and one of Dodo Red Mist can produce...[/quote]

Haha...that looks awesome :D
titanium_s_spec
so when you drive it like that i take it the wind drys the car?
UKChris
Dan

I'm not going to use that stuff, look what it's done to your white Fiesta :rolleyes:
greenymk7
well i have detailed my car today, bit of a nightmare!!

started out early morning perfect weather, about 10 in the morning and the car starts to bake so had to give up until my driveway was partly covered in shade.

i didnt get many pictures to be honest but i will get some tomoz also going to give it another coat of blue velvet tomoz followed by some red mist on friday.

today it went.

pre wash
foam
wash
wheels
foam
wash
partly clayed
foam
wash
lime prime
wax

:)

i have to say its looking bootiful :lol:
greenymk7
ok so i promised some pictures, i didnt get many during the detail as i was trying to do it fairly fast due to the hot weather.

the products i used
[img]http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n78/greeny2k6/IMG_0017.jpg[/img]

as you can see the car was pretty dirty as iv been busy recently
[img]http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n78/greeny2k6/IMG_0018.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n78/greeny2k6/IMG_0020.jpg[/img]

the only 2 shots i got during the process was of the surfex HD on the car
[img]http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n78/greeny2k6/IMG_0021.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n78/greeny2k6/IMG_0022.jpg[/img]

and then this morning i got some shots of it all clean (well kind of as there are a few water marks from last night)
[img]http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n78/greeny2k6/IMG_0023.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n78/greeny2k6/IMG_0025.jpg[/img]

and some reflections
[img]http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n78/greeny2k6/IMG_0026.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n78/greeny2k6/IMG_0027.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n78/greeny2k6/IMG_0028.jpg[/img]

more wax will be put on tomoz


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