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titanium_s_spec
ok so can i just wash then apply hard wax after and its lime prime i have ..............
DanGull
You can - yes. The paint cleanser will improve the way the wax bonds to the surface however. I have both Lime Prime and Lime Prime Lite - that way if I need correction I can use the Lime Prime, and if I don't I can use Lime Prime Lite.
Michael P
*slowly regrets buying Megs paint cleaner*
DanGull
[quote name='Michael P' post='44608' date='Sep 27 2009, 08:03 PM']*slowly regrets buying Megs paint cleaner*[/quote]

Take it back and get another order into I4D...it's the same price :lol:
Michael P
[quote name='DanGull' post='44609' date='Sep 27 2009, 08:06 PM']Take it back and get another order into I4D...it's the same price :lol:[/quote]

ahh it isn't, thats why i bought it. it was 9 in halfords and the lime prime including postage would be 15
titanium_s_spec
another question can u get an inline water filter for karcher preasure washer as my water is very hard and leaves white marks if not dried quickly enough lol i do like a cup of tea during cleaning and u no what they say we can't multi task sorry guys
greenymk7
you can get inline filters but most of them say don't use it with a pressure washer.

the aqua gleam ones are very good and i know a few people that do use them with pressure washers and in their buckets.

[url="http://www.theultimatefinish.co.uk/aqua-gleam/0ppm-de-ionising-water-filter-12.aspx"]http://www.theultimatefinish.co.uk/aqua-gl...-filter-12.aspx[/url]
titanium_s_spec
ok will make do with marks and just have to work harder and faster 50 notes gulp gulp
smurfs
I live in a very hard water area and I have been using rainwater from my garden waterbutt for a long time now, I use a pair of the OH tights as a filter and as rainwater is very soft I get no watermarks whatsoever and any shampoo thats used really foams up. If you have a waterbutt give it a try its free. :P
Gazjs
What excatly should poorboys wheel sealent be doing?
I put 4 coats on, on sunday and find the wheels dirty with brake dust already.
Is the wheel sealent just to make it easier to wash off?
irononreverse
[quote name='smurfs' post='44880' date='Sep 29 2009, 07:15 PM']I live in a very hard water area and I have been using rainwater from my garden waterbutt for a long time now, I use a pair of the OH tights as a filter and as rainwater is very soft I get no watermarks whatsoever and any shampoo thats used really foams up. If you have a waterbutt give it a try its free. :P[/quote]

That's really weeeird, I thought soft water made it really difficult to get a good lather up.
greenymk7
Gaz,

the poorboys wheels sealent is purely there to make it easier to wash your wheels and to protect them from the brake dust eating into the wheels.

over a longer period you will notice the difference
titanium_s_spec
[quote name='irononreverse' post='44910' date='Sep 29 2009, 11:23 PM']That's really weeeird, I thought soft water made it really difficult to get a good lather up.[/quote]
no soft water gives a good lather .... also hard to use rain water with a pressure washer :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :unsure: :unsure:
greenymk7
even thought they are 50 the aqua gleam filters are great. if your having trouble with water marks there is a product from duragloss to get rid of them without hurting your wax layers.
irononreverse
[quote name='titanium_s_spec' post='44958' date='Sep 30 2009, 02:10 PM']no soft water gives a good lather .... also hard to use rain water with a pressure washer :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :unsure: :unsure:[/quote]

Oh yeah, I was mistaken. Been a while since I thought about hard/soft water...
Gazjs
[quote name='greenymk7' post='44934' date='Sep 30 2009, 09:49 AM']Gaz,

the poorboys wheels sealent is purely there to make it easier to wash your wheels and to protect them from the brake dust eating into the wheels.

over a longer period you will notice the difference[/quote]

thanks, thought maybe i had applied it wrong :lol:
MarkyR
hmm, I've noticed some small black dots on my car that just rub off, I suspect it's the same thing? Will give it a wash on saturday. If I do give it a wax what's the best product for lazy people like me?
I have my own little power wash but will probably leave that for the summer. But if you guy's can suggest a wax or something that's good for all year round and means I don't have to clay etc etc I may have a go. I did spend the first year I had my last car washing and waxing it, but that was a few years ago now haha.
DanGull
Sounds like you want a spray wax or sealant Marky.

The Durogloss Aquawax I mentioned earlier in this thread is AWESOME.
Autoglym also make an Aqua wax.
Red Mist by Dodo juice doesn't have to go over wax, it can be use don bare paint.
greenymk7
for quick and simple products that can layer up very quickly over winter you want to go for a sealent.

FK 1000P
Megs 16
collinite 915

all of these can be layered up fairly quickly but take a little longer to put on than a spray but not as long as wax to cure.
MarkyR
THanks guy's, I'll have a look into the products, will need to get a collection of mitts as well. I'm going to just use the local garage jetwash this weekend as I heard the weather is going to be rubbish, so it'll give me a chance to do some browsing.
I think it's going to take more effort to keep a white car clean! Judging by the dirt it's collected already, and I see it shows up those small black spots of sap or whatever from trees and bushes. grrrrr.
greenymk7
got my tin of Finish Kare 1000P this morning and its huuuuuuge :lol: and for 14 baaaaaaargain

weather is looking abit ribbish this morning so i mite not be able to use it but il give it a go. Will be using it on my dads and my grandads car as mine has already had lots of wax on so would take some time to get it all off again.

il give you the results asap
Gazjs
I have used Zero cleaning products on my alloys although i have 4 coats of poorboys on each. I usally tend to just use hot water with meguiars next Generation shampoo to wash them. Does anyone have any goog alloy cleaner they use?, any shampoo that is better than megs?
Thanks
greenymk7
bilberry wheel cleaner is most detailers preference.

buy it and dilute it down so it last a long time aswell. you will need a chemical resistent sprayer for it also
Gazjs
i currently use megs step 2 polish, this is a great product, but i feel its time for change. Will auto glymm super resien be suitable for under my dodo juice?
greenymk7
It will be but unless u want to take out very minor swirl marks then id go with some lime prime lite. With it being a paint cleanse it leaves a great base for wax or sealent
Gazjs
Thanks once again greeny
Michael P
I come here to ask when i should apply super resin polish, and it gets answered for me! love it :)
tetra
whats this detailing all about then? waxing?

I got dimond brite free. do i still need to 'detail'?
irononreverse
[quote name='tetra' post='45369' date='Oct 5 2009, 10:30 AM']whats this detailing all about then? waxing?

I got dimond brite free. do i still need to 'detail'?[/quote]

Detailing is basically making your car look nice and shiny and protecting it from the elements. Greenymk is the one to go to for oddly obsessive detailing.

Basically, a proper full on detailing involves:

Washing
Drying
Polishing
Applying wax/sealant to bodywork and alloys

Then there's all the stuff to make your wheels and trim look black, and all sorts.


If you've got Diamondbrite then you'll just need to make sure you use the Diamondbrite polishes and stuff to keep the layer protected.
greenymk7
detailing is an obsession :lol:

depending on what you want to do either wash your car with only diamondbrite products or it will end up coming off anyway, ooooooor you can take it off and protect your car properly :lol:

theres alot of stuff to get to know but just give this thread a read from the start and ul soon pick up on some tips
Michael P
There isn't alot of diamondbrite love round here!
ChrisZetecS
Heres one for the experts..
My car is 10 months old now and just ticked over 18,000 miles :lol: and the seats/carpets etc are looking like they need a good valet. I have acess to a 'vax' and want to know what interior shampoo/products I should get to give my interior a good valet.
Hook
Picked up my Hot Magenta Zetec yesterday, which dodo juice wax is going to best for it? Any recommendations.

Ta
dan
DanGull
[quote name='ChrisZetecS' post='45912' date='Oct 11 2009, 06:56 PM']Heres one for the experts..
My car is 10 months old now and just ticked over 18,000 miles :lol: and the seats/carpets etc are looking like they need a good valet. I have acess to a 'vax' and want to know what interior shampoo/products I should get to give my interior a good valet.[/quote]

I use various products on the inside. One of which is also used on the outside - Megs All Purpose Cleaner. I also use Autoglym leather cleaner and cream and a touch of back to black.


[quote name='Hook' post='45928' date='Oct 11 2009, 08:21 PM']Picked up my Hot Magenta Zetec yesterday, which dodo juice wax is going to best for it? Any recommendations.

Ta
dan[/quote]

Hard Candy would seem the natural choice for Hot Magenta, but if I were in your position I'd try Blue Velvet (if you can stand to wait the Pro version is about to appear) with Purple Haze Pro over the top.

Alternatively, get a Dodo tester kit and try some different waxes on different panels. Colour charging doesn't prevent you using a wax on a different colour, it just changes the outcome and look. I have plans for a blue velvet/purple haze combo on white paint imminently for example.
FMC
[quote name='DanGull' post='45929' date='Oct 11 2009, 08:27 PM']I have plans for a blue velvet/purple haze combo on white paint imminently for example.[/quote]

Now THIS i am looking forward to seeing the results of! B) I suggested this to a mate who's got a white car ages ago but he never went for it - now that i have a Frozen White Zetec S on order i'm very curious to learn whether coloured waxes give a sort of iridescence :)

I have a question for all you fellow Fiesta detailers - I have instructed my dealer NOT to valet the car on PDI - I intend to give it a full detail from the word go because i had sever problems with dealer-inflicted swirls when we bought our ST.

Do you think this is a wise move or not? (I have experience in detailing but I am concerned that it may be more trouble in having the car delivered without a PDI valet than not, becasue i will need to sign a disclaimer of some sorts? :unsure: )
Michael P
[quote name='FMC' post='45945' date='Oct 11 2009, 09:13 PM']Now THIS i am looking forward to seeing the results of! B) I suggested this to a mate who's got a white car ages ago but he never went for it - now that i have a Frozen White Zetec S on order i'm very curious to learn whether coloured waxes give a sort of iridescence :)

I have a question for all you fellow Fiesta detailers - I have instructed my dealer NOT to valet the car on PDI - I intend to give it a full detail from the word go because i had sever problems with dealer-inflicted swirls when we bought our ST.

Do you think this is a wise move or not? (I have experience in detailing but I am concerned that it may be more trouble in having the car delivered without a PDI valet than not, becasue i will need to sign a disclaimer of some sorts? :unsure: )[/quote]

i know DanGull didn't have his car cleaned by his dealer when he got his so i shouldn't imagine it to be a problem :) welcome to the forums by the way
DanGull
[quote name='FMC' post='45945' date='Oct 11 2009, 09:13 PM']Now THIS i am looking forward to seeing the results of! B) I suggested this to a mate who's got a white car ages ago but he never went for it - now that i have a Frozen White Zetec S on order i'm very curious to learn whether coloured waxes give a sort of iridescence :)

I have a question for all you fellow Fiesta detailers - I have instructed my dealer NOT to valet the car on PDI - I intend to give it a full detail from the word go because i had sever problems with dealer-inflicted swirls when we bought our ST.

Do you think this is a wise move or not? (I have experience in detailing but I am concerned that it may be more trouble in having the car delivered without a PDI valet than not, becasue i will need to sign a disclaimer of some sorts? :unsure: )[/quote]

I took delivery of an untouched car (it still had plastic on in places) and didn't sign anything. I think it's a wise move.

I'm not sure the darker waxes will look at all different - the only reason I'm trying it is to make application easier, I'll be able to see my layers much more clearly prior to removal to check for evenness and the fact that I've covered every part of the panel.
Michael P
NOTE TO MICHAEL P FROM DAN GULL:

Please don't post offensive images on FOC.

:lol:

(Don't worry folks, he's not really in trouble, I just can't allow pictures of FILTHY cars on the detailing thread)
Hook
My Zetec was a pre-registered, so it had been washed several times by the dealership - it's got quite a few swirls on which is a bit annoying :(
DanGull
[quote name='Hook' post='45960' date='Oct 11 2009, 09:37 PM']My Zetec was a pre-registered, so it had been washed several times by the dealership - it's got quite a few swirls on which is a bit annoying :([/quote]

Look on it as an excuse to buy a machine polisher...

;)
Michael P
OI!
Hook
[quote name='DanGull' post='45961' date='Oct 11 2009, 09:38 PM']Look on it as an excuse to buy a machine polisher...

;)[/quote]

That's going to have to be next month's purchase. Things are a little bit tight now ^_^
greenymk7
i had abit of a session today aswell my silverline turned up during the week and some pads and other things.

gave it a go on my dads fairly new 09 citreon C5. will post pics up very shortly on how it went.

unfortunately mine has got a few swirls on it but that will have to wait till spring as i have now 5 layers of blue velvet on.

my dads car was also finished off with 2 layers of FK1000P which was pretty easy to use.
Michael P
[quote name='greenymk7' post='45971' date='Oct 11 2009, 10:00 PM']i had abit of a session today aswell my silverline turned up during the week and some pads and other things.

gave it a go on my dads fairly new 09 citreon C5. will post pics up very shortly on how it went.

unfortunately mine has got a few swirls on it but that will have to wait till spring as i have now 5 layers of blue velvet on.

my dads car was also finished off with 2 layers of FK1000P which was pretty easy to use.[/quote]
i look forward to the pictures!
FMC
[quote name='DanGull' post='45956' date='Oct 11 2009, 09:30 PM']I took delivery of an untouched car (it still had plastic on in places) and didn't sign anything. I think it's a wise move.[/quote]

I may refuse to sign anything in that case, thanks ;)

[quote name='DanGull' post='45956' date='Oct 11 2009, 09:30 PM']I'm not sure the darker waxes will look at all different - the only reason I'm trying it is to make application easier, I'll be able to see my layers much more clearly prior to removal to check for evenness and the fact that I've covered every part of the panel.[/quote]

That's just genius! :P

[quote name='DanGull' post='45961' date='Oct 11 2009, 09:38 PM']Look on it as an excuse to buy a machine polisher...[/quote]

Or do what I did and convince a family member (in my case my brother) that they simply must have a PorterCable [other machine polishers can also be slected ;)] and just borrow it every time you need to detail :D
Hook
[quote name='FMC' post='45977' date='Oct 11 2009, 10:12 PM']Or do what I did and convince a family member (in my case my brother) that they simply must have a PorterCable [other machine polishers can also be slected ;)] and just borrow it every time you need to detail :D[/quote]

My dad may have one... :-"
DanGull
Goodies arrived today - Dodo Purple Haze (not pro, I'm allergic to that as well as Red Mist <_<) and Blue Velvet. Delivered from I4D with amazing service as ever - they even include a decent mf and foam applicator with each pot of wax.

Also got some new clay. Back to Dodo Supernatural as it's much cheaper than Sonus pound for pound.

I plan to strip everything off this weekend and get the car Juiced up with these new (well, new to me) colour charged waxes. I also took delivery of a pot of Swissvax Glacier, though that's more for my ever increasing wax collection than to actually go on the car :P:lol:

[img]http://i897.photobucket.com/albums/ac172/DanGull237/DSC01034.jpg[/img]

[img]http://i897.photobucket.com/albums/ac172/DanGull237/DSC01035.jpg[/img]
greenymk7
woop woop

all hail the dodo :lol:

im onto my mums car this weekend with FK1000P again :D

dan what do you use on your windows? do u have any sealents on?
DanGull
[quote name='greenymk7' post='46245' date='Oct 14 2009, 10:04 PM']woop woop

all hail the dodo :lol:

im onto my mums car this weekend with FK1000P again :D

dan what do you use on your windows? do u have any sealents on?[/quote]

Evening greeny,

I haven't got anything on the glass at present - just use Megs glass cleaner (the concentrated one), although I do have a bottle of RainX and when I was using Red Mist wasn't scared to use it on glass.

I have heard sniffs that Dodo have a glass sealant on the way.
greenymk7
yeah i heard this aswell.

iv got rainX but only ever used it on the rear window, was contemplating trying it on all of them but not sure.

if there is no dodo within the next couple of months i might also have a look at the carlack 68 kit which people seem to find pretty gd.

i actually lime primed lited my windows the last full detail i did and it beaded massively but i didnt seal it with anything so it gone off abit now.

ps i frickin love the bubblegum from i4 :lol:

im just stocking up again on cyc atm but not sure on new products to try theres just soooooo many :lol: EDIT: iv just bought lots of chemical guys stuff as i havent used it for a while - watermelon air fresher, miracle dryer (test against my SN), Sasquatch maximus buffing towels and some speed wipe and streak free quickshine


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