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ChrisZetecS
[quote name='greenymk7' post='61173' date='Jan 22 2010, 01:07 PM']how was the nozel at the end?

mines on around 3mm wide and fully to the minus side, i often put a little more of the snow foam solution in as i have no chrome that it could damage.[/quote]

I tried it fully open at around 3mm wide, and then closed it slightly more, still no difference :unsure:

[quote name='aph1101' post='61207' date='Jan 22 2010, 05:25 PM']Did you use warm water to top up the solution??

I have the nozzle adjusted to half way between jet and spray and that seems to work fine for me...[/quote]

Yep luke-warm water, il have a fiddle again when its not raining see if I can get it to work properly. :)
greenymk7
which pressure washer have you got?

mite be to do with the pressure creating the foam
Jonny87
Thanks you all for your help.

Thing is about the wax, I have to park my car at the roadside some distance from my house (I have no driveway or garage), so pressure washers and standing in the road applying wax aren't really an option for me atm. Aside from that if I was to do a proper wax job I would want to do a quality job using some good products, but the funding isn't really available for that atm.

Of course I would like to protect the car as best I can. Question is what is the best aquawax/spraywax/liquidwax available?

I have heard that dodo red mist is ok, but some have said that duragloss aquawax is superior and works better on bare paint. Are there any others worth considering. I need something thats really quick and easy, preferably can be sprayed on to a wet car, and that wont cause problems getting it onto plastics and glass

What would you guys recommend?
ChrisZetecS
[quote name='greenymk7' post='61795' date='Jan 26 2010, 10:26 AM']which pressure washer have you got?

mite be to do with the pressure creating the foam[/quote]

Just a karcher k2.19 :unsure:
ChrisZetecS
[quote name='Jonny87' post='61798' date='Jan 26 2010, 11:01 AM']Of course I would like to protect the car as best I can. Question is what is the best aquawax/spraywax/liquidwax available?[/quote]

I use Autoglym aquawax when I need a quick wax job, like just now :lol: it goes on really well, easy and quick to apply etc, and I use it on my windows (except windscreen) and plastics aswell, and it dries without streaking on the car and windows. I think it's a good wax for the price and considering how convinient it is. :)

Oh the car doesnt have to be completely dry to apply it
Jonny87
[quote name='ChrisZetecS' post='61861' date='Jan 26 2010, 06:03 PM']I use Autoglym aquawax when I need a quick wax job, like just now :lol: it goes on really well, easy and quick to apply etc, and I use it on my windows (except windscreen) and plastics aswell, and it dries without streaking on the car and windows. I think it's a good wax for the price and considering how convinient it is. :)

Oh the car doesnt have to be completely dry to apply it[/quote]


Cheers Chris, I'll check it out :)

How do you use it? Do you just spray it on, leave it for a bit then wipe it off with some sort of twisted microfibre? Or is there more/less to it than that?


:)
ChrisZetecS
I just spray it on and buff it off straight away, try not to get any on your windscreen though it makes a right mess :( and i bought mine from halfords and it come with two microfibre cloths to use with the wax, and I think its the same if you buy it from anywhere else :)
DanGull
Chris - get the valve all the way open to + and set the nozzle to a fan spray - the nozzle is a key part of creating the foam. I used to have a 2.19 Karcher and it worked fine with my lance.

Jonny - I tried AG Aquawax a while back to see if it actually worked for me, I have to say it didn't (sorry Chris) it seemed more like a drying aid to me than a protective product. Duragloss Aquawax smells fantastic and holds up well whether over wax or just bare paint. Red Mist claims to do well on bare paint, but I think of Red Mist as being good at filling holes in existing protection. If I wanted quick, convenient protection - the Duragloss wins for me at present although I'm still trying things out.

Re glass - the Duragloss will send your glass milky but works every where else, so I usually apply everywhere and then cut through the milkyness on the glass with some Megs glass cleaner - careful not to get that on the paint of course because it will strip the wax off.
greenymk7
jonny if you want to look at cheaper solutions have a look at sealents instead.

much cheaper than wax's and help at this time of year ALOT. i no that finishkare 1000P is 17 but u get a huge tin for that.

also chamical guys do some good spray on sealents which help for quick washing
Gazjs
Planning on attacking the car tomoz with Tardis. do I need to dilute it?
Thanks
Strutter
Could someone please recommend a easy small kit I could put together (no big expense buying from the likes of Halfords etc), so when mine arrives I can spend the first day getting a layer of something on?

I don't have much time for this but would have the odd Sunday to put a good rub on rub off wax down on it.

Also, anytime I have detailed before with Waxes, I usually ended up getting some amount on the black trim and even when blackend it can still look a mess, is their some mythical trick to getting around this, or do I just have to take longer and be more careful?
aph1101
[quote name='Strutter' date='30 January 2010 - 07:39 PM' timestamp='1264879791' post='62548']
Could someone please recommend a easy small kit I could put together (no big expense buying from the likes of Halfords etc), so when mine arrives I can spend the first day getting a layer of something on?

I don't have much time for this but would have the odd Sunday to put a good rub on rub off wax down on it.

Also, anytime I have detailed before with Waxes, I usually ended up getting some amount on the black trim and even when blackend it can still look a mess, is their some mythical trick to getting around this, or do I just have to take longer and be more careful?
[/quote]


A good way to get wax residue off black plastics is, believe it or not, to rub some peanut butter on it and wipe it off with a tissue....Just be careful not to get any on your paint. :) Thanks to Dan for that tip ;)

For a small kit, I would suggest looking on I4D and using the FOC discount code (FOCX). If you have a flick through this thread from the beginning, you should get a good idea of a reasonable starters kit. Basics are wash mitt and good shampoo (born to be mild etc.), a drying towel and a good pot of wax. For around 30 you can get some dodo juice hard candy or other dodo wax which will last you for donkey's years :D Oh and you can never have enough microfibre cloths.
Gazjs
[quote name='Strutter' date='30 January 2010 - 07:39 PM' timestamp='1264879791' post='62548']
Could someone please recommend a easy small kit I could put together (no big expense buying from the likes of Halfords etc), so when mine arrives I can spend the first day getting a layer of something on?

I don't have much time for this but would have the odd Sunday to put a good rub on rub off wax down on it.

Also, anytime I have detailed before with Waxes, I usually ended up getting some amount on the black trim and even when blackend it can still look a mess, is their some mythical trick to getting around this, or do I just have to take longer and be more careful?
[/quote]

BEATEN TO IT BY aph1101 :lol:

As many people will say, the costs are endless in detailing, it would be good if you could put a figure on how much you are willing to spend.
Instead of Halfords you should have a look at

[url="http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/"]CYC[/url]Very good site witch sells some kits that are already made up.
[url="http://www.i4detailing.co.uk/"]I4Detailing[/url]- Discount using FOCX

The basics you will need:
Two buckets
A decent wash Mitt
A decent shampoo
Drying towel

As well as this you could top up you're kit with a decent Hard Wax, I personally use Dodo Hard Candy but it is a bit on the expensive side. The list could be endless.

The problems with over spray will not happen if you use a decent wax. Failing that mask off the trim. If ou have any of these marks you are finding hard to remove then DanGull kindly recommended using ground nutmeg oil - it works a treat :)
aph1101
[quote name='Gazjs' date='30 January 2010 - 07:52 PM' timestamp='1264880523' post='62551']
[b]BEATEN TO IT BY aph1101 :lol:[/b]
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Haha! I was just about to say that :)

We've all been taught well on here haven't we :P Good old Dan and his ground nut oil / peanut butter :lol:
Strutter
So their IS a mystical secret.....peanut butter, of all the bloddy things.

I did read over teh pages from the start and the Dojo Hard Wax get talked about alot, but I went to their website, as fun as it may look it has no practical use when trying to find out about their products, then theirs about 6 different type of waxes, wax treatments, and TBH, its really expensive stuff, then by the time you read this whole thread, that many products have been talked about, I ended up more confused, looked at the washing two buckets technice and the need for a Mit so those are a givin.
DanGull
If you want the bare minimum, and want to shop in Halfords, it's quite simple really -

Meguiars Wash Mitt
Meguiars Gold Class Shampoo or Hyperwash (neither are anywhere near as good as Dodo BTBM, but they're readily available)
Megs Drying Towel (again, there are far better towels, but we're talking Halfords here)
Autoglym Super Resin Polish
Autoglym High Defintion Wax

If you get it when the Halfords 3 for 2 is on (which is quite regularly) you'll see change from 50.

As for the regime with these products - two bucket wash with the shampoo and the mitt, dry with the towel, polish with the SRP and then you'll have a nice base for your High Def. If you also pick up some Autoglym Aquawax, you can then top up your wax over the next couple of washes (the wax should last around 3 months) and not have to reapply the more expensive High Def each time.

Halfords products wash regime - <Gordon Ramsay> DONE </Gordon Ramsay>
Strutter
Trust me I know that the Dodo stuff is obviously better, but I figure getting SOMETHING alittle done right is better than coming home with the new paintwork to nothing.

Anything for the alloys and blacks, im more worried about getting any of the AutoGlym stuff on any black surfaces, tho might pick up some peanut butter then!
Gazjs
[quote name='Strutter' date='31 January 2010 - 02:24 AM' timestamp='1264904097' post='62594']
Trust me I know that the Dodo stuff is obviously better, but I figure getting SOMETHING alittle done right is better than coming home with the new paintwork to nothing.

Anything for the alloys and blacks, im more worried about getting any of the AutoGlym stuff on any black surfaces, tho might pick up some peanut butter then!
[/quote]

Bilberrys wheel cleaner ;)
Michael P
After a month of country lanes and abuse, i finally cracked!!

[img]http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l49/shakkbucket/P1030405.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l49/shakkbucket/P1030407.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l49/shakkbucket/P1030406.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l49/shakkbucket/P1030408.jpg[/img]

Just a simple blast with the pressure washer, then BTBM on the body work and AG wheel cleaner and poorboys on the alloys, it's looking pretty much like it is in the dirty pictures now after just two days!!
Gazjs
Much better :P
I am beggining to enjoy letting my car get dirty now :blink: , just so i can get into it with the products :lol:
Michael P
[quote name='Gazjs' date='31 January 2010 - 10:26 PM' timestamp='1264976165' post='62770']
Much better :P
I am beggining to enjoy letting my car get dirty now :blink: , just so i can get into it with the products :lol:
[/quote]

I do and i don't; I like cleaning it up to a point, sometimes it gets a bit boring! But i hate it being dirty now, since seeing it in it's current state so clean it looks so much better and less skip-like (open to opinion!!) I think it will be my friday regime to clean it now, its lovely when it is!
Jonny87
Hi guys. I really appreciate the info that you guys have given out.

Later in the year I plan on buying some proper detailing gear. And I have a few more Q's

I know that you need to wipe off the wax some time after it has "hazed?" what should I use for this and how should i use it?

When layering wax I know that ideally you should wait 24 hours but its possible to layer after about half an hour - does either period have any major advantage? and can i use the same thing to wipe over after each haze, or should i use a new thing each time?

I noticed yesterday while I was topping up my washer bottle in a very brightly lit petrol station that my paint is swirled. How good is lime prime to remove swirls and how should I apply/use/remove this? (by hand as opposed to a machine polisher) is it just a case of slapping it on then wiping it around then washing it off?

In a moment of madness I may buy a kestral DA to use with the Lime prime - is it worth it?

Finally, what do you guys use to wash the sills/shuts etc and do you wax these areas?

Cheers Guys :)
Gazjs
[quote name='Jonny87' date='01 February 2010 - 03:31 PM' timestamp='1265037712' post='62844']
Hi guys. I really appreciate the info that you guys have given out.

Later in the year I plan on buying some proper detailing gear. And I have a few more Q's

[color="#FF0000"]I know that you need to wipe off the wax some time after it has "hazed?" what should I use for this and how should i use it?[/color]

When layering wax I know that ideally you should wait 24 hours but its possible to layer after about half an hour - does either period have any major advantage? [color="#008000"]and can i use the same thing to wipe over after each haze, or should i use a new thing each time?[/color]

I noticed yesterday while I was topping up my washer bottle in a very brightly lit petrol station that my paint is swirled. How good is lime prime to remove swirls and how should I apply/use/remove this? (by hand as opposed to a machine polisher) is it just a case of slapping it on then wiping it around then washing it off?

In a moment of madness I may buy a kestral DA to use with the Lime prime - is it worth it?

[color="#0000FF"]Finally, what do you guys use to wash the sills/shuts etc and do you wax these areas?[/color]

Cheers Guys :)
[/quote]

I can offer some help here Jonny but i am sure others may well have better ideas.

[color="#FF0000"]Microfibre cloths are very good for this. Its just a case of working across the surface to remove the haze.[/color]

[color="#008000"]I personally use the same microfibre, being sure however to use this cloth for working with wax only. eventually after a few usages i will give it a wash[/color]

I[color="#0000FF"] wax these areas yes. Usually wash with a wash mitt but on occasions will attack them with G101 an APC (be sure to wax after as this will affect the wax performance). This will help to rid of road grime etc. [/color]

As for the Kestral, i got one for Christmas but have yet to put it to use so i could not comment, but believe it will make swirl removal a lot easier
Jonny87
[quote name='Gazjs' date='01 February 2010 - 04:16 PM' timestamp='1265040392' post='62850']
I can offer some help here Jonny but i am sure others may well have better ideas.

[color="#FF0000"]Microfibre cloths are very good for this. Its just a case of working across the surface to remove the haze.[/color]

[color="#008000"]I personally use the same microfibre, being sure however to use this cloth for working with wax only. eventually after a few usages i will give it a wash[/color]

I[color="#0000FF"] wax these areas yes. Usually wash with a wash mitt but on occasions will attack them with G101 an APC (be sure to wax after as this will affect the wax performance). This will help to rid of road grime etc. [/color]

As for the Kestral, i got one for Christmas but have yet to put it to use so i could not comment, but believe it will make swirl removal a lot easier
[/quote]

Cheers for the info Gaz. I think I read somewhere that spraying some red mist over the haze before removing can help produce a good result (increased gloss, strength, lifespan, smoothness etc) does this sound right to you?
thesilverfox
[quote name='Jonny87' date='01 February 2010 - 05:06 PM' timestamp='1265043413' post='62858']
Cheers for the info Gaz. I think I read somewhere that spraying some red mist over the haze before removing can help produce a good result (increased gloss, strength, lifespan, smoothness etc) does this sound right to you?
[/quote]

Kestrel + Lime Prime/Lime Prime Lite = goodness. Get some decent pads and you're laughing to be honest - very difficult to get it wrong, unless you don't prepare the paintwork correctly with a damned good clay bar etc. Father and mother's cars have now had a number of hideous scratches polished out beautifully.
Jonny87
[quote name='thesilverfox' date='01 February 2010 - 06:11 PM' timestamp='1265047284' post='62870']
Kestrel + Lime Prime/Lime Prime Lite = goodness. Get some decent pads and you're laughing to be honest - very difficult to get it wrong, unless you don't prepare the paintwork correctly with a damned good clay bar etc. Father and mother's cars have now had a number of hideous scratches polished out beautifully.
[/quote]


Excellent. I may consider getting one in a few months to bring the paint back new. Car is only 8 months old so I dont want to start polishing off layers of lacquer yet. Once a year is maybe about the maximum I would consider.
thesilverfox
[quote name='Jonny87' date='01 February 2010 - 06:46 PM' timestamp='1265049392' post='62878']
Excellent. I may consider getting one in a few months to bring the paint back new. Car is only 8 months old so I dont want to start polishing off layers of lacquer yet. Once a year is maybe about the maximum I would consider.
[/quote]

Swirls already? Nuts. Once a year is all you would need. DA polishers are very forgiving if you pay attention to what you are doing. Pretty easy to get it right and not take too much off the painwork at all.

Make a few quid/favours on the side polishing for friends and family too :)
Strutter
[quote name='Gazjs' date='31 January 2010 - 05:37 PM' timestamp='1264958847' post='62662']
Bilberrys wheel cleaner ;)
[/quote]
Tah very much...so anything simple for the trim/ blacks?
Gazjs
Has anyone had any experience with a Dodo Juice Soft Touch Drying Towel?
jack
I have a few questions.
I managed to get outside yesterday, lime prime the car and give one coat of wax that I borrowed from a friend,NXT Generation Tech Wax 2.0.
I used a sponge to apply it and a microfibre to buff it.
What can I use besides a sponge to apply?
Can the microfibre cloth be washed?
Do I need to give it another layer of wax? If so is it just a wash and wax?
When do I need to remove the wax and how do I do that?
Thanks
greenymk7
I have a few questions.
I managed to get outside yesterday, lime prime the car and give one coat of wax that I borrowed from a friend,NXT Generation Tech Wax 2.0.
I used a sponge to apply it and a microfibre to buff it.
What can I use besides a sponge to apply? [color="#FF0000"]I use a sponge application pad which can be bought online or halfords[/color]
Can the microfibre cloth be washed? [color="#FF0000"]Yes it can, don't put any fabric softener in though[/color]
Do I need to give it another layer of wax? If so is it just a wash and wax? [color="#FF0000"]Ideally you want to put a couple of layers of wax on with no wash in between, i would leave it till the spring to do that now[/color]
When do I need to remove the wax and how do I do that? [color="#FF0000"]Lime Prime will remove any previous wax or you can get a pre wash like megs APC or surfex HD[/color]
Thanks
greenymk7
[quote name='Gazjs' date='09 February 2010 - 10:50 PM' timestamp='1265755221' post='64340']
Has anyone had any experience with a Dodo Juice Soft Touch Drying Towel?
[/quote]

yes it is very good but not as good as the supernatural or the chemical guys towel, it is also a bit smaller
jack
Thanks Greeny. I'll leave it a couple of months and start again. I was at it for over 4 hours yesterday (Oh Err)and didn't even get to the wheels or inside of it.
Gazjs
Thanks Greeny,
Placed this order today along with a few things to try.
Dodo Juice Supernatural Finger Mitt Wax Applicator
Dodo Juice Fantastic Fur Microfibre Buffing Cloth
Gazjs
Stuff arrived today :D
Is it correct that i should give the towels a quick hand wash with Woolite or such to remove loose fibres before i use?
DanGull
I never have Gaz - and I've never had a Dodo MF or drying towel drop anything on the car. As little washing as possible I would say.
Gazjs
Thanks Dan,
Cant believe the difference in quality of the Dodo MF compared to the others i use.
Gazjs
Got the wheels all cleaned and sealed yesterday, took a picture of the resulting beading today along with a few sneaky bits of crap :lol:
[img]http://i661.photobucket.com/albums/uu340/Gazjs/Photo028.jpg[/img]
Flic
Wow! They look amazing! Never really understood why people took their wheels off and cleaned them, now I know.
Gazjs
Thanks Flic :D
pouly
[quote name='Gazjs' date='22 February 2010 - 12:18 AM' timestamp='1266797297' post='66364']
Thanks Flic [img]http://www.fordownersclub.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif[/img]
[/quote]


hi
wheels look great what product did you use please regards paul
Gazjs
[quote name='pouly' date='22 February 2010 - 12:02 PM' timestamp='1266839527' post='66419']
hi
wheels look great what product did you use please regards paul
[/quote]

Pouly
I removed wheels from car.
I cleaned wheels with Bilberrys diluted 5 parts water to 1 part product.
Rinsed off the cleaner and noticed a few tar spots.
Attempted to remove these with clay.
The tar that refused to move with clay was tackled with Tardis. (Wheels had been dried at this point for Tardis to have full affect)
Wheels were rinsed to remove all Tardis and then dried.
Applied a think layer of Poorboys Wheel Sealant and left to cure for 20-30 minutes.
Buffed off and repated for another layer.
Before i placed wheels back on i put a few thin layers of endurance tyre gel.
pouly
[quote name='Gazjs' date='22 February 2010 - 12:40 PM' timestamp='1266841812' post='66428']
Pouly
I removed wheels from car.
I cleaned wheels with Bilberrys diluted 5 parts water to 1 part product.
Rinsed off the cleaner and noticed a few tar spots.
Attempted to remove these with clay.
The tar that refused to move with clay was tackled with Tardis. (Wheels had been dried at this point for Tardis to have full affect)
Wheels were rinsed to remove all Tardis and then dried.
Applied a think layer of Poorboys Wheel Sealant and left to cure for 20-30 minutes.
Buffed off and repated for another layer.
Before i placed wheels back on i put a few thin layers of endurance tyre gel.
[/quote]



cheers

will order stuff and hopefully a job to be done weekend cheers paul
Graeme Smurf
anyone know where I can get my hands on a ZS rear spoiler?

Thanks :)
Michael P
[quote name='Graeme Smurf' date='22 February 2010 - 10:06 PM' timestamp='1266875764' post='66516']
anyone know where I can get my hands on a ZS rear spoiler?

Thanks :)
[/quote]

Best place to source one would probably be eBay or scrapyards dealing in newer cars, although that will probably take a long time to find.

Failing that, bite the bullet and go to Ford. you'll pay a premium but you know you'll be getting the exact thing you want
WelshAde
One for dan gull maybe, ive been using aquawax and its about to finish, fancy a change , try something different but simular, whats dodo juice red mist like? better? i know you couldnt use it but is it ok?
DanGull
Hi Ade - give this a go...

[url="http://www.seriousperformance.co.uk/Products,78,toView_772.html"]Serious Performance QD[/url]

I prefer Aquawax, but this is a close second if you fancy a change.

Red Mist is very good - as you know I can't use it myself - many swear by it including greenymk7, for me it just doesn't seem to lay down a 'layer' of something as such - unlike other detailing sprays.

Actually - Serious Performance have gone a step further and produced this which I've only just now seen...

[url="http://www.seriousperformance.co.uk/Products,51,toView_813.html"]Spray Wax[/url]

All of the products I've used to date from them are great, so I will definitely be trying this one.
Michael P
I tried Red Mist for the first time a couple of weeks ago, absolutely brilliant stuff
DanGull
Indeed you did Mike - to be totally accurate you tried MY Red Mist a couple of weeks ago. :lol:
Michael P
Ok, DANS red mist was good!! I still have another coat in the bottle Dan, lasting me well! I may use it for Sunday morning...


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