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Strutter
So I can give it a quick once over the some of the gold two bucket approach and then wax would still retain itself? I can't help but think I'm washing the wax off!
aph1101
Yep... that'll be absolutely fine. A good shampoo such as gold (with a 2BM wash) will maintain your wax layer.
Strutter
Does 2bm mean two bucket mitt lol, cause ya I got a micro fibre mitt, have to say spending the money to apply and take off with all the microfibre cloths sponges etc makes a huge difference! Being a White car tho I couldn't tell where the wax went on! And the HD stuff was a real work to rub off again, good to know the elbow grease means it's easier to clean up again!
aph1101
2BM stands for 2 bucket method. A MF mitt is a good way of doing it.

If you want to be able to see your wax when you apply it, and also a wax which comes off more easily, you may want to consider a colour charged wax such as Dodo Juice Purple Haze. [b]DanGull[/b] is your man when it comes to waxes, ask him if you want to know more about colour charged waxes :)
Michael P
Only talk to DanGull if you're prepared to spend ALOT of money. However much you want to budget, you will spend at least double without fail.

Car detaling is like an ex-wife, it demands more money as time goes on
DanGull
I'm not that bad :lol:

Autoglym High Def is a nice product - I'd say stick with it. If your wax is hard to take off, it's on too thick. You can help the problem by using a pre wax cleanser such as Dodo Lime Prime - but thin layers will help you more. One swipe of the applicator over the pot should easily cover the whole bonnet, possible the whole front of car.

That being said, I do indeed use colour charged waxes to help me see where I'm waxing - Dodo Purple Haze is weapon of choice at present.
Michael P
[quote name='DanGull' date='27 March 2010 - 03:08 PM' timestamp='1269701924' post='74362']
I'm not that bad :lol:
[/quote]

Tell my why i'm spending a further 50 next payday on cleaning stuff!!

I never knew all this stuff existed before! :lol:
Strutter
Great stuff, wiped it down easy, the shine came back from drying it quickly with a drying towel! Still looking goos and seems to still be well protected! However the thing that's only not really well protected are the alloys, I have spray on cleaners, but really what should I use to protect them? Couldn't find anything in hlafords.
Gazjs
[quote name='Strutter' date='31 March 2010 - 02:03 AM' timestamp='1269996826' post='75138']
Great stuff, wiped it down easy, the shine came back from drying it quickly with a drying towel! Still looking goos and seems to still be well protected! However the thing that's only not really well protected are the alloys, I have spray on cleaners, but really what should I use to protect them? Couldn't find anything in hlafords.
[/quote]
[url="http://www.theultimatefinish.co.uk/poorboys/wheel-sealant.aspx"]Wheel Sealant [/url]
This is very good stuff for your wheels, and will last you a while :)
aph1101
Afternoon everyone....

A little self indulgence, if I may. :P I've just spent the day detailing the fiesta, and I'm rather pleased with the results.

For those who are interested, the sequence is as follows:

Bilberry wheel cleaner, snow foam, 2BM wash with dodo BTBM, I4D clay with dodo born slippy lube, foam, dry wih I4D blue towel and MFs, dodo hard candy wax, dodo red mist, I4D tyre gloss (brilliant stuff) and that is all.

Piccies: :D

[IMG]http://i652.photobucket.com/albums/uu243/aph1101/2010%20Detail/IMG_3935.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i652.photobucket.com/albums/uu243/aph1101/2010%20Detail/IMG_3938.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i652.photobucket.com/albums/uu243/aph1101/2010%20Detail/IMG_3939.jpg[/IMG]
Michael P
Boo hiss you and others who can drive any distance after cleaning your car without getting it dirty!!!!
aph1101
Those last 2 pics are about 8 miles from my house down some country roads.... no mud anywhere to be seen :D
Michael P
:( boo hiss. Mine has mud splattered up it all over again, booo. Wheels are clean though!!
Maffoo
Spent a good few hours doing my first clean today :) Exhausted now...

Shame the sun had gone in by the time I'd finished :( So the photos were crap and were from my iPhone...

[img]http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs421.snc3/24317_502416553763_272200002_11618_4142798_n.jpg[/img]
Gazjs
Both Looking really good :D
Michael P
My car is filthy once again, but i'm glad i've managed to detail it so i can just give it a quick once over later in the week :)
parv1
After reading 41 pages of how and why I should detail my new fiesta, i think i'm getting anal about my car :lol:

I rinsed off the car yesterday (didn't wash it) just rinsed and decided to clean my wheels to get rid of the brake dust.

It took me 2 HOURS!!! just to do the wheels!!! and that was just washing them.

So now i've made a list of what I think I should be buying;

Meguiars wash mitt lambswool

Dodo juice born to be mild shampoo

Bilt Hamber Auto Clay

Autoglym Super Resin Polish

Autoglym HD wax

Poorboys wheel sealent

dodo super natural drying towel

Dodo Juice Red mist or Duragloss Aquawax



Is this list good enough or have I missed something out?

I plan to wash the car once every 2 weeks or so.....
DanGull
Forget the PB wheel sealant - get a tub of Finish Kare 1000p instead. Does a better job on wheels, costs only a little bit more but can be used on the whole car in the winter leaving your high def for the summer months.

Some Mk7 owners have also had trouble with the PBs yellowing their wheels.

I also recommend the microfibre Megs mitt over the lambswool one - these tend to deteriorate quite quickly.

While I love the Supernatural drying towels, I wouldn't want one as my only towel. Get a Sonus wonder towel or a couple I4D's own brand towels.

Other than that, good list. Duragloss Aquawax all the way, much better for me than Red Mist.

Don't forget you get a 7.5% discount at I4D with discount code FOCX :)
Michael P
Right, whilst you're hear dan!!

When i was putting red mist on the MX-5 after waxing it, it was really smeary and make the bit i sprayed look awful.

Any reason why ??
parv1
Thanks for the advice. So here is my revised list;

Meguiars microfibre wash mitt

Dodo juice born to be mild shampoo

Bilt Hamber Auto Clay

Autoglym Super Resin Polish

Autoglym HD wax

Finish Kare 1000p for wheels

dodo super natural drying towel/sonus wonder towel or i4d own brand (whichever is cheaper)

Duragloss Aquawax


Once I get it all, i'll be back to ask how to use it all, lol :-)
aph1101
[quote name='parv1' date='04 April 2010 - 01:46 PM' timestamp='1270384580' post='76014']
Thanks for the advice. So here is my revised list;

Meguiars microfibre wash mitt

Dodo juice born to be mild shampoo

[b]Bilt Hamber Auto Clay[/b]

Autoglym Super Resin Polish

Autoglym HD wax

Finish Kare 1000p for wheels

dodo super natural drying towel/sonus wonder towel or i4d own brand (whichever is cheaper)

Duragloss Aquawax


Once I get it all, i'll be back to ask how to use it all, lol :-)
[/quote]

Good list, but if you're getting clay, you'll need some kind of lube. I recently got some dodo born slippy concentrate and diluted it myself into an atomiza bottle with a chemical resistant sprayer head from I4D. I used the lube for the first time yesterday and it was brilliant. If you dilute it yourself, it lasts much longer and is an aweful lot cheaper aswell. :D

Mike, my only guess is that you would be using to much of the stuff and/or leaving it on for too long. I would probably do 3-5 spritzes for the whole bonnet and wipe it off straight away.
Michael P
[quote name='aph1101' date='04 April 2010 - 01:59 PM' timestamp='1270385345' post='76016']


Mike, my only guess is that you would be using to much of the stuff and/or leaving it on for too long. I would probably do 3-5 spritzes for the whole bonnet and wipe it off straight away.
[/quote]

Wicked, cheers matey
Strutter
Any good shops for the Finish Kare 1000p to pick up from, im crap with searching on google and so far the shops recommended here have been good.

Think Ill have to pick up a larger better drying towel after trying the Mequires one, it was ok but theirs just to much water left n the roof for it to soak all of it up on its own.

Alos do you guys just take the wheels off to give them the proper clean?, I cant remember the last time I lifted a wheel off and dont think I even have a jack to do this!
DanGull
[url="http://www.seriousperformance.co.uk/News.html"]Serious Performance[/url]

That's where I get my FK1000P from (and a few other bits).

I do take my wheels off - but I wouldn't if I didn't have a decent torque wrench and trolley jack...

The bigger the better when it comes to drying towels.
Gazjs
[quote name='aph1101' date='04 April 2010 - 01:59 PM' timestamp='1270385345' post='76016']
Good list, but if you're getting clay, [b]you'll need some kind of lube.[/b] I recently got some dodo born slippy concentrate and diluted it myself into an atomiza bottle with a chemical resistant sprayer head from I4D. I used the lube for the first time yesterday and it was brilliant. If you dilute it yourself, it lasts much longer and is an aweful lot cheaper aswell. :D

Mike, my only guess is that you would be using to much of the stuff and/or leaving it on for too long. I would probably do 3-5 spritzes for the whole bonnet and wipe it off straight away.
[/quote]
Of one the BH works with only tap water
parv1
[quote name='Gazjs' date='04 April 2010 - 07:43 PM' timestamp='1270409595' post='76107']
Of one the BH works with only tap water
[/quote]


having to use water as the lube was the main reason I chose Bilt Hamber. please dont tell me i've got it wrong!!
Gazjs
[quote name='parv1' date='05 April 2010 - 02:37 AM' timestamp='1270430833' post='76151']
having to use water as the lube was the main reason I chose Bilt Hamber. please dont tell me i've got it wrong!!
[/quote]
You've not ;)
Just some people would want to use a Lube regardless, you are correct though :D
Strutter
[quote name='DanGull' date='04 April 2010 - 03:53 PM' timestamp='1270395829' post='76056']
[url="http://www.seriousperformance.co.uk/News.html"]Serious Performance[/url]

That's where I get my FK1000P from (and a few other bits).

I do take my wheels off - but I wouldn't if I didn't have a decent torque wrench and trolley jack...

The bigger the better when it comes to drying towels.
[/quote]
Thanks again for that, this is strangely getting addictive :huh:
parv1
One thing i missed off my list.....

What shall i use to clean the glass.

on the outside, i used to used Halfords Rain Repellant. Was very good and the drops just ran off the glass, but it was hard
to rub off once it was dry and gave a bit of lighting smears at night until after a few weeks.

Recommendations?? B)
parv1
Hi

I am nearly abt to order my washing kit but then had a thought abt a pre rinser kinda thing.

I dont have a pressure washer so snow foam is not a viable option at the moment. I was thinking abt some kind of spray
i could put on the dirtyest parts of the car, ie, mainly below door sills, let it sit for a little while then rinse it off
before giving it a mitt wash with BTBM.

I've come across a citrus wash, any good?
I can put the citrus wash in a hand pump bottle and just dilute it then spray it around the required parts.

What do you guys think? Good idea or am i just wasting my time and should just rinse with hose pipe and go straight
with BTBM
MARK WITH A VANNY
Hi all

I would like a bit of advise as to what to buy for just giving the car a good quickish wash.

Should I add/remove anything from the following and which brands will do a good job

2 Buckets
Shampoo
Wash Mitt
Drying Blade
Drying Towel
Wheel Cleaner
Quick Wax / Polish
Glass Spray

Cheers
aph1101
[quote name='MARK WITH A VANNY' date='07 April 2010 - 08:14 PM' timestamp='1270667054' post='76683']
Hi all

I would like a bit of advise as to what to buy for just giving the car a good quickish wash.

Should I add/remove anything from the following and which brands will do a good job

2 Buckets
Shampoo
Wash Mitt
Drying Blade
Drying Towel
Wheel Cleaner
Quick Wax / Polish
Glass Spray

Cheers
[/quote]

Hello and welcome :D


[b]2 Buckets[/b] - good
[b]Shampoo[/b] - dodo juice born to be mild is my shampoo of choice
[b]Wash Mitt[/b] - good... down to choice really, MF, lambswool etc.
[b]Drying Blade[/b] - Remove!! That'll scratch your paint to bits. It'll drag all kinds of crap across the paint.
[b]Drying Towel[/b] - brilliant. Buy one or two nice big MF ones from i4detailing.com
[b]Wheel Cleaner[/b] - Valet Pro Bilberry is brilliant. If you decide not to use this, make sure whatever you choose is acid free.
[b]Quick Wax / Polish[/b] - Some variety of sealant would do. It would be best to get some wax (dodo hard candy or the like) but if money or time is a constraint, something like dodo juice red mist would do. Step away from the polish unless you need to correct your paint. Polish contains abrasives and you shouldn't really need to use it unless you are removing specific scratches/swirl marks
[b]Glass Spray[/b] - I don't use a glass spray myself but people seem to like AG Fast Glass.

Hope that helps and feel free to ask any other questions :D
Gazjs
[quote name='MARK WITH A VANNY' date='07 April 2010 - 08:14 PM' timestamp='1270667054' post='76683']
Hi all

I would like a bit of advise as to what to buy for just giving the car a good quickish wash.

Should I add/remove anything from the following and which brands will do a good job

2 Buckets [b]- Correct, any buckets will do, could go with 3 to include a "Wheels" bucket.[/b]
Shampoo [b]- Everyone likes different kinds, personally 3M car wash soap, Zymol Auto Wash[/b]
Wash Mitt [b]- Meguiars Microfibre, lambswool "rot" [/b]
Drying Blade [b]- Good if only for glass!![/b]
Drying Towel [b]- Must have - i use a small one as it keeps it dragging on the ground - Dodo Soft Touch [/b]
Wheel Cleaner [b]- Bilberrys[/b]
Quick Wax / Polish [b]- Autoglymm Super Reisn Polish - Duragloss AquaWax[/b]
Glass Spray [b]- Meguiars Next Gen Glass Cleaner, Autoglymm Fast Glass, Glass Polish.[/b]

Cheers
[/quote]
MARK WITH A VANNY
[quote name='aph1101' date='07 April 2010 - 08:02 PM' timestamp='1270669952' post='76696']
Hello and welcome :D


[b]2 Buckets[/b] - good
[b]Shampoo[/b] - dodo juice born to be mild is my shampoo of choice
[b]Wash Mitt[/b] - good... down to choice really, MF, lambswool etc.
[b]Drying Blade[/b] - Remove!! That'll scratch your paint to bits. It'll drag all kinds of crap across the paint.
[b]Drying Towel[/b] - brilliant. Buy one or two nice big MF ones from i4detailing.com
[b]Wheel Cleaner[/b] - Valet Pro Bilberry is brilliant. If you decide not to use this, make sure whatever you choose is acid free.
[b]Quick Wax / Polish[/b] - Some variety of sealant would do. It would be best to get some wax (dodo hard candy or the like) but if money or time is a constraint, something like dodo juice red mist would do. Step away from the polish unless you need to correct your paint. Polish contains abrasives and you shouldn't really need to use it unless you are removing specific scratches/swirl marks
[b]Glass Spray[/b] - I don't use a glass spray myself but people seem to like AG Fast Glass.

Hope that helps and feel free to ask any other questions :D
[/quote]


Thanks for that.
I've brought a Meguires microfible wash mitt and a bug remover sponge yesterday from Halfords. Also brought the drying blade but will now take that back.
I will look into the shampoo, towel, wheel cleaner and wax that you mentioned.

MARK
MARK WITH A VANNY
Thanks Gaz

Good point about using a smaller towel for the bottom half of the car.
parv1
[quote name='parv1' date='06 April 2010 - 06:10 PM' timestamp='1270576821' post='76470']
Hi

I am nearly abt to order my washing kit but then had a thought abt a pre rinser kinda thing.

I dont have a pressure washer so snow foam is not a viable option at the moment. I was thinking abt some kind of spray
i could put on the dirtyest parts of the car, ie, mainly below door sills, let it sit for a little while then rinse it off
before giving it a mitt wash with BTBM.

I've come across a citrus wash, any good?
I can put the citrus wash in a hand pump bottle and just dilute it then spray it around the required parts.

What do you guys think? Good idea or am i just wasting my time and should just rinse with hose pipe and go straight
with BTBM
[/quote]



Any ideas guys on a pre rinser or just wash with BTBM?
Gazjs
I have never really used a pre-wash aid. What I tend to do it just run some soapy water through the pressure washer and let this sit on the car for a while before rinsing it off and continuing with my normal wash. This is pretty infective though so just bash on without it. Someone may have tried the citrus wash before but I wouldn't want to say anything on it having not tried it.
parv1
[quote name='Gazjs' date='08 April 2010 - 06:41 PM' timestamp='1270751474' post='76917']
I have never really used a pre-wash aid. What I tend to do it just run some soapy water through the pressure washer and let this sit on the car for a while before rinsing it off and continuing with my normal wash. This is pretty infective though so just bash on without it. Someone may have tried the citrus wash before but I wouldn't want to say anything on it having not tried it.
[/quote]


Thanks for the input. Right, time to order my goodies :D
DanGull
Prewash is essential as far as I'm concerned - citrus prewash products are very good but tend to not be safe to use with wax. As a result, I only use citrus-based washes when I'm stripping back for a full protection detail. For top up washes, if I didn't have a pressure washer and therefore snow foam I'd go straight in with the bucket wash.
Gazjs
I cant bring myself to fork out for snowfoam as I have read so many times that its pretty useless.
What's everyone's opinions?
DanGull
It's not useless - people tend to expect the wrong thing from it. They expect to foam their car and all the dirt to instantly fall off with nothing else afterwards.

It's a prewash - just like you would soak dishes or clothes to loosen tough grime, if you do the same on the car it makes the bucket wash much much easier and means it requires far less pressure. It does also shift the worst of the grime, meaning that there is less muck being dragged around the car by the wash mitts later. Snow foam doesn't shift much on it's own, and it's not supposed to.

It's also great fun :D
Gazjs
May save up the pennies. Is it monoblock safe?
mikester
i foam everytime. it is as dan says an aid, nothing else. you shouldn't expect your car to be clean and shiny after. howeveryo can expect whatever dirt is present to be loosened off a hell of a lot.



i am terrible for 'wasting' water however, and if/when there's a hosepipe ban again, i'm screwed... i'll foam leave on for 3/4 mons then spend an age ging round the car blasting all the grime off (from a sensible distance of course) so when i finally put mitt to metal here is virtually no dirt on the car.. only the tar and stubbon much that i couldn't blast off.



i still maintain that snow foam then jet takes off more dirt than just jet before a wash. and thats from my pre-foam days, i have officially been converted.


intrestingly the mix of the foam does make a difference to the viscocity of the settling foam on the car, i tend to add a few suirts of maxi-suds ii, use almost boiling water (as it mixs with the cold tap water to produce a warm-hot foam... works better than cold foam) and about 15-20% snowfoam of the total mix is snowfoam. this gives me a really thick foam, that sticks to the paint rather than falling off, even with wax on.


using karcher prssure washer setup and a karcher fitment gilmour lance with pH neutral valet:pro foam.

[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/wellyz/ST%20project/Image342.jpg[/IMG]


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and a vid for you: (didn't quite have the mixture right here, took a few weeks of experimenting)

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parv1
So today, i finally managed to wash my car for the first time after buying it.
As I dont have the products I want (still on order) i used what i have at home.

Here is what i did;

Rinsed with hose pipe (no jet wash available)
Washed car with warm water and Turtlewax TripleWas Shampoo
Rinsed car off again
Washed again with the same Triplewax
Washed wheels
Used Autoglym Chamois on body (car body, not mine!!)
Used Autoglym SRP
buffed it off by hand
Cleaned glass with household glass cleaner
Put halfords rain repellent on outside of windscreen and other windows
Put on Autoglym Extra deep gloss
again, buffed off by hand

And that was it, not a lot, but it took me 8 hours to do it all.

What shall i change in this routine according to the duration between washes or polishing?
Jason Tierney
Well I gave the Old fiesta a little going over with some products I already had. Il probs buy alot more after reading most of this thread(the rest is tonights entertainment!) to look after my mk7 ZS.

SO,

I rinsed the car all over with hose pipe(dont have a pressure washer...yet..)
Did Wheels with some gerenic alloy cleaner and washed off
2 bucket method
Shampooed car with AG Bodywork Shampoo/conditioner with a meg's Washmitt
Dryed with a large towel(I dont have a car specific one, was this ok?)
Once dry put AG SRP on the car, buffed off with microfiber cloth(Megs one)
Cleaned glass with AG Car Glass Polish

I bought some AG HD Wax for my new car, but figured, I may as well give the old one a good coat, so, after dinner when its cooler im goin to do this.

Any tips on best way.

Any3way, So far, The result.

[IMG]http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww104/mongoosetierney/My%20Fiesta/110420101570.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww104/mongoosetierney/My%20Fiesta/110420101567.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww104/mongoosetierney/My%20Fiesta/110420101572.jpg[/IMG]

Took some before and after pics of doors , for reflections etc

Before

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[IMG]http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww104/mongoosetierney/My%20Fiesta/110420101563.jpg[/IMG]

After
[IMG]http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww104/mongoosetierney/My%20Fiesta/110420101569.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww104/mongoosetierney/My%20Fiesta/110420101565.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww104/mongoosetierney/My%20Fiesta/110420101566.jpg[/IMG]

Not too bad I dont think really.
Jason Tierney
Also, Before I use the wax.

How little Wax should I use. I will be using the applicator pad/s contained with the AG HD Wax

Is easiest thing to do rub the corner of the sponge applicator right round the tub? il just have wax on the edge of the applicators then.
DanGull
Less is more - thin layers are best. AG High Def is a good hard wax - a single swipe of the applicator over the pot should cover a bonnet sized area.

If it's too thick, it won't cure well and will be in turn difficult to remove. You shouldn't be able to see much of anythingon a white/silver car, just trust that it's there. You need to recharge only when the pad 'drags' rather than glides over the paint.
Strutter
[quote name='DanGull' date='04 April 2010 - 03:53 PM' timestamp='1270395829' post='76056']
[url="http://www.seriousperformance.co.uk/News.html"]Serious Performance[/url]

[b]That's where I get my FK1000P from (and a few other bits).[/b]

I do take my wheels off - but I wouldn't if I didn't have a decent torque wrench and trolley jack...

The bigger the better when it comes to drying towels.
[/quote]
Hi Dan, do you have a direct link, cant find the 1000p in their wheel section and nothig is found under a search.
DanGull
[url="http://www.seriousperformance.co.uk/Products,52,toView_402.html"]Here[/url]

Google is your friend... B)
Strutter
Good ole google, seems odd I cant find it on their website tho :unsure:

Ordered it with Serious Performance Uber Premium Drying & Detailing MF Towel to be used as an extra towel and Duragloss Wax Eraser, not sure what its like but ive a couple of smeers around the plastics which are getting to me now, so hoping this sorts them.

This could be a day alone on the alloys as I have no way of removing them!

I assume, or hope rather, that the 1000p is good enough against the brake dust, does it last as good as a wax on the body, in that for a few months after its easy to lean them off?


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