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Hi guys and girls, after seing an old friend from high school today on my travels he has just bought a mk3 focus zetec-s 1.8 tdci. He let me take it round the cark park for a quick spin and vice versa with my mk1 and im not just being sour about his brand new shiny ford and me with my 5yr old one :( i found his mk3 not as much fun to drive. It still had all the feel of a focus but it didnt seem as eager to want to be thrown about as much and im worried that the focus has lost some of its soul for the sake of a smoother ride and drive. Was just wondering how many of you guys have had a mk1 and then bought a mk2 and felt the same or even with a mk3.

Mike
artscot79
the mk1 is officially the car of the decade so that says it all ive found the mk3 etc to be more how it looks than how the car drives i dont like them ive tried them but they feel like they have lost summat im not being byased but the mk1 is the best in fact its as good as my old passat which when new was 8 grand more than the focus was and in some areas its even better.

the passat focused on smooth soft ride comfy and relaxed but it had no feel to it no fun it didnt like being chucked around even with the standard stiffer springs and was a bit dull it had lots of toys on it abs electric everything etc but it was bland the focus can still bring a smile to my face it handles far better so what that its not softly sprung with the sports suspension and some roads can be a bit bumpy you turn the wheel it goes exactly where you want it i know what i think so what i dont have elec back windows or aircon to be honest aircon was a pain and bloody expensive to fix my mirrors dont demist themself and arent electric doesnt matter i want a car not an electric filled box of a thousand sensors that end up costing the earth to fix and replace the more crap thats in them the more to go wrong the more it will cost.

the best cars ive had are the ones that didnt have all the junk a 1995 hyundai accent lsi 1.3 it rarely needed a thing 1 new battery and tyres etc i sold it with 98k on the clock and the engine was as sweet as a nut started first time everytime had surprisingly good handling and just went on with no grumbles and a punto1.2 the mk1 which until someone rear ended it had done 85k with no grumbles and no expensive repairs i got rid of the passat and got the focus and i wont have another vw again out of them all and all the other cars ive driven mk1 wins the first is always the best
ford focus edge
Tottally agree my focus has the sportier set up and personally i dont think the rides even bad the 1.6 engine in mines done nearly 50k and its smooth as a nut not one problem with her yet touch wood. Although mine is loaded with eletrics like quickclear heated front screen, heated mirrors, a/c etc etc...

This is my 1st car and if im honest i dont want it to ever die i just wish it had more power thats my only real complaint about the focus even the 2.0's arent that fast there mint to drive just crap in a straight line.

I think that the newer cars are to safe and lack the enthuasim of the slightley older stuff the mk1 focus isnt exactly a dinosaur in the car world but for my next car to top my little blue focus it's gonna have to be something special. Or another focus :P

Mike
hillmangimp
I agree that the Mark 1 was a better car to drive than my current 2.0 TDCI. We had a mark 1 1.6 zetec at work as a pool car and I found it very chuckable and thought it had very good handling. The mark 2 Focus is a more grown up car and one area where it improves significantly over the mark 1 is interior quality. I thought the interior of the mark 1 looked cheap compared to rivals such as the Golf, but in the mark 2 it is much closer to the Golf (if not quite matching it yet). The later Focus in my opinion sacrificed some of its dynamism for a better all round package which I think Ford had to do-The Mark 1 was so far ahead of its rivals in terms of driver appeal that Ford could afford to sacrifice some of that to allow it to catch its rivals in other areas.
artscot79
personally the interior has never bothered me its better than some and to be honest doesnt feel that cheap to me my passats interior wasnt far off vw interiors look good but get in there and its a different ballgame thay are just cheap units with slightly better quality fabric i can assure anyone vws are not as well built and reliable as a lot of people think i got mine with a full dealer service history fully serviced every 10k in the year i had it i replaced the timing belt and tensioner whole front end has to come off for that/ i replaced the maf /drivers side abs sensor/ both cv joints/ rear wheel bearings/ rear brake flexi hose/ front hub/ clear the pollen filter and drain holes every month as they fill up and water goes into the front pass side and destroys the convenience unit that controls alarm windows etc/ a new key fob and key at 157/ a new aircon compressor various relays then the timing chain started to rattle a bit the dash looks good on the vw but pop out anything and its just nasty the trim only covers what you see remove anything and theres badly cut fabric with big gaps the engine design is useless as the whole buper headlights front grill arch liners have to come out just to get it into a service position for the timing belt then you have another half dozen bolts uncliop wiring etc to pull it far enough forward to get room to work crap design crap road holding the only good golf was the mk1 the rest were just pretenders that just never had the impact design looks or feel and fords are generally the same thares only so much you can improve before you have to start with a whole new car design the hyundai was the same the original was a better car then the newer version they brought out fair enough it had more goodies and looked smarter but beneath the skin it was ugly unreliable and the car shook at the mere thought of throwing it into a corner the original was an ugly looker but a gem underneath
ford focus edge
The interior in the mk1 i find perfectaly ok nout wrong with it nout to shout about, the design of it i acctually quite like much better than these slabs of silver n black you get in the newer stuff. I also love the looks of the mk1 but must admit i prefer the new "kenetic" design the new fords have basically i want the body of a newer ford with the drive and mechanics of the older fords if that makes any sence lol

Mike
catch
[quote name='ford focus edge' post='56475' date='Dec 23 2009, 08:38 PM']The interior in the mk1 i find perfectaly ok nout wrong with it nout to shout about, the design of it i acctually quite like much better than these slabs of silver n black you get in the newer stuff. I also love the looks of the mk1 but must admit i prefer the new "kenetic" design the new fords have basically i want the body of a newer ford with the drive and mechanics of the older fords if that makes any sence lol

Mike[/quote]

I have had all sorts of cars in my 46 years of driving. But when I bought a six year old 99 plate mk1 Focus 1.8 Zetec, I realised it was the best drive I had ever had. I ran it for three months short of four years, and apart from tyres and servicing, all it cost me was one rear wheel bearing [50 including fitting, a bargain] OK in year nine of its life it started to bubble a bit at the apex of one of the rear wheel arches. But hell considering it's a Ford, I thought I could not complain really. When I bought it, it was to replace a ten year old Mondeo that I had had for nine years. The Mondeo, again cost me now't bar servicing and tyres in nine years of ownership. But the clutch went at 75K, and as the door skins where parting company with the door frames. I just got the AA [I had the recovery option] take me and the car to my local scrap yard, then he ran me home.

Anyway mk1 Focus in year nine, at 79k clutch was slipping, Wife said sell it pointing to the 10cm diameter bubble on the wheel arch. No way said I, years of life left in the old girl yet. So new clutch, front discs and pads fitted 400, and she was quick and sharp in the corners once again, The ten days latter [ 30th Dec 2008] a prat crossers to the wife's side of the road and writes it off in a head on collision.

Anyway, wife then insists we get a Volvo S40 2.0D SE, me still wanting another Focus, but that said a great car packed with safety features and fast. Built on the mk2 Focus platform., but nowhere near as nice to drive as the mk1 Focus. How can I put it, the feed back from the mk1 Focus as to what it is doing is superb. You could chuck it into corners and it stuck to the road like sh@t sticks to a blanket, no traction control or anything like that on it, not even ABS.

Anyway nine months later we are back in a Focus mk2 [wife's nagging me] because the Focus was so easy to drive, she somehow felt intimidated by the size and the power of the turbo diesel S40 [women what are they like]

But getting back to the original thread opener observations, I personally find the 55 plate mk2 Focus 1.6 Zetec just as good a drive as the mk1. And on the plus side, it is 7.5cm longer and 5.5cm wider than the mk1. Though it's hard to notice if any of that extra space is actually in the cabin. On the minus side the seat fabrics in the mk2 Zetec are crap compared to the mk1. And the fantastically iconic exterior styling of the mk1 makes the mk2 look a more boring looking car than it actually is. In fact as a package in professional reviewer eyes, the mk2 is rated as a better car than the mk1 [exterior styling aside] That said, I prefer the exterior styling on the latest Focus, definitely over the mk2, and slightly over the mk1. I think Ford have tried to get back on the latest Focus what it lost exterior style wise on the mk2.

But not having driven the latest Focus, I could not offer a comment as to wither it's lost something in the handling prowess of the mk1/mk2 variants. I dare say my perfect Focus would be the driving experience I have enjoyed in both the mk1 and m2k, but in the latest skin, with the latest toys and safety features. I do miss the rain sensitive wipers, and auto dimming rear view mirror, cruise and the assurance of knowing I had traction control if it was ever needed of the Volvo, all now available in the latest Focus.

Oh and before [url="http://business.rediff.com/report/2009/dec/24/auto-ford-to-sell-volvo-to-chinese-co-for-dollar-1-point-8-billion.htm"]Ford sell the Volvo brand to the Chinese[/url] could I possibly have the deep leather heated seats out of the S40 please.
ford focus edge
If im honest, i was looking at an s40 volvo 2.4 sport as my next car (bit grandad seing as i hopefully will be 20 when i get my next car) and having been various times in my uncle's v40 se i agree the seats are a revalation in comfort lol not very good in the side support area though.
Best car for seats by far and away are lexus's having worked there briefley and driven most of the models there really really good cars if a bit spongey and expensive for my sporty taste's.

Cheers for the input guys its much apprecaited keep your thoughts coming!

Mike
thesilverfox
Father's MKI Zetec 1.8 is lively, nimble and good fun.

I had an ST170 - immensely fun, but not quick enough.

Now have a MKII 1.8 TDCi (sig). Heavier (!), but feels more planted on the road.



The MKI is a different drive. I preferred the steering in the MKI, but then I much prefer the interior in the MKII as it has FAR fewer rattles and squeaks.

MKI seats are a little more comfortable (the leather trimmed), but the MKII is a lot quieter.

We could go on for a while :D But both have their merits. I have an 'exceptional' MKII spec, in that it's far more than 'average' so I can't really comment like for like for real fairness. MKII is more of a mile muncher though, as it's a bit bulkier - handles almost as well, but takes some time to get used to it.
Bagheera
I have driven 3 Focuses so far - one of them was MK 1. It was a pleasure to drive, so smooth like a flying carpet. I drived it for 7 years then bought my current Focus. This one drives well too, with its punchy diesel engine but somewhat different. Maybe just because it's heavier. (My first Focus was a 1.6 petrol model.)
ford focus edge
Silverfox i saw your mkII in a pervious post and its one of the best looking mkII's ive seen! not kissing arse but i prefer ones like yours to the st225's which scream PULL ME OVER to the police and have "tosser" written down the side of them mostley because all the young people that drive them usually have them on finance, shout about how they have an st focus when as its not acctually theres HA!. Sorry thats my beef with st drivers lol. Not saying there a bad car there excellent and hammer the golf gti into the ground its just mostly the people that drive them that ruin the car :(
I also agree with you that the st170 just simpally is not fast enough for the insurance preimum you have to pay you can get so much more for less, still a shit hot car though imo :P .

Mike
thesilverfox
[quote name='ford focus edge' post='56756' date='Dec 27 2009, 04:51 PM']Silverfox i saw your mkII in a pervious post and its one of the best looking mkII's ive seen! not kissing arse but i prefer ones like yours to the st225's which scream PULL ME OVER to the police and have "tosser" written down the side of them mostley because all the young people that drive them usually have them on finance, shout about how they have an st focus when as its not acctually theres HA!. Sorry thats my beef with st drivers lol. Not saying there a bad car there excellent and hammer the golf gti into the ground its just mostly the people that drive them that ruin the car :(
I also agree with you that the st170 just simpally is not fast enough for the insurance preimum you have to pay you can get so much more for less, still a shit hot car though imo :P .

Mike[/quote]

Hey - thanks for the comments! It's nice when other people like a 'unique' look too. I'm chuffed with mine, but take no rights in making it look that way - Ford made it :) I just bought it.

I've not seen another Focus MKII with the same spec as mine (some have come close though), so I'm pleased to have a diesel (diseasel!) that's fairly unique.

I enjoyed the ST70 - good step up from the 1.25 Fiesta, but glad I didn't get the ST225, as it would have been asking for more points on my licence ... !
ford focus edge
[quote name='thesilverfox' post='56763' date='Dec 27 2009, 06:23 PM']Hey - thanks for the comments! It's nice when other people like a 'unique' look too. I'm chuffed with mine, but take no rights in making it look that way - Ford made it :) I just bought it.

I've not seen another Focus MKII with the same spec as mine (some have come close though), so I'm pleased to have a diesel (diseasel!) that's fairly unique.

I enjoyed the ST70 - good step up from the 1.25 Fiesta, but glad I didn't get the ST225, as it would have been asking for more points on my licence ... ![/quote]


Haha another focus driver with points! theres many of us out there my friend. I've gone for the "unique" look on mine but mine was'nt bought its made ;) ive only ever seen one other focus edge in tonic blue with the colour coded strips on *touch wood* i just wish mine was a 5 stud that way i can have the same alloys as your mkII in the graphite shade but insted i have the crappy 16" edge wheels <_< HATE them lol. Going to load mine with eletrics now i have my crimbo money muahaha.

Mike
thesilverfox
Is the Tonic Blue almost a green shade? If it's the one I am thinking of, it's a pain to colour code on damaged wings etc. The Focus forum has one guy with that colour ... but I don't think he's colour coded all the rub strips (yet?).

I personally don't like changing the looks other than with genuine Ford intended parts, but accept that plenty love to. I considered the MKII Focus dress-up kit, but it's quite expensive and you can't see it from the inside! Far easier to buy the Focus CC front bumper and skip the skirts (or use ST skirts - but forgo mud flaps). Still a waste for me.

Will be doing a full detail on mine soon, but waiting for it to warm up. Impossible in the current temperatures really!
ford focus edge
Loooooooads of my mates think its silver then they move back abit and think its blue its a really weird colour and ur right a ***t to match in my rubber strips are really cloce if a tiny bit off as they always are just the door handles that look cack which will be gettin replaced shortly!. I was thinking of getting the "egr" front,side and rear skirt set but its expensive as hell so bugger it il cat a cat-back and wire my heated seats in etc.
Friend of mine fitted a wrc front bumper to his mp3 and left the rest alone completly and didnt even colour code the strips on the doors etc so it wouldant look as bad and the end result is his car is worthles and luks shit. Motto is be VERY careful what you swap over and how much you spend on parts.

Mike
thesilverfox
Only Ford parts would ever make it onto my car. (asides from remap/tuning box/brake discs and pads [Mintex for me]). 3rd party stuff is usually shite and not quite right.
ford focus edge
Alot of the parts on my car are from ford but one ones that arent look completly standard like my rear lights have the clear indicator lenses but the brake/headlight area is still red (there the US spec led ones), only my angel eyes, stero and speakers+amp, induction kit and nearly evey bulb has been swaped for xeon or led are the non-standard ford parts. It sounds modified but to be honest its more modern/top spec mk1 much like yours is top spec mk2

Mike
thesilverfox
Xenon/HIDs are a funny one - technically require the washers and self-levellers to be legal, but the police aren't that fussed at the moment it seems.

My parents got me a pair of Philips Xtreme Power headlamp bulbs for Christmas (very nice of them!), so looking forward to putting those in when mine finally bite the dust.

One thing I have noticed and forgot to mention about the MKI/MKII ... the MKII has the most peculiar but amazing mirrors - it almost feels like you can see around more of the car than you should. In fact, it was the first thing I noticed when I bought it!
ford focus edge
[quote name='thesilverfox' post='56877' date='Dec 28 2009, 06:00 PM']Xenon/HIDs are a funny one - technically require the washers and self-levellers to be legal, but the police aren't that fussed at the moment it seems.

My parents got me a pair of Philips Xtreme Power headlamp bulbs for Christmas (very nice of them!), so looking forward to putting those in when mine finally bite the dust.

One thing I have noticed and forgot to mention about the MKI/MKII ... the MKII has the most peculiar but amazing mirrors - it almost feels like you can see around more of the car than you should. In fact, it was the first thing I noticed when I bought it![/quote]

I think my angel eyes have them phillips bulbs in not entirley sure they were put on in the summer! The police are only fussed about you if your under 23, drive a nice car and lean foward when you drive period. I keep knocking my mirrors :( i find them hugeeee when im trying to get in and out of the garage (now i just park on the drive sod it) they are crap though i just love that there heated on cold days just wish the rear view mirror was, when the heater is on full heat and power on the window screen it fog's over :blink: bit of a pain in the arse when your freezing to death attempting to drive down a country lane at 8:30am lol

Mike
thesilverfox
Air con will get rid of any moisture inside the car :) people forget it's great in the cold too!

I can't remember what it's like to freeze - heated seats and quick clear screen is a god send :)
ford focus edge
Air con, shit forgot i had that lmao! shows how much i use it. I love my quickclear screen its great with frost makes de-icing the car nice and easy and im in the proces of wiring in my heated seats just looking for looms etc like bloodey gold dust though, rung ford and they had no idea they existed so im going to find a ghia in a scrap yard and shred it! muahah

Mike
thesilverfox
I couldn't be without heated seats you know!

Car was in for a major service today and the Ford dealer had an RS in the showroom. I remarked how it didn't have the satnav as standard (for 27k!) and the sales guy remembered my car and said 'you've got that grey one, haven't you?'.

Chatted for a good hour or so and I noticed that the bumpers, side skirts etc that are green, are a different green to the rest of the car. Disappointing! Bloody comfy car though, yet was surprised that the engine was a lot quieter and subdued than I was expecting.

Good luck wiring in the seats!
ford focus edge
Cheers buddie il need it!

I LOVE the new rs think they look stunning, sound mint and go like s**t of a shovel but to be honest id never ever buy one after all its stil a focus and there just not worth the kind of money ford are charging for the rs. I mean 27,000 hard earned pounds for one of britans most common cars, come on really? dont get me wrong i do really like them but its just ludicras that people are willing to pay that.

Just after i left high school i was an apprentis ford mechanic at our district's main dealer and for the opening day of the dealer they had a ford gt and a focus wrc rally car (ghronholme's one cant spell the name so good luck with that lol) the gt just pulled and pulled like a train thats mind blowingley fast but the wrc car, i nearly got brown stains on my overall's theres 0 turbo lag the gear changes are split second. The top speed isnt to good but the handling and acceleration made the car untouchable by almost anything out there.

If you ever get the chance to go in one jump at it! Oh and out of curiouisty how many miles has your focus done

Mike
thesilverfox
Mine's done 35k now.

I've had the pleasure of being thrown about in a JDM Subaru WRX STi that had been modified heavily. I nearly vomited ...
ford focus edge
Mines just ticked over to 49,000 on the way home today.

Scoobey's nayyy Evo's yayyy lol although i have seen focus's nocking around with subaru engine conversians pesonally rather than buying a 2nd focus i just want a st200 mondeo v6 conversion done to mine and to take all my sound system out and fix the few rattles that are on my mk1 (just loose clips that have fell down the back of the bloodey door cards i cant get at) :(

Mike
thesilverfox
I'd just get a Caterham. Cheap, cheerful and outrageously good. Came very close to buying one for myself second hand, before realising I have no garage to put it in when it's wet, cold, winter etc :D
ford focus edge
Mates dad's got a westfield had a go in that and its a tad to on the wild side for me im afraid more into overpowered 4wd jappie cars or big brutish holden's and aussie fords. Why could'nt ford of made a beefey mk1 focus insted of the rs :( which caterham where you going to buy. If i was loaded enough to have a second car im afraid to say it would be a vauxhall monaro 6.0v8 vxr :lol: at 18 i admit thats wishful thinking but were all allowed a dream :P
mcouchard
[quote name='ford focus edge' post='56437' date='Dec 23 2009, 05:24 PM']Hi guys and girls, after seing an old friend from high school today on my travels he has just bought a mk3 focus zetec-s 1.8 tdci. He let me take it round the cark park for a quick spin and vice versa with my mk1 and im not just being sour about his brand new shiny ford and me with my 5yr old one :( i found his mk3 not as much fun to drive. It still had all the feel of a focus but it didnt seem as eager to want to be thrown about as much and im worried that the focus has lost some of its soul for the sake of a smoother ride and drive. Was just wondering how many of you guys have had a mk1 and then bought a mk2 and felt the same or even with a mk3.

Mike[/quote]

Not to be too contriversial but does the Mk1 Focus really drive that well. I realise by now I have quite a bad example with everything that has gone wrong. But I much prefer driving my Mk1 Renault megane 1.4 16v in comparison the Focus feels like I'm driving a water bed there is no feeling or feedback. I never have any idea what speed I'm doing unless my eyes are glued to the speedo and the acceleration between 50 and 60 is a tad bit slow. At motorway speeds it is great and cruises effortlessly, which is where it truimphs over the smaller megane. But around town and on country lanes I find it too numb, I personally like to know what is going on and feel that I am going in corners etc. Probably a combination of what I am used to and the fact that its a more modern car.
ford focus edge
The only renault ive driven is a 2001 clio, it wasnt bad but i wouldant buy one lol. The focus does mute speed rather well but personally i like that i can be doing unmentional speeds and not notice but when you really push a focus round the tight and twistys you can have a wrestle and a good play with it. What kind of problems have you had with yours and how come you find it slow from 50-60 if i use the gears in my 1.6 it irritates people in 318i bmw's etc

Mike
mcouchard
[quote name='ford focus edge' post='58477' date='Jan 6 2010, 02:44 PM']The only renault ive driven is a 2001 clio, it wasnt bad but i wouldant buy one lol. The focus does mute speed rather well but personally i like that i can be doing unmentional speeds and not notice but when you really push a focus round the tight and twistys you can have a wrestle and a good play with it. What kind of problems have you had with yours and how come you find it slow from 50-60 if i use the gears in my 1.6 it irritates people in 318i bmw's etc

Mike[/quote]

Problems: clutch, clutch bearing, front springs, alternator and gear linkage all replaced within three months of purchase, fuel economy is currentely 28mpg and its now making strange noises when braking. I think the rear brakes have locked up as my wife said they were making a grinding noise before it skidded last night. Which could explain the futher drop in the fuel economy on this tank it has taken a massive dive looks like it will be mid 20's. I have yet to investigate the brakes as yet though.

Acceleration: I have just found that when accelerating up hill on a slip road a few times there hasn't been much pull and it has strugggled to get upto 60mph with ony two slim adults on board in the summer. I don't drive the Focus often, but since I have left it in forth gear until I reach 60mph to overcome the issue. This might be what most Focus drivers do I suppose, but I usually change into 5th at 50mph on other cars I've driven unless the car is particularly full.
ford focus edge
My brakes are poo currently mostly due to the snow and ice here and the fact due to college being closed its been standing for a while dosent help i dont think but that will just wear off as the temp heats up and the car gets used more. Fair does though your sounds like an absoutle pig lol no offence but thats badd! hope they were replaced under a warrenty. on hills because the focus is admitadly a heavy beast it struggles in 5th on hills etc i always go down to 4th and feather it up rather than foot hard down in 5th. On normal roads i change up into 5th at 40 n just let it gain speed in its own time unles theres a need to gain speed more quickley like a citroen saxo trying to overtake me for example..

Mike
mcouchard
[quote name='ford focus edge' post='58531' date='Jan 6 2010, 06:59 PM']My brakes are poo currently mostly due to the snow and ice here and the fact due to college being closed its been standing for a while dosent help i dont think but that will just wear off as the temp heats up and the car gets used more. Fair does though your sounds like an absoutle pig lol no offence but thats badd! hope they were replaced under a warrenty. on hills because the focus is admitadly a heavy beast it struggles in 5th on hills etc i always go down to 4th and feather it up rather than foot hard down in 5th. On normal roads i change up into 5th at 40 n just let it gain speed in its own time unles theres a need to gain speed more quickley like a citroen saxo trying to overtake me for example..

Mike[/quote]

:lol: Fair enough no it is a pig and I suspect its ex AA and being so honest I would feel obliged to tell the propective buyers so it looks like I'm stuck with it. My wife said the brakes were better yesterday but because of the ice today I've given her my car as I have put winter tyres on the front of it.

Ahh Citroen Saxo's no I would let them past its safer that way for me, a Toyota Yaris or Smart car on the other hand is a diff matter.
ford focus edge
How much are winter tyres, mines currently on sports (pirelli p6000's) and there crap in the rain and cold but brilliant on dry sunny days stick like bird crap to a windowscreen. We need more people like you telling us about the car's history! all i no about mine is that is was owned by women all its life even still though it looks like one of them tried to remove the stero with a knife :( not happy about that but it was the car's only fault at the time.

Why not!!! i love harassing the boy racer's in there 1.1's by far and away the best though is the buissnesman in there bmw's carving them up, not letting them out of junctions and overtaking them and seing the length's they'l go through to overtake you back etc gives me such a warm feeling inside it really shuldant but i agree with you on the smart car's and why just the yaris all toyota's are dangers mostly due to the fact nearly everyone driving one is older than time its self! getting cloce to a rant here lol

Mike
mcouchard
[quote name='ford focus edge' post='58666' date='Jan 7 2010, 11:40 AM']How much are winter tyres, mines currently on sports (pirelli p6000's) and there crap in the rain and cold but brilliant on dry sunny days stick like bird crap to a windowscreen. We need more people like you telling us about the car's history! all i no about mine is that is was owned by women all its life even still though it looks like one of them tried to remove the stero with a knife :( not happy about that but it was the car's only fault at the time.

Why not!!! i love harassing the boy racer's in there 1.1's by far and away the best though is the buissnesman in there bmw's carving them up, not letting them out of junctions and overtaking them and seing the length's they'l go through to overtake you back etc gives me such a warm feeling inside it really shuldant but i agree with you on the smart car's and why just the yaris all toyota's are dangers mostly due to the fact nearly everyone driving one is older than time its self! getting cloce to a rant here lol

Mike[/quote]

Winter tyres are the same price as summer tyres I got 2x Toyo Snow Proxes on the Megane they are mud and snow rated and were 46 each. I got an extra steel wheel from a scrap yard 25 and used my full size spare so that I have six wheels so between nov and march I can have the winters on, then in march put the wheels in the shed and bring out a summer pair for the rest of the year. Winter tyres are a more softer rubber and will wear out very quickly in the summer. The optimum temperatures for winter tyres is below 7 degrees hence nov to march works quite well and in snow they are great last year the megane wheel span at the slighest opportunity in the winter months despite haveing new continentals on it. this winter nothing not even on the ice although I am being careful.

For the Focus I followed the Which? best tyre advice and got a local place to order in Bridgestone ER300's (summer tyres) 66 each usually 75 a piece to replace the worn out Michelin's on the front. They have only been on a month and I have driven it in the snow once and it is okay I only felt them slip once braking on my drive, but they aren't a patch on the grip I get from the winters on the Megane. Trouble is its alloys on the Focus and the tyres are much more expensive generally so I'm reluctant to get winters for that.

Best feeling I ever had was beating an nearly new Audi RS4 away from the traffic lights in my then 8 yr old 1.4 16v Megane its was a beautiful moment. the middle aged businessman almost ditched the Audi trying to undertake me after the lights. I think that was purey down to faster reaction speeds and knowing my car, I haven't tried it again since.
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I'm just goin to stick with my p6000's for now on the day to day they suit my driving style ie your avrage 18yr old student who's late for a lecture. If my car was on steelies id get a set of winter tyres or just a massive set of rs wheels with on pz zero's muaha i think thats what there called at least.

Out of curiouisty have you seen the new renaultsport megane? just being a megane driver what do you reckon of it to me it just looks like a vxr astra with a worse badge on :P

Mike


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