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    New 1.4 TDCi Style +
  1. Well - thought would give an update..... Over 6k miles now. Have a new journey to and from work which, while mostly Motorway, is only about 20 miles each way so I suspect the engine is only really getting up to temp really just as I am stopping. Have stopped checking the MPG religiously - was getting too depressing. Check on last fill......is now up to about 53mpg. Not great - but getting there. On the plus side - still loving the car. Have seen it in White on the roads.....not normally my cup of tea - but definitely liking that one. B) B)
  2. Just out of curiosity.....the golf I had was advertised with a combined cycle economy of 57 - from which I averaged about 51. The Fiesta advertised at 67 - from which I am getting (at best) 51! I take all the points about research and getting an eco car etc - but, for me at least, the above figures kind of highlight the point I was trying to make.
  3. Fair point on the Golf - think in hindsight the 1.4 is just not powerful enough! Disagree on the eco box though. Size wise I couldn't (didn't want to) go much smaller than a Fiesta.....and comparing all of the information available - the Fiesta is allegedly still a front runner. If it turns out that each car is the same proportion down on the Combined Cycle figures....then fine, all things are equal and you take your pick. It seems from this thread though that the Ford actual performance is further away from the advertised level than some other manufacturers. Just want to point out - I am still very happy with my choice, the Fiesta is achieving the goal of saving me money from my last car (Meganne R26). Another factor on my personal choice was the car is a private lease....and the Fiesta was cheaper (monthly) than some of the other cars in the sector (Mazda 2, Corsa, Ibiza etc). So all in I am still getting a saving.......just surprised at how much lessit is to what was calculated when making the initial decision. Flash
  4. Surely you have just contradicted yourself - "Lets face it, if you were after a high mpg vehicle a quick search online would find you other vehicles with higher mpg figures that a 1.4 tdi fiesta" - but you also point out we would be stupid to do that. As for your main points - i do fully accept that it would be very naiive to make this kind of purchase on the quoted figures alone. Having said that - with the current financial climate leading more and more people (me included) to make decisions heavily based on running costs etc - do you not agree that to freely publish figures so far off the mark in the real world is only asking for the kind of "whinging" that obviously bugs you. how would you suggest I look for a car then, and get a good idea of the costs, if I cannot take anything said by the manufacturer as accurate? My own annoyance is not helped by the fact I have previously owned a 2.0 TDi Golf. With your knowledge on cars.....would you expect that Fiesta to have a better or worse MPG than the Golf? Same driver, same driving conditions and ignoring quoted figures from Ford or VW. Wouldn't the world be a dull place if we all had the same opinion! Flash
  5. Be interested to hear how you got on with Trading Standards. Have now gone past 3,500 miles and the best return so far is 52.... averaging 49! Flash
  6. Is interesting to hear the stories of higher performance - cheers guys. I have now gone over 2000 miles and am still averaging just shy of 50mpg in my 1.4 Seems to be a big variance between different cars. Will let you know when I have taken mine back to the dealers. Flash
  7. Hi all I can report mine has crept up to 51 for a long Motorway journey (about 250 miles). I think the next fill though is going to report a fall back to the 49 mark. I am going to take it back for the garage to run it over the diagnostics....see if that gives any joy. Flash
  8. Don't get me wrong - I really do like the car. Also, if you accept that all manufacturers are doing the same - then we should still benefit from a Fiesta quoted at 67 rather than a.n.other quoted at 55 (for example) What I am going to try and find out though is how they (not just Ford) are allowed to use such (accepted) misleading figures in their literature. Surely this goes against some kind of Trading Standards guides. There must be paramaters that they are required to stay within (or they may as well quote 100 mpg) - I am just curious to find whether this is +/- 30% Please also don't assume I am simply very naiive on this - I have had a large No of cars that averaged from as low as 18mpg to 50+ ..... I have honestly been surprised that this Fiesta, ignoring the claimed 67 for a sec, is not getting any higher than 47!!
  9. Cheers - those descriptions are very useful. Looking at the What Car Website....the 3 figures for the 1.4 are:- Town mpg 53.3 Out of Town mpg 80.7 Average mpg 67.3 By all accounts - people on here seem to be getting less than 50 - and that is after a few k's on the engine and some very varied driving styles....surely we cannot all be ragging the thing to within an inch of it's life.
  10. I do understand that it would be ambitious to expect to match to figures......what really grates me is just how far off they are yet are still permitted to advertise!
  11. Hi all On seperate posts I have indicated that I have a New 1.4 TDCi and on the whole - am very impressed with it.... HOWEVER The economy is SO FAR away from the claimed....sorry, claimed is not good enough.....Advertised MPG from Ford and all magazines that I can see this being a real bug-bear for me, so I wanted to start a new topic to keep you informed. The Advertised MPG of 67 was THE reason behind me getting this car. My aim is to save cash.....most new small cars are pretty much of a muchness (Sorry, crap saying I know) - but the Ford MPG was a clincher (Secondary came the fresh design and handling of course!!) I have been told, along with others on this board obviously, that it should improve over time. While I think this shouldn't be the case - I am willing to give it a go. If the figure does not improve from it's current level - I have decided I am going to start writing to whoever I think should be listening - this will probably waste my time, and more importantly theirs - but I do not find it acceptable that they can advertise one figure and yet the reality is SO much different. I also don't accept the argument "The advertised MPG is under strict controlled conditions" as explained by my local dealer. As far as I know there are 3 figures quoted by Ford (and magazines) - Urban, Extra Urban and Combined. Again, my understanding is that the Combined is "supposed" to reflect real driving conditions / situations - so should be a good reflection. So, as we stand at the moment - I have just gone past 1,500 miles and I am currently averaging 47MPG. By my quick reckoning - this is about 200 miles per tank short of the advertised.....NOT ACCEPTABLE!! Well, thanks for getting this far. I apologise if these seems a pointless rant over something we should all just accept - if so, thanks for your time and please feel free to ignore any further posts under this heading. Otherwise I will keep you updated as to the ongoing economy of my little motor (my god, how dull does that sound? but it may prove useful for any prospective buyers doing some research) and also any responses I may (or may not) get from anyone in authority. Cheers Flash B)
  12. Cheers for the replies. The noise does seem to be coming from the drivers side. It seems to be worse when it is cold....but it never goes away until the engine is turned off. I had a look under the bonnet with a mate - and it sounds like some kind of belt slipping.....there are more belts on the drivers side as well. As I said, the dealer took the car out and said they couldn't hear anything wrong....and it was likely to be the electronic power steering. I don't really buy this as most people who have been in the car can hear it. I am going to take it back to another dealer - and ask them to start up an equivalent car to see if it is "normal". Will let you know how it goes - and will also keep you up to date with the economy...i am a bit anal with logging mileage etc so will be able to have an accurate log!! Flash B)
  13. Hi all Have now covered just over 1,000 miles in the new motor....and I have to say I am very impressed. Just a couple of gripes which I would welcome comments on:- 1) There is a constant noise coming from the drivers side when the engine is running. This is noticeably louder when the engine is cold......but even after longer runs it is still there and is quite annoying. Dealer told me there was nothing wrong and it was the noise of the Power Steering! Not sure this is true as I can't believe they would design something with this kind of noise. Even after the Diesel rattle has subsided it is still there!! 2) Economy. The whole idea of getting this car was swayed heavily by the quoted figures. I previously had a Meganne R26 which returned only about 28Mpg. Now I am not so naiive to think I would be getting the stated 67Mpg straight away - or even after a while running in.....but at the moment, after 1,000 miles...... I am only getting 48Mpg. I have previously had a 2.0 TDi Golf...and that returned 50+ - surely a smaller car with a 1.4 engine should be more economical!! The dealer wasn't interested - they simply told me how to calculate the Mpg.....quite obviously I had already done this or I wouldn't have known there may be an issue - and also that the engine hadn't "run in" yet. Should I really be expecting such a dramatic increase as the miles grow? Am going to take it back to another dealer to see what they think......but I cannot accept a difference of about 20Mpg from the quoted / advertised "Combined" figure. That's almost 200 miles difference per tank!! Despite the above - I do actually love the car. Is a different experience than I am used to - driving becomes much more relaxed than in the Meganne. Just want to get rid of these niggling doubts. Cheers for any comments Flash B)
  14. Hi all Quick intro - picked up my new Fiesta 1.4 TDCi Style+ (in Morello) just before Christmas. This is my answer to the worlds recession in the hope the economy will save some pennies. Generally amd very impressed with the car - have owned a 1.25 Zetec before (not sure which model) - which was a great little car. This new one has certainly moved the game on by a long way. Look forward to sharing views on the board Flash B)