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Mr_Spock

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  1. Hi, last year I did a complete stereo installation in my 2005 Focus MK2. I am from Norway, so please excuse the bad english :) And the metric system :) I was very dissapointed with the sound quality in the car. The Head-Unit, Ford CD6000 suffer from a combination of poor dynamic resolution and lack of power - resulting in very bad sound quality. Even replacing it with the cheapest aftermarket cd-players will give you a great improvement in sound quality. I started with a plan on only change the head unit, but somehow it really took off. It ended with a complete stereo installation, including reinforcing the electrical system and sound dampening. At the same time I wanted to make the installation not showing - except for the head unit. I wanted to have good bass, 2x12" woofers in the back, but I use the space there on occasion, so the box had to be easily removed. The choice of components where made of good buys at the time - and Infinity is an old favourite of mine. Start of with some pictures of the finished installation: Schematics showing stereo components and electrical reinforcements: (3-veis aktiv deling: Means 3-way Active Network, it means that crossover for each speaker are built in the cd-player and can be adjustet on the unit. It also require that you have one dedicated amplifier channel to each speaker, except for the woofers in this case - as they preferable are driven in mono. The benefit are that you can adjust many more sound parameters. The unit also includes auto set up (with included microphone) for soundlevels, speaker distances, equlizer and crossover parameters - if you don't want to do it manually) Original sizes shown in parentheses. First: tweeters and woofers in the front doors: I started with checking the size of the stock tweeters, the panels they are built in to, are easy to take off: Just a little photoshop trick to show 3 versions of one panel :) With these measurements, (and for the woofer) I startet looking for a 2-way component speaker system. Not to many systems describes the size of their tweeters in specs on the internet. But I was happy to find the Infinity Kappa Perfect 6.1 system - meeting the requirements - both in size and good reviews. Using rubber tape to make perfect fit (I used some hot glue too) Like a gloove :) Next, the woofers To remove the inner door trim panel, there are 2 bolts hidden behind the lower part of the grab handle, the rest are retaining clips and disconnecting of electrical connectors. Using Haynes Workshop Manual will be helpful. No screws - strange way of fitting speakers... I measured the height of the adapters: I used pliers to help remove the speakers: Backside of the stock speakers: I found speaker adapters on Ebay that fitted well: Now it was possible to measure max depth for the woofer, I lowerer the window to "worst case scenario" : There was still some air between the inner trim panel and the speaker, using only the adapter - I had to build the adapter higher to get a perfect fit: At this point I had not decided on which head unit to buy. I decided to place the included crossovers somewhere in the dash. With that in mind, I decided not to use the original speaker wiring, And increasing the size of the wiring will benefit sound quality. Getting the wiring to the dash was difficult, I ended up using the rubber-hose and going through some holes that was not in use. The wiring connected to the crossovers in the dash. Later when I chose to go for 3-way active network and amplifiers - these where not used. Finished door: For a while, I used these speakers with an old Pioneer 4x50W cd-player - and the sound was truly fantastic, compared to the old system. I really loved how easy it was to work on the Focus. And I began thinking of using amplifiers and maybe getting a subwoofer. Fascia and wiring loom was bought on Ebay - uk sellers. As mentioned, I was really happy with the new stereo installation. But thoughts on how it would sound with a couple of amplifiers and a good subwoofer kept me thinking. I have not installed such a stereo system in a car before, and almost all installations I have seen, have left the luggage compartment close to unusable. And I did'nt want this. After a lot of thinking and searching on the net, I came up with a solution that would give me both high sound quality and a luggage compartment to use. All those car-stereo places I visited, mentioned the big improvement in sound quality - with sound dampening. My Focus had a really big problem with road noise, even with summer tires, it's a big problem. And in the winter season I use these tires: Better sound quality and lowered road noise - yes I wanted that! So taking apart the interior next, starting with the most important, the front doors: Draining channels in the bottom of the doors were close to not function, because of this slimy goo, it smelled too. All the doors had the same problem. No wonder car doors rust at the bottom. Properly cleaned: The sound damping mats I used, I bought from a local shop, they are heavy. About 3kg/sq.m. In total I used 16 sq.m - a total of almost 50kg. Very easy to work with, just remember to clean surface properly. Put on multple layers behind the speaker: The inner panel: Taking the doors apart are easy, but using the Haynes manual is recommended. I lubricated all the moving parts I coud reach. The locking mechanism and power windows working as smooth as ever. And the feeling and sound of closing the doors!!! No more "boiiing" bucket sound when closing doors - more like an old luxury car with a elegant low click. And you can barely hear the central locking operate - I now have to look at the blinking lights to ensure the car locks when using the remote. Back doors getting the same treatment: Just by doing this, the road noise were significant lowered. The sound quality improved too - especially to a tighter, harder bass - just how we like it :) Back to the sound dampening, as expected there was very little sound dampening installed. The roof: The luggage compartment, the wheel housing without any sound dampening - no wonder my car is noisy :) Sorted - with multiple layers especially on the wheel housings: I used the opportunity to improve the lighting here too - white LEDs on both sides:
  2. Hi, last year I did a complete stereo installation in my 2005 Focus MK2. I am from Norway, so please excuse the bad english :) And the metric system :) I was very dissapointed with the sound quality in the car. The Head-Unit, Ford CD6000 suffer from a combination of poor dynamic resolution and lack of power - resulting in very bad sound quality. Even replacing it with the cheapest aftermarket cd-players will give you a great improvement in sound quality. I started with a plan on only change the head unit, but somehow it really took off. It ended with a complete stereo installation, including reinforcing the electrical system and sound dampening. At the same time I wanted to make the installation not showing - except for the head unit. I wanted to have good bass, 2x12" woofers in the back, but I use the space there on occasion, so the box had to be easily removed. The choice of components where made of good buys at the time - and Infinity is an old favourite of mine. Start of with some pictures of the finished installation:
  3. Speaker Recommendation

    Just read this thred and have a few comments. There are two different ways to drive speakers in the car - with or without an external amp. As mentioned earlier - you only have up to max 25W per channel (2 channel driven) in the cd-player - at best. If you choose not to use en external amp, you have to look for a speaker set that are built for this. You can check for parameters like impedance and sensitivity - where low impedance and high sensitivity will give an easily driven speaker. But luckily this type of speakers are often marked as "High Efficiency Systems" og "High Sensitivity" - so they are not hard to find. Focals and Gladen are brands that are known for having types of easily driven speakers - others have too. I am about to replace the original speakers in my daughters first car, a Peugeot 206 (whats wrong with Ford??). I am gonna put in Gladen M-165 (6,5" with tweeters and crossovers) these are specially built for use without an external amp. Going to use my old Pioneer DEH-4200SD cd-player to feed them. They come highly recommended by a couple of "car-stereo-guys" i have chatted with. I will hopefully have the job done in a couple of weeks - can leave an impression then.
  4. That is great! Focal are on top of my list if I upgrade the fronts in the future.
  5. Missed these questions about ignition on and live + to the head unit. I used the 12V Ignition (switched) that controlled the old head unit - to the new. And the new 6mm2 cable is a constant 12V +. I made a new 12 negative connection to the head unit - using a more solid cable and connected it to a good connection point behind the head unit in the dash somewhere. I don't think there much difference in SQ by turning the internal amps off - but it's a nice nerd feature :) I think the Pioneer DEH-PRS80's better quality dac and electronic components overall - are more significant in SQ. And further it's wide tuning abilities. The only thing missing - is that the equalizer should be parametric.
  6. Thanks Lenny :) I installed a dashcam - used a 12V relay - switching by the ignition/stereo + , controlling the 12V socket in front of the gear stick: Camera behind the rear-view mirror:
  7. I installed an usb interface some time ago: Perfect fit, got it from Ebay. The cd-player have 2 usb connections on the back side - used on of these. Just had the timing belt and the front shock absorbers replaced - the Focus have around 90k km (55k miles?) on the meter.
  8. Good to read that I am not the only oldtimer who likes good sound quality in the car - I'm 52 :) You are so right about todays stereo components - compared to those back in the old days. Your plans sound great.
  9. Thank you for positive responses. There are a lot of solutions I used, just because I had the cable and it was easy to do. I am a big fan of overdoing things :) The stereo install still works perfectly. Lately I have been using som time to manually adjusting sound parameters to get an more even frequency respons - mostly in the lower frequencys. It makes a huge improvement. I used the UMIK-1 usb microphone from MiniDSP: http://www.minidsp.com/products/acoustic-measurement/umik-1 and using the REW free software: http://www.roomeqwizard.com/ With these on a laptop you have very good and easy to use tool.
  10. You have good arguments - I do not disagree. Thinking only money and SQ - Class AB would be preferable. But in a car with stock electrical system - Class AB delivering 40% of its power consumption in to the heatsink. Voltage drop could compromise sound quality. For me this is a bigger concern - than the difference in SQ between Class AB and Class D. I can not hear the difference - not at home - and probably not in the car. But maybe, as you wrote - using Class D for sub and Class AB for the front set - is the best choice - a good comprimise of cost, voltage drop and SQ?
  11. I beleive THD less than 1% on the Kappa 4 - means 0,05% : http://eu.infinitysystems.com/infinity-product-detail-eu/kappa-four.html As for the Class AB vs Class D, at home in a very good listening environment - maybe you are right. Class A - for sure. Still - I own a Pioneer home cinema receiver, with class D - and I beleive it collected top results in every review I have read. And I like it too :) In a car - with lot of roadnoise etc - and perhaps playing mp3's - spotify - I do not believe it would be an hearable improvement using class AB over class D.
  12. Looks like a good deal on the Kappa :) The Kappa Perfect 6.1 are rated at 100W nom. and 400W max. power handling, with a sensitivity of 90 dB.
  13. No issues, cheap (£270 in Norway), delivers great power without getting hot, small and easy to install, looks great. Sounds great with my Infinity Kappa component speakers. I mainly choose the Kappa amplifiers, because I use Kappa speakers in the car (and the specs) - and I have been very pleased with the choise. But I would surely been happy with another brand too. good luck on your amplifier hunt :)
  14. Hi , Hassen, your setup looks great. Great Work I agree with FOCA's advices. But I think class D are totally ok in the listening envirement of a car. Think voltage drop are a bigger concern - class D delivers more power, using less current. Choosing SQ - active crossovers with time-alignment sure will improve. The prefab sub looks great. Love the pictures - fun to watch your progress.
  15. It is the same type as these: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Focus-2005-On-MK2-MK2-5-Front-Door-6-5-17CM-Car-Speaker-Adaptor-Brackets/171220347689?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222003%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20646%26meid%3D5715432260365445874%26pid%3D100005%26prg%3D9210%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D290383158666&rt=nc You may find them cheaper, if you search around a little.
  16. It is right behind the Glove Compartment on my car - big hole - no problem with a 50mm2 cable. Thanks for liking the installation - it still sounds amazing.
  17. I used an already made hole, it's on the right side on my car - it is where most of the electric cables from the engine bay comes through. I just widened the big rubber gasket. Good luck with your project :)
  18. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Focus-Diesel-Service-Repair-Manual/dp/1844258076/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1380732741&sr=8-5&keywords=haynes+focus This is for the Diesel
  19. The part cost about £220, and I bought it at my local Ford dealer. For the procedure, i just followed the Haynes Manual for the Ford Focus mkII.
  20. Cleaning

    That's what I do :) Works great. This is my favourite wax: Collinite 476s - gives good protection for many months: Normally I just use an ordinare cheap car shampoo - but if the car is very dirty I also use a foamlance to prewash:
  21. Another Focus

    Awesome looking Focus - sure like the colour
  22. Caliper Grease

    Thanks for the links. I replaced the rear calipers with new ones and serviced the front calipers 1,5 years ago. I belive they are ok for now, but will check them before winter and service them if needed. The salt on the roads here in the winter are hard on the brakes - especially the rear.
  23. Caliper Grease

    Thanks for the link - I have always used silicone grease on the pins, works fine. Never tried this red stuff - but it looks interesting, ordered a little tin - will try this when I service the brakes before the winter :)