update, car booked in to be look at to diagnose the problem Thursday morning. so i can only assume at the moment that its free until they say how to fix it and what its costs them. i then assume as the warranty ran out over the weekend (the lady on the phone told me) i will get a 'goodwill' of lets say 60% as i think thats fair but im going for more. so il get on the phone sone to trading standards and see what they say im willing to get and see how i get on! The thing that gets me is, you buy a newer car for peace of mind. but my 55 plate Coupe hasnt had a problem in 2 years at all, but i guess all cars have the differnt problems if any at all! but to be honest its the last ford i will see on my drive until im very old and dont care anymore!(but hopefully it will be a jag) Thanks for your help so far, updates to follow.