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Justin Smith

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  1. Thanks I thought that must be the case, but it`s nice to have it confirmed !
  2. Hello SPB.

    Have you had a chance to see that picture of my Focus window seal (on the thread) ? Is it the same as your`s (i.e. no seal/trim) ? If so can you confirm exactly where you put the sealant as I`ve finally bought some (see thread) !



    1. ScaniaPBman



      I have been working in France for a while, back now. No fancy iPhone thingys for me.

      Just seen your picture, it looks as if the rubber edging ( what I have called the rubber seal) to the screen glass is present there but not meeting the body. In any case, actually having the two cars side by side is the definitive answer rather than my judgement from a picture.

      I had to lift the rubber seal back from the body to get the nozzle in underneath so that the sealant could be pumped into the cavity behind. I started at the centre of the top and worked back to the corner on each side.

      We had very heavy prolonged rain here about a month ago. When I went out to my car I was disappointed to see that the water had again come through wetting the gear selector and the drivers seat. It took a week of unpleasant smells and towels on the seat to dry it out. Its the first time this has happened since my liberal use of the sealer round the top of the screen. It was leaking at every rain shower before hand so I did improve things a bit!

      Best of luck,




    2. ScaniaPBman



      I have given the windscreen seal more consideration. Looking at 3 Focus screens there is a significant variation in the fit of the screen to the body at the top. Not just from car to car but along the top as well.

      There is nothing missing on your car, the difference appears to be that for you, the gap is so big that the rubber seal does not reach right across. Perhaps the screen has been replaced slightly away from the recommended position leaving a greater than expected gap at the top.

      What would I do?

      Just wait till everything is dry, then pump the sealant in to fill it full behind the rubber seal. There will be some of the sealer exposed to the atmosphere, but since it is petroleum based it will not be washed away. This sealer is supposed not to set hard but with a bit of luck it should form a skin on the outside. Keep the exposed sealer bead well down so that it does not come in contact with the brush or cloth you use for washing the car.

      I hope you get better results than I have had.





    3. Justin Smith

      Justin Smith

      Hello Mike.

      You know there are DIY jobs which you`re really not looking forward to ? Well fusing that sealant on my windscreen was one of them ! And I was right to be apprehensive..... The first problem was the sealant container wouldn`t fit into my sealant gun, I got round that be squeezing out some of the sealant then cutting down the container ! Next, when I tried to pump in the sealant I found the fitter had used a load of silicone under the sealing strip. I didn`t know whether to try and remove it or try to pump the sealant into the gap between the silicone and the bodywork. I chose the former, but getting the silicone out was a buggar of a job, impossible really. In the end I just pumped the sealant and hoped for the best. Unfortunately there is so much of it it`s actually all over the sealing trim ! It looks reasonable but I`m unconvinced that it won`t start coming out when the car is washed. Not that it gets washed very often !

      Basically it`s unfortunate that the windscreen company (wrongly told me they didn`t think it was the seal on the windscreen. I had, at that time, steeled myself for paying the £300, which is looks like I`m going to have to pay anyway having put up with having unsightly tape across the top of my windscreen for 6 months plus !


      What I did find, when my windscreen leaked whilst on holiday in Wales (I`d removed the tape from half the screen to examine the seal), was that if the car is parked facing uphill it leaks far less ! I`ll put that on the thread when I get round to it.

      Anyway, thanks for all your help.

      TTFN Justin Smith

  3. I was having a look at another Focus yesterday and that didn`t appear to have the seal/trim. Not sure why, maybe that had also had a replacement windscreen, but the lady said it definitely did not leak, thus proving the seal/trim does not provide any essential sealing.
  4. I finally got round to ordering some of that sealant, it did at least mean the tape across the top of the windscreen was there for 6 months and was a good test that the water was definitely coming from there ! I ordered the sealant at work but when I got home and examined the windscreen edge closely (to check how I`d get the sealant in) it seems there is a seal / trim missing, see picture. I checked another ford Focus in the swimming pool car park and it confirmed that the trim / seal isn`t there ! I take it there is now nowhere for the sealant to go so it wouldn`t work ?. What can I do ? ! ? Am I right in assuming that, even if I managed to get one of the seals fitted, it wouldn`t actually cure the leak ? It looks more like a trim than a water seal. I`d have thought the actual bonding of the windscreen to the body is the seal ? Am I right or wrong ? Incidentally I was talking to a windscreen fitter in Sheffield who said the actual cause of the leak is that Focus cars of the same model as mine have an awkward plug / socket arrangement for the heated screen and it`s that which sometimes makes the water seal fail. He said the later model has a connection which doesn`t affect the seal so much.
  5. Have you a link to such ? And how much are they ? ! ?
  6. It`s not the money (certainly not at under £5 odd a pair ! ) it`s the hassle. Both times the wipers were working OK so didn`t need changing, then the bleedin` things ripped and I have to remember to order some and then fit them. Even worse if that happens when you`re miles from home and may not be able to fit any for days or even weeks. All i`m saying I can never remember having so much trouble with ripped / torn wiper blades when they were the conventional type, which, in any case, you could buy at a reasonable price from any auto spares shop, or even Wilko !
  7. Original post (3 Dec 14) : "I bought a set of some of those cheap wipers (E Bay item number 291281195842) which I`ve just fitted to my Focus. To be frank I`ve no idea how they can make any money selling those for £4.95 (including postage ! ) but they do fit. I haven`t tried them in the wet yet, but I hopefully they`ll be OK. A few useful points on these wipers "AP Automotive" Hybrid blades. They (correctly) sent one 26" and one 17" for my 2006 Focus. When they arrive they have the H1 adapter fitted, the one to fit the standard hook type wiper arm. This must be pulled off, and you have to pull pretty hard, in an upward direction straight off the wiper, don`t worry, underneath all that plastic is a steel frame and pin so you won`t break it. Then fit the H7 adapter, and this requires a hefty push to get it to fully locate onto the mounting pin and end up flat and parallel with the wiper. Once you`ve done that they went straight on." I have to say the first set of these wipers only lasted just over four months before they split at the bottom. I replaced them with the same type hoping it was just bad luck. But the next set only lasted fifteen months before the same thing happened. The conventional wipers on my old Escort lasted much longer than that. My questions are : Is it normal for these fancy modern wipers to only last between 6 months and a year, or, is it just that these particular wipers are crap quality, or that I`ve just been unlucky with them ? Does anyone know of wipers which are a reasonable price (Halfords want a ridiculous amount of money for their replacement wipers) which will last a few years ?
  8. I thought it quite skillfull I have to say !
  9. I`m assuming you don`t work for a windscreen company ! But seriously, how much strength could be compromised by a less then perfect bond at the top ? And, more to the pint, would a small water leak imply a significantly weaker bond ?
  10. Excellent advice SPB. I have got a slight worry, did I read somewhere that the windscreen was an integral part of the strength of the car and therefore, one assumes, if it isn`t fully bonded to the body shell (and a water leak hints it may not be) that may have a significant effect on the crashworthiness of the vehicle ? Or is that just a sales ploy from the windscreen manufacturers / fitters ? ! ?
  11. Thanks SPB I may end up doing this if the it proves that the water is coming from the screen top. As mentioned above I have a wide piece of see through waterproof tape spanning the gap as we speak ! Have you any more hints on pulling back the gasket ? ! ?
  12. I phoned Autoglass for a quote, they said to remove and replace my screen would be £126 and there was a good chance the screen would crack in which case it would cost £533 for a new screen. I then phoned a local windscreen replacement company (Bees of Sheffield), who said they thought it`d be more helpful if they could to see it. He was very helpful and said if it had a Ford branded screen it was probably original and therefore less likely to be the cause of the leak. In actual fact my screen is branded Pilkington so, he said, that implied it had been fitted aftermarket, which it had as it happens because the bottom trim wan`t fitted correctly ! He also said he didn`t think the screen was the cause of the leak (though he couldn`t be sure) because : 1 When he shut the door no water or bubbles / froth came out of the (wet) seal. 2 If anything there was an excess of sealant (across the top of the screen) rather than an insufficiency ! 3 He said the screen wasn`t flexing at all when he pushed it at the top. He quoted £85 to refit the screen (plus £15 for a new trim if needed), and £300 for a new screen (heated with the rain sensor) if needed. He reckoned there was about a 50% chance of screen cracking when taken off...... Anyway, I`ve temporarily put a tape across the top of the screen (covering the joint between the screen and the body shell) to see if that cures it. If it stops it`s got to be the windscreen seal, if it doesn`t then it must be something else.
  13. Bleedin` hell, particularly for a heated windscreen, that sounds expensive....... Maybe silicone isn`t such a bad idea ! Only joking, well half joking.....
  14. Unfortunately I got into the car today to find more water..... I assume it isn`t the sunroof drain holes because water drains through as mentioned above, nor the aerial attachment as I`ve now siliconed that. The only other thing I can think of is the windscreen seal at the top. Am I right to conclude that and if it is that how difficult is it to cure ? I mean properly as opposed to tying to smear silicone on it, is that a bodge, or is that how a garage would cure it ? ! ?
  15. Does that stop cretins pouring sugar into your fuel filler ? Or is it an Urban Myth that some "lads" do that as a prank "because it makes the engine blow up" ? ! ? Whether that`s true or not, or ever done or not, I have to say I feel better having my fuel filler locked.........