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#1 will_cc3

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Posted 03 February 2010 - 05:19 PM

Hi im a new ford owner just bought my focus cc 2.0ltr and its doing my head in already it looks the part but christ is it slow any one throw some ideas my way as im also new to the modding scene was thinking if i could get the rs engine to go in would this help????

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Posted 03 February 2010 - 06:07 PM

Hi im a new ford owner just bought my focus cc 2.0ltr and its doing my head in already it looks the part but christ is it slow any one throw some ideas my way as im also new to the modding scene was thinking if i could get the rs engine to go in would this help????


Assuming you have the petrol 2.0? The diesel was a better option for most, as the extra weight put on was easily dealt with by the torquey 2.0 TDCi.

And you refer to putting an RS engine in there ... if doubling power output doesn't help, then god help us all. If you mean the MKII RS engine, then good luck finding one for sensible cash (+loom, diff, etc). I'd personlly not bother trying to make the CC quicker - it'll be negligible in most cases and quite expensive.

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Posted 03 February 2010 - 09:54 PM

Assuming you have the petrol 2.0? The diesel was a better option for most, as the extra weight put on was easily dealt with by the torquey 2.0 TDCi.

And you refer to putting an RS engine in there ... if doubling power output doesn't help, then god help us all. If you mean the MKII RS engine, then good luck finding one for sensible cash (+loom, diff, etc). I'd personlly not bother trying to make the CC quicker - it'll be negligible in most cases and quite expensive.



each to there own i think they are ugly personally but as for power they are pretty slow and have been slagged by the motoring press for being so only the diesels are decent companies such as burton power are pros they can rebuild and sell fully tuned engines that will slot in with a 0-60 time thats a full second slower than its 8 year old 1.8 zetec rival ide be tempted to get something done as well but sadly its very expensive just to get an extra 10bhp out of it take it back and get the tdci after major searching no the rs wont fit

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Posted 04 February 2010 - 10:28 AM

Agree with the others on this one. To be able to get a noticable power increase you will probably have to spend a lot of money and it won't just be a simple case of remapping the engine as normally aspirated petrol engines are not as 'tunable' in this regard as turbo charged diesels where the increases from mapping/ chipping can be healthy.

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Posted 04 February 2010 - 12:24 PM

i have got the 1.6TDCI focus (109bhp) and for a diesel the power is impressive, i havent ever driven a petrol focus, but everyone i speak to prefers the turbo diesel for the torque, i am having mine re-mapped soon (dont no if this is an option with the petrol engines??). the only other mods i would consider to free up a bit of power would be a performance airfilter (ive got a K&N panel filter in my airbox), and a 3" stainless steel exhaust system with performance backbox which i have done, and it has give a little bit more power (the exhaust makes the turbo whisle sound louder)

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Posted 04 February 2010 - 12:48 PM

i have got the 1.6TDCI focus (109bhp) and for a diesel the power is impressive, i havent ever driven a petrol focus, but everyone i speak to prefers the turbo diesel for the torque, i am having mine re-mapped soon (dont no if this is an option with the petrol engines??). the only other mods i would consider to free up a bit of power would be a performance airfilter (ive got a K&N panel filter in my airbox), and a 3" stainless steel exhaust system with performance backbox which i have done, and it has give a little bit more power (the exhaust makes the turbo whisle sound louder)



the petrol can be chipped but the gains versus the price arent worth it and most chips will void the warranty anyway as for exhaust a full stainless system for that car will be hundreds you could easily spend 600-700 quid for an extra 5-10hp increase which will make it as quick 0-60 as the standard 1.8 zetec engine thats a lot of cash for an extra second or so the cc is so top heavy really it needs a tdci engine in it at least that way what you lose in hp you gain in torque the petrols have been slagged by every motoring magazine as dull slow and irritating so why ford didnt just stick to diesels i dont know and with 27mpg it wouldnt have been my choice with current fuel prices the more you add ie exhausts etc the more fuel you will use and with 27mpg thats summat you dont want i have tio admit im not that impressed with fords new engines the zetec and duratorq were proven engines the newer ones maybe because of emissions are underpowered and slow and there seem to be more problems with them making diesels the safer option

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Posted 04 February 2010 - 12:49 PM

thanks for the responces but i am hell bent on making this thing as quick as my bank will allow it lol. i am preperd just to throw money at it the only reason i didnt buy the derv burner because i just prefer petrol. would love the 6 speed that the derv has got tho. i have a performance air filter already and a dtm twin exhaust at the mo. does any one no because the cc is basickly a volvo would a galaxy 3.2 v8 fit in it with obviously alot of tinkering????

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Posted 04 February 2010 - 01:02 PM

thanks for the responces but i am hell bent on making this thing as quick as my bank will allow it lol. i am preperd just to throw money at it the only reason i didnt buy the derv burner because i just prefer petrol. would love the 6 speed that the derv has got tho. i have a performance air filter already and a dtm twin exhaust at the mo. does any one no because the cc is basickly a volvo would a galaxy 3.2 v8 fit in it with obviously alot of tinkering????



if you have the cash and you are serious contact burton power as to what is possible they know there stuff and can advise you better than anyone just remember if a volvo engine was possible youll need a new ecu etc the costs can easily run into thousands of pounds http://www.burtonpower.com/ or since you have the 2litre duratec engine you can dribble at these 270bhp engines that can be built and fitted http://www.minister-...nge_duratec.htm

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Posted 04 February 2010 - 01:10 PM

if you have the cash and you are serious contact burton power as to what is possible they know there stuff and can advise you better than anyone just remember if a volvo engine was possible youll need a new ecu etc the costs can easily run into thousands of pounds http://www.burtonpower.com/ or since you have the 2litre duratec engine you can dribble at these 270bhp engines that can be built and fitted http://www.minister-...nge_duratec.htm


Hi there thanks mate for the info ill get onto them. do u no of any meets in the newcastle area? im new to the whole going to meets etc mutch thanks will

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Posted 04 February 2010 - 01:16 PM

thanks for the responces but i am hell bent on making this thing as quick as my bank will allow it lol. i am preperd just to throw money at it the only reason i didnt buy the derv burner because i just prefer petrol. would love the 6 speed that the derv has got tho. i have a performance air filter already and a dtm twin exhaust at the mo. does any one no because the cc is basickly a volvo would a galaxy 3.2 v8 fit in it with obviously alot of tinkering????


Just throwing this one in here guys but if your going to do an engine drop, the st engine would be my choice (2.5t 225bhp with a dream science remap) that would make it shift trust me lol. Or what about an acctual volvo engine 2.3 turbo t5 unit approx 250bhp and a smaller unit than the st one.

This would cost an absoutle bomb of course and personally i dont think itd be worth it if you wanted a focus that went like the clappers you should of got a st or an rs the cc is for posers :lol: imo. My cus had a dark blue cc-3 2.0 and she sold it with in 3 months and went back to a mk2 tdci sport lol women!.

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Posted 04 February 2010 - 01:52 PM

Just throwing this one in here guys but if your going to do an engine drop, the st engine would be my choice (2.5t 225bhp with a dream science remap) that would make it shift trust me lol. Or what about an acctual volvo engine 2.3 turbo t5 unit approx 250bhp and a smaller unit than the st one.

This would cost an absoutle bomb of course and personally i dont think itd be worth it if you wanted a focus that went like the clappers you should of got a st or an rs the cc is for posers :lol: imo. My cus had a dark blue cc-3 2.0 and she sold it with in 3 months and went back to a mk2 tdci sport lol women!.

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i agree it is a posers car i just like the way it looks lol i didnt think about the volvo t5 engine sounds like a plan ill have a good look into that thanks for that

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Posted 04 February 2010 - 04:17 PM

i agree it is a posers car i just like the way it looks lol i didnt think about the volvo t5 engine sounds like a plan ill have a good look into that thanks for that


Unless you can do the work yourself, be prepared to spend an utter fortune dropping in another engine (T5/ST225 or otherwise).

If it were me, I'd think about what I want more: the looks, or the performance. If the latter, trade in for an ST and start from there, as it'd be a far better drive and a lot less money.

However, a modded CC, done properly, could be interesting. Emphasis on 'properly' there - half-arsed effort would be dreadful and impossible to sell on. More so if the roof leaks - Ford salesman told me outright that the CC was worth avoiding as just about every one they have sold has had some ingress issues.

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Posted 04 February 2010 - 08:57 PM

Unless you can do the work yourself, be prepared to spend an utter fortune dropping in another engine (T5/ST225 or otherwise).

If it were me, I'd think about what I want more: the looks, or the performance. If the latter, trade in for an ST and start from there, as it'd be a far better drive and a lot less money.

However, a modded CC, done properly, could be interesting. Emphasis on 'properly' there - half-arsed effort would be dreadful and impossible to sell on. More so if the roof leaks - Ford salesman told me outright that the CC was worth avoiding as just about every one they have sold has had some ingress issues.


What would the chassis be like though with all that power going through it i know when you convert a corsa to a redtop you need to strengthen everything first otherwise itl just f**k the car completly and the traction im assuming once you get the power your going to "have some fun" with it.

The best combo i found being insurable, quick, comfey and stylish is the *shudders* vauxhall astra coupe 1.8 which can be modded to high holey hell with little effort dont get me wrong i LOVE ford to me vauxhalls are cack just happen to have a soft spot for the coupe's lol.

On the leaking roof's i have worked at ford and seen cc's come in by the transporter load and come straight back with leaking roof's. Also dont they do a 1.6 cc because if the 2.0 is slow what the hell would that be like.

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Posted 04 February 2010 - 09:09 PM

You can only get the 2.0 petrol in the CC and I believe the diesel is the same. Obviously ford aren't convinced of the power available from smaller engines too.

As for the chassis, well, the standard Focus chassis can deal with the T5 in the ST, so I would think the CC should be capable. That said, it is a tin-opener, so not sure what affect the roof down has on the rest of the chassis.

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Posted 04 February 2010 - 09:15 PM

You can only get the 2.0 petrol in the CC and I believe the diesel is the same. Obviously ford aren't convinced of the power available from smaller engines too.

As for the chassis, well, the standard Focus chassis can deal with the T5 in the ST, so I would think the CC should be capable. That said, it is a tin-opener, so not sure what affect the roof down has on the rest of the chassis.


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Found a 1.6 cc :P muahaha. Thats what i mean with the top of surley itl flex with all that power running through it i know the older saab 9-3 convertables and the c70 volvo were bad for it

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