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#1 arnie_omagh

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Posted 18 February 2010 - 08:35 PM

i have a 1.6 16v focus and already have a 4 2 1 manifold, straight though exhaust with de cat and back box.
i was wondering is there anything else i could do for more power?

Cams?
Webers?

Would sort of cost and power gain would any more modifaictions be?

any info apreciated

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Posted 19 February 2010 - 10:37 AM

i have a 1.6 16v focus and already have a 4 2 1 manifold, straight though exhaust with de cat and back box.
i was wondering is there anything else i could do for more power?

Cams?
Webers?

Would sort of cost and power gain would any more modifaictions be?

any info apreciated


Enclosed inductions set up correctly with a good air feed might get you a couple of bhp, once youve finished modding try a remap to iron things out abit more. For key engine parts try this http://www.pumaspeed.co.uk/xindex.php they cost a mint but its top quality engine guts.

What about a turbo kit? be expensive and im not sure if they even exsist for the 1.6 but worth a look if your after serious gains.

Also what about stripping the interior out removing backseats etc all thats free and reduices weight massivley.

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Posted 19 February 2010 - 05:05 PM

could start with these.stil no bids yet so if your lucky you might get them cheap http://cgi.ebay.co.u...1QQcmdZViewItem

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Posted 19 February 2010 - 06:49 PM

could start with these.stil no bids yet so if your lucky you might get them cheap http://cgi.ebay.co.u...1QQcmdZViewItem



if youre serious a bigger engine youll spend a lot for not a lot of power for what youll spend on cams etc youde get a bigger engine out the box with more power than all that can make together

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Posted 19 February 2010 - 06:58 PM

if youre serious a bigger engine youll spend a lot for not a lot of power for what youll spend on cams etc youde get a bigger engine out the box with more power than all that can make together


Art whats the biggest engine u can genuinally fit into a focus ive seen the yanks fitting v8's in them but that required a s**t load of cash structural reworking new chassis etc so sod that but i was thinking along the lines of mk2 mondey v6's etc

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Posted 19 February 2010 - 07:24 PM

Art whats the biggest engine u can genuinally fit into a focus ive seen the yanks fitting v8's in them but that required a s**t load of cash structural reworking new chassis etc so sod that but i was thinking along the lines of mk2 mondey v6's etc

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you can go A as bg as you want if you have the cash chevvy v8s and hot rod engines even mustang engines but for real power a zetec e unit in 1.8 format can be tuned to 150 bhp before going into turbos 130 is a case of remap 130bhp ecu and rs1800 cams a 2.olitre can go with a couple of grand to 200bhp the zetec se engines from say a racing puma 150bhp a duratec with some cash can go to 300bhp americans always go big but with big is heavy the yanks have failed to understand anything very few yank motors can go round a bend sometimes smaller is better had a shot of a hyundai 2.0litre coupe today all i can say is amazing car loved it definately have one of them without thinking about it but you can go as big as you want wether it works without overheatings a different story biggest ive seen was a mustang engine with 500bhp into a focus but it was a 35,000 us dollars job and it doesnt say if it overheated or was fine to drive

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Posted 19 February 2010 - 07:51 PM

you can go A as bg as you want if you have the cash chevvy v8s and hot rod engines even mustang engines but for real power a zetec e unit in 1.8 format can be tuned to 150 bhp before going into turbos 130 is a case of remap 130bhp ecu and rs1800 cams a 2.olitre can go with a couple of grand to 200bhp the zetec se engines from say a racing puma 150bhp a duratec with some cash can go to 300bhp americans always go big but with big is heavy the yanks have failed to understand anything very few yank motors can go round a bend sometimes smaller is better had a shot of a hyundai 2.0litre coupe today all i can say is amazing car loved it definately have one of them without thinking about it but you can go as big as you want wether it works without overheatings a different story biggest ive seen was a mustang engine with 500bhp into a focus but it was a 35,000 us dollars job and it doesnt say if it overheated or was fine to drive


I've seen 1.8 turbo conversions nocking around the internet and the idea has sparked a few thoughts and it seems like something id quite like to do lol. Seen supercharged 1.8's aswell think id prefer one of those but the kit is about 3grand for the "stage 3" :P the hyundai coupes are nice cars just a guy up my street owned one and he was a convicted pedo so that kinda scared that car good and proper.

If you youtube v8 focus youll see the kinda things im on about but i think on our streets with the police youd get about 30ft down the road before your pulled on a good day.

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Posted 19 February 2010 - 08:08 PM

I've seen 1.8 turbo conversions nocking around the internet and the idea has sparked a few thoughts and it seems like something id quite like to do lol. Seen supercharged 1.8's aswell think id prefer one of those but the kit is about 3grand for the "stage 3" Posted Image the hyundai coupes are nice cars just a guy up my street owned one and he was a convicted pedo so that kinda scared that car good and proper.

If you youtube v8 focus youll see the kinda things im on about but i think on our streets with the police youd get about 30ft down the road before your pulled on a good day.

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the turbo convrsions suffer on mid range it can be done but afetr driveng a few i wouldnt do it the engines dont like it much either the bmainb bearings need upgraded and it can all be costly whacking in an st engines the easiest way to go

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Posted 19 February 2010 - 08:19 PM

the turbo convrsions suffer on mid range it can be done but afetr driveng a few i wouldnt do it the engines dont like it much either the bmainb bearings need upgraded and it can all be costly whacking in an st engines the easiest way to go


Yeah but a st170 can only do 0-60 in 7.9secs which is at best luke warm if it was me id be aiming for 6-7secs from a modded focus so the only way i can see is a mondey engine or a tuning kit etc

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Posted 19 February 2010 - 11:03 PM

Yeah but a st170 can only do 0-60 in 7.9secs which is at best luke warm if it was me id be aiming for 6-7secs from a modded focus so the only way i can see is a mondey engine or a tuning kit etc

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the mndeo engines ie v6 were not strong engines ive ionly seen 2 and both were seriously bust if im honest if its hot hatches then really were talking about real power vw turbo and supercharged cars are great for tuning big torque great power the hyundai i mentioned in v6 form with the tuning kit from hyundai there own kit makes a serious car fords really apart from the 220 etc have never been hot hatches even the old xr2 xr3 in there time were good but now they are just old it would be interesting as to just what other engines could easily fit the focus

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Posted 19 February 2010 - 11:10 PM

the mndeo engines ie v6 were not strong engines ive ionly seen 2 and both were seriously bust if im honest if its hot hatches then really were talking about real power vw turbo and supercharged cars are great for tuning big torque great power the hyundai i mentioned in v6 form with the tuning kit from hyundai there own kit makes a serious car fords really apart from the 220 etc have never been hot hatches even the old xr2 xr3 in there time were good but now they are just old it would be interesting as to just what other engines could easily fit the focus


sorry if its already been mentioned, what about a focus rs conversion? 2.0 turbo?

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Posted 19 February 2010 - 11:20 PM

sorry if its already been mentioned, what about a focus rs conversion? 2.0 turbo?


You got a spare 5 grand stef123 :P jokes! thats not a bad idea in truth just as big a job as fitting a bigger engine or doing cams etc id of thought.

Artscot ive seen a subaru sti engine conversion in a focus before and that absoutly flew although it was rumored to cost well into the couble figures lol.

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Posted 19 February 2010 - 11:44 PM

You got a spare 5 grand stef123 Posted Image jokes! thats not a bad idea in truth just as big a job as fitting a bigger engine or doing cams etc id of thought.

Artscot ive seen a subaru sti engine conversion in a focus before and that absoutly flew although it was rumored to cost well into the couble figures lol.

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i wouldnt waste the cash if i had it ide just buy a faster car i know they want to be different but really ive seen guys spend 20grand on there focus and in the end it aint worth near that you could go out with a few grand and buy an old nissan fiat turbo etc etc yeash there old but they are fast and it wont cost 20 grand

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Posted 19 February 2010 - 11:48 PM

I've seen 1.8 turbo conversions nocking around the internet and the idea has sparked a few thoughts and it seems like something id quite like to do lol. Seen supercharged 1.8's aswell think id prefer one of those but the kit is about 3grand for the "stage 3" :P the hyundai coupes are nice cars just a guy up my street owned one and he was a convicted pedo so that kinda scared that car good and proper.

If you youtube v8 focus youll see the kinda things im on about but i think on our streets with the police youd get about 30ft down the road before your pulled on a good day.

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wow this is heading from tuning a 1.6 to a pedo how did that happen :lol:

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Posted 19 February 2010 - 11:49 PM

wow this is heading from tuning a 1.6 to a pedo how did that happen :lol:


Yeahhh welll lmao ..... add a bit of varity in there

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