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#1 paramaniac

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Posted 18 August 2010 - 06:56 PM

Recently I've noticed an error and warning light appearing on my dash which reads "Assited steering failure". However the steering felt fine on every ocassion and I drove off normally. After a couple of seconds, the light and error went away. On full steering wheel lock whilst manouvering, I can also hear a slight whining noise.

Last night I started the car up and the same light and error was flashing on and off. At the same time I could hear and feel a knocking through the steering wheel which was in time with the light flashing. The steering was definitely not power assisted and was pretty much locked up. I turned off the ignition and restarted the car and the error/light were gone and the steering was normal.

I've read a couple of posts about the power steering pump becoming knackered and wondered if this was a likely culprit? Or could it be more?

Any info or experiences would be much appreciated.

Alex.

PS: It's a 2006 MK2 Focus 1.8 TDCI Zetec

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Posted 18 August 2010 - 07:01 PM

Recently I've noticed an error and warning light appearing on my dash which reads "Assited steering failure". However the steering felt fine on every ocassion and I drove off normally. After a couple of seconds, the light and error went away. On full steering wheel lock whilst manouvering, I can also hear a slight whining noise.

Last night I started the car up and the same light and error was flashing on and off. At the same time I could hear and feel a knocking through the steering wheel which was in time with the light flashing. The steering was definitely not power assisted and was pretty much locked up. I turned off the ignition and restarted the car and the error/light were gone and the steering was normal.

I've read a couple of posts about the power steering pump becoming knackered and wondered if this was a likely culprit? Or could it be more?

Any info or experiences would be much appreciated.

Alex.


IIRC its electric power steering your car has? i.e, there is no power steering fluid resevoir?

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Posted 18 August 2010 - 07:13 PM

(It's a fairly new vehicle for me so please pardon my ignorance!)

Yes just checked and their is no power steering fluid reservoir. The one I thought it was, is actually for brake/clutch fluid.

I take it that being an electric power steering system, there is no PAS Pump?

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Posted 18 August 2010 - 07:17 PM

(It's a fairly new vehicle for me so please pardon my ignorance!)

Yes just checked and their is no power steering fluid reservoir. The one I thought it was, is actually for brake/clutch fluid.

I take it that being an electric power steering system, there is no PAS Pump?


no PAS pump but there will be an electric motor to assist the steering column/rack (not sure where it is tbh)

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Posted 18 August 2010 - 07:17 PM

There is a power steering reservoir on the mk2 focus. It went on one of ours last year. Keep checking the level of the power steering fluid level each you use the car and check for any leaks from the hose underneath. There was a burning electrical type smell in the car when this happened to ours and fluid all over the timing belt cover along with the gurgling type noise from the power steering pump. It will need a new power steering hose and clasp fitting to put right. There's a modified one available from ford when they where made aware of this fault.

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Posted 18 August 2010 - 07:19 PM

There is a power steering reservoir on the mk2 focus. It went on one of ours last year. Keep checking the level of the power steering fluid level each you use the car and check for any leaks from the hose underneath. There was a burning electrical type smell in the car when this happened to ours and fluid all over the timing belt cover along with the gurgling type noise from the power steering pump. It will need a new power steering hose and clasp fitting to put right. There's a modified one available from ford when they where made aware of this fault.


yes there is, on the petrol variants

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Posted 18 August 2010 - 07:22 PM

OK, so still likely to be an EPS system. I'm going to find out how much these motors cost.... gulp....

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Posted 18 August 2010 - 07:26 PM

OK, so still likely to be an EPS system. I'm going to find out how much these motors cost.... gulp....


ouch, going by second hand ones on ebay they are not cheap. EPS motors

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Posted 18 August 2010 - 07:28 PM

O/T for a second, i would love to be sad enough to spend the time disagreeing with every one of my posts on this thread but i would much rather try and help someone out..
a slight error is hardly the end of the world now is it? to some it is i guess

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Posted 18 August 2010 - 07:29 PM

im my experience it could be one of two things , 1 wich happened on my dads 2009 focus was about 1 times out of 9 the steering light came on ( and the steering went rock solid) but the steering fluid and pump was fine its was just a fault with the electronics , it went into ford and got plugged in and reset or reprogramed.
or it could be what happened on my cousins 2006 focus a complete falure of the pump due to the pipes leaking steerring fluid and the pump over heated and seizing, and it needed a brand new system , so please check ur power steering fluid, ur car does have it as the steering is half hydralic and half eletric.
also my cousins car has always whined and squeled on full lock since the day he got it we got told thats normall :)

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Posted 18 August 2010 - 07:30 PM

I've not really found any results for EPS motors. I just keep finding PAS pumps. I've come to the conclusion that the electric motor is actually built into the steering rack. See this link.

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Posted 18 August 2010 - 07:34 PM

There is a power steering reservoir on the mk2 focus. It went on one of ours last year. Keep checking the level of the power steering fluid level each you use the car and check for any leaks from the hose underneath. There was a burning electrical type smell in the car when this happened to ours and fluid all over the timing belt cover along with the gurgling type noise from the power steering pump. It will need a new power steering hose and clasp fitting to put right. There's a modified one available from ford when they where made aware of this fault.

yup that to the letter is exactly wat happened to my cousins mk 2 focus and when we lifted the bonnet there was smoke everywhere, his whole engine bag was covered in fluid !!!

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Posted 18 August 2010 - 07:37 PM

yup that to the letter is exactly wat happened to my cousins mk 2 focus and when we lifted the bonnet there was smoke everywhere, his whole engine bag was covered in fluid !!!


Were these petrol versions though? I can't find a steering fluid reservoir on mine which is a diesel. Where should it be situated if it has one?

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Posted 18 August 2010 - 07:41 PM

i have only heard of hydraulic failures on the petrol models, hence why i thought the diesel was just an electric motor assisted type.
my brother who has a mk2 1.6 petrol has suffered the usual pipe/pump failure on his, covering the engine bay and half the road under his car in fluid.

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Posted 18 August 2010 - 07:52 PM

Were these petrol versions though? I can't find a steering fluid reservoir on mine which is a diesel. Where should it be situated if it has one?

i have been looking on google for a pic but cant find one , but yes it was a 1.6 tivct , can u change your steering i.e sport normall comfort ??

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