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#1 Scoby

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Posted 22 September 2010 - 10:11 AM

Please forgive me if this has been asked before, i am new here and couldn't find anything.

I recently had to give up my beloved ST170 for my current 1.6 Zetec 05 Focus climate, but i'm missing the power and looking into tuning. The dealer stats say my car develops 115bhp from it's puny engine, does this mean it is the 1.6 Zetec SE Ti-VCT with variable cam timing? or is it just plain SE? i have looked on the internet and can't find a definite answer, can anyone help? Thanks in advance.

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Posted 22 September 2010 - 10:49 AM

Please forgive me if this has been asked before, i am new here and couldn't find anything.

I recently had to give up my beloved ST170 for my current 1.6 Zetec 05 Focus climate, but i'm missing the power and looking into tuning. The dealer stats say my car develops 115bhp from it's puny engine, does this mean it is the 1.6 Zetec SE Ti-VCT with variable cam timing? or is it just plain SE? i have looked on the internet and can't find a definite answer, can anyone help? Thanks in advance.

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put youre reg in here and it will give you the answer http://www.etis.ford...323D18.dulv1366

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Posted 22 September 2010 - 11:03 AM

put youre reg in here and it will give you the answer http://www.etis.ford...323D18.dulv1366


Thanks mate, had no joy, it says no information found, which is rather worrying, i bought it from a ford dealer but i know the manager to be a tad dodgy as i worked with him years ago, it did cross my mind that he may have sold me a 100hp version and just printed off information to get the sell. or i could just be paranoid lol.

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Posted 22 September 2010 - 01:42 PM

Thanks mate, had no joy, it says no information found, which is rather worrying, i bought it from a ford dealer but i know the manager to be a tad dodgy as i worked with him years ago, it did cross my mind that he may have sold me a 100hp version and just printed off information to get the sell. or i could just be paranoid lol.


if the cars registered it should be available on ford etis all ford s are it would tell you when it was made at the factory the date it was registered and paint code engine and engine code etc ide be worried too if its not coming up best bet call a ford dealer give them the reg and see if they can find it all i get is this
1596 cc
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10.5 s
113 bhp
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155 Nm 114 lb-ft
118 mph

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Posted 22 September 2010 - 02:24 PM

Hi Scoby

I can help on this one my wife has the same car if it is the 1.6 115bhp TI-VCT engine then you can tell by looking under the hood. Looking at the rocker cover you will see two cam position sensors on the left hand side (on drivers side) one for each cam, then on the far right hand side at the end of the rocker cover you will also see two receiving sensors, all 4 sensors have multi plugs on them and you should see them all clearly. These sensors are responsible for advancing the timing hence TI-VCT and determining the exact position of each cam at any given time so the correct amount of advance or !Removed! can be made by the ECU. If you don't see these 4 sensors then its the 100 bhp engine you have and not the 115 TI-VCT, this is the only way visually of knowing. Don't be to worried about the performance unless its really bad as they don't feel quick at all by there very nature i thought the same about my wife's car, its got a lot to do with the power to weight ratio and either engine has not got a lot of torque really. Hope this info helps, let me know what you find.

PS: Just a bit of info, the Zetec SE was replaced with the Duratec engine range sometime in 2005.

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Posted 22 September 2010 - 03:59 PM

Thanks for the info guys! i think the reason my car isn't coming up on the ford search is because you need certain things to run it and my macbook may not have them, that's what i'm hoping anyway!
I know the car is slow, i am planning a swap for a 2 litre duratec, or a remap, cams, exhaust and perhaps throttle bodies. I just wanted to make sure it is the actual VCT i have before i do anything, my end goal is a reliable, bulletproof 200 hp range so the 2 litre may be the way to go, i have 10K loan to spend on it, have considered an ST but the sleeper looks and something different is really appealing. If it turns out to be the 100, i'll go through that dealership like a ton of bricks!! Man i miss my ST170!!

Talking about the Duratec, i know my ST was badged as Duratec, but was actually a Zetec, how do you know for sure if it's a Duratec? my focus says Zetec on the back, but i think that's the trim?

Oh, my car is a march 05 so it should be the Zetec. If it is the Duratec, will it still have the sensors on either side of the cam covers?

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Posted 22 September 2010 - 04:21 PM

Yeah the Zetec on the back of the tail gate is the trim level nothing else, the engine zetec,duratec are confusing i agree. Yes if its the 115 bhp unit it has to have these sensors i mentioned earlier on either end of both cams weather its a zetec or a duratec unit, if there not there i am 100% certain its not a TI-VCT unit.

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Posted 22 September 2010 - 07:35 PM

Questions answered, thanks Ross! it is indeed the VCT.

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Posted 22 September 2010 - 07:48 PM

Hi scoby

No probs, glad to have helped :)

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Posted 22 September 2010 - 08:49 PM

Hi scoby

No probs, glad to have helped :)


10k on the focus? personally no way ide get a far more reliable engine to up the power on like a toyota or honda etc youll get 200bhp from it but would i cant say i would to be honest the mk2 isnt thqat bulletproof to sink the cash into but youre choice mate http://www.burtonpow...duratec_he.aspx these guys know there stuff

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Posted 23 September 2010 - 06:02 AM

Thanks artscot, my first car was a civic, and i had nothing but grief from it, had the engine rebuilt and everything but the over-revving, to redline still persisted when at the lights, spent a fortune on it, until finally it came down to a faulty thermostat, left a very bad taste in my mouth, plus type Rs are common as muck in Scotland, as you probably know, and i'm a ford man to be honest, as my dad was, he shat a brick when i brought a honda home lol, he had a mk1 RS1600i when i was a kid, since then he's had capri 2.8s and a three door cosworth, sold the cossie when i was 15, never forgave him for that lol.

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Posted 23 September 2010 - 09:28 AM

If i had 10k to blow on my car id not even look at a focus tbh lol id get something like this http://www.pistonhea...les/2087649.htm

Yes its a volvo but its the perfect sleeper weapon + people will think ur a copper and get outta ur way muahahah also its a volvo so chances are itl never go wrong that particular one is running about 348bhp so thats 300+bhp of sveeewish reliablenes yah :P .

You must of bought the one faulty honda make every 10yrs we had an accord 2.4 type-s it was naff UNTIL you reved the f*** of it and my god it shot of only downside was the handling was twitchy where as the st220 we got to replace it feels alot more planted.

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Posted 23 September 2010 - 02:01 PM

If i had 10k to blow on my car id not even look at a focus tbh lol id get something like this http://www.pistonhea...les/2087649.htm

Yes its a volvo but its the perfect sleeper weapon + people will think ur a copper and get outta ur way muahahah also its a volvo so chances are itl never go wrong that particular one is running about 348bhp so thats 300+bhp of sveeewish reliablenes yah :P .

You must of bought the one faulty honda make every 10yrs we had an accord 2.4 type-s it was naff UNTIL you reved the f*** of it and my god it shot of only downside was the handling was twitchy where as the st220 we got to replace it feels alot more planted.


admittedly the volvo does make the perfect sleeper the traffic cops use them well souoed up so you know they can take it and handle the miles well have to admit never seen a focus traffic car and it is a ford underneath just better built. the civics are very common i agree mind you saying that a capri sleeper car now theres a thought my old man had a blck 2.8 laser when i was young with the leather bucket seats in it always loved that bonnet with the scoop on it if i could afford it ide have one in a heart beat an old capri with a modern burton power built engine 300bhp the fun.strange to think that at one point you could pick these cars up for pennies now they are worth as much as a brand new modern car i do remember my old man sold the capri as 2 parts he got 600 for the body and more for the engine but that was back in the day when his mate could take any car and tune it

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Posted 23 September 2010 - 04:21 PM

http://www.pumaspeed...ID=3&modelID=20

If ur still determind to mod your mk2 have a look on there thay do all sorts also plenty of contact numbers for them so give them a ring and nag them for parts other than that engine drop time i think :P

Art yeah its mad how a cossie costs as much as a st225 focus for eg but which would u prefer? lol

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Posted 23 September 2010 - 05:58 PM

http://www.pumaspeed...ID=3&modelID=20

If ur still determind to mod your mk2 have a look on there thay do all sorts also plenty of contact numbers for them so give them a ring and nag them for parts other than that engine drop time i think :P

Art yeah its mad how a cossie costs as much as a st225 focus for eg but which would u prefer? lol


im a purist when it comes to old cars so for me it would be an original 1893 ford capri gloss black with the black and grey bucket seats the old style k and n filter screwed on the throttle body as origianal as possible ill always have a soft spot for that car and looking at pics they still have the look as close to a mustang as you can get really im not a fan of the cosworth or the brooklands capri i like them as they would have been sitting in the showroom unmolested you could say.

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