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#1 Nico.

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Posted 31 January 2011 - 08:16 PM

i asked this a few times... but this time a few easy questions (i hope)

how much? (plus the under seat sub)
how much plus fitting???
how?
where?


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Posted 31 January 2011 - 08:45 PM

120 from Ford for front speakers and adapters. The fronts can be fitted in under an hour. The rears are more complicated to fit and probably wouldnt make much difference to the sound quality. Not too sure about the sub.

I fitted the front speakers and the sound quality is definetely better!

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Posted 31 January 2011 - 09:56 PM

I was wondering and if anyone can tell me... would it be better to get sony head unit (the one that is standard in titanium nowdays) or fit amplifier instead?

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Posted 01 February 2011 - 12:06 AM

I would say your better off with a 6 channel amp or something along those lines.

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Posted 01 February 2011 - 12:22 AM

a Cleansweep and Amp...no point having an Amp without flattening the sound out form teh stock HU.

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Posted 01 February 2011 - 12:44 AM

nice one (y) i just need a better sound at higher end... not saying i a chav that bangs music out loud everywhere... but i just want a better sound about 15 - 20 :)

and as for amps where would you mount it???

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Posted 01 February 2011 - 12:19 PM

nice one (y) i just need a better sound at higher end... not saying i a chav that bangs music out loud everywhere... but i just want a better sound about 15 - 20 :)

and as for amps where would you mount it???


Amps are usually always but into teh boot, in most cases for normal users the amp will be screwed into one of the metal rear seat backs you see from the boot, usually to teh left (same side as the battery in the engine, easier to wire), then the wires should discretly tuck down into the surrounding carpets.

Ill say it again tho..I wouldnt consider an Amp without a CleanSweep filter...would sound pretty terrible coing from the standard HU.

Same reason I woulnt use teh Pioneers TBH, they are still running from the stock HU it came with, doesnt matter what speakers are at the other end...any upgarde money they ask for I would sink into a proper install.

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Posted 01 February 2011 - 12:59 PM

a Cleansweep and Amp...no point having an Amp without flattening the sound out form teh stock HU.

Good tip from strutter here.

I have watched demonstations on youtube of that Cleansweep you mentioned. Impressive stuff i must say. Are there any alternatives to this as its very hard to get in the uk?

I think i would do this in order:
Better front speakers,
Better rear speakers,
Cleansweep with amp or sony head unit from scrapyard (i would also buy amp if the sound wouldnt be good enough)
Subwoofer

Last question. Wouldnt be good idea to mount amp under passanger's seat?

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Posted 01 February 2011 - 01:33 PM

What are the model numbers of the pioneer speakers? as ive seen a few people mention them and everyones model numbers are different.

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Posted 01 February 2011 - 02:14 PM

i just want the speakers to come out with a better sound when ya turn them up abit! i dont want fat bass and all that i just want better sound on the higher end of the volume :)... would the sony HU make much difference??? and if anyone can think of a better (preferably cheaper way) of stopping the power fading i would be forever in ya debt!


and as for the amp... dont ya think running one to the boot is abit much?? i not interested in a sub in the boot at all

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Posted 01 February 2011 - 02:38 PM

Good tip from strutter here.

I have watched demonstations on youtube of that Cleansweep you mentioned. Impressive stuff i must say. Are there any alternatives to this as its very hard to get in the uk?

I think i would do this in order:
Better front speakers,
Better rear speakers,
Cleansweep with amp or sony head unit from scrapyard (i would also buy amp if the sound wouldnt be good enough)
Subwoofer

Last question. Wouldnt be good idea to mount amp under passanger's seat?


Its very easy to get the in the Uk really..MTX do a good Budget- midrange
Better fronts, and replace the tweeters in the door handles as well!..these are prob the worst part of teh whole setup in the fords, extremely tinny
Dont bother with rear speakers, ya dont turn your back to the stage when yrou at a concert so dont set your car up inthe same way!
Mtx Cleansweep the 4 channel amp..2 channels for the fronts, the you can "bridge" the remaing to power a small sub in the boot.

If ya have the money you can put an Amp anywhyere you want, but putting it in the boot is best..can be earth easily..all the cables can be ran down the side of the car (as said battery side on the fiesta to make installation easy/ cheaper) earthing etc.

Honestly..doing anything but this is throwing money away for diminished or worse returns, im happy to just use the factory setup till I get the full install done in a few months.

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Posted 01 February 2011 - 02:43 PM

i just want the speakers to come out with a better sound when ya turn them up abit! i dont want fat bass and all that i just want better sound on the higher end of the volume :)... would the sony HU make much difference??? and if anyone can think of a better (preferably cheaper way) of stopping the power fading i would be forever in ya debt!


and as for the amp... dont ya think running one to the boot is abit much?? i not interested in a sub in the boot at all


The Sony unit is "marginally better" after trying one out, the pioneers are in no way unique to ford and are jsut based on their entry level speaks on the market rebranded.

All the Ford/ Sony units suffer the same problem, levelling the sound when you push it from 13 Vol up it will level the bass off, but its not a good way of doing things...as when that happens the Mid sounds are completely killed off, and I mean worse that what you got in the older fiestas, completely awful, vocals are out the window!

Does not matter what speakers you have connected at the other end..the root problem is always going to be evident. And for the money you are thinking of spending..save longer and do it right...and you will never regret it.

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Posted 01 February 2011 - 02:58 PM

The Sony unit is "marginally better" after trying one out, the pioneers are in no way unique to ford and are jsut based on their entry level speaks on the market rebranded.

All the Ford/ Sony units suffer the same problem, levelling the sound when you push it from 13 Vol up it will level the bass off, but its not a good way of doing things...as when that happens the Mid sounds are completely killed off, and I mean worse that what you got in the older fiestas, completely awful, vocals are out the window!

Does not matter what speakers you have connected at the other end..the root problem is always going to be evident. And for the money you are thinking of spending..save longer and do it right...and you will never regret it.



hmm i just looking at how to go about it atm so i think i will be waiting abit :)

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Posted 01 February 2011 - 03:07 PM

Im not trying to scare ya off or anything lol, if ya think the speakers will help dont listen to me and go buy them!
But in all honesty for the price Ford ask for them, fitting etc for very little returns....if ya wait and get sommin along the lines I posted..when ya get in and hear the first 3 chords of a track playing thru you wont regret it.

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Posted 01 February 2011 - 03:32 PM

sounds like a good advice. Im starting to save money now.

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