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#16 mross

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Posted 25 March 2011 - 04:53 AM

Hi Jeebowhite

Thanks for your advice and info at the start of this thread, to be honest if you hadn't have said what you did which prompted me to think on i probably would have gone for a remap at nearly three times the price i paid, don't get me wrong im not knocking remaps it just so happened that one of these boxes was the best option for me, so thanks again mate.

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Posted 25 March 2011 - 09:12 AM

Glad I could help. Its good to see I have the ocassional nugget of useful information ;)

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Posted 21 April 2011 - 01:50 PM

Hi I'd just like to add my Tuning box experience. I own an 07 Fusion 1.6 TDCI but wanted more power thought of a remap but was too expensive so I purchased a box from ebay, called a Drake Box2.
The box gives 10 settings ranging from mild increase to insane!!

0 - alters the top end torque only
1 - 7 over all increase in power and fuel economy
8 - 9 power over economy massive increase in power, fuel economy less than original, but WOW!!

On setting 9, my 1.6 diesel torque steers, yes thats right torque steers. I can out pull a standard 2.2 TDCI mondeo ST.
Ford Power increase tables from Drake Tuning

In-case your wondering if those levels have had a detrimental effect on the engine, well Ive been running the box for nearly two years now and frankly the engine has been totally trouble free. Every service it comes backs no problem and the emissions tests are also normal even on the higher settings.

They also do as an optional extra a wireless key fob to turn the box on and off remotely.

here's the links Main website
Power increase tables

hope that helps

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Posted 26 April 2011 - 07:03 AM

I have heard bad things about Drake, so it seems you had a good box, as far as I am aware though, drake are based in Italy. Someone I know of who has dealt with them had major problems, ranging from a faulty product that kept knocking out the engine, to less than poor communication from the Customer Service.

On the other hand, DTUK I have heard nothing but good things for!

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Posted 26 April 2011 - 03:38 PM

the way insurance is going through the roof, sometimes it makes you wonder if the extra premium for the box is worth it.

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Posted 26 April 2011 - 06:37 PM

hi i have the celtic tuneing emotion box for my focus 1.6 tdci and its very good gone from 110 bhp to 148 bhp its a remap progream on a box cost me 395 and can remove it when i want and can use the box as a code reader and found a coupple of codes that the dash bord trick didnt i would recomend it to any one and they do it next day delivery and there customer service is very good p.s got the economy map but car is alot faster ;)

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Posted 26 April 2011 - 08:22 PM

I have heard bad things about Drake, so it seems you had a good box, as far as I am aware though, drake are based in Italy. Someone I know of who has dealt with them had major problems, ranging from a faulty product that kept knocking out the engine, to less than poor communication from the Customer Service.

On the other hand, DTUK I have heard nothing but good things for!


I guess its all down to experience with any product. I have had NO trouble at all, I am very pleased with it. I can't comment on the customer service but their instructions to fit were good.

Ill keep people posted with any thing that crops up

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Posted 27 April 2011 - 07:12 AM

mintalkin, insurance goes up anyway, and some people have only been quoted an additional 10 to the premium price to notify the insurer that they are using a tune box, some deals could be worth it. others though, may charge through the roof for it, then you are definately right, and its not worth the hassle.

Brian, sounds like a good piece of kit. I do miss diesel purely for the fact I cant whack a tune box on my car, but your kit as a combined code reader is a brilliant idea!

d_der, it could well be that the person I know was a one off victim to the companies bad week!

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Posted 27 April 2011 - 02:26 PM

Anyone had any experience with petrol tuning boxes? There seem to be a couple on the market, in particular: http://www.powertuning.cc/page.php?16

And do Celtic Tuning do an eMotion box for petrols?

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Posted 27 April 2011 - 03:19 PM

If I read correctly, arent they selling only to the trade? shame if you just want one, and no one near or far who is selling them!

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 04:52 PM

I am interested in this easy tuning. Have you installed the power box yourself?

 

I do have Focus 1.6 TDCi 90hp and found  that the common rail sensor is quite in a tricky place behind the engine.

 

Would be happy to hear about your installation experience.



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Posted 01 March 2013 - 05:21 PM

welcome along!

 

I personally havent installed one, come to think of it, dont think I have even looked for the port for that matter, might have to take a look at some point.

 

Have a look here : http://vtechtuning.e...structions.html

 

they seem to have some excamples of how to install it!



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Posted 02 March 2013 - 06:59 PM

Thanks, I checked out that site.

 

Unfortunately the photo gives just an idea where to start searching.

The sensor plug is behind the engine about 12 inches down from the top and not visible if you look ablove.

 

I would be happy to hear if there is some trick how to plug off the connector (without removing battery + battery case)

 

Will keep on trying ;)



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Posted 02 March 2013 - 07:23 PM

Strange none of them gaurantee they wont damage the engine ..from what i know from the vw there are safety parameters built into the ecu these are over done a remap unlocks this extra power safely keeping within manufacturers tolerances so no extra stress or wear, a tuning box simply removes these tolerances altogether stating the ecu will take over to prevent damage however if the ecu doesnt even recognise the extra fuelling how would it know? doing this increases wear and stress .

the general rule was as you say get a reputable manufacturer but even they make no formal gaurantee also the mpg isnt correct the ecu doesnt recognise the extra fuel so thats not calculated in the mpg.. dyno tests on the seat and vw forums show they dont dyno anywhere near the claimed amount stated but are quicker and smoother tdi tuning like others use cheap analogue boxes really a proper digital one would be better and its possible to tell if youve had one plugged in so its up to the individual you get cheap power some have used them for years with no issues others no end of issues so its a risk

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 07:23 PM

Strange none of them gaurantee they wont damage the engine from what i know from the vw there are safety parameters built into the ecu these are over done a remap unlocks this power safely keeping within manufacturers tolerances so no extra stress or wear a tuning box simply removes these tolerances altogether stating the ecu will take over to prevent damage however doing this increases wear and stress the general rule was as you say get a reputable manufacturer but even they make no formal gaurantee also the mpg isnt correct the ecu doesnt recognise the extra fuel so thats not calculated in the mpg dyno tests on the seat and vw forums show they dont dyno anywhere near the claimed amount stated but are quicker tdi tuning use cheap analogue boxes really a proper digital one would be better and its possible to tell if youve had one plugged in so its up to the individual you get cheap power some have used them for years with no issues others no end of issues so its a risk

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