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#61 catch

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Posted 26 September 2011 - 12:28 AM

Jeebs, are we due a six month ownership update?

I had a look in at Burnley Motorpoint car supermarket Sunday. I always lose an hour and a half having a good look around, when her indoors says.......I'm off to Boundary Mill fancy coming? No but I will drive you over the border if you want, but I'd go spare trailing around a superstore. Fine by me she says, I don't want you wittering me to hurry up, so we are both happy :rolleyes:

Anyway whilst there I saw a nice specimen of a Ceed, same colour as your on a 10 plate. And now the new Mk3 boot size has been cut down, I might be tempted to try out a Kia Ceed if the alternative was to be a Focus petrol 125bhp petrol jobbie, two or three years old. Like you say the Seven year warranty and reasonable pricing on a nimble motor like yours, has to be considered I reckon.

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Posted 26 September 2011 - 12:50 PM

Hi Catch,

Well I have been meaning to put an update, as boring as it may be! keeping busy with family and work, all of them expect me to do something somewhere, how dare they take my forum time away from me!! lol

Well So far so good, 6 months later, car has racked up an additional 7500 miles since I bought it, and still - not a whisper. - ok I fib...

a short while ago I reversed my car, ended up clamboring over the curb and dropping the front of the car onto the top of the high kerb. No real damage, didnt actually hit the chassis, but I did manage to catch an air conditioning fin. it seems that the koreans have glued a strip of 40 or so fins together to keep the aircon cool and as a result of my bump on the ground I shook one slightly loose, and eventially I pulled it off... only minor disappointment.

Other than that, she just cost me 170 for two new tyres and an alignment, but still, not a real hitch! no noises, no cried, no whispers even. Still handles like the Focus (marginely better since the new tyres and the alignment!) however one thing I discovered the other day!!!

god knows how... but the tyres I had survived 27000 miles! no joke, the tyres where the originals, the front tyres where michelin premacy something or others, and they had lasted on the rear, and were swapped to the front. So two tyres lasted 27000 miles on the rear, and two were replaced.

Money savings are showing now, havent had to replace something else every other weekend, petrol costs are not too different to the focus, OK slighgtly more expensive due to petrol vs diesel fight, but not too bad. Otherwise, I have learned to live with the smaller boot, getting a slightly more compact buggy has helped, but overall not a bulb has blown!

So I am still very happy with the decision, and having been on the Kia forums, it seems more and more Focus owners are changing to the Cee'd and like me, many agree there is little difference. As you say (and I keep rabitting on about!) the 7 year warranty is just a fantastic offer, it gives me confidence in the car, and shows that they are trying a bit harder to please their customers.

small features on this car are a bonus, the likes of all lights switch off so you cant leave them on accidentally! (thanks kia, probably saved my bacon a few times already!) small and nimble, easy to drive, the steering is very light over the focus so makes parking it more of a please, and makes flitting between roads and lanes a real ease.

I would say that its worth taking a look at the Cee'd - granted its smaller than the focus with about 40 litres less in the boot, but the estate or "SW" version makes up for that. otherwise I would say if anyone is looking to replace the Ford take a look, they really are very good. Moons ago no one would look at a kia (myself included!) but now they really have excelled themselves... Sorry Jezza Clarkson, but the Cee'd hasnt yet bitten the dust!

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Posted 20 December 2011 - 02:33 PM

Well in the interest of anyone who cares... I thought I would update on my ownership of the Cee'd! 8 Months later, and there are a couple of niggles...

1) Reverse Gear - like the Focus had, I sometimes find that the Cee'd doesnt always engage into reverse properly first time, without argument, sometimes have to knock it out then put it back in place... it does work, and is only a minor inconvenience...
2) The Dealer!!! - had a few problems with the dealer not fulfilling the service, they didnt do a proper service, and as such (because they didnt replace my Air Filter and Spark Plugs) my MPG is now taking quite a hit! down to the average below, I used to get around 380 - 400 miles per tank... Now I only get 280 - 320... A hit that I could do without! So I am awaiting my service, where the dealer has told me they will replace these parts FOC, then I am changing dealer!

Other than that, the car still goes well, still sometimes forget that its not the Focus (maybe its just the slow nature of my brain!). I still cant praise this car enough really!

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Posted 20 December 2011 - 05:12 PM

Well in the interest of anyone who cares... I thought I would update on my ownership of the Cee'd! 8 Months later, and there are a couple of niggles...

1) Reverse Gear - like the Focus had, I sometimes find that the Cee'd doesnt always engage into reverse properly first time, without argument, sometimes have to knock it out then put it back in place... it does work, and is only a minor inconvenience...
2) The Dealer!!! - had a few problems with the dealer not fulfilling the service, they didnt do a proper service, and as such (because they didnt replace my Air Filter and Spark Plugs) my MPG is now taking quite a hit! down to the average below, I used to get around 380 - 400 miles per tank... Now I only get 280 - 320... A hit that I could do without! So I am awaiting my service, where the dealer has told me they will replace these parts FOC, then I am changing dealer!

Other than that, the car still goes well, still sometimes forget that its not the Focus (maybe its just the slow nature of my brain!). I still cant praise this car enough really!


Do you miss the torque of the diesel Jeebo?

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Posted 20 December 2011 - 05:28 PM

Still do unfortunately, The car overall makes up for it in general power (so still get a good bit of grunt higher up the revs. But I do miss the low grunt of the Turbo kicking in, and I also miss the extended miles per tank! lol

Well either way, I dont feel I am too much worse off. Overall the car is safe and sound, OK the MPG is down at present but that WILL be resolved soon (Or I will be creating a new entrance to the dealers showroom!) lol.

As I have said throughout in almost all ways its just like the Focus, Aside the Turbo Grunt, and the boot size, I quite often forget I am not in the Focus! I still dont regret my decision, however who knows what the future may bring... maybe the MK5 Focus will sort it all out for me ;) lol

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 10:26 AM

Still do unfortunately, The car overall makes up for it in general power (so still get a good bit of grunt higher up the revs. But I do miss the low grunt of the Turbo kicking in, and I also miss the extended miles per tank! lol

Well either way, I dont feel I am too much worse off. Overall the car is safe and sound, OK the MPG is down at present but that WILL be resolved soon (Or I will be creating a new entrance to the dealers showroom!) lol.

As I have said throughout in almost all ways its just like the Focus, Aside the Turbo Grunt, and the boot size, I quite often forget I am not in the Focus! I still dont regret my decision, however who knows what the future may bring... maybe the MK5 Focus will sort it all out for me ;) lol


my old man agrees he bought a ceed as well and loves it doesnt regret it though he hasnt had any dealer issues yet anyway the only car hes looking at is the new kias out now he likes the new rio

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 01:40 PM

New Rio (IMHO) is a bit tacky / plasticky inside. the 88MPG is the best selling point, however I wouldnt chop the Cee'd in for the Rio.

But Kia are doing well in the modern market, since I bought mine (I am sure there is no correlation / causation here) but I am seeing many more Cee'ds on the road. They are popular, they are good value and they are very good overall, in terms of competition to the Focus, I still stand by my opinion. Given the choice though, I would probably go with the MK 1.5 / 20.0 (however you want to see it) Ceed SW over the Focus... Having said that, I have yet to sit behind the wheel of the new Focus, and have no doubts its a good car, but my faith in the blue oval, is about as valuable as my faith in the tax man...

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 02:20 PM

OK so I am getting close to the one year later stage, and thought that as an off the cuff comment to the recent Focus MK3 price drop conversation, I thought I would post a summary of the last year...

So here it is... this is what I have bought since owning the car...
  • Petrol
  • 2 x Front tyres
  • 1x chip cover kit
The problems with the car I have had:
  • Dealer was a muppet (but then how many can say theirs arent?)
  • car needed a new wiper stalk as the switch was faulty - replaced under warranty free of charge
All in all, a fairly easy year, no troubles, no concerns, no real majot problems, and I can say quite confidently that my health would have been a lot worse, if I still had the Focus.

So, I still get into the car, I can still floor it, and feels like the Focus, it still handles very well as I found the Focus did, and I still feel like I have a lot of peace of mind (5 years warranty remaining). for the final £5k bill for this car, I cant say I have yet regretted the car - other than my one complaint... the boot is 40L smaller than the Focus, I eally miss the big boot, but I dont miss the Focus.

So what have I learned over the last year...
  • People love to laugh at the fact that my car is korean, and wind me up....
  • ....I love to laugh at them, when their 3 year old car breaks and costs them a fortune, where mine is still covered for the same part under warranty...
  • The Cee'd is flexible, parts can be bought for the hyundai i30, and for the most part, can be used on the Cee'd - still very low prices for the parts, but they are so easily and readily available
  • my car is really a "put petrol in and go" car, although I had problems with the dealer not replacing the air filter, and spark plugs, the fuel consumption dropped, with a bit of email argument, a few phonecalls to Kia Head Office, I saved myself £200.00 on the price of my major "3rd year" service, because I argued they should replace the parts... easy result, and saved a fortune
  • Car now runs efficiently again, better with Shell than supermarket petrol, but on a 1.6 Petrol, if I play nicely, I can get 380+ miles per tank (presuming the weather doesnt drop the efficiency like a stone!)
I still advise that if anyone considers buying an additional car (or if like me looking for an alternative to the new Focus) really do give consideration to the koreans. Build quality, backed up by 5 or 7 year warranty, the quality that can rest between Focus and Mondeo (depending on the variant) and it costs you less than Ford would.

Dont get me wrong, I guess I havent completely discounted Ford from any future cars, but the competitive market out there, with the koreans really picking up the pace, Ford really need to do a heck of a lot, to win back customers from their competitors.

Sitting on the Kia forums out there, I see a fair few comments coming back from ex-Focus owners, all praising the koreans.

Thats it really, a fairly uneventful year, but its been a pleasure so far, and I have the thrill back that I used to get with the Focus (before the devil spawn reared its ugly head).

I hope that this thread doesnt peeve too many people "This is a Ford forum, not a sales pitch for a competitor" I hear some say, I feel passionate about sharing information, and if I can persuade someone to make a good decision, that perhaps wouldnt have been considered, I am glad to do so.

I do still love posting here though, helping others where I can, and I hope that counter balances my thread here, and restores some faith in my "non - korean - sales pitches" as a contribution to the forum!

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 02:31 PM

ford forum it is but at the end of the day we all have to be honest wether we love fords or not.

kia and hyundai have upped there game knocking even the likes of vw off there spots and you explained why............they know there cars have to be reliable and well built hence the 7 year warranty they dont like bad press so there head office give dealers a swift kick where its needed and customers are happy faults are rectified free and swiftly and theres no lengths they wont go to to make sure thats the case .if ford could do the above they would be a winner and ide happily buy another but sadly they dont really seem to care and i think all of us can say that that statement is true.

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 02:36 PM

Final Review!

As most of you will likely be aware by now, I have passed the Cee'd onto pastures new, and returned to the creature comforts of the Ford. I needed a bigger car, and an ex cat-d came up that meant I got a fantastic buying price.

The Cee'd was a very good car, all the positives I have said about it above are still valid, however since I needed space, and I couldnt magic any real usable space up, I looked around and found the CMAX to be the better deal.

Over my two years of ownership, she started everyday, drove without a hitch and was a pleasure to drive, petrol probably averaged about 34mpg over my time with her but I was right foot heavy for the most part...

I would advise and exercise caution if you are looking to buy the car short term... The depreciation for a high mileage cee'd to sell back to any dealer is poor. even though I had 53% of the warranty remaining, the car was sold at a return of 27% the cost of its first purchase... not even three years old, and she had lost 73% of her value... so if you plan on buying a competitor to the focus, buy one, and run it into the ground! if your a light miles driver, buy one and enjoy it, but if you do a lot of miles... Strongly consider your purchase.

So, back to the blue oval, I shall be more upcoming and posting more here once again as I fell back home!

Au revoir Cee'd - Hello CMAX!

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 03:53 PM

oh god no what have you done well at least youve gave the hair time to grow back in before you start pulling it out again lol

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 04:07 PM

lol.

For a family of four, two kids two parents, a double buggy and two car seats, there really was too little space in the car to cope further. Shopping trips where difficult to say the least, and it was just a claustrophobic environment.

There is certainly more space in this one, and hopefully it will be nicer to me than the last Focus!

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