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#16 Maverick

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Posted 02 February 2009 - 09:15 AM

Hello

I am afraif that the new shape Fiesta comes with the tyre inflator kit as standard. Its all to do with Ford trying to save weight and make the car economical.

However, if you are prepared to wait then you can have the car supplied with a spare wheel and a jack, but this is factory order only and takes around 6 weeks. Thankfully though it does not cost any extra.

If you have already taken delivery of your new fiesta and it has the tyre inflator, then it is possible for you to BUY a standard steel spare wheel, have a tyre fitted to it, and also buy a jack etc from your dealer. You can then just pop these in the boot yourself in place of the inflator. The parts yiu will need are aws follows:

> steel spare wheel
> tyre (plus valve plus balancing)
> foam tray
> jack
> wheel nut spanner (if not already present)
> central threaded spindle to secure wheel to boot floor

You just then assemble the above and put them in the spare wheel well in place on the inflator kit.

I totally agree with your comments - the inflator kit is ok for minor punctures, but any gouge in the tyre wall bigger than 4mm and you will need a tow truck. This is not good.

I ordered my Zetec from the factory with a conventional spare. It took 6 weeks to arrive, but its worth it to have the peace of mind of a conventional spare wheel.

Hope this helps.

Thanks
Mav'

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#17 Nipz

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Posted 02 February 2009 - 09:18 AM

Im all for saving weight but do think they should make it more of an option because as many of you here as well didnt get told about it. I read it on the net.

I have full RAC cover so im not to fussed, ill just call them out :)

#18 Bottlethroddy

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Posted 02 February 2009 - 11:08 AM

Another thing to consider is the fact that tyre foam is notoriously harmful to the rubber. Once you use it, the tyre has to be disposed of. NO tyre shop ive ever been to will repair a tyre that has had foam pumped into it. They get quite angry about it actually!

The story about the CO2 emissions is a nice one, but IMO a load of bull. A space saver spare weighs about the same as a morning poo, and the jack and brace arnt exactly weighty. Saying adding them will push the car into another carbon bracket is pretty cheeky if you ask me! Consider how many wheels, wheelbraces and jacks they will save having to buy and its obvious its a money saving scam. Especially in the current economic climate.

If you've bought a new fiesta without the spare, go to ebay and find a space saver spare with the cars stud pattern, and a cheap wheel brace and jack. Going to the dealers will cost over twice if not 3 times that i rekon!

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Posted 03 February 2009 - 02:47 PM

The spare wheel is a No Cost Option on the New Fiesta. (I sell Fords) The salesman should have asked when you ordered if you wanted one then it would cost nothing otherwise ordering one after delivery will be about 130

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Posted 03 February 2009 - 11:29 PM

You do all realise that most new cars come with a can of tyre weld, or similar, as a space saving method!?

All you have to do is connect it to a tyre and press, hey presto, tyre is good for a few miles again!!!

Saves weight and space, as mentioned, also easier than getting dirty and changing a trye in the dark or wet!

Just thought i'd mention it seeing as so many people have no clue

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Posted 03 February 2009 - 11:30 PM

Hi guys, after owning several fiestas over the years, I'm buying a new Zetec 1.25.

Now call me old fashioned but now I've found out that I wont have a spare wheel, just a tub of gunge, and a tyre inflater, I feel like moving to a different brand of car.

I know other car makers are going this way too, but am I worrying about nothing?,should I buy a spare from Ford myself, (because I love the look of the '09 model)?

Or am I right in thinking what a ridiculous, and penny pinching idea it is not to be supplied with a spare by the manufacturer.I dont want to wait hours for a breakdown truck if the sidewall has ripped out of my tyre,I just want to be able to CHANGE THE B****Y WHEEL !!

Your thoughts please guys
Dave



Also if the sidewall has ripped out of your tyre then, unless you were going very slowly, you'd have probably crashed!

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Posted 03 February 2009 - 11:38 PM

You do all realise that most new cars come with a can of tyre weld, or similar, as a space saving method!?

All you have to do is connect it to a tyre and press, hey presto, tyre is good for a few miles again!!!

Saves weight and space, as mentioned, also easier than getting dirty and changing a trye in the dark or wet!

Just thought i'd mention it seeing as so many people have no clue


But as i mentioned on my previous post, using tyre weld effectively writes off the tyre, so when before if you used a spare you can get the puncture mended, if you use weld, you have to buy a new tyre. And if youve got a half worn tyre, your have to buy two! Not to mention what someone else mentioned that if your sidewall splits, tyre weld is useless. And you dont have to be driving in this situation either, tyres can get slashed by bored teenagers, or a jagged stone on a rough road can bugger a tyre easily enough.

A spare is far more sensible, and cheaper in the long run.

#23 Nipz

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Posted 04 February 2009 - 09:39 AM

The spare wheel is a No Cost Option on the New Fiesta. (I sell Fords) The salesman should have asked when you ordered if you wanted one then it would cost nothing otherwise ordering one after delivery will be about 130


Surely if we didnt get asked we can get one still? I still want it so i can have the choice to have it in the car or leave it at home

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Posted 05 February 2009 - 09:43 AM

Surely if we didnt get asked we can get one still? I still want it so i can have the choice to have it in the car or leave it at home

I had my Fiesta Zetec over 4 weeks when I raised subject with Ford and dealership. I was not told of option by dealership, Ford said it was up to the dealership. I had some discussion with dealership and wrote to their Head Office. They were willing to sell me a kit at over 100 but after lengthy discussion told them not to bother. Next morning they called me and said they had a spare wheel kit for me which I collected. I feel better now as did not fancy the prospect of having side wall damage and waiting a long time in assistance.
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Posted 05 February 2009 - 09:50 AM

I had my Fiesta Zetec over 4 weeks when I raised subject with Ford and dealership. I was not told of option by dealership, Ford said it was up to the dealership. I had some discussion with dealership and wrote to their Head Office. They were willing to sell me a kit at over 100 but after lengthy discussion told them not to bother. Next morning they called me and said they had a spare wheel kit for me which I collected. I feel better now as did not fancy the prospect of having side wall damage and waiting a long time in assistance.
John


Thanks for that. I will get onto my ford dealer asap. I havent taken delivery of mine yet so should be fine, hopefully :)

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Posted 05 February 2009 - 10:55 AM

Most salesmen might miss the fact out because they want to sell and deliver a car they got in stock this is wrong and ford have said to dealerships we must tell customers that the cat has no spare wheel in I've of two situations either when customer orders car or on the hand over of the car

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Posted 05 February 2009 - 11:17 AM

I might understand if the car was in a holding pen and you buy it as they have it. But if you order a car that has to be built first (like me) there is no excuse for not giving you the option. My sales lady is off work today so will have to try tomorrow.

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Posted 05 February 2009 - 11:38 AM

I might understand if the car was in a holding pen and you buy it as they have it. But if you order a car that has to be built first (like me) there is no excuse for not giving you the option. My sales lady is off work today so will have to try tomorrow.


Even when built from factory unless stated when ordered ford will not put a spare in unless u asked for one. Many manufactures are now going down this route it is a cost cutting exercise and salesmen also think this is a silly idea but we have no say in the matter any complaint will have to go to ford. All you can compalin about is that the salesman did not tell u or offer u the no cost option of a wheel

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Posted 05 February 2009 - 11:40 AM

Even when built from factory unless stated when ordered ford will not put a spare in unless u asked for one. Many manufactures are now going down this route it is a cost cutting exercise and salesmen also think this is a silly idea but we have no say in the matter any complaint will have to go to ford. All you can compalin about is that the salesman did not tell u or offer u the no cost option of a wheel


Thanks for the help with what to say :) Hopefully it should work out ok.

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Posted 05 February 2009 - 03:44 PM

it is a cost cutting exercise


I knew the CO2 excuse was bull lol

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