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#1 appytizer

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Posted 18 May 2011 - 07:04 PM

Hi, Iv'e just bought a 2007 1.6 tdci focus with 45k miles on the clock. It seems that the DPF fluid (eolys) was not topped-up at its 37,500mile service so I want to do it myself. I was thinking of using an after market product. Its JLM Pat fluid and it replaces eolys 176 which I think is what fords use.. Have any of you guys used this stuff and if so is it ok. :unsure:

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Posted 18 May 2011 - 07:08 PM

if it was from a dealer i'm pretty sure it was their responsibility to have this done prior to selling onto you! i'm sure someone else on here will be able to clarify! think if you have any problems with the DPF aswell after purchasing any costs can be relayed back to them or they pay to fix it!

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Posted 18 May 2011 - 07:50 PM

I bought it from car super market Fords of Winsford. Im not having a problem with the car, no lights on dash etc, as yet but the last service was done at kwik-fit, spoke to previous owner and he said he only had a "normal" service so can only assume dpf fluid was not topped-up. ( who in their right mind would go to kwik-fit)Previous 2 services done at ford main stealership. Im only doing the dpf top-up for peace of mind.

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 09:59 AM

I bought it from car super market Fords of Winsford. Im not having a problem with the car, no lights on dash etc, as yet but the last service was done at kwik-fit, spoke to previous owner and he said he only had a "normal" service so can only assume dpf fluid was not topped-up. ( who in their right mind would go to kwik-fit)Previous 2 services done at ford main stealership. Im only doing the dpf top-up for peace of mind.


I wouldnt waste your time on it. these DPF's are bad enough as they are, and if you use a lesser fluid your more likely to cause more problems than resolve! Ford should have performed the service before handing the keys to you, and therefore, if the fluid was due topup then, they had the requirement to put it in for you. If they didnt, threaten to hand the car back... That will probably persuade them that the 45 it actually costs them to do the job, is less lost than the price of your car...

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 08:15 PM

Also you need to have the cars computer reset to let it know the top up has been performed. Unfortunately looks like Ford can only do this service at moment as far as i know.

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Posted 20 May 2011 - 10:59 AM

Also you need to have the cars computer reset to let it know the top up has been performed. Unfortunately looks like Ford can only do this service at moment as far as i know.


Definately, its a pain in the ace, and even then its just as cheap to have it reset and let them top it up, its either on average 60+vat to plug it in and sort it, or can be 100 to get it filled and reset... sometimes its easier to just go to Ford, to save a few pounds...

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Posted 20 May 2011 - 07:44 PM

Well thanks for your input guys but yesterday I decided to order 2 lts of the jlm pat fluid. Well it arrived this morning at 7.20am, wow how fast is that. It took me about half an hour to jack-up car, put fluid in, lower car and then re-set ecu counter. Cost 64 including re-fill kit, ecu was re-set with ignition and fuel flap method. B)

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Posted 21 May 2011 - 10:10 AM

Well thanks for your input guys but yesterday I decided to order 2 lts of the jlm pat fluid. Well it arrived this morning at 7.20am, wow how fast is that. It took me about half an hour to jack-up car, put fluid in, lower car and then re-set ecu counter. Cost 64 including re-fill kit, ecu was re-set with ignition and fuel flap method. B)


Ignition and Fuel Cap method? can you describe that method as I have personally never heard of it before? and are you sure you reset the ECU correctly? if you didnt then im afraid your ECU will not perform correctly and will possibly cause you problems later, when it doesnt inject the right fluid into the fuel tank, and it can cause more problems to your DPF!

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Posted 21 May 2011 - 01:59 PM

It tells you how to do it in the haynes manual and there's info on FFOC site.

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 07:38 PM

It tells you how to do it in the haynes manual and there's info on FFOC site.


I have tried following the fuel filler flap procedure outlined in the Haynes manual (Ford Focus 1.6 TDCI 2005-2009, with DPF) for resetting the diesel additive counter, but the ECU comes up with "ENGINE SYSTEMS FAULT". Any idea why this happens? Also, could you provide a link to the information you mention at the FFOC site as I can't seem to find it?

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 09:13 PM

I have tried following the fuel filler flap procedure outlined in the Haynes manual (Ford Focus 1.6 TDCI 2005-2009, with DPF) for resetting the diesel additive counter, but the ECU comes up with "ENGINE SYSTEMS FAULT". Any idea why this happens? Also, could you provide a link to the information you mention at the FFOC site as I can't seem to find it?

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From memory, if you read the haynes manual it states that "MIL or PCL will illuminate to indicate that resetting has been achieved, turn ignition to 0 then to position II, lights should now not illuminate."
If you do a search on FFOC for "eolys" you will see a posting "Engine Systems Fault (Update DPF)" you will find the info for resetting here.

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Posted 10 June 2011 - 03:32 PM

i worked on a ford front line service desk and the car also needs a "regeneration" after the additive is put in. dont think thats is done by resetting the pcm values

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Posted 10 June 2011 - 03:50 PM

i worked on a ford front line service desk and the car also needs a "regeneration" after the additive is put in. dont think thats is done by resetting the pcm values


Isnt the regen they do just a 5 minutes sit down revving at 3500 - 4000 RPM?

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Posted 10 June 2011 - 04:37 PM

Isnt the regen they do just a 5 minutes sit down revving at 3500 - 4000 RPM?



similar, however the pcm needs to be set to a specific mode where it doesnt insert the fluid as the car is revved. ford ids controls the revvs/time at each rev, but the important thing is that fluid isnt inserted whilst this is done

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Posted 10 June 2011 - 08:00 PM

From memory, if you read the haynes manual it states that "MIL or PCL will illuminate to indicate that resetting has been achieved, turn ignition to 0 then to position II, lights should now not illuminate."
If you do a search on FFOC for "eolys" you will see a posting "Engine Systems Fault (Update DPF)" you will find the info for resetting here.


I tried searching for "eolys" on www.ffoc, but didn't find anything. Could you send me a link?

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