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#1 hubballi

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Posted 18 May 2011 - 07:22 PM

Since I bought this 1.6 1999 Focus 2 years ago it has cost me the earth to run. It guzzles petrol and oil. I have been told that they need topping up all the time with oil. There are no leaks or anything but my Peugeot 106 never needed a single top up between changes. My Peugeot had a small rust spot that hasn't got any bigger in 10 years (my Mum now has it) . In 2 years my Focus wheel arch has bubbled and rusted looking unsightly. The boot lock no longer works (from the key or the button on the dash). For some reason when I am driving, the petrol gauge display the next time I drive the car is always lower than when I last drove it. The mileometer sometimes re-sets itself back to zero with no warning.

All in all after the 2 years experience I can say it is a nice, comfortable car to drive and reliable to start but it is sooooooo expensive to run and badly made (rust etc) I will never buy another Ford again. I have had an Escort and Fiesta a few years ago and they both rusted badly too.

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Posted 18 May 2011 - 07:31 PM

Does sound like you got a bad one. I have owned loads of Fords and never had any oil consumption. I only had rust issues up to the mid 1980's, but nothing since then.

The most unreliable car I ever owned was a VW Golf and the one that drank most oil was an Alpha 156 Sportwagon with only 20k miles on the clock. And the most expensive to maintain was a Rover 800 Vitesse Sport Lux (1,700 for a main dealer to do the head gasket).

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 07:17 AM

That would be an Alfa Romeo 156 would it? Yes they can drink oil, though neither of mine ever did.

VW's can be ferociously unreliable. I don't know they continue to kid the public into thinking otherwise.

A Rover will always be a British Leyland underneath. They suffer from design compromise caused by cost cutting (Mk5 Escort anyone?).

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 07:57 AM

That would be an Alfa Romeo 156 would it? Yes they can drink oil, though neither of mine ever did.

VW's can be ferociously unreliable. I don't know they continue to kid the public into thinking otherwise.

A Rover will always be a British Leyland underneath. They suffer from design compromise caused by cost cutting (Mk5 Escort anyone?).

Yes I did mean an Alfa rather than Alpha. Fantastic car to drive though. Mind you the Vitesse Sport was back in the 90's. 200BHP and fully loaded with ivory leather etc it was nice. Just a shame about Rovers build quality.

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 08:30 AM

Does sound like you got a bad one. I have owned loads of Fords and never had any oil consumption.

me neither, and I've owned five, a Anglia Van, a Cortina, a Mondeo, and two Focus

I only had rust issues up to the mid 1980's, but nothing since then


Got to disagree regarding in what time frame Fords stopped rusting more than the industry average, the Anglia van was fine, the 1973 Cortina by the time I bought it had had its front wings replaced. The Mondeo [94 on a M] after around eight years of ownership, all four door skins were rusting and parting company from the base of the door frames. The Mk1 Focus [99 on a T] suffered the notorious rear top of the wheel arch rust bubble seven years in. The Mk2 Focus rust problem on early builds, rusting front wheel arches caused by road debris stripping the paint protection off [since rectified in later builds] But right up to the end of the build process the now called Mk2.5 can rust on the internal rear bulkhead due to a rubbing rear washer hose. So the moral of the story is, hold onto a Ford long enough and it will rust.

But that said after a close inspection of the new Mk3 Focus, Ford have made a solid effort to eradicate rust caused by road debris stripping the paint protection off the wings and door sills. By having composite material sills, and front inner wing protectors that sit on and in front of the wing leading edges. You could say Fords stopped rusting big style from the inside a decade or so ago, but continued to rust from the outside because of a failure to apply a little logic around the wheel arch areas.

Mind you worst rusting motor I ever had was an A35 Van 43 years ago. I bought it because it had a collapsible lay flat rear seat conversion [my very own passion wagon] :rolleyes: I remember prior to me taking it to the local scrappy, some people walking towards me on the near side pavement, would shy away from the curb edge and press their backs against shop windows, and walls. Though the van actually drove in a straight line, the body was inclined to point about 15 degrees to the nearside. :ph34r: ....happy days

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 08:48 AM

Yes I did mean an Alfa rather than Alpha. Fantastic car to drive though. Mind you the Vitesse Sport was back in the 90's. 200BHP and fully loaded with ivory leather etc it was nice. Just a shame about Rovers build quality.



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Posted 19 May 2011 - 12:36 PM

Were you ever a member of Alfa156.net?

No, I was on alfaowner.com

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 12:47 PM

Got to disagree regarding in what time frame Fords stopped rusting more than the industry average, the Anglia van was fine, the 1973 Cortina by the time I bought it had had its front wings replaced. The Mondeo [94 on a M] after around eight years of ownership, all four door skins were rusting and parting company from the base of the door frames. The Mk1 Focus [99 on a T] suffered the notorious rear top of the wheel arch rust bubble seven years in. The Mk2 Focus rust problem on early builds, rusting front wheel arches caused by road debris stripping the paint protection off [since rectified in later builds] But right up to the end of the build process the now called Mk2.5 can rust on the internal rear bulkhead due to a rubbing rear washer hose. So the moral of the story is, hold onto a Ford long enough and it will rust.


I dont disagree with you that Fords still had rust issues after the mid 80's. It was that I did not have any issues. May be I bought carefully or it may have something to do with the wax oil I used to apply generously underneath and inside the arches.

I would say however, having owned over 50 cars in my 32 years of driving, Fords are no worse than any other make, with the possible exception of some German models.

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 02:06 PM

I would say however, having owned over 50 cars in my 32 years of driving


That averages out at one circa every 7 months!......you didn't own em long enough to rust on you :D

Fords are no worse than any other make, with the possible exception of some German models.


Being serious for a moment, I have got to agree broadly with that statement. But I will say, I bought a year old Mondeo back in 1996, had it for nine years. Then a Mk1 Focus at six years old, had that nearly three years. Then I bought a five year old Volvo S40. And it was not until I came back to a Mk2 Focus nine months later, that I realised how poorly built they where in comparison. The Volvo was streets ahead in panel thickness, paint finish on the frame and overall build quality, and composite materials used where it mattered.

That said and because I don't buy new, I'm still a Fan of Fords. Why? Plenty to choose from in the second hand market. Meaning when viewing, if a model you like with the spec you want is just not as clean as you would have liked it to be. There is sure to be a reasonably priced alternative not to many miles away. As a rule they are mechanically reliable, with easily sourced reasonably priced parts available if and when needed.

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 03:45 PM

Blimey we've got some oldies on here by the sounds of Catch and Btmaldon tee hee.

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 04:25 PM

you cheeky young whipper snapper :D

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 04:57 PM

I have been told by a few people in the know (mechanics included) that the Focus does need a constant supply of oil. I suppose it also means you don't need an oil change when serviced. At nearly 7 a go for a small bottle coupled with the high petrol consumption it's very very expensive to run. When it went to the garage about 18 months ago a mechanic said underneath is very rusty and when the cross section that supports the rear wheels rots (I am not sure what it's called but more knowledgeable people here will know) that's the end of the car as it's part of the chases and can't be replaced or fixed.

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 07:06 PM

That averages out at one circa every 7 months!......you didn't own em long enough to rust on you :D

Dont tell the missus. No, most of the time ive had two cars. In the early days when cars were cheap (now I am sounding old at a grand age of 49)I changed them every 3 or 4 months. Thinking back I have changed at least 1 of the cars every year for the last 15 years. I changed my 09 Focus Estate for the current one a few weeks ago, and I changed the old Puma we had as a runaround for the SportKA just before Christmas.

Somewhere during that lot I also had 10 Motorbikes.

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 07:07 PM

Blimey we've got some oldies on here by the sounds of Catch and Btmaldon tee hee.

Careful now LOL

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 07:16 PM

I have been told by a few people in the know (mechanics included) that the Focus does need a constant supply of oil. I suppose it also means you don't need an oil change when serviced. At nearly 7 a go for a small bottle coupled with the high petrol consumption it's very very expensive to run. When it went to the garage about 18 months ago a mechanic said underneath is very rusty and when the cross section that supports the rear wheels rots (I am not sure what it's called but more knowledgeable people here will know) that's the end of the car as it's part of the chases and can't be replaced or fixed.

It does sound like you need to replace it. You should be able to sell it easy enough if you clean up the top half. If you part x it, the traders rarely look underneath.

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