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Astonm

Wheel Alignment

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Ok I'm new to Ford so if this seems a silly question I'll apologise now

Does the Mondeo require 4 or 2 wheels alignment??

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I recently had the tracking done on my 03 Mondeo and they adjusted all 4 wheels.

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Ok I'm new to Ford so if this seems a silly question I'll apologise now

Does the Mondeo require 4 or 2 wheels alignment??

I would get the 4 wheel alignment if you leave the back wheels you will never get a staright steering wheel i've made this misake before when i done my tracking i had to turn the steering wheel on a slant just to drive staright lol.

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I would get the 4 wheel alignment if you leave the back wheels you will never get a staright steering wheel i've made this misake before when i done my tracking i had to turn the steering wheel on a slant just to drive staright lol.

Can someone please tell me how to adjust the rear wheel tracking on a Mk3 mondeo as described above, as I would like to have it done to my own vehicle.

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I would get the 4 wheel alignment if you leave the back wheels you will never get a staright steering wheel i've made this misake before when i done my tracking i had to turn the steering wheel on a slant just to drive staright lol.

Can someone please tell me how to adjust the rear wheel tracking on a Mk3 mondeo as described above, as I would like to have it done to my own vehicle.

Any garage that does alignment and four wheel tracking will do it for you normally about £30 something like that. When i meant before i done it myself what i meant was in college we have the tracking and four wheel alignment equipment.

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The reason i am asking how a garage would be able to do rear wheel alingment, is that as far as i am aware there is no adjustment on rear tracking other than fitting new suspension bushes, unlike the front where the track rod ends have threads that can be adjusted onto steering rack.

No doubt someone will enlighten me.

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Hi the reason they do a 4 wheel alignment is to make sure the front wheels run inline with the rear wheels or the car could crab down the road. Hope that helps Dave

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I have to agree. When I bought my MkII, I knew little about alignment, and drove with the wheel at an angle for the two years I had it. :P

I did do alignment with my Renault Laguna, but had to do so quite often, due to the track rod ends excessively wearing.

Now, that I'm back to Mondeo, this time in a MkIV, the slanted wheel was so unnatural after picking it up from the used car dealership, I gave my tyre garage free reins.

I'm glad I did, because not only is the steering wheel straight now, but also, the ESP is much less nervous on wet roads,

mostly because I decided to get all four wheels done, just instead of two, but also in part because one of the rims was bent, and I got the aluminium repaired.

My tyre specialist uses state of the art equipment, including laser tracking, computer balancing, etc., so they'll deffo find any issues that might arise.

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How the Hell do they adjust the toe-in on the rear of a Mk3 Mondeo Estate?

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On the mk3 mondeo hatch they have 2 sets of arms that go from the rear sub frame to the hub.The Rearest of them is connected via bolt with fixed oval washer,which sits in a hole where the sub frame has 2 slots sticking out. So when you slacken off the rear nut in centre of the sub frame you then turn the bolt with oval washer.This will then either push the back of the rear wheel out or pull it in depnding on which way the tracking has to be moved.

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Is it the same for the estate.. As I think some people are getting ripped off by some of the guys that do the wheel alignment.
£60 + is the going rate here in the South East.

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It is a little different set up as the rear is different. but it still has the same principle setup with arm going to subframe with oval washer bolt ect. How ever the bolts can rust out or seize in the arms worse case. I normally pack mine with grease to stop the bolts seizing in the arms. I payed 42 + vat for my 4 wheel alignment hatch that is trade i use pro tyre

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I may be old and dim, but I can not find this Eccentric washer/bolt on my 2002 estate. Have you a picture of it? or a diagram as I recon I have been stuffed from behind by quickfits. My Tracking is no better than it was before and the fronts are facing Toe Out. Bearing in mind that I have replaced all 4 shox & springs, front lower arms and drop links, rear bushes trailing arm bushes and everything else that moves. Its like a new car underneath now.

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Like the bolt and washer on bottom leftpost-32731-0-09570000-1439289296_thumb.j

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mmmm... my Estate has not got this bolt. It's just a high tensile blue bolt(12.9). Plus this wont affect tracking , but will adjust the camber angle as it drags the spring arm into or further away from the centre of the vehicle.
Thanks for the info.. Now I know that I have been charged for a job of rear tracking that could not have been done..

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Like the bolt and washer on bottom leftattachicon.gifmondeo.JPG

thats the toe adjusting cam bolt for sure , doesnt adjust camber , re look at your suspension set up and you will see what will happen when you adjust that bolt.

checking tolerence is toe in 2.0mm +/-2.5mm, adjusting tolerence is toe in 2mm +/-1.0mm

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well im not going to get into a row about it.. but if you studied Engineering and used an Eccentric Bolt to move the point of rotation. The lateral movement will be left to right and as it moves the point too and from the central point. i.e. as the bolt is revolved round, it turns circular motion into lateral movement. if that lateral movement is applied to a force as in the bottom arm, it will be like pushing the arm away from the centre of the vehicle or pulling it towards the centre of the car.
The effect this has on the wheel is to push the bottom of the wheel too and from the center point.. this is the same as giving you a negative or positive camber as the bolt is rotated...
toe in or out is applied by pulling the wheel on a X-Y axes like it is on the front wheels. (you don't adjust the Toe in or out but changing the point where the bottom arm pivots from.. Now think about it...

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ive done a few rear tracking on both estate and hatch mk3 mondeos either as subframe bush replacement on hatch and just tracking on estates, up to you to decide how the tracking is acheived then, but thats the bolts, got suspension layout from ford infront of me . still you obviously now better than us.

good luck.

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So let me get this straight in my head. If you make the spring lower arm longer or shorter it will adjust the tracking? yes?
So even though my estate does not have the eccentric bolts in my lower arms, they can still adjust my tracking.
If I take quickfit to court, can I call you as my expert witness.. Because on this site you know the most out of everyone on here.
Thanks geezer. much obliged with all the info.

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That correct, by adjusting the length of the lower arm the suspension is pivoting on the trailing arm front bush, so its pushing the suspension out at the rear as such, camber isnt adjustable , I see where your coming from though, the focus rear suspension is very simular set up, as concentric bolts. Some members on here fit adjustable camber arms for extra camber,

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Where that bolt fits to the subframe, there should be 2 lumps or bits of metal that concentric part of bolt head fits in to, check your subframe for these.

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Like I wrote in an earlier post. My estate does not have this set up. Its just std M12 (12.9) Blue high tensile bolts with locking nuts.
So no adjustment is possible. No eccentric bolts fitted, so no adjustment. This is why I think i was ripped off.
I wanted to post a picture, but I don't know how on here.

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This is what the bolt head should look like anyway, poor photo but you get the idea, this photo is of mk 3 mondeo estate, also from the nut side there should be a concentric washer that slots on to bolt , and you will see the slot quite visible at end through the lock nut, yours sounds like wrong bolts fitted.

as you say , no way tracking has been done.

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