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#1 zev

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Posted 01 June 2011 - 04:53 PM

Hi all, need some advice. I had a small drip of fluid in the drivers footwell. I took it to the garage and they said its the master cylinder that needs replacing. All seems ok now. But I've noticed my focus is using a lot of fuel. Not accurate I know but I used the fuel gauge to give me an idea of my fuel consumption. I put 18 litres in and it did 120 miles around town, this is very poor. I did it again to make sure I had done it right and it was roughly 125 miles on 18 litres. Any ideas why this may happening. it wasn't doing too good before the repair but its gone worse.
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Posted 01 June 2011 - 05:31 PM

Hi all, need some advice. I had a small drip of fluid in the drivers footwell. I took it to the garage and they said its the master cylinder that needs replacing. All seems ok now. But I've noticed my focus is using a lot of fuel. Not accurate I know but I used the fuel gauge to give me an idea of my fuel consumption. I put 18 litres in and it did 120 miles around town, this is very poor. I did it again to make sure I had done it right and it was roughly 125 miles on 18 litres. Any ideas why this may happening. it wasn't doing too good before the repair but its gone worse.
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sounds like the clutch master cylinder, fairly common issues - sorted this on my own car. will cost you about 70 to sort yourself using new parts.

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Posted 01 June 2011 - 05:39 PM

Sorry I should of said they've replaced the master cylinder. That's ok now. But I'm puzzled as to why I'm using so much fuel now. I thought the fuel loss maybe connected to the cylinder. But obviously not. Any ideas as to why my fuel consumption maybe so high.
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Posted 01 June 2011 - 07:21 PM

What were you normally getting around town, prior to the 122.5 miles average out of 18 litres you not happy with now?

I wish I was getting 30.93 mpg around town, of course what you may class as town, possibly the environs of Manchester, I would class as urban.

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Posted 01 June 2011 - 08:41 PM

I was getting 140 + miles on 20 litres. It can be bit difficult working it out price per litre with prices up and down so I tend to work with the fuel gauge. But it has definitely dropped. I drive to and from work mon - fri which is only 8 miles a day. Use it abit more at weekends. So probably don't drive much than 60 miles a week on average. I rarely do any motorway driving So I can see easily how much I'm using. My car runs smooth enough doesn't appear to be any problems. So not really sure what it could be.
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Posted 01 June 2011 - 09:13 PM

When was the last time the car was serviced. It cild be that the fuel consumption has been steadily increasing and since youve had one problem tgen you are led to look for other faults with the car

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Posted 01 June 2011 - 09:24 PM

You really can't get an accurate figure based on the cars fuel gauge. The only way is brim-to-brim. Fill it up until the pump cuts off, zero the trip odometer then take readings from the pump and trip meter next time you fill to the brim.

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Posted 02 June 2011 - 07:50 AM

I was getting 140 + miles on 20 litres. It can be bit difficult working it out price per litre with prices up and down so I tend to work with the fuel gauge. But it has definitely dropped. I drive to and from work mon - fri which is only 8 miles a day. Use it abit more at weekends. So probably don't drive much than 60 miles a week on average. I rarely do any motorway driving So I can see easily how much I'm using. My car runs smooth enough doesn't appear to be any problems. So not really sure what it could be.
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There is nothing difficult in regard to working out fuel consumption, as mjt pointed out "brim" the tank. Then do your weekly mileage, then again brim the tank. Only figures you need are the total miles covered between brims, and amount of fuel put in at the second brim. OK fuel is recorded in Liters, so divide by 4.546 to convert to gallons, then divide your mileage by the gallons.

example:
140 miles using 20 liters:

20 liters / 4.546 = 4.399 gallons.....140 miles / 4.399 gallons = 31.825 mpg

So your not happy with 30.93 mpg miles [120 miles out of 18 liters], but your OK with 31.83 mpg out of 20 liters :rolleyes: are you blonde Zev :P

It's no good coming on a forum and saying I'm getting 140+ and I'm not happy .......maths is an exact science, not an estimate of a unknown figure represented by the symbol +

Zev, trust me you have a 1.6 petrol Focus and if it is indeed returning circa 31.5 mpg around town, you don't have a problem........you should be very happy

Do the brim test and get a definitive answer to you actual consumption, if your still in doubt.

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Posted 02 June 2011 - 10:00 AM

Ok fair enough catch I will do the math and the brim test. I came on her for advice not rudeness.
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Posted 02 June 2011 - 10:11 AM

Ok fair enough catch I will do the math and the brim test. I came on her for advice not rudeness.
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Well I gave you plenty of advice, and my blonde comment did have the tongue in cheek smiley attached.

I doubt you really want me to paint a clearer picture for you, so lets just leave it at that shall we? Oh and I'll ignore all your future posts for advice from now on in...

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Posted 02 June 2011 - 11:41 AM

There you go again can't help yourself. Thanks for the advice. But yes maybe better to ignore my posts not that I post many.

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Posted 02 June 2011 - 01:49 PM

There you go again can't help yourself.


Jeez, I made a "bloke joke" which was obvious because it was accompanied by a "tongue in check" smiley.You accuse me of being rude, I then go on to explain it as just a joke, but no your still not happy and insist I'm still at it.

The Facts:

You open a thread entitled Master Cylinder, point being it was leaking fluid, but has since been repaired. But you apparently suspect it may be connected to your "perceived" low fuel consumption, that has only come to light since the Master Cylinder was repaired.

So it's really a thread on Poor Fuel Consumption!

Anyway you go on to support your conclusion your suffering poor fuel consumption by offering up two pieces of data 120/125 miles out of 18 liters of fuel. Followed by the observation you were getting 140+ out of 20 liters of fuel, before the Master Cylinder leak was fixed.

Now if I had said,

Things may have changed somewhat since I was at school, but I reckon the education system in the UK is still teaching basic divisional mathmatics in junior school. So if your unable to see you have not got a problem with poor consumption, your either incredibly stupid, or incredibly lazy and expect others to do the maths for you, which is it?...........Now that would have been rude.

But no I didn't say that, instead I just assumed you were struggling with the basic maths. So I took the time out to walk you through the process....................and thats the thanks I get, being told I'm rude.....I don't know why I bother sometimes :ph34r:

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Posted 02 June 2011 - 03:09 PM

Jeez catch hahaha. considering you have a low opinion of me and that you were going to ignore my posts you have certainly sent me a long reply. I'm actually a strawberry blonde so not far of the mark. It wasn't the "bloke joke" I was referring to as rude anyway. It was the your stupid tone in your reply. I think your taking this too far anyway. Why did reply again why not just ignore me. I did thank you for your advice. So there was no need to reply with more insults. You don't know me nor I you so therefore neither of us can give a real opinion of the other. So catch, now what. Gonna send me another long reply ;-)

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Posted 02 June 2011 - 03:17 PM

Gonna send me another long reply ;-)


No of course not, but to ignore your reply would indeed be rude of me.

Lets just say I don't normally suffer fools gladly, but I must admit I'm warming to you....strawberry blonde you say :P

edit: I said I'd ignore your posts seeking advice.....you see Zev what's worth knowing is always in the detail....maybe that's where you going wrong ...ignoring it.....what you'd call the long stuff that is!

Go on I'll let you have the last laugh, and promise not to reply :D

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Posted 02 June 2011 - 03:26 PM

Lol my god catch do you sit glued to your computer that was a quick reply. If you had ever had the pleasure of meeting me you would certainly would not be rude. I've never met a man yet who couldn't help but flirt with me no matter their age. So please do not ignore my posts because I would certainly miss your flirty insults hahaha ;-)

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