Zetecd Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 I have recently been looking into upgrading the performance of my 2010 zetec s. I am un shure on witch induction kit to buy, the j1 or the pipercross one from pumaspeed. The j1 is £212 and the pipercross is £119. Now j1 says 5 bhp but on pumaspeed they say 6bhp but they say the standard zs is 135 bhp so I am unsure on how reliable that is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRC89 Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 I have recently been looking into upgrading the performance of my 2010 zetec s. I am un shure on witch induction kit to buy, the j1 or the pipercross one from pumaspeed. The j1 is £212 and the pipercross is £119. Now j1 says 5 bhp but on pumaspeed they say 6bhp but they say the standard zs is 135 bhp so I am unsure on how reliable that is. Out of the two, I'd suggest the J1, it's just built to perform better. It doesn't have a restrictive box around it, pulls more air in, looks better and looks like it's made of better quality materials. However, being more expensive, you get what you pay for in this case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D4nz0 Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 TThat "restrictive box" around induction kits is to stop "heat soak". An open cone filter is susceptible to intaking engine heat into the air intake meaning you won't gain ANY power at all.... you will lose power. The only real positive difference you're gonna feel is on a cold morning when its taking in cold air like its meant to. Or when you hear the difference it makes to your engine sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetecd Posted July 23, 2011 Author Share Posted July 23, 2011 That is very you do get what you pay for I am asking this question but I no myself what I want lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetecd Posted July 23, 2011 Author Share Posted July 23, 2011 Thanks for the help guys. In regards to the heat soak the j1 is protected buy a heat sheald to stop that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRC89 Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 TThat "restrictive box" around induction kits is to stop "heat soak". An open cone filter is susceptible to intaking engine heat into the air intake meaning you won't gain ANY power at all.... you will lose power. The only real positive difference you're gonna feel is on a cold morning when its taking in cold air like its meant to. Or when you hear the difference it makes to your engine sound. Yes, I see your point however I was just referring to the Pipercross and J1, the J1 has a heat shield which eliminates the problem of warm air from engine bay, while providing extra breathing space for it to do it's work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grin factor Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 I put a pipercross filter in place of the paper one, and to be honest you cant feel any difference. I wasn't expecting it, but the fuel economy has gone up by 2 mpg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amarokuk Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 I put a pipercross filter in place of the paper one, and to be honest you cant feel any difference. I wasn't expecting it, but the fuel economy has gone up by 2 mpg. I added a piper cross to my 1.4 titanium and there is a very subtle difference most noticeable above 50mph just seems more relaxed when accelerating. I also get a very consistent 2-3mpgwhich is not to be sniffed at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tato Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 I put a pipercross filter in place of the paper one, and to be honest you cant feel any difference. I wasn't expecting it, but the fuel economy has gone up by 2 mpg. That's not nice, considering that you don't feel any difference... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toothy Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Go for the Pipercross kit. Had one on my Zetec S for over a year now. It doesn't have much of a restrictive box around it as MRC89 would suggest, as one side is completely open. Sounds great too. In fact I did a comparison, have a listen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetecd Posted July 23, 2011 Author Share Posted July 23, 2011 Thanks for the help toothy, do you no what your performance gains were? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toothy Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 I haven't had it on a dyno or anything to measure the performance. But I think there is a noticeable difference, but mostly at higher revs. The throttle seems a tad more responsive, and it feels like the engine revs easier at higher RPMs. When driving the roar of the induction doesn't really kick in till towards 3000rpm by the way, which I quite like. It's also not a problem on motorways and at higher speed. You get a bit of a roar when you put you foot down to overtake something, but there's not a constant drone. Hope that helps :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetecd Posted July 24, 2011 Author Share Posted July 24, 2011 Yea it dose thanks for the help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rugbyleague Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Toothy that sounds sweet!! pretty big diffence between them deffo worth it if it's just for sounds alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tato Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Go for the Pipercross kit. Had one on my Zetec S for over a year now. It doesn't have much of a restrictive box around it as MRC89 would suggest, as one side is completely open. Sounds great too. In fact I did a comparison, have a listen Nice sound... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteFoFi2011 Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 did anyone install a pipercross kit in an Fiesta diesel (TDCI) ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TcH Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Go for the Pipercross kit. Had one on my Zetec S for over a year now. It doesn't have much of a restrictive box around it as MRC89 would suggest, as one side is completely open. Sounds great too. In fact I did a comparison, have a listen I saw your video about a month ago, if i was to get a petrol i'd be buying the Pipercross just due to the sheer roar that your's makes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteFoFi2011 Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 a shortly information. the Pipercross Induction Kit fits in the 1.6L 95PS TDCI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisiekT Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Just fitted J1 today - not nearly as good gains as promised in the description (though the ECU may need some time to adjust, I dyno'd it just before and after putting J1), but the sound is really amazing Check out the audio: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsrelfy Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Hi Did fitting either of these add anything to your insurance premium? Adrian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toothy Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Depends on your insurance mate. Just give them a call and ask if your premium would change IF you changed the airfilter to a non-standard one. Think mine went up about £10 with Admiral Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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